I played (meaning I got schooled by) a 720 a few weeks ago in a few races to 9, and he was using the original Hsunami and it was GLORIOUS. I went looking at my local shop…couldn’t find a Hsu so I tried and bought the Fuze kielwood and I’ll just say, if you’re thinking about going with kielwood, DO IT. The hype is real.
Just got one of the shafts I ordered and let me say they are nice. I came from playing with wx900 as my main shaft. This definitely is a lot stiffer and still great feedback. Not as low deflection but I love non whippy feeling especially at a smaller diameter 12mm. I couldn’t get over the weird flex wx900 had. Takes no time to adjust. Yes this is low deflection, no it’s not the lowest. Yes it has great feedback, stiff but not muted like predator shafts but a lot more feedback. Kinda reminds me of 314-3 but tonkier and stiffer. It is a happy medium between laminated ld shaft and carbon shaft. Way better than my other kielwood shaft from a major brand. It’s about 15% stiffer to me. Definitely like a medium/hard tip for that addicting tonky snappy hit. Took no time to adjust hit speed. I wouldn’t say these are lighter I opted for 30” weight feels same. Couldn’t find my scale to accurately weigh. But honestly blindfolded I couldn’t tell the difference. Taper is feels like a pro hybrid. If you familiar with mezz tapers it reminds me a bit of that it’s a nice comfy gradual taper and I absolutely love it! Super comfy open and closed. Only small gripe is the finish I wish was a little more satin feeling as I have sweaty hands so after awhile playing have to put a glove on. Other than that I’m very impressed. Quality 5/5 Feedback 4.5/5 Deflection 4/5 Richard Hsu plans on taking orders again June 1st. Last I heard orders are backed up till September. He communicates super fast and answered all my questions about measuring the joint, taper and gave recommendations as well was very informative. Please be patient he is a one man army doing his best. He definitely prides himself with quality over quantity and is also maintaining a cue business.
Thanks for the GREAT video! I just reached out to Richard Hsu via his website and inquired about the ability to order the Hsunami 2.0 DR Shaft. Hopefully I will hear back shortly.
Great review! Short, concise and got a lot of info in a short form video. I need to learn to do this in my reviews. You really stepped your game and I have to get my butt in gear if I am going to catch up. I have 1 coming in in afew weeks hopefully. Keep it up!
@@TheBilliardCorner thank you for the kind words. It’s good that we can push each other to improve what we do. The next 2 videos won’t be reviews but then I will have a bunch back to back. Hopefully the next one will be out by the end of the week.
The yellowish part is the paper micarta vault plate, a white “sight” ring is installed on the plate so it would be easier to see the end of the shaft especially with a darker colored tip. The sight ring is installed on the plate, it’s not just a white pad below the tip
BTW…is that a Diamond Pro-Am table and is it a 7’ or 8’….made the mistake of selling my Gold Crown and now looking for a new table….so wondering how it plays and compares to Brunswick Gold Crown or Medalist
My table is the Diamond Pro-Am 7 ft. The Brunswick Gold Crown plays old school and very true. The Diamond has rails that are quite bouncy so you have to get use to them when banking. Easy for me to adjust as I'm still young. I'm enjoying the Diamond a lot and would recommend it.
Same post as on your other kielwood. This sounds even harder and less feel It Sounds super hard in comparison with my predator Z2… but it’s at the end of its life . Searching a new thin shaft. Looks it is not as natural as the Z2. But better then carbon What I tested, no feel at all.
Quite the opposite, a lot of feel. I’ve tested all the Predator shafts. Z2 is very thin and whippy. Since Z2 is pie cut and hollowed front end, it feels not very solid.
Great video on the new piece, it’s impressive. However, with many other cuemakers now on the kielwood bandwagon, is Richard Hsu the original inventor of kielwood shafts?
Depends what you want. White vault plate + micarta as seen in this video is lower deflection. A short micarta ferrule increases deflection a bit but offers a better hit and feel. I personally go for better hit and feel but many prefer the lower deflection.
Great video, what are tip are you are using and what are the diameter of the tip? Also, after having the cue for a while do you still recommend this cue and the tip?
I owned all revo, cuetec, and jacoby black cf shafts I sold all but the jacoby black. But the jacoby black had some considerable deflection compared to the two.Long story short I switched back to my mezz wx900 with conical taper something about solid maple construction you can’t beat compared to cf. cuetec sat in the middle of revo and the jacoby black. Is it the lowest deflection? No does that matter? No after going down the rabbit hole I found shaft feeling was more important than deflection as I could better guess spin and smaller diameter shaft I also improved my stroke. The added benefits of torrifying a shaft is your making it lighter. Which equal less deflection because less mass. But your also hardening the wood and the wood is less subject to humidity and temp. Plus is just looks dang cool!!!
What does removing liquids and sugars from wood shafts have to do with physics? If you hit a cue ball with left english the cue ball is going to push right no matter how much fluids or sugars are in the wood.
Incorrect. Removing moisture and sugars from the shaft decreases the weight of the entire shaft. Decreasing front end mass decreases deflection. All the big cue manufactures been doing this by other methods such hollowing out the front end and replacing with foam, shorting the ferrule and more.
Absolutely beautiful shaft. I have the original Hsunami and it is amazing. I can only imagine how good the 2.0 is. I'm definitely going to have to pick one up. Does anyone know what butt is being used in this video? The combination of the butt in the video and the Hsunami 2.0 look spectacular together.
Nice sounding shaft and nice video. I love torrefied maple shafts. FYI "torrefication" is not a word. The shafts undergo a "torrefaction" process. I figured you would want to know the correct term for the future. Keep up the good work!
Just cue wax if light cleaning. If need heavier clean, watch my how to clean a cue shaft video: th-cam.com/video/kr7PWJJGtTo/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=TheBilliardCorner
Is the maintenance (like cleaning or getting dents out) the same as normal maple shafts? What is your main player cue now? I assume you are using this shaft.
I recommend looking for an Ebony, Snakewood or any darker colored wood cue. That would match really well. Since yours is Uni-lock maybe look into Predator or Lucasi cues.
Mike’s shaft has a crispy, slightly sharp, tonky hit. The Hsunami 2.0 has a deep, rich, crispy hit. Really hard to describe and understand without hitting the shafts in person. Best to watch both videos and compare the sound tests. You will be able to hear the difference. Both great shafts just depends on your preference.
@@TheBilliardCorner Thanks..watching both videos and listening to the sound test....I can definitely tell the Hsunami has a deeper, heavier sounding hit...almost like thumping...the Lambros has a lighter sound and most what I am used to, since I play with a cue made by him....Just wondering cause I ordered his Ultra LD shaft before this video came out...Initially when I watched your review on the original Hsunami and Lambros Ultra LD shafts, it looked like the Lambros shaft did a little better in the deflection tests. But it seems like the 2.0 is better on Deflection than the original....I'm still waiting for my shaft and hope to have it by the end of this month
@@Larryrandom2549 I honestly have no idea when I will be taking cue orders again. I’m booked for the next several years at the moment and most likely I won’t be taking on any new orders until most of my current orders are filled. Thank you!
Stupid bullshit. There is no such thing as kielwood. These shafts are simply roasted maple. I build guitars with roasted maple necks all the time. Not a big deal and definitely not worth 350 bucks, because it just doesn’t really cost much to bake the wood other than a special oven.
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I played (meaning I got schooled by) a 720 a few weeks ago in a few races to 9, and he was using the original Hsunami and it was GLORIOUS. I went looking at my local shop…couldn’t find a Hsu so I tried and bought the Fuze kielwood and I’ll just say, if you’re thinking about going with kielwood, DO IT. The hype is real.
I have it as well and love it.
I’m looking at the Hsunami 2.0 either in 12.75, 12.8 or 12.9 or a 12.9 Revo
@@USMCKoontz 12.0 or bust, you have loss of gain with 12.75-13mm
@@ilikebacon.6483 I’m more accurate with 12.75 (like the 314 shaft for example) and 12.9 Carbons.
@@USMCKoontz hsunami 2.0 is the way to go
Just got one of the shafts I ordered and let me say they are nice. I came from playing with wx900 as my main shaft. This definitely is a lot stiffer and still great feedback. Not as low deflection but I love non whippy feeling especially at a smaller diameter 12mm. I couldn’t get over the weird flex wx900 had. Takes no time to adjust. Yes this is low deflection, no it’s not the lowest. Yes it has great feedback, stiff but not muted like predator shafts but a lot more feedback. Kinda reminds me of 314-3 but tonkier and stiffer. It is a happy medium between laminated ld shaft and carbon shaft. Way better than my other kielwood shaft from a major brand. It’s about 15% stiffer to me. Definitely like a medium/hard tip for that addicting tonky snappy hit. Took no time to adjust hit speed. I wouldn’t say these are lighter I opted for 30” weight feels same. Couldn’t find my scale to accurately weigh. But honestly blindfolded I couldn’t tell the difference. Taper is feels like a pro hybrid. If you familiar with mezz tapers it reminds me a bit of that it’s a nice comfy gradual taper and I absolutely love it! Super comfy open and closed. Only small gripe is the finish I wish was a little more satin feeling as I have sweaty hands so after awhile playing have to put a glove on. Other than that I’m very impressed.
Quality 5/5
Feedback 4.5/5
Deflection 4/5
Richard Hsu plans on taking orders again June 1st. Last I heard orders are backed up till September. He communicates super fast and answered all my questions about measuring the joint, taper and gave recommendations as well was very informative. Please be patient he is a one man army doing his best. He definitely prides himself with quality over quantity and is also maintaining a cue business.
How slick are these?
@@nyquil07na38 they are very slick with a glove but too glossy other wise without one in my opinion. Maybe after a few sessions this would be perfect!
My favorite part of his videos is watching him run racks. Incredible player.
im a proud owner of a jacoby kielwood shaft,just got it today
How you liking it? I’m eyeballing one
@@randynelson9773 i love it,im looking for a matching color buttend,it has a lucasi sneaky pete buttend now,i still have a jacoby ulta pro 11.75 shaft
The Billiard Corner the jacoby kielwood shaft has a solid hit,im enjoying
Glad to hear, Jacoby makes great stuff 🇺🇸
Love the rich look of the shaft too 👍
Thanks for the GREAT video! I just reached out to Richard Hsu via his website and inquired about the ability to order the Hsunami 2.0 DR Shaft. Hopefully I will hear back shortly.
Thank you so much for watching!
@@TheBilliardCorner I heard back from Richard and the process begins!
Great review! Short, concise and got a lot of info in a short form video. I need to learn to do this in my reviews. You really stepped your game and I have to get my butt in gear if I am going to catch up. I have 1 coming in in afew weeks hopefully. Keep it up!
Funny, I watch your videos and wish I could talk more and give more info 😂. Looking forward to your next video.
@@TheBilliardCorner thank you for the kind words. It’s good that we can push each other to improve what we do. The next 2 videos won’t be reviews but then I will have a bunch back to back. Hopefully the next one will be out by the end of the week.
videos suck ass like we did
Great video. I think the deflection test, shows me all I need.
Ordered mine can’t wait!!! Awesome video!
Thank you!
Any Feedback? How do you compare it with other wood shafts, Carbon?
This shaft looks great! I am wondering what cue butt is being used? It looks great also!
I'm using a Lambros Snakewood cue in this video
Can you please do a comparison between the Hsunami and the Revo carbon fiber shaft? Thanks
Would love to see this comparison also
Nice work with the review!
Thanks for informative video! Have you tried the Tiger Fortis pro? If so, what is your preference between the hsumani 2.0 or the fortis?
Hey buddy, awesome video! looks like you got 2 different types of ferrule on the same shaft. Is that right?
The yellowish part is the paper micarta vault plate, a white “sight” ring is installed on the plate so it would be easier to see the end of the shaft especially with a darker colored tip. The sight ring is installed on the plate, it’s not just a white pad below the tip
test against ignite shaft and revo shaft
He’s already done those you can find them on his channel
@@traviswilson4752 i meant in a single video comparison
Great video man 👊🏻
BTW…is that a Diamond Pro-Am table and is it a 7’ or 8’….made the mistake of selling my Gold Crown and now looking for a new table….so wondering how it plays and compares to Brunswick Gold Crown or Medalist
My table is the Diamond Pro-Am 7 ft. The Brunswick Gold Crown plays old school and very true. The Diamond has rails that are quite bouncy so you have to get use to them when banking. Easy for me to adjust as I'm still young. I'm enjoying the Diamond a lot and would recommend it.
Great video , thx my best youtuber. but unfourtunatly my ignite is op 😁, what tip are you using ?
Thank you for watching 🙏, Kamui black soft in this video
@@TheBilliardCorner wow , just ordered kamui clear black soft , will put it on soon. My current tip G2 M
@@qqeecp try a thoroughbred medium soft, one of favorites
Same post as on your other kielwood. This sounds even harder and less feel
It Sounds super hard in comparison with my predator Z2… but it’s at the end of its life . Searching a new thin shaft.
Looks it is not as natural as the Z2. But better then carbon What I tested, no feel at all.
Quite the opposite, a lot of feel. I’ve tested all the Predator shafts. Z2 is very thin and whippy. Since Z2 is pie cut and hollowed front end, it feels not very solid.
For the algo! 🤙
That’s even lighter than the original because of the extended torification process
Great video on the new piece, it’s impressive. However, with many other cuemakers now on the kielwood bandwagon, is Richard Hsu the original inventor of kielwood shafts?
I am not, almost every builder offer kielwood at the moment and everyone builds them a little different
The Hsunami is one of the best hitting and lowest deflection in the market. Thanks for watching!
I could fall asleep listening to the beautiful thonky hit sound
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I really want that 2.0 but i have spent to much money on equipmant lately. Would you choose the 2.0 over your playing shaft. Is still the 314 2nd gen?
I never used the 314 2nt gen as a main playing shaft. But I would 100% choose this shaft over the 314 2nt gen all day.
@@TheBilliardCorner what is your main playing shaft and would it be the 2.0 now.
Recommendation? Go with the white vault plate (as seen in your video) or go with just the ferrule? Note: I am going with the Micarta either way!
Depends what you want. White vault plate + micarta as seen in this video is lower deflection. A short micarta ferrule increases deflection a bit but offers a better hit and feel.
I personally go for better hit and feel but many prefer the lower deflection.
Great video, what are tip are you are using and what are the diameter of the tip? Also, after having the cue for a while do you still recommend this cue and the tip?
12.9mm kamui black. Yes I would highly recommend.
How does deflection of 2.0 compare to cf such as Cuetec?
Unsure as I haven't tested the Cuetec, Richard's Hsunami 2.0 DR is very low deflection.
I owned all revo, cuetec, and jacoby black cf shafts I sold all but the jacoby black.
But the jacoby black had some considerable deflection compared to the two.Long story short I switched back to my mezz wx900 with conical taper something about solid maple construction you can’t beat compared to cf. cuetec sat in the middle of revo and the jacoby black. Is it the lowest deflection? No does that matter? No after going down the rabbit hole I found shaft feeling was more important than deflection as I could better guess spin and smaller diameter shaft I also improved my stroke. The added benefits of torrifying a shaft is your making it lighter. Which equal less deflection because less mass. But your also hardening the wood and the wood is less subject to humidity and temp. Plus is just looks dang cool!!!
What tip brand and ferrules are you using what’s recommended
Kamui black soft + Micarta ferrule
Thank you ! Ordered tiger medium with Micarta ferrule waiting 14 weeks … long long time
What does removing liquids and sugars from wood shafts have to do with physics? If you hit a cue ball with left english the cue ball is going to push right no matter how much fluids or sugars are in the wood.
Incorrect. Removing moisture and sugars from the shaft decreases the weight of the entire shaft. Decreasing front end mass decreases deflection. All the big cue manufactures been doing this by other methods such hollowing out the front end and replacing with foam, shorting the ferrule and more.
Absolutely beautiful shaft. I have the original Hsunami and it is amazing. I can only imagine how good the 2.0 is. I'm definitely going to have to pick one up. Does anyone know what butt is being used in this video? The combination of the butt in the video and the Hsunami 2.0 look spectacular together.
I'm using a Lambros Snakewood cue. The 2.0 looks great on darker colored cues!
Nice sounding shaft and nice video. I love torrefied maple shafts.
FYI "torrefication" is not a word. The shafts undergo a "torrefaction" process. I figured you would want to know the correct term for the future.
Keep up the good work!
What is the best way to clean this kielwood shaft?
Just cue wax if light cleaning. If need heavier clean, watch my how to clean a cue shaft video:
th-cam.com/video/kr7PWJJGtTo/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=TheBilliardCorner
i have been waiting for this review. It appears it deflects less than the revo if you go back and compare the 2. Would you agree with this?
I would have to run the test again. My old revo review I didn’t have the best testing methods yet. The Hsunami 2.0 is very low though.
Is the maintenance (like cleaning or getting dents out) the same as normal maple shafts? What is your main player cue now? I assume you are using this shaft.
Same maintenance as any wood shaft. I rotate between all my equipment as I can use any cue.
I may have missed it, but what tip is on the shaft? Thanks........
Kamui Black Soft
The Billiard Corner,sir im looking for a buttend that matches the color of my jacoby kielwood shaft,its a uni lock shaft
I recommend looking for an Ebony, Snakewood or any darker colored wood cue. That would match really well. Since yours is Uni-lock maybe look into Predator or Lucasi cues.
@@TheBilliardCorner i have a lucasi sneaky pete buttend now
I was thinking about switching from a 12.5 to a 12.9?
12.9 more forgiving, 12.5 lower deflection
Should i get diameter under 12.5
Depends what you like
@@TheBilliardCorner i just worry about the vibration when the cue are under 12.5mm
Anyone know whete you can these Babes in Germany?
Direct order from Richard Hsu
Is this 2.0 slick or do u need a glove when playing with it
It''s slick
★How does the Hsunami 2.0 compare to the 1.0?
Thank you.
More feel and less deflection
@@TheBilliardCorner
Interesting... I would've thought being 'cooked' longer would have less feel. Thank you.
How does it compare to to the LD shaft from Mike Lambros
Mike’s shaft has a crispy, slightly sharp, tonky hit. The Hsunami 2.0 has a deep, rich, crispy hit. Really hard to describe and understand without hitting the shafts in person. Best to watch both videos and compare the sound tests. You will be able to hear the difference. Both great shafts just depends on your preference.
@@TheBilliardCorner Thanks..watching both videos and listening to the sound test....I can definitely tell the Hsunami has a deeper, heavier sounding hit...almost like thumping...the Lambros has a lighter sound and most what I am used to, since I play with a cue made by him....Just wondering cause I ordered his Ultra LD shaft before this video came out...Initially when I watched your review on the original Hsunami and Lambros Ultra LD shafts, it looked like the Lambros shaft did a little better in the deflection tests. But it seems like the 2.0 is better on Deflection than the original....I'm still waiting for my shaft and hope to have it by the end of this month
@@Nuttz4Sports No problem, thank you for watching
What is the tip diameter and tip type?
12.9mm Kamui Black in this video
How does this compare to a carbon fiber shaft
more feel
What tip are you playing with
Kamui black soft
Do you know if they have the wavy 2 joint?
Richard does almost every popular pin, I recommend contacting Richard Hsu to double check.
Ok thanks
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nice whats a rough price on this?
Starting at 449$
What mm tip are you using
12.9mm in this video
What's the specs on the Hsunami 2.0 in this video?
12.9mm, Paper micarta vault plate, Kamui black soft tip, 30 inch length
How much for the 2.0? And is there a butt that goes with it?
@@wayneburba9457 they start at $449, I’m currently not taking on any cue orders
@@Larryrandom2549 I honestly have no idea when I will be taking cue orders again. I’m booked for the next several years at the moment and most likely I won’t be taking on any new orders until most of my current orders are filled. Thank you!
What's the tip diameter?
12.9mm in this video. You can order with whatever diameter you want through Richard.
imagine pro vs cone taper
You can't order these. He's not taking new orders. I even offered to pay double, no interest.
He’s back ordered so he briefly stopped taking orders to catch up. Just wait a bit and he will start taking orders again.
@@TheBilliardCorner ok but he told me he was 2 to 3 years out.
Yo hit me up
What's up?
Stupid bullshit. There is no such thing as kielwood. These shafts are simply roasted maple. I build guitars with roasted maple necks all the time. Not a big deal and definitely not worth 350 bucks, because it just doesn’t really cost much to bake the wood other than a special oven.