Did Genshin Make Neuvillette TOO Strong? - Mualani Gameplay Analysis | Genshin Impact
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- The first character of Natlan that will be made playable is Mualani, an extremely strong Hydro Main DPS unit with potential to deal overwhelming amounts of damage. But in light of the changes made to her prior to her release along with people comparing her to Neuvillette, I wanted to make a video discussing if it was a mistake to make him so overpowered.
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Hoyo:this is an 5 star hydro!!!
The community:Hoyo this is the 11th time that you show an 5 star hydro in class!!
And a catalyst, at that
daym you beat me to it @@Kizakoe
And a catalyst user too... Fontaine was the hydro region, hydro claymore when?
no because at this point hydro is the most exclusive element considering two out of three 4* hydro units aren't that good and xingqiu needs his cons.
Over half the catalyst roster is anemo and hydro
"Neuvillette took the entire Hydro element by storm"
I'm going to explode you with my mind
Explodes pancakes with mind
He’s boring, just sprays his sprm all around in a circle like teenager out of control.
@@exalted7906 my fuckin pancakes
@@tropicthndr so that's how Melusines are born
@@tropicthndr that's wild
No, he wasn't a mistake, releasing dehya as she was, now that was a mistake
It wasn't a mistake they made her shit on purpose and then dumped her in the standard banner
Everybody fav dps will say that. It's just a way to power creep. No he wasn't a mistake, yeah she is overtuned he wasn't a mistake.
Can't wait when the new dps will power creep neuvillette just as he did to other characters. Then neuv mains will cry. And when sneznya comes along he the previous top dps will be power crept making everybody else more and more useless.
@@ThelostPenguin0 I actually don't have him and I am in fact going for mualani, I never liked his play style personally.
A char so broken.......she isnt even finished💀
He is a mistake he's just straight up unbalanced.
My real issue with Mualani isn't even the unit herself, it's that she contributes to the issue of Hydro being an insanely ridiculously overtuned element, it is without question the best element in the game and it's not even remotely close, it has a unit that can do what every other element's main gimmick is either nearly as well or even better than it. Like remember how Geo's only merit is that it's a very self reliant and insular elemtn that doesn't need reactions to work? Well now Mono Hydro absolutely beats its ass in that regard. And remember how pyro is supposed to be the dps focused element? Well aside from Arlecchino it's only a bit competitive with Hydro in that regard now
Well, it has no shielder or grouper, but your point stands. Arguably, you can say the same thing about pyro now, especially with chevreuse added to the Bennett, xiangling pile
@@Bliss467almost every hydro unit is amazing xinqiu yelan furina neuv mualani kokomi nilou etc they are quite literally destined for success even sigewinne isn’t as bad due to her element
Is there any design space left in Hydro other than a shielder or a forward vape carry?
@@biggestouf Mualani is already going to be a forward vape carry. So only shielder is left, for now.
Hu Tao and Xiangling are still good tho
9:43 "Neuvillette is just broken broken there's no buts"
Hydro Tulpa:
Hydro tulpa. I introduce you to navia.
Thank you for opening our eyes with your insightful and astute observation, I'm sure many of us couldn't guess neuvi is bad against a hydro immune enemy
@@Regulos-yn2to BOOOOOO TOMATO TOMATO TOMATO 🍅🍅🍅
@@Regulos-yn2toeye of perception neuvillette:
@@arizona_anime_fan i think you meant XL
After playing Genshin pretty seriously for 3+ years I pull purely for design and playstyle now. I’m just here to enjoy the world and characters and finish the story. Plan is to pull for 2-3 characters a year I really love because I don’t even use half the characters I’ve already built, and barely bother to play abyss.
That's very simple if u like pull or don't it's about enjoying the character you play not about beating a chamber that changes a month
Ratio
Samee
So fucking based, I aspire to be like you
Gotta love the casual friendliness with a geo party that I had to take back what I said about this game during genshin killer launch lmao.
On one hand, i don't mind neuvillette being strong since, lore and gameplay wise he's supposed to be, but on the other hand, i dont like how newer dps are forced to either be on par with neuvillette or be called sub-par by the community since they aren't as strong as neuvillette. And its even worse for older dps that were good on release now that they need to have more effort put into them to be called comparable to neuvillette.
The problem is that he’s strong + he doesnt require even 1 braincell to play. I think a monkey if trained could beat the abyss with just neuvilette. If he was hard to play it would have been justified, i dont know what mihoyo was thinking. I think a lot of people will prefer mualani because she has a more challenging and rewarding gameplay
All Fontaine DPS are strong, they just need specific team for their best output. It's just that Neuvillette is overated and brainless gameplay. It's also the reason why Imaginarium Theater existed so that people are not using Neuvillette over and over.
It should always be Lore ≠ gameplay
Also they cost the same primos bruh. They shouldn't be a big disparity of dmg between them.
@@yujin-1907 Tell that to the playable Archons
@@yujin-1907well then how come every archon is the best in their respective element? Yes even Venti, cuz when he works he is the literal best character in the game.
I feel like this topic is discussed every single patch
Yah but it doesn't mean we can't talk about. I remember when it was hu tao and every dps after her. I wonder who will replace the dragon otter?
Edit: I mean when the question was "Why play anyone but her?"
@@beanclrReplace Neuvilette? Just put them in different teams, bro.
Fr doom posters are so annoying
Then don't watch? @@Sqeauk-123
@@xenoemblem7 Oh I didn't mean stop playing him. Just who is going to dethrone him. I mean when's the last time an abyss guide has really recommended hu tao as a top candidate. She used to be all over the place. Even during inazuma patch. Someone might do that to him at some point.
I mean you can't bring Neuvillette to both side of the abyss, and let alone to all 10 chambers of the IT (if you can even brind hydro in the first place), and these 2 cases are the only ones where a comparison is even remotely valid.
They will just make new units not work with Neuvillette or Furina.
or they get the venti treatment nerf them by the way of making enemies immune to their playstyle or make their playstyle 90% less effective
@@Tm-dy2bp its hard to make dmg% less effective though, its just a pure buff without restrictions
Idk about you but there's never a time when you should bring 2 same element dps in the abyss. If the top is perfect for neuvilette, then the bottom must be opposite element of him like pyro or something. Thats why Him powecreep every hydro dps is very bad for this game
@@gullivurr1394 easy invincible phases, constant hiding like geovishap hatchlings or enemies that can block/parry dmg back at you done next question. BONUS more elemental shielded enemies for invincible to said element that can change its element on the fly or static whichever comes first
@@Tm-dy2bpthis seems like a way to punish the roster that isn’t as strong as nuevillette rather than just tuning down the numbers a little.
it's only fitting for them to make neuvillette stronger than the rest, considering he canonically is one of the OG inhabitators of teyvat, being a sovereign and all. so I wouldn't say mistake, rather it was intentional.
Agree
It was an intentional action with zero foresight , hence a mistake. They obviously intended for him to he strong and intended for him to be popular and bring in the big cash , but didn't have the foresight to predict that the absurd amount of shilling in the story would make many people dislike him, and that his ridiculous power level and him taking away spotlight from other characters would damage future unit's sales on top of everyone being just a bit more angry when a unit they were looking forward to is mediocre , because if Neuvilette is allowed to make a joke out of any semblance of balance this game had , then surely my waifu is allowed to be strong as well even if not as much.
The easy way to rationalize Neuvillette being as Op is to categorized him as we categorized the Archons being a subset of Genshin characters justified to be being exceptationally strong from the rest of the cast. Neuvillette being a Hydro Sovereign should be the benchmark for other playable sovereign characters in the future and not just any characters just like the Archons was.
By that logic, Zhongli should be absolutely cracked
@@NevertahnProduction I mean, he is now. He basically turns the game into easy mode. They needed to build new enemies that ignore def just to make him not overpowered.
I don’t get why people keep calling her a flop, I mean she just released, do people really expect a character to reach their full potential on day one?
Same reason on why DMG is so important for a character in genshin overall. Monkey like big numbers even if it really doesn't even matter.
Fr look at baizhu
Meta slaves.
If a DPS isn’t the best then they can basically be considered the worst. That is usually how their mentality goes.
Mualani and Neuvillette are both insanely strong, and while one may be better than the other it doesn’t mean the weaker one is useless.
If I can still play this game and clear content with 1.0 units without much of a struggle then Mualani competing with Neuvillette isn’t really a problem since at the end of the day they aren’t necessary, are they useful and strong? Yeah, necessary? No.
It's not a flop, it's just a goofy character. The shark and the pixel guy are just out of place. It would have been fine if they were introduced in the event roblox area.
She isn't even technically released now, currently the maintance is going on Updating the game adding her!
I think Mualani looks hella fun to play and I do have Neuvilette!!!
I am excited for later
Genshin is doing everything it can to make us Mona mains feel stupid
Yup
Mona mains exist? 💀
@axetbh I believe this reply was intended for the man known as "Albedo"?
@@jetkirby3981as an albedo main I do exist
Mona is still a good sub dps/support. Using her is not stupid, its actually a good strategy, if you don't have Furina using her is a good alternative, although not consistent as Furina but still a good alternative
People tend to exaggerate just how much Neuvillette powercrept the hydro DPS niche, not realizing that he is really a one of a kind character. Other hydro DPS characters (Ayato, Childe, Mualani) are reaction drivers, while Neuvillette gets most of his buffs from Furina or VV. If you ran the numbers, the difference between Mualani and Neuvillette teams is likely pretty negligible. It's just Neuvillette's simple playstyle and lack of competition that makes him appear so broken.
Agreed, his DPS style is different to all those nuke DPS characters.
They need to introduce another AOE sustain DPS like him to join his category
It’s not just number crunching. It’s the fact that neuvillette works in aoe and single target really well. He also has synergy with most supports in the game
One of a kind and the absolute best of his kind.
His DPS is different but it doesn't matter because the enemies are dead
Technically Lyney does more damage. But is he really more powerful?
Hoyo seems to specialize in ensuring that somewhere, someway each character gets to really shine, so I think it's fine if Mualani doesn't immediately crush Neuvillette in raw damage.
Not super relevant, but lorewise, it makes sense that Neuvillette would be overpowered. Just like how all of the archons are the best at whatever the "point" of their element is (Venti = crowd control, Zhongli = Shielding, etc), Neuvi should be a top ranker as the hydro dragon sovereign. It also kinda makes sense that a dragon sovereign, something that was on Teyvat before the archons or humans, would follow slightly different rules than the humans who use the same element (even if he was technically reincarnated post-humanity).
I don’t know if they ensure such a thing for most characters. But, I agree. Mualani should have some time for players to work out the kinks before just throwing her in the bin.
I was away from the game for 3 months so I can honestly say, I just wanted Mualani cause I think she's cute and looked fun for exploring. I think it depends what the player is looking for, if you're all about big numbers then you might be a little strict on who you pull. I'm a day one player who've taken multiple breaks just about every year, but I'm at the point to where I'm just pulling fun pretty characters then moving onto other games.
This video honestly leaves a bad taste for both Mualani and Neuvillette mains as there are people who just genuinely enjoy them without the whole bullsh*t meta discussion theatrics
Like nobody is forcing people to pull for Neuvillette or Mualani if they don’t want to. Video’s like these are what breeds this meta toxicity into the community
Honestly pretty saddening video to watch right before the launch of Natlan
@@user-sm5vo7ob9xI definitely agree. It's such an unnecessary degree of critique. The hyper focus on meta is so yawn to me at this point. There are so many good dps options to choose from in this game and you can't go wrong with any five star dps unit you find fun to play.
@@user-sm5vo7ob9x Interesting, because his whole account (afa genshin goes) is about not giving in to meta hypes. He judges characters based on how they function compared to the game design (which is about elemental reactions) and how they stand against the test of time. Long-term usefulness and potential...
Plus, the entire video is about how we should stop comparing characters to Neuvillette and how these two (with Mualani) have different functions in your account. He says, you should choose whichever fits your playstyle. And that having them both would be ideal.
I like his videos because they are trying to be objectively informative while others are biased and a total clickbait from start to finish.
E g. Jello Impact just released a video with a title saying that Mualani power crept Neuvillette. While he talks about how clunky it is to play her, how he had to try multiple times to get a good clear with her on an abyss floor where his C0 Neuvillette did the job on first try. And then concludes that with future supports Mualani will be better but then the same supports are good for Neuvillette, so he won't be power crept overall.... A very biased, self-denial heavy, confusing clickbait.
This video keeps telling that we should not compare characters to the dragon sovereign because he has a unique design that -one could argue - is a mistake, because now other characters look bad unless they match him - and he argues they shouldn't necessarily...
I came back to the game just because I thought mualani looked super awesome and cute, and her gameplay looks/feels really fun imo
Would pull her over Neuvillette any day
Bitching abt a character loosing 13% overall dps when they can still one shot 80% of the enemies in the game is insane. Truly genshin community behaviour
it'll will mever be good enough for the average genshin player
Your point is invalid
80% of enemies are grind mobs so their weak existence is irrelevant.
It’s like saying all 4* are good because they can easily deal with an hilichurl. Completely useless damage calculation
@@Zuvas first, you just proved my point. Go pick mint in your dinosawr monstad loser.
Second, your point is invalid because all enemies in the overworld are supposed to be farm enemies, including world and weekly bosses. If not, go ask someone who's played for more than a year and a half how fast they can kill Childe.
Third, even with the 13% nerf, the only time you wouldn't be able to one cycle an enemy would be *ONCE EVERY TWO WEEKS* in abyss.
Go cry me a river, it's a gacha game, and an outdated one at that
@@giansabbadini1626 Tell me you're a Techtone simp without telling me :^)
@@Zuvas hoyo bots when they get answered with logic:
Also, no. I don't watch his streams, i barely watch any of his videos and I'm not even in his DC. However, I bet your twitter name has the boycott # on the desc 🤡🤡🤡
everyone complaining abt mualani being nerfed , but here i am going " HOLY SHIT , TWO CAKES "
I think the neuvi situation (him warping peoples perceptions of whats "broken") is similar to other gacha games e.g. acheron from hsr, jinhsi from wuwa, so i think ive gained a better understanding of neuvis situation because of the other circumstances, because people will doompost about other characters (as u mentioned) not being good enough, but in reality, theyre still ur "average broken dps" or even better, and seeing this pattern across just other gacha games that i enjoy sure is interesting
My glorious White-haired King could never be a mistake, he's the best thing that happened to this game
He is boring 😅
Not for everyone 🤷🏾♀️ @@keq8123to each his own 😌
That’s fair, he’s not for everyone. Still the GOAT tho
Wrong
Aside from the brain dead level of gameplay and some stans with huge egos he's a cool unit, hoyo made him too strong with little to no downsides which could potentially ruin future dps characters
strong = mistake
mid = who cares
weak = unplayable
there is no way to win against the argument just pull based on the looks and gameplay that's the best way to play this game.
No, you can be strong, but not a mistake as long as your strengths don't eclipse characters in the same archetype.
i think most people would rather a mistake or who cares over unplayable
there is nothing worse than the feeling of a character you liked and waited to get him/her for a couple of updates like kaveh only for him to turn out to be worse than dori somehow
You need to be strong at one thing,
Being strong at everything is a mistake
Game balance matters.
Wrong.
Strong/Balanced = Good
Overly strong = Mistake
i feel that neuvillette being the strongest in his element just feels right, he is the hydro dragon after all and the sovereigns are more powerful than the archons
Edit: im not saying that you aren’t allowed to to play anyone other than neuvi. Endgame is not that hard. If you want to play main dps dori or any other team im not stopping you or telling you to use neuvi instead. Im just saying it is logical he is the strongest. Yea we do have human characters that are meta and again im not saying not to play them, play who you want, its just that neuvi has some lore backing up his overpowerness
Isn't he technically an archon at this point in the lore lol
@@airtempest8945 no, there is no archon in fontaine because the throne was destroyed. he has become the "ruler" but he is not the archon lol
Relating character damage to lore is very limiting in designing Future characters. At some point in the future, players will get tired of playing Neuvillette and imagine Hoyo having this mindset, refusing to release any other Hydro character that's stronger than him because of "lore".
@@jacobdonut4932 I honestly don’t mind us having another “neuvillette”, it would be for the best tbh. It was the same with hu tao and even after arle ppl still use her because she is still strong!
@@jacobdonut4932...and? What's the issue? Can't those tired players easily play other dps chars, and clear content with them? That's, like, the entire point of getting new 5* for a veteran player in the first place, to have more fun with different units.
He’s definitely a mistake, he’s a damage dealer with practically no weaknesses. Reliable self healing, basically no down time for his dps window, doesn’t require really any specific units to function, doesn’t require any needs of grouping to handle AOE. And his only true “downside” being lack of IR during his charge attack is not only just a non issue in actuality, but is so easy to play around that it’s not even a real concern.
Ye he's definitely wayy too all rounded but to be fair I'm glad they let the hydro sovereign be busted, not some other random character. It would seem strange if they made mualani much stronger than him as lore wise she's nowhere near as relevant
@@youngfigarogotta be an L tale remember that a funny ghost girl has been a top 5 or top 6 unit since forever now even when a super strong character like raiden lore wise who has insane feats does less dmg than some girl who sells coffins
@@konokai1176 "some girl who sells coffins"
The casually walks the border between life and death daily.
I don't know where this "she's just some girl" idea came from but go rewatch her story quest, because she's not some normal girl.
I don't even like Tao, you are just objectively wrong.
@@jadecoolness101 they're exaggerating but you're also cherry-picking. they still stand corrected as their point is right about an offensively poweful archon outperformed by hutao.
@@jadecoolness101 she ofc takes her job seriously but literally if you compare raiden to her in terms of lore and the fact that hu tao does more damage is crazy simular to how a dancer can make weak units do more damage compared to a god
10:33 I don't know how many people actually think this way - personally, I consider him and arle to be the exception, not the rule. They're that good but they aren't the standard I hold other characters to. Maybe that's just me though. (I also didn't pull for them, but that's because I have skill issue playing them, not because I don't want to use game-breaking characters.)
I freaking hate how the community thinks this way, just pull for the units that suit YOUR tastes and not the meta or how you think they stack against other people’s units
@user-sm5vo7ob9x I'm someone who disagrees with this personally. Sole reason is due to Opportunity cost which has always been a thing with gachas.
If I am a player who is spending a minimum of 200 USD for one character it better be worth the money and or time investment I spend if I am a f2p player to get that character especially in a Gacha game. Sure you can just not do the endgame, keep in mind I'm okay with people not doing endgame and enjoying the characters, but what if I'm a player who enjoys limit testing my account.
It can easily spiral out of control with that line of thinking imo as the character you put a lot of effort into are just discarded the moment the next best thing comes around.
There isn't anything wrong with enjoying characters, regardless of player new or old, but who are you to dismiss a very real problem that actually cna severely affect the game because opportunity cost is VERY real regardless of if there is a endgame or not
Opportunity cost can also come up just as much with "trying to get your favorites" as with "trying to get the meta ones". Not only by the unknown nature of future banners but also with the fact that sometimes those meta characters can really help your favorites do better. Think of some of the cyno mains who later regretted him because there weren't any dendro units out (other than nahida, who they might not have been able to get because he was 3.1 and she was 3.2) and that made him feel bad to play. How characters feel to play or their damage affects how people see them anyway. Those people were more likely to pull for characters like furina or baizhu (either for meta, personality, or both). There's not a well-defined line between meta and favorites in this game and there isn't supposed to be. It's supposed to be a mix of both.
Also, this game isn't hard enough to completely block using a character as long as they're well invested and have a good team. Example: while my Chongyun mono cryo is not good enough to clear floor 12 yet (I have a lot of dead stats and I need a better weapon), the team has no problem with floors 11 and below. I just use a different two teams to do floor 12.
I don't mean to call anyone out here, just wondering why the divide is always so strong between "meta" and "casual" players.
@patricialock1862 I think I can provide the meta viewpoint as I'm someone who aims to get 36 consistently which has been happening for a couple years albiet to took a lot of time for me to get there.
The game isn't dark souls hard but the challenge is still there due to how Hoyo is presenting the current endgame of Abyss and Theatre. I'll be moreso talking about the Abyss tbvh.
When hoyo decides the lineup to be for the promotional character in rotation which is quite common the underlying feeling of Abyss is that it's used to promote them, that was the general thing with Abyss until version 2.1 where Abyss line up was a lot heavier, venti wasn't able to group things anymore due to the weight being changed as a nerf to him so the difficulty increased ever since version 2 of the Abyss. When version 3 came out it increased again albiet due to the fact that not everyone had the opportunity to get the dendro units like Alhaitham and Nahida early on. They were also so universal especially nahida that it was essentially you gotta get them to make Abyss easier to clear unless if hoyo puts in stalling timer bosses like Wenut, Golden Wolflord etc which is where a lot of frustration lies in abyss.
Then 3.7 Abyss came out and hoyo put 4 mil hp on consecrated beasts, dendro doggo and Crocodile who do have a built in resistance to freeze meaning the timer for the freeze was lowered and you need to kill 2 waves of them in under 1min 30 sec.
It's ever since then that people have to be cautious with what happens im Abyss as hoyo can put monsters with already high scaling and aren't fun to fight like wenut as a example and just make the HP go higher and higher until only people who have like PERFECT gear can beat them. With changes to Venti not being ablr to be pulling in heavier monsters until very late change in version 2. Something. Hoyo can and will make the endgame harder artificially so you cannot get the reward of premium currency which is what you want so you can save for characters you like more in the future. Ironically you need characters that are strong regardless of if you like them or not.
So pulling a character that's weak will make your time with endgame much more unbearable as it's more frustrating than challenging especially due to the fact you are on a strict dps timer of 3 mins if you are aiming for 36. It's okay if people aren't aiming for 36 don't get it twisted but for players like me who want to test as best as I can with the units I got. It's a struggle when hoyo deliberately makes things more artificial and you need units that others definitely may not have.
For reference I have a lot of the meta units like Neuv c1, Furina, alhaitham, Nahida c2. kazuha etc. But that's because I played long enough and got lucky a lot too so my experience isn't the same as others anymkre due to my account being so strong as a f2p that people would consider me a whale
@@neo-zamatoYour comment is beautiful but the best thing is the last paragraph. You have invested vertically into few units. No matter how good characters they release in future, your vertically invested units will carry you and you will always be free to pull even slightly weaker units.
It is the f2p misconceptions content creators like Zhajef use to spread their propaganda of how you can 36 star with half ass 4 star teams. They make f2p players think Pulling for cons or weapons= Super bad when it is the best approach to play the game. They literally have C6 4 stars and r5 favonious weapons and f2ps think they give f2ps false hope that they can recreate the performance with their c0 Xiangling and c1 Xingqiu.
F2ps should pull for their favourite characters, pull for their premium teams, early cons and with weapon banner buff in 5.0 weapons too and play solid teams that can actually constantly clear the abyss no matter how much they ramp up the dps check.
He IS the Hydro Sovereign, he has all the lore reasons to be the most OP character.
For Dehya to be as weak as she is and for the 1.0 starter 4 stars as strong as they are, those are mistakes.
Lore =/= gameplay.
Powercreep is never a good thing.
C6 Clorinde > C6 Raiden. Clorinde folds the Shogun
Also remember that the 3rd top dps unit in the game is a dude who skips work to read books and a girl with a umbrella gun lore doesn’t give reason if that was the case then venti would still be meta
lyney? navia? mualani? why is miko a downgrade in most teams compared to fischl? and why does clorinde, if not more, does as much dmg as raiden? then we have ganyu who is a high risk and low reward character. they're making newer units more powerful to look more appealing compared to the older ones and it has nothing to do with lore.
Before people go rambling about powercreep in my replies, idgaf about it, it is present in every Hoyo and gacha games.
You guys missed the point that for Neuvilette's case to be OP is no big deal. Why not give the strongest lore wise playable character the strongest most braindead kit?
People even mentioning powercreep is so hillarious, like what is there to even fight with. The game is an explore and character collection. Go speak about powercreep in the 2 Honkai games thats much more relevant.
I think when Neuvillette stopped Childe's form that was when we knew he was the best Hydro DPS in the game yet alone the best overall
Nuevillette being a dragon sovereign with full power losing to Natlan Amber
Powercreep is unhealthy in any games
@@Josh-qt5ziI wouldn't say u healthy. Powercreep is needed to keep games fresh.
I would argue it is way more less of a problem in a single player game than it is in multiplayer games.
@@Josh-qt5zi Yes. But I'll take any powercreep that makes the otter glazers stop.
@infrnlmssh9719 this is starting to become the same problem hsr is facing especially to many 5 star very few 4 star
@@infrnlmssh9719 Nah if they release any character that powercreeps nuevi hoyoverse will get flammed and they will give us another free 10 pull lol
ppl acting like you can't clear content without neuvilette
Hoyo seems pretty self aware of how much of a corner they’ve put themselves into with power levels and are trying to compensate for that fact with yes, these new Natlan characters being more focused on mobility both to appeal to newbies/outsiders intimidated by the massive 5 year old map and to give the established players (who don’t have Kazuhya/Wanderer or Yelan) more reason to roll for new characters for reasons besides power.
And yet they still wanted to have that cake too or else they wouldn’t and tried pulling the stunt they did with nerfing Hydro pump. It’s nice to seem them spooked out of complacency after not having to give a shit since Zhongli
People still think fixing an exploit counts as a nerf? This community I CAN'T
@@elstrangeenemy887an “exploit” that took until the newest Hydro DPS to come out before they finally noticed? Yea sure.
@@vinnythewebsurfer I'm not defending if they did it with those intentions or not, but it is an exploit so stop whining about it
@@elstrangeenemy887 you don't understand what an exploit is. This is not an exploit.
Honestly this is the saddest part for me. I probably would've loved to have this character but I frankly do not care.
How good can she be if hoyo felt the need to nerf Neuvillette to make her more appealing? The lack of confidence hoyo has in her REEKS. Why should I pull her if her state necessitated nerfing a previous character?
I mean I'm not pulling for meta, but like I said, the lack of confidence reeks. I mean hoyo has NEVER directly altered a character like this right before their competitor releases.
So she's just "that girl who is so bad they had to try to nerf previous characters to sell her." Rip to anyone who likes her, you have far more patience for hoyo bs than me. But she got the absolute worst marketing imaginable.
I like Mualanis dancing with the maracas 😂
Mualani pits🤤
@@f.b.lagent1113 damn who do you call when you need to arrest an FBI agent?
@@ShiftarusTheir parents
The most important reason to pull for her
@@Shiftarus ghost busters
Amber: Outrider Expert
Xiao: An Emo Character
Ayaka: Future Yandere
Tighnari: Forest Watcher
Lyney and Lynette: Magic Show Duo
Mualani: Surfer Lady
i like your joke now do monstadt and inazuma cuz i forgot who started those nation
@@nagiplayssMondstadt was Venti :3 and Inazuma I think was Ayaka and Yoimiya but not sure owo
@@FemboiMuffinthoma
@@FemboiMuffinthoma
@@FemboiMuffin I think it was thoma, you could also count kazuha I guess
I personally like Neuvillette alot, he's just so comfy in the overworld (tall male = run fast, self sustain, just E instead of doing a whole freaking set up) and makes hard multi wave abysses less of a burden to my mental. But I do agree that it's easy to get good damage with him and his existence hurts hydro and the game noticeably. But I just don't know why people compare characters to him, they are not in the same niche, element, don't have the same team nor play style, all of them can clear abyss, why don't just treat him like that one meme character like qiqi ( him being absurdly good instead of absurdly bad) and move on with life. Just pull for who you like, if you're already happy with your characters then why worry about who you don't have or don't like.
I'm not sure if he's a mistake but I also don't have him. I've skipped him and probably always will. If you told me 70% of all genshin players really care about a character's power lvl I'd believe it. I'm in the minority. Power matters but only as much as their design weapon element and character matter. When Mualani was dripped I thought she looked cool I might pull but was then immediately turned off because everyone said she was a catalyst user. For me the redeeming quality was that I really like her VA so I'll pull her. Yoimiya is considered one of the weaker 5* dps units and she's a staple pick for me in my abyss teams with my other 2 main teams being Itto and Navia teams. With Genshin being as easy as it is you can kinda run who ever you want given you have enough investment and understanding of the game mechanics.
Yeah, I agree. For me, Mualani's pull value is almost exclusively because of her skill and the fact that I know a lot of people will want Kinich and Kachina stuffs, so it's nice to have the Natlan locator skill for QoL. The fact that she has vaporize utility that synergizes well with what I have is more a bonus on that.
As someone who personally despises his gameplay and outfit design (I understand people like it, it's just not for me), I'll never pull for him either. My account functions perfectly fine without him, clearing the abyss and imanginarium with ease. No character is a must pull. Artifact luck is king.
Fr. I really dislike Neuvillette, he's just another on-field 5 star that I don't need because 4 stars are more than good enough. He might be the best on-field DPS character, but you'll never get me to stop playing Wanderer on 1st half and Heizou on 2nd half.
I will say, I do understand the frustration behind Neuvillette despite not having him. Trying to discuss on-field DPS after his release has been equally as obnoxious as trying to discuss Anemo characters with Kazuha's existance. I've seen people call Hu Tao bad now, it's crazy.
@@marqkcWell you are on right track. The problem of Neuvillete is he discard other characters like Yelan and Xingqiu. Even some on-fielders can still share damage on-screen with quickswap like Raiden+Eula or Ayaka+Ayato... Neuvillete cuts the selective team members, even meta ones like Yelan to synergy with him.
If you pull Neuvillette, better just go with pulling his constelation to C6 as well rather than pulling other 6 DPS.
Weapon type not element
Nuevillette has to be overpowered. He's a DRAGON SOVERN cannonly stronger then humans and gods. It makes sense for him to be so OP.
"Lore strength correlates to meta strength" mfs when they find out Xiangling has no idea how to fight.
as if zhongli the GEO ARCHON isnt just a shielder❤🎉
Soo how strong do you want the heavily principles to be then? I mean they basically clapped all the dragons so they have to be absolutely gamebreaking after that logic
@@bluefox9436 do you really think we would play as any heavanly principals? Cause I don't think so.
Honestly I don't want anyone to be better than Neuvi at least as of now.. Why? Cause he is the literal sovereign... An entity who has the entire authority over a certain element.. The only characters who should be anywhere as good as him are the other sovereigns and the primodial one
Lore doesnt matter in gameplay it never did.
@@luutio9000 they're giving their opinion. you can't just say "it doesn't matter" when someone speaks about their perspective, it matters to them
@@luutio9000 If thats true then how come every Archon is considered S-Tier right now at C0? Please choose your words carefully next time. 😂
@@shotsfrom9180 How come that kachina beat mualani in Natlan archon quest but Mualani is 5* and one of the best dps when Kachina is 4* support for navia?
The reason archons are powerfull is because they have big role in archon quest(boosts sale's) and if they were bad in lauch(zhongli) CN community would burn Mihoyo down xD.
Nothing to do with lore. There are many characters that are insanely powerfull in lore but ingame are meh
My thoughts? Another dub for husbando fans like me since he and Alhaitham are the only meta-relevant male DPS characters who aren’t stuck to plunging
same. im just really happy we get cream-of-the-crop male dpses
Someone gotta be the topdog... Im happy its Neuvilette
Basedvillette
so unfortunate that he’s SO fucking boring
@@DiamondCityLights as opposed to...? I feel like I'm in the twilight zone where Genshin has the most complex gameplay ever. Units are suuuper difficult to execute.
Neuvilette is just as boring as all the others.
He's a bit easier but Genshin's gamplay as a whole is kiddie level.
@@manetarofl I wouldn't even call him easier to play since you have to control him and his aim, unlike a lot of characters that have auto aim and auto target and you just mash buttons.
@@stanysk Right? I meant easier because he has self sustain.
Combat being the focus for a lot of people is the real mistake if you ask me.
Genshin's main premise and selling point is being open world, which entails some combat yes, but mobility and field utility are also key aspects to it. Dozens of characters have zero move/field aspects to their kits, not to mention the number of artifact sets with non-combat effects in the game has remained the same since launch. (just one)
I hope the introduction of World Level 9 is a sign that they will get on that and bring the overworld to life...
We had this conversation with RS and Nahida, people will eventually just decide to not want to use him because more interesting options come out. Neuvilette being boring to play. Is what’s gonna make people want to pull for newer people.
Sorry, I do not know who you had doing calculations for you, but Mualani's overall damage decreased a lot more than 15% over the beta... Also, Mualani is ridiculously overpowered and I already have her dealing damage on par with Neuvillette at level 50 with a level 20 weapon... I think the Genshin community needs a serious redefinition to their understanding of character strength, because I hear so many insane takes about characters being weak...
Righttt??? I’m genuinely so appalled at ppl saying mualani is weak?? When I got her I tried a normal vape in open world and 300k appeared, with a normal attack and I was so shocked… and that made me decide to get C1 and now I’m planning to get C2, I legitimately think that she’s the most broken in the game rn??? Or am I delusional?
@@jingleroses no, you are right. People are just dumb.
Can’t stand this “wow this character is very good! It was a mistake” type mentality.
Well, when in the same game there's a 1 man army character being so strong AND tanky WITH sustain you can run him alone in a team/reaction based game when there is also, at the same time, a dysfunctional 5* being so bad she's basically incomplete without constellations and literally worse than most 4*s...there is a problem.
Neuvillette is just too overrated, man. Ease of use doesn't mean dps.
Arlecchino, Alhaitham, childe, nilou, hutao, to name a few quite literally beat him in the dps department in their respective teams with similar investment.
Players who started from 4.0 are too braindead to understand wtf a rotation is. Any new dps that comes out are doomposted by neuvillette clears with his good teams, while other dps gets "teams."
The neuvillette riding is so obvious.
As a player who quit in update 2.6 and came back in 4.8, I felt the power creep like crazyyyy. I used to 36 star abyss, but now my mistsplitter Ayaka and wgs Eula can barely keep up. And characters like my Ganyu and Yoimiya are just too weak for abyss
Simple solution for me. I don't like him so I won't pull him. Now I don't need to worry about him being op.
People are completely missing the point in the comment section… All the sudden they are talking about lore😭 Neuvi is definitely a mistake. He literally has zero weakness. Im sure hoyo will think of a way to nerf him indirectly. Just like how bennet is “nerfed” because of HP scaling character and boss that could 1 shot you with vaporise. I reckon it would be harder to nerf neuvi though.. Being strong isnt a problem in itself but the fact that he can output that much dmg with little downtime, can self sustain and can be used in many teams is overkill. Only going to make future powercreeping much worse
Mualani's case reminds me of Yoimiya's,
When she came out, Hu Tao was already the queen of Pyro and everyone was comparing them, saying that Yoimiya was a fraud and everything. But in fact Yoimiya was and always is a decent character, it's just that the competition have been going crazy on her.
To a point yes, but they are at least both more niche characters as they are mainly single target. Yoimiya was never more than the 2nd best at that niche, but neither her or Hu Tao were beating Xiangling in AoE either. Neuvi is a generalist who is easy to play, has self-sustain and is just good vs every type of content. More niche hydro dps chars would need to significantly outperform him in at least their own particular niche to even be worth considering picking up over him gameplay-wise.
He was not a mistake, but me pulling for him was because Wriothesley seems to never be getting a rerun. And he's too easy to play, so he made the game boring for me to play cause there's no real challenge with him. Hence, I've stopped relying on him and am trying to play other characters that Imfind more fun like Clorinde.
Never getting a rerun? Yeah, get in line bud, there is a cryo hottie that hasn't come down from the mountains for 2 years now
@@miroheartech4231which character is that?
@@nothing3887 Shenhe
@@nothing3887 a certain "not actually an adeptus" character
@@arcofhell Ganyu ?
neuvillette is what Acheron did to Star Rail, badly influencing how people view DPS
Neuvillette simply got that 1.0 4 star treatment. He set the standard and future characters will be worse off for it as it seems like there's a damage output range that hoyo doesn't want to exceed
I think he is, he's too strong (thank God he is cuz i don't wanna spend my life building a bunch of characters to clear the abyss when I can just use him)
Mualani with nerfs still becoming top dps: 🗿🗿🌊
The only problem is she doesn't have team
@@Tempest27exactly, the point she doesn’t have a team, and still being this strong shows that when she does get her team, she’ll be busted 💀
@@Tempest27Technically Neuvilette also doesn't need a team 🤔
@@xenoemblem7 neuv doesnt need one but has his best team, mualani needs a team but doesnt have one yet shes still top tier shes going to be busted later on
@@Tempest27Mualini has a fully functional team. What are you even talking about.
Sick, definitely gonna pull for more Neuvillette after watching this vid…..
This video was obviously made by someone who was disappointed about the Mualani nerf lmao
Same, I’m going for his C2 just because I love his charcater
Yes he is strong but the mistake was not fixing his spin2win "mechanic" from the get go, w/o that he would just be a good dps character and not the only character you need for 90% of the content.
I like to think that Nuevillette was not a mistake, his power is worthy of him being a dragon, I mean he is a freaking SOVEREIGN DRAGON.
11:36 what did he just sayyy?!!!!!!!!!
Yes, of course he is a mistake. They made the "perfect" DPS. Incredible AOE, strong single target, extremely safe because of range, self heal and HP pool, easy teambuilding, absolute braindead gameplay.
Characters should have strength and weaknesses. "But why not just play neuvillette instead?" will always be the question when talking Hydro DPS, and that's just bad design.
Would be an excellent argument if Genshin had pvp, or if other hydro dps couldn’t clear everything in the game the same as neuvi. It’s an unranked pve game lol.
@@Kota-sk8slnah, game balance is still important even in a pve game. Yeah you can complete abyss with weaker characters but abyss is always scaling up. Game devs think about everyone’s average account power and that includes everyone who owns the best hydro dps. Then they scale the abyss to match it. I remember when abyss was a joke in 1.x using just diluc. Now, bringing diluc is painful. It is power creep.
@@supermelonbread they don’t scale abyss up to match new dps, they just drop buffs for them lol. I can still do 30 sec chamber clears with diluc/ayato/yelan/etc and IT doesn’t even let you bring one character over and over like that.
@@Kota-sk8slvideo proof 30 sec clear please
yet he cant kill a hydro slime alone
As someone who really dislikes Neuvillette, specially story wise, I do hope he remains as the strongest character in the game for years to come. One of the best things about Genshin was how tame the powercreep was. Neuvillette threw this out of the window by not only being the strongest unit, but also not having a single downside while having one of the most braindead playstyles.
Powercreep is terrible for the long term viability of the game.
I hope they make new characters viable while creating new play styles and keep powercreep to a minimum.
He and Arlecchino absulutely ruined coop for me. Every other coop match I do always include a Nuivelette or an Arlechino. Normally I enjoy making different kinds of teams so, It gets boring after a while using the same teams over and over again you know..
Though I want to pull for Mualani solely because of Touyama Nao. However from the general perspective, it's rarely wrong to pull for hydro characters.
Not to mention that Mavuika could potentially propel Mualani's forward vape gameplay even further. So yeah, the potential for Mualani can be quite high.
while he remains a strong character, the arrival of Mualani introduces new dynamics that could challenge his standing in the game.
Not really because they are two different type of DPS.
Mualani should be compared to people like Navia, Hu Tao, Arlecchino as they are all nuke DPS types with high damage scaling
Neuvilllette doesn’t focus on high numbers but consistent attacks with a bit of self support built in.
They need to introduce a similar DPS style to Neuvillette’s for it to be a more relevant comparison
Nah
@@user-sm5vo7ob9x Nahida and Raiden are already button mash and brainless team to play. Even better than Neuvillete that he can't tackle Hydro enemies. The archons can still be functional when the enemies are immune to their own elements except solo.
Considering we've gotten used to talks of how no support can beat Bennett, no pyro can beat Xiangling, etc... not only is it always possible (though way more subtle in genshin than in HSR for example) it will for sure happen at some point. Not everyone wants to use the characters just because of meta, which is why there's so much variety. I don't see a problem comparing dps units to each other even outside of their usual niche because... that also happened with Neuvillette. Technically even his dmg is "limited" in how you get his best self buffs. The problem more so comes from how they are compared. It's like raw dmg vs reaction dmg vs something like bloom dmg. I also don't think that the devs should limit characters based on old ones. Whales already can hit the dmg ceiling with wild builds; what's the harm in releasing stronger characters over time to allow players to use more variety, even if it buffs an already strong "broken" character? People say they will never make a better Bennett or Xiangling but... they also used to say that about Xingqiu... I'm personally not using any of those three but would gladly take replacements if I like the characters enough
I actually think that they likely nerfed Neuvillette because Sigewinne's burst movement seems like it used to be the same as his charged attack, and they didn't want her to have it so they retroactively changed it for him too. Technically they'd also have to remove the movement for Nahida if we are being picky. Timing was bad and could be somewhat related, but Sigewinne's movement is what makes me think it's that
Also, realistically I'm glad Neuvillette is "broken" because... there's a consistent disparity for some power levels in game for characters. People expected the archons to be super strong. People now expect harbingers to be strong (since we now know the smaller the number, the more power + the top 3 can rival gods... we canonically can't defeat Arlecchino as we are, etc). Dragon sovereign was something people probably didn't expect as a character category but making them the strongest in some capacity as exceptions should be fine because... it is lowkey expected and if anything gives them an excuse to come out with a ridiculously op kit just for fun. Acheron is probably the best example I can think of because her gameplay power matches her in game role as an emanator. And realistically she might not even be the strongest emanator we get because Nihility doesn't normally grant power. Imagine a future emanator (so not as easily power crept as the 1.0 type characters) that is actually granted power by their path (or the path they follow in lore but their playable path is different).
I mean in retrospective it's pretty easy to say yes, Neuvillette is overtuned and makes the game rather brainless to play. But it's too late to do anything about it now if they can't patch characters and now all future hydro dps chars are stuck in a weird situation in terms of how to balance them to have any sort of relevance.
As Neuvillete user I can say that skill and hold your attack button makes life easier... My hands are happy...
yall this is the acheron situation all over again 😭
But she gets no flack because she’s a strong empowered female character just like Arlecchino
Ah…I see what you did there
It is not, even as powerful as she is acheron has weakneses and need a team, neuvilete can solo abyss easy. Like people still plays kafka today because she and acheron are diferent.
as a person who mains neuvilette, i pulled for mualani because her damage output is amazing, shes AMAZING for epxloration, and not to mention SUEPR fun to use
I Consider Neuvillette & Arlecchino the exception in this game and consider both equal...
they only vary based on player preference that's all
hes useable, fun to use and powerful: "did hoyo make a mistake?" lmao no the real mistake was deciding hoyo will never buff old characters to be more useable, such as venti.
in the near future their will be a video titled: Why no one plays Mualani?
I think she’ll be similar to Lyney, where she can do impressive numbers and has some potential, but because she’s clunky to play, nobody cares and only a few people can get the max out of her
similar video about any hydro dps after neuvilete and that is the problem lol
Clunky to play? Dude are you okay?@3.16music
@@sunnypa7101 yes I am. Yes she is clunky to play and I’m not the only one who thinks that, if you don’t think she’s clunky I’m happy for you, for me she is
I highly doubt it. She’s hydro. Has high numbers. Has good interruption resistance for a c0 character. I mean, she doesn’t even have a proper team yet and look how well she’s doing.
Not really. He’s a good “get this guy if you wanna win” character, I think some games need that kind of option for the casual audience to experience the full game.
It’s like Mimic Tear in Elden Ring, do you need it to complete the content? No, but it’ll definitely help those who do need it!
i think even tho there's gonna be 2 giant paint bubbles in abyss one haft gonna need another element than hydro :)
Is Zhong Li too strong ? Yes because gameplay should match lore. Is Nuvelette strong ? Yes Is it a mistake ? Never. Will Capitano be strong ? He better be !!
The only mistake is from players that think Neuvillette should be the norm, when he should just be the exception.
We should be calling those players a mistake, not the character itself.
Neuvillette will always be the apex of Hydro in Genshin.
He's the embodiment of hydro in the game,a random guide from a fire nation with a vision over powers him is just ridiculous, i like the game and its lore, and really hate it when they don't follow the lore of the characters
The only mistake with Neuv, is giving him BOTH insane range and QoL.
If he wasn't able to move while shooting/charging, didn't have insane self healing, or limit his range/number of targets he can hit, he wouldn't be so omnipresent.
Just remove one or two of these things, and he would still be OP, but not spammable in every situation without hydro immunity.
But, who really cares at the end of the day? I didn't pull him, but other people enjoy him.
I feel like this is kind of misleading because if you look at most theary crafters they all say that it was a 40% nerf not a 15% one. I know it's kind of rude to say this but something must have been really wrong with those numbers.
It was a 40% nerf in short rotations but overall a 30-28% nerf.
@@AlwaysThirstys her most common teams back then were short rotations but even the 30% is way off from the 15%.
I already disagree. Nuevillette represents the "long-stretch" home. He IS the sovereign that the principles used to create the hydro throne for archons.
I always think other DPS like a sword/spear/other meele weapon, while Neuvi is a gun. Other DPS need stricter mastery from the wielder to pop off but give a gun to normal people and they already can kill a person with a single click.
Are people really saying characters are bad because neuv is better? I’ve honestly never heard this
Literally hydro element had: nuke dps, aoe dps, mop killer, off-field dps, damage buff, burst heal, off-field heal, and some overworld exploration kits.
I REALLY like that the new characters we've seen so far pivoted to overworld mobility. I dont like fighting with Wanderer a ton, but he's always first in my party these days due to his floating Skill. I think its a really smart way to make new characters worth getting (as long as they are balanced as still decent fighters and still fun to fight with of course)
He wasn't a mistake. But I definitely think Bennett was. 😂
Xbalanque will fix Bennett by surpassing him
I had no intention of pulling for Mualani, was saving for Raiden, did the trial and man she's fun to play. I'd rather play characters that aren't Neuvillette strong but are fun to play, i'm not interested in aiming for biggest numbers of damage, any character can work if you want them to so just play who and how i find fun
Hoyoverse should release broken support instead of another hydro dps. Why is there so many hydro dps anyway?
Neuvillette feels like Acheron where he broke the bar instead of raising it
I think the mistake of Mualani was to compete directly with Nevillete in various aspect:
-Being catalyst
-Scale in Hp
-Being mainly a dps.
If she was other weapon then she would make good use of those who sucks because of their low attack.
Or if she had dual scaling of hp and attack, then she could have more variety of supports, directly making her teams more diverse
I might add that there are no claymore hydro users and just 1 lancer hydro 4 star. And she could have just used her surf board as a weapon, just saying...
She doesn’t directly compete with him because she’s a nuke DPS like Arlecchino and Hu Tao
9:36 LYNEY MENTIONED
Honestly I'm very excited to move on from using neuvillette to mualani
Neuvillette is great, but he's so braindead easy to play that he's gotten VERY boring to use
In a year, Mualani’s surfing will also be quite boring I feel. Especially with her lackluster animations
@@user-sm5vo7ob9x I disagree - first of all, I generally just don't agree with her having 'lackluster animations' (whatever that means) but neuvillette is literally just pressing Skill or Burst and then holding the attack button
Maybe she will get boring, but she's more engaging that mr. left click to win
@@adar9236 Her burst animation is a literal bite from her shark with some comic text pop up, even Barbara has a more interesting animation than that.
And her kit is basically spamming normal attack and moving around like what already most of the Genshin cast does
@@user-sm5vo7ob9x 'spamming normal attack and moving around' is infinitely more than 'press one button'
And you're just straight up wrong about the animation, you can say the same typa shit about EVERY burst
"Raiden just swings a sword"
"Neuvillette just stands there"
"Tighnari just shoots an arrow"
I love how mulani is literally the fastest character in the game, but only in natlan
No, Neuvillette is the best winner for the Hydro DPS. He will never be a mistake. Never.
Yep, they did. And I believe they will introduce more ways to close the gap. Neuvilette have one issue I've been deling with from the beginning of the game: he uses charged attacks, same as Ganyu and Liney. This kind of damage is poorly compartible with the most broken supports and buffs, and this is intentional.
Neuvi is literally the most powerful being from playable cast so far. He's not a mistake. If Mualani would be stronger, you would made video titled "Was Mualani a mistake?" claiming that a Hydro Dragon is weaker than some surfer girl which is wrong.
PS: Or, you would create a video about powercreep. You just want to pump out whatever only to get another video in your account. Like a flag in a wind. Genshin is extremely easy. You don't need Neuvi to do everything. You can easily 36* abyss without him, you can do Imaginary Theater without him, you can beat every enemy in the game without him. There is absolutely no need to make every new character stronger, and it's a good thing.
I don’t understand why people still care about personal damage this is genshin not Elden souls or whatever that actually damage check game requiring real skills 🤷🏻♂️
Neuvillette is the hydro dragon who regained his authority to be strong enough to judge every archon, so it makes sence he IS the strongest.
?? this doesn’t make any sense at all
@@fatamy3425 No it makes perfect sense you just didn't read the story. Lore wise, Neuvillette is currently the single most powerful person on all of Teyvat who isn't a Khaen'rian or Celestian, being on par with/more powerful than any of the remaining Archons baring perhaps the Tsaritsa. It makes perfect sense for him to be an overpowered character. It makes more sense than someone like Bennet or Xingqiu being two of the best supports in the game's history when lore wise they are basically NPCs with unique color schemes.
Venti is one of the original archons yet he was powercrept by a twink with a sword.
Zhongli has one of the highest kill count in the archon war and his gameplay is a shield bot.
Ninguang (rip spelling) is one of the most powerful people her nation. Why is she so weak?
@@The-hamster2471 Venti wasn't powercrept by kazuha, he was nerfed to hell by the devs by buffing the enemies weight in game,if they hadn't buffed their weight, they would never sell another utility based character
@@Aleph3575 it still doesn’t make sense because it doesn’t matter. when has lore strength ever mattered to character strength. furina is a normal human yet is arguably the strongest character in the game. hu tao is also a normal human yet dominated the meta for years. lore strength does not and has never mattered to unit strength
Mualani is pretty freaking broken too she’s not talked about enough
Yeah. People are like “SHE NEEDS FORWARD VAPE” like bruh no she doesn’t she’ll hit like a truck with just VV shred alone
People said Neuvilette was unplayable after has nerfs too lol
He was in fact clunky to play
Should've been left that way
Strength is never a mistake, it is an option. People need to learn this. No one forces you to field and trivialize a game, but when it's better to have and not want than need and not have, guess where I'd rather be.
version 5.0 is in fact, not finally here
This video is honestly such a negative thing to post before 5.0
the fact they tried to nerf him before natlan to sell new units is kinda telling that yeah they fked up and are stuck with either accepting all dps from now on will have to be on his base level, or lose money because lot of casual will be like " yep dont need another unit for the foreseeable future
Just add a hydro abyss herald on both sides lol
@@crem44 tbh idc anymore i pull less and less char, i mean they powercreep the unit while reverse powercreep the content,
we still never topped the 3.7 abyss
and the new imaginarium thingy is just easy and boring
dunno why people are so hyped about "meta" without content to use said meta, but to each their own
@@ganyumaindayone1112 3.7 was a skill check- less hp per chamber with no elemental check
4.7 was an investment check -WAYY too much hp in each chamber with pryo heralds
@@AlwaysThirstys i could sub 2 min the 1st floor of 4.7 without any problem, just get some aoe or a nahida first part, some hydro 2nd part and it was easy
1:15 emilia who? 😂
Cmon dude Emilie actually decent tho
@@Krin_0 i meant who as who is "Emilia" cause there's no playable character named "Emilia" as they pronounced it as such. Not sure if they're just mispronouncing "Emilie" on purpose at this point cause this is the 2nd video of vars they called "Emilie" "Emilia"
I have Mualani and Neuvilette, and I do not feel like they're redundant whatsoever. I use both very often. not only because Theatre Imaginarium now incentivizes horizontal investment, but I sometimes use them on either side of Abyss because they want different supports (Furina/Jean/Zhongli vs Kazuha/Kokomi/Xiangling) and Hydro is such a busted element.
similarly, I have 2 Pyro DPS in the form of C3 R1 Yoimiya (waifu pick) and Arlecchino (meta pick). and even though I have Navia with her signature, I still use Itto sometimes bc he fills a different role as a more on-field DPS who scales with Def.
for a while, my goal was to get a solid DPS of every element. and pretty much as soon as I accomplished this, TI released and gave me a reason to keep pulling. they really know how to get you to pull lmao