What if Austria United with Germany in 1919? - Project Stresa Episode 1

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  • @marcmonnerat4850
    @marcmonnerat4850 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    Italy was the guarantor of Austria's independence. During the 1934 coup d'état, Italy intervened and opposed annexation. Four years later, the balance of power was in Germany's favor.

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Thanks for your comment
      That entire dynamic is why I have Italy supporting Austrian partisans. Their status as buffer state between themselves and Germany was incredibly vital
      Hope you have a good day

  • @Burningpaladin
    @Burningpaladin ปีที่แล้ว +56

    This is an interesting scenario; I don't think most alternate history channels would cover this but it's still pretty entertaining

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Thanks a lot! I tried doing something people hadn’t done before so I’m glad it paid off!

    • @WastelandPlaystation
      @WastelandPlaystation ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LoreDadwhat is the app your using called?

    • @jspujmi9396
      @jspujmi9396 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@WastelandPlaystationhe is using gimp or pain and the map is from internet. Google QBAM

  • @deadchannel1880
    @deadchannel1880 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Whilst I don't think Austro-German Unification would have prevented the fall of the Weimar Republic, I still think this is a really cool and fun idea and im excited to see how the scenario progresses

    • @karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
      @karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well the fall of the Weimar Republic was a very varied thing but it’s far from predestined. Much of it was a national feeling of humiliation that would definitely be affected by Germany being finally “united”, which would make them see the entente in a much better light.

    • @ddggfcff
      @ddggfcff 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Germans lacked victories and pride post ww1. Unifying with Austria would be a major success and could greatly curb radicalism

  • @bidenator9760
    @bidenator9760 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    This is very well conceived. I could see Wilson supporting Austrian integration into Germany, since he was typically more "lenient" to the Germans during the Versailles negotiations. He would probably support it on the condition of a referendum or something like that.

  • @rimfire8217
    @rimfire8217 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Cool scenario,
    The Microphone is kinda inconsistent but overall really good.

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Thanks! I have been trying to improve my audio as I have continued to refine my production process. Please let me know if it's better by this week's episode!

  • @farkasishtar5565
    @farkasishtar5565 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This is one of the most unrated history channals
    Sorry for my english, I want to say
    Que buen vídeo, es excelente como manejas tus conocimientos en historia, a seguir adelante y un afectuoso saludo desde Uruguay

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thank you! Your English was great!
      From google translate:
      Gracias por tus amables palabras. ¡Espero que tengas un buen día!

  • @thunderluke6432
    @thunderluke6432 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Vielen Dank für solches Video!

  • @Hamstorian
    @Hamstorian ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm in Love with this Video, please Continue this!

  • @lombardian_mapping
    @lombardian_mapping 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love your video from italy❤🇮🇹

  • @pilum3705
    @pilum3705 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    If I remember correctly Vorarlberg preferred to join Germany and tried joining Switzerland cause it was impossible to join Germany.

  • @ERRORcode-dk6mi
    @ERRORcode-dk6mi ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video I don`t think I`ve seen a full alt history like this.

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it, and the direction of a multi part series!

  • @domschra
    @domschra ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video, only issue i have is towards the end you moved very close to the mic, sounded a bit weird - otherwise great video

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the feedback! It may be because I recorded that last part later on with a better setup. I fix my audio setup later on so I hope you stay tuned!

  • @chrisgaming9567
    @chrisgaming9567 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I think this timeline is seriously underestimating the popularity and importance of the German communist revolutionary movement in the 1920s

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thanks for the comment.
      My next series is going to be a timeline which focuses on the German Communist movement. So Stay tuned!

    • @Chosen_Ash
      @Chosen_Ash ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah i sometimes forget how many retarded germans there are even back then

    • @snapdragonzoroark
      @snapdragonzoroark 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Far left revolutions never succeed in developed industrialized nations

  • @ElMota-mj1yn
    @ElMota-mj1yn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Eu acho que é interessante um video de: se a unificação da grande Alemanha tivesse acontecido?. Ao invés da pequena Alemanha. O DGP Mundo, tem um vídeo que fala sobre oq é essas duas formas de unificação, É no video que fala sobre a unificação alemã, italiana e sobre a guerra franco-prussiana.

  • @MattressMatthew
    @MattressMatthew ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What are you using to make this cool video i was looking into doing some my self
    👍

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I use Photoshop with the QBam base map and references linked in the description to make the individual layers for the nations, after effects for the animations and premiere for the editing and graphics. It is quite a lot of money up front so I would look into alternative software, but that’s how I’ve been doing it!

    • @MattressMatthew
      @MattressMatthew ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! so much@@LoreDad

    • @MattressMatthew
      @MattressMatthew ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LoreDad Thank you

  • @vihanuyyuru6
    @vihanuyyuru6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks!

  • @anon-san3975
    @anon-san3975 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I enjoyed this scenario abd your editing, its a very good video, but i still want to ask one question. What about Spartacist? The communist forces in Germany was very strong already, and with foreighn suport to separatist and further instability, the chances, that Spartacist already had, would increase even more. I understand that this even more problematic for the democratic scenario, but wouldnt it bring more nuance to scenario? Also, would me an intresting scenarion in itself, with implications of cooperation with the soviets and therefore even more consolidation of reactionary forces in Europe. But, anyway, keep up the good work and good luck to you.

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi there, thanks for your comment
      I had figured that with an Austrian inclusion the Spartacist movement would not have gained any more significant traction. While they were important for interwar Germany, I figured it wouldn’t be worth mentioning them as it would have been a plot point soon abandoned.
      I have another timeline that involves the spartacists specifically so I hope you stay tuned for that!

    • @anon-san3975
      @anon-san3975 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LoreDad Its just seems more logical, that communist would be a main enemy of separatists-hitlerites, and they would weaken themself and the freikorps, so goverment can retake control without using freikorps and collobareiting with proto-fascist.
      And yes im definetly intrested in that, spartacists rebellion is such a big point of diversion for potentially all of the world, if they can support industrialization of russia. Even more with your style, i would love to see what you prepared.

  • @730-jmsony9
    @730-jmsony9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Germany should keep Danzig and Memel in the Treaty of Versailles

  • @AnulaibazIV
    @AnulaibazIV 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    German-Austria also claimed South-Tyrol.

  • @andreacheri3495
    @andreacheri3495 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What do you use for the map???

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I use photoshop for the assets with qbam as a base map (references in the description). After effects for the animations and premiere for the editing!

  • @wyrdwulf999
    @wyrdwulf999 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    7:38 A partition of the western Prussian territories like that doesn't make sense. OTL Northrhine-Westfalia was a product of the Allied occupation after WWII. I don't see such a federal entity under different circumstances. There are no cultural ties between the Northern Rhineland and Westfalia. The Rhineland should be united and Westfalia it's own entity or united with one of it's northern neighbours.

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for the feedback!

  • @RichardHill-km2vn
    @RichardHill-km2vn ปีที่แล้ว

    Good 👍👍👍👍👍

  • @azathothog
    @azathothog ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what tool do you use?

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I replied to your other comment, cheers!

    • @azathothog
      @azathothog ปีที่แล้ว

      thx@@LoreDad

  • @jannis-fz8wv
    @jannis-fz8wv 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know it's late but after my knowledge Switzerland strictly refused to Annex Vorarlberg because the Region was too poor and would weaken Swiss economy

  • @themakebelieverproductions6342
    @themakebelieverproductions6342 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So... Franco-Italian Axis, vs British-German Alliance? Heyo, I am onboard with this!

  • @randombread7535
    @randombread7535 ปีที่แล้ว

    do you think a Austria would still gain Hungarian lands after the first world war in this timeline because I know they took a little piece of hungry

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes I have the land Austria took from Hungary subtly changing over. Frankly, I forgot Hungary owned the burgenland. They try to reclaim it later on so I hope you stay tuned to see!

    • @randombread7535
      @randombread7535 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LoreDad another quick question what happens with the Saarland in this world?

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its withdrawn and nothing comes of it. I figured that it would have not changed in its outcome in this timeline. Thanks for the comment!@@randombread7535

  • @PurpleBroadcast
    @PurpleBroadcast ปีที่แล้ว

    I like this video

  • @ImNotReal12345
    @ImNotReal12345 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Id say its kind of weird for Austria to succeed just after joining Germany? But still, good video overall!

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Thank you for the feedback! My logic was that while the original Republic of German Austria would have been pro Anschluss, the more conservative Catholics would be afraid of Prussian political dominance. That, and Italy would have been agitating them as well.

    • @Schweizer_Politik
      @Schweizer_Politik ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@LoreDadbut why would they be more afraid of prussian agression after autocratic prussian monarchy was replaced with a democracy and a weakrn prussia

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its more that the Prussian state was so much larger than the rest of the states within Weimar Germany, and with that political power comes envy, and the Rhinish without representation. Austrian catholic nationalists follow suit@@Schweizer_Politik

  • @oooshafiqooo
    @oooshafiqooo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Germany would have a 3 party fight instead of CDU vs SPD
    which are CDU vs SPD vs DNVP (the party supported by Prussian aristocrats)

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for your comment. I think you’re absolutely right. I will attempt to give more insight into germanys political situation in the next episodes. Hope you have a good day!

    • @oooshafiqooo
      @oooshafiqooo ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LoreDad sure, tq

    • @karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
      @karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don’t you mean the Zentrum ? The CDU was formed after WW2

    • @oooshafiqooo
      @oooshafiqooo ปีที่แล้ว

      @@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 oh yea, mb. I think i write this just kicking the Zentrum out of mind

  • @geo.m1639
    @geo.m1639 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pls fix mic

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  ปีที่แล้ว

      Don’t worry, I fixed it by stresa 4 / 5. Hope you stay tuned

    • @geo.m1639
      @geo.m1639 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LoreDad Yes, the series is very good so far

  • @ImperialZorn686
    @ImperialZorn686 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    explore if the swiss annex the landlocked liechtenstein please

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I will probably do that in a post-discussion, but I had them annexing Lichtenstein off screen

  • @franciscojavierdelatorreba3554
    @franciscojavierdelatorreba3554 ปีที่แล้ว

    I swear i read it as 1991

  • @Christian_Sannino
    @Christian_Sannino ปีที่แล้ว

    Italy was the guardian of Austria

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, which is why they take the ascension so hard and fund secessionist Austrians. I hope you stay tuned to see what happens next!

  • @ImperialZorn686
    @ImperialZorn686 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    saarland should have remained a protectorate, too soon for the french to let it go

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s good feedback. I figured it would have been conceded after French involvement in Rhenish separatism was proven

  • @ImperialZorn686
    @ImperialZorn686 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know you wanted to remove hitler from the picture, but it would have made more sense to have him serve his original five year prison sentence in full

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was worried that hitlers presence after the prison would have only ensured his rise, even if it was delayed, so I had him imprisoned for life instead thanks to the fact that he tried Litterally revolting for a revolution while the country was at risk of being partitioned. Far more treasonous then his beer hall putsch of our timeline
      Thanks again for all of your comments! Good feedback and insight.

    • @ImperialZorn686
      @ImperialZorn686 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LoreDadi understand
      You're welcome :)

  • @ImperialZorn686
    @ImperialZorn686 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    prussia should become limited to east prussia

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for your comment, I will respond to each now
      I decided to not go with further german concessions for the sake of preserving democracy in Weimar Germany. Losing more land would have only caused more far right presence.