the price for the real clone troopers produced by hasbro is ridiculous honestly im glad there are bootlegs like this its just unfortunate that collectors like me with little money have to buy knockoffs because the real companies wont produce any more of the real ones
These do end up being the economic way to army build these days! As long as you can buy them direct for a fair price, instead of the folks who try to pass these off as "official Hasbro" figures, I don't see a problem with it!
@@Halo-motion the joints aren't that bad, just be very careful when moving the joints. (I don't recommend moving the foot joints) but other than that you can pose em, army build em, and display them pretty well
Considering how rare the original versions of these particular clones are, I can see why they would be a popular candidate for the bootleg market. Heck, I'd love to see some rare Clone Wars molds get the bootleg treatment; especially the ARC Trooper mold! 😀
Summary: Kamino (hasbro) clones vs spaarti (knockoff) clones. Kamino clones are expensive and takes 10 years to grow, but are excellent fighters. Spaarti clones can be grown in a year or less, meaning they can be mass produced, but are inferior to their kamino counterparts in combat (figure quality). Hasbro clones these days are not that common and expensive, while the knockoffs are far more accessible and cheaper. Note: I have ordered some of these and I'm satisfied with them. For collectors out there who want the legit stuff, don't buy these. For people like me who want to increase their numbers, this might be the figures you're looking for.
Honestly for $30 for 5 troopers, even decent official knock offs, I'll troop build them.. also yes they did make shock troopers, 501st, utapau, shadow, etc.. probably a couple sellers on ebay have them now. I'll troop build with a few of these.
Just ordered 5x Utapau Clone Troopers for £24/$30 whilst i would prefer to buy hasbro made figures its just not possible. Clones are ridiculously expensive in UK. At under £5 for a figure its a great deal especially as there is a great selection of rare clones making it perfect for army building something that is just not financially viable today especially as VC figures cost £13.99 plus postage because retail stock nothing. All i can hope is that the figures don't fall apart if so i will definitely order more!
hi, i am a chinese collector. i heard something about these bootlegs,it seems we may have bootlegs for most colour varations of phase 2 clone armor in this 2005 sculpt,maybe including cover ops trooper ,comic pack 212th trooper......
That is really cool! I have never seen any other versions besides these in the U. S., but I would love to see more! Finding bootlegs here is very difficult, usually I just look on eBay or Aliexpress, but options are limited.
@@RustbeltCollectorin fact,i have only seen 2 webstore selling these 4 trooper in chinese mainland webstores,and one store in taobao.com delete these items without making any deal after a period of time.the other seller has sold nearly 80 troopers in these days,he sells 4 troopers for about 16.5 dollar.it's strange that there are not many webstore selling these trooper in chinese mainland webstores. i was about to buy these 4 trooper in the second seller,but after saw your video,i decide to wait since these 4 have some problems,in fact i got a message that bootlegs for most colour varations of phase 2 clone armor in this 2005 sculpt in last year,then nothing happened until these 4 trooper appear,so i don't know when other varations come out. in addition,there are some ko/bootleg 3.75 appeared in about 2008-2010，including evolution pack v-wing pilot、arc trooper、 Fi Skirata: (Omega Squad)and bf2 pack clone engineer，v-wing pilot、arc trooper nearly disappeared now，Fi Skirata: (Omega Squad) is rare，but bf2 pack clone engineer seems still available。i heard these bootlegs have loose joints but i can‘t confirm since i didn’t bought one。then in 2013-2015，some ko/bootleg 3.75 appeared，including phase1 clone pilot in likely 30th sculpt（not black series 3.75 sculpt ）and first order storm trooper、first order execution storm trooper。also，3.75 tlc dewbeck got ko/bootleg，i heard these dewbacks may smell unpleasant。 that’s all information i collect in last 10years ，hope it can help you。
@@combinezhang4219 Thank you very much for all of that detailed information! I have never seen many of the figures you mentioned, hopefully someday I can add them to my collection! The ARC trooper and BFII trooper sound really cool! The Clone Pilot is one that I see often! I have also seen a version of the pilot that they scaled up to make it a 7" action figure! I think my favorite bootleg that I own is the scaled up Commander Cody that has a red light in his chest!
@@RustbeltCollectori heard that ko/bootleg evolution pack arc trooper has no or simpler kama dress‘s back detail，other parts seems like original one，BFII pack clone engineer is not rare in chinese collectors‘ second hand market，but i can’t tell its difference from the real one
@@combinezhang4219 Interesting! Do you know of any online archives that have photographs of these bootlegs? Some KO/Bootlegs use all the original molds that Hasbro does so they even have the same markings! That makes it very hard to tell the difference.
@@RustbeltCollector bootleg verison of 41st and shock showed in one Chinese webstore yesterday，same weapon（antenna + dc15s + dc15a）,same problem(detail missing on left knee armor,judging from a photo in the webstore)
Oh nice an update on this mystery. I ordered a 5th fleet security clone and that will be my first clone action figure. I didn’t order it from China and it comes with the original stand for the figure.
Rustbelt Collector the bootleg clones are direct ripoffs of the legitimate thing. I’d also seen these on eBay, I’d also seen the tunghouri figure for sale as well I checked and it is the seller so I do have the chance of purchasing a legit 91st.
zach duperron I think anyone selling these figures other than Tunghori is selling the knockoff. He does still have his listed, so I’d buy a couple from him if you want the figure! A good way to spot the bootleg is the markings on the chest: like I pointed out in the video, the Tungori(Hasbro) one has a bit of “battle damaged” on the chest marking, the China bootleg does not have the damage.
This is different than the Target Exclusive. It does have the same paint apps, but the mold is the antennae mold, while the Target exclusive was a different mold. I made a more in-depth look at that particular figure on my channel. Also, Jcc2224 has a video on the same figure. We both bought it off of eBay from the same seller and it is confirmed to be different (slightly) from the Target version :) If you want, send a pic via instagram and I can double check.
True, they aren't made anymore. But the originals can still be found pretty readily on eBay for only a few dollars more. I prefer hasbro over these based on the quality as well. These have a lot of issues and do not match a hasbro-made figure.
Brilliant review mate. I picked up on the issues from the product ref pics, but this confirms is. For the value though on allie express, great alternative army builder or for customs.
That is understandable, I don't ever promote buying bootleg figures over the real thing, just because if bootlegs ever hit the market big collectors may get ripped off. But I do understand the dilemma when some Star Wars clones are extremely expensive!
@@RustbeltCollector well if I'm honest with you I dont mind bootlegs/knockoffs some are super good and I have a few in my collection and I know a lot of people who also buy bootlegs, for hasbro figures I have my own little rule where I only buy the real deal figure when it comes to the 6 inch not the 3.74, but for sh figuarts, bandai ect ect. I only buy the knockoffs
@@evildrporkchop4628 That's fair enough! Some don't mind the bootlegs. I have used some KO SHF for customs, but I mainly collect bootlegs that are weird and more goofy just for the novelty lol!
@@evildrporkchop4628 Awesome! I have seen a whole line of "avengers" characters with that same light-up chest! lol Maybe someday I will do a video on them!
I recently ordered a pack of 10 storm troopers that are KOs. I honestly don't mind. They are decent enough for canon fodder especially for my planned diorama of them attacking a xeno hive (hiya figures).
Hey Rustbelt collector I just ordered a clone wars Commander Cody phase 2 from tunghori on Ebay. He seems to have multiple in stock. do you think that they are over stock or knock offs? Please let me know what you think
I ordered from him multiple times. Currently, due to the pandemic, I ordered the Black Series 3.75 Rex back in April, and it arrived last week. All his figures are most likely factory overruns, or rejects. Don’t expect a perfect figure though. I bought a battle droid once from him, missing eye applications. Other than that, his figures are good most of the time.
Hey bro i think dont quote me but i have some of these and looking at them i think they used 2 different molds to make them the quick draw and the super articulated. I do customes and i had some quick draw clones there head flairs on a super articulated the ball joint is not the same as to the shoulders are different wideer to allow for the fiture. And the abdomen is wired also you have a seperation from cod piece to back piece. Just what i have found looking them over. Great video love the Chanel!!!
So is there a market for knock-off relatively Clone and Stormtroopers? I see lots of 5 3.75" Stormtroopers with some pretty mediocre paintwork on eBay and if their joints are gonna hold their integrity, then I'd be perfectly willing to pick some up.
Hi! I ordered ten 501 legion troopers from Aliexpress. I need them for the star wars stop motion series I'm working on. I know they are bootleg, but, are they that bad? Do you think these clones are a good option to use them for the scenes? I'm scared about the plastic quality you mentioned. Very good video by the way😁
I’d say they will hold up the almost as good as hasbro. Just be gentle with the joints, I’m not sure if they will be as strong. Long term, who knows if they will stay good or not though.
@@RustbeltCollector Thank you! I recently ordered some knock off 212th, 501st, Shadow Utapaus, and a ton of others for the sake of building a super diverse army. I’m just making sure the shipping isn’t going to take 2 months like it’s estimated
@@cloneuniverse897 it shouldn’t, but I think they just say 2 months to give themselves room for it to take that long. International shipping is a mess these days, so it’s understandable
They are not good quality, but I would not call them bad quality either. They are better than other bootlegs featured on this channel, but ultimately can't compare to the official Hasbro versions.
Really wish I could get some clothes just got into concocting and all the claims her at least $20 on eBay only way I can get lenses that fleamarket there’s one person that sells them for like five bucks if they have any Star Wars figures.
@@RustbeltCollector I agree, to be honest, im kinda happy becouse im able to buy some figures cheap.I know that i can find Hasbro figures for 15$ but where i live, i would need to pay 80-100$ for shipping thats why i ordered one 501st Clone trooper. If the quality is good then ill order more
Hey there, I always appreciate and consider critique on my videos. deciding what to talk about in videos and how to edit them has been a constant shifting thing for me here on the channel. However, I will suggest that if it bothers you that much you simply click off the video or scrub through the video to any relevant parts that meet your area of interest. Apart from that, thanks for watching!
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the price for the real clone troopers produced by hasbro is ridiculous honestly im glad there are bootlegs like this its just unfortunate that collectors like me with little money have to buy knockoffs because the real companies wont produce any more of the real ones
These do end up being the economic way to army build these days! As long as you can buy them direct for a fair price, instead of the folks who try to pass these off as "official Hasbro" figures, I don't see a problem with it!
@@RustbeltCollector Hey are their arm joints strong? Because I want to buy them
@@Halo-motion the joints aren't that bad, just be very careful when moving the joints. (I don't recommend moving the foot joints) but other than that you can pose em, army build em, and display them pretty well
Honestly if a third party company can make more 3.75 figs with full articulation then hasbro can.
When you said AliExpress I was like awe hell here come the real bootleg figures
JUST_ Hernandez Haha AliExpress delivers only the finest quality bootlegs! XD
Considering how rare the original versions of these particular clones are, I can see why they would be a popular candidate for the bootleg market. Heck, I'd love to see some rare Clone Wars molds get the bootleg treatment; especially the ARC Trooper mold! 😀
Summary: Kamino (hasbro) clones vs spaarti (knockoff) clones. Kamino clones are expensive and takes 10 years to grow, but are excellent fighters. Spaarti clones can be grown in a year or less, meaning they can be mass produced, but are inferior to their kamino counterparts in combat (figure quality). Hasbro clones these days are not that common and expensive, while the knockoffs are far more accessible and cheaper. Note: I have ordered some of these and I'm satisfied with them. For collectors out there who want the legit stuff, don't buy these. For people like me who want to increase their numbers, this might be the figures you're looking for.
Honestly for $30 for 5 troopers, even decent official knock offs, I'll troop build them.. also yes they did make shock troopers, 501st, utapau, shadow, etc.. probably a couple sellers on ebay have them now. I'll troop build with a few of these.
Just ordered 5x Utapau Clone Troopers for £24/$30 whilst i would prefer to buy hasbro made figures its just not possible. Clones are ridiculously expensive in UK. At under £5 for a figure its a great deal especially as there is a great selection of rare clones making it perfect for army building something that is just not financially viable today especially as VC figures cost £13.99 plus postage because retail stock nothing. All i can hope is that the figures don't fall apart if so i will definitely order more!
Its true. Hasbro made clones can sometimes go up to 100 dollars here in the us. Which makes these bootlegs fairgame
hi, i am a chinese collector. i heard something about these bootlegs,it seems we may have bootlegs for most colour varations of phase 2 clone armor in this 2005 sculpt,maybe including cover ops trooper ,comic pack 212th trooper......
That is really cool! I have never seen any other versions besides these in the U. S., but I would love to see more! Finding bootlegs here is very difficult, usually I just look on eBay or Aliexpress, but options are limited.
@@RustbeltCollectorin fact,i have only seen 2 webstore selling these 4 trooper in chinese mainland webstores,and one store in taobao.com delete these items without making any deal after a period of time.the other seller has sold nearly 80 troopers in these days,he sells 4 troopers for about 16.5 dollar.it's strange that there are not many webstore selling these trooper in chinese mainland webstores.
i was about to buy these 4 trooper in the second seller,but after saw your video,i decide to wait since these 4 have some problems,in fact i got a message that bootlegs for most colour varations of phase 2 clone armor in this 2005 sculpt in last year,then nothing happened until these 4 trooper appear,so i don't know when other varations come out.
in addition,there are some ko/bootleg 3.75 appeared in about 2008-2010，including evolution pack v-wing pilot、arc trooper、 Fi Skirata: (Omega Squad)and bf2 pack clone engineer，v-wing pilot、arc trooper nearly disappeared now，Fi Skirata: (Omega Squad) is rare，but bf2 pack clone engineer seems still available。i heard these bootlegs have loose joints but i can‘t confirm since i didn’t bought one。then in 2013-2015，some ko/bootleg 3.75 appeared，including phase1 clone pilot in likely 30th sculpt（not black series 3.75 sculpt ）and first order storm trooper、first order execution storm trooper。also，3.75 tlc dewbeck got ko/bootleg，i heard these dewbacks
may smell unpleasant。
that’s all information i collect in last 10years ，hope it can help you。
@@combinezhang4219 Thank you very much for all of that detailed information! I have never seen many of the figures you mentioned, hopefully someday I can add them to my collection! The ARC trooper and BFII trooper sound really cool!
The Clone Pilot is one that I see often! I have also seen a version of the pilot that they scaled up to make it a 7" action figure! I think my favorite bootleg that I own is the scaled up Commander Cody that has a red light in his chest!
@@RustbeltCollectori heard that ko/bootleg evolution pack arc trooper has no or simpler kama dress‘s back detail，other parts seems like original one，BFII pack clone engineer is not rare in chinese collectors‘ second hand market，but i can’t tell its difference from the real one
@@combinezhang4219 Interesting! Do you know of any online archives that have photographs of these bootlegs?
Some KO/Bootlegs use all the original molds that Hasbro does so they even have the same markings! That makes it very hard to tell the difference.
Interesting these knockoffs are coming out years later.
I agree! It is strange that they decide to make these 15 years after they first came out. But, clones are clones and people still love them!
There’s hardly any supply and lots of demand so it’s evident that there is a reason they still make these.
zach duperron yea wish they made the other legions tbh
@@galeanorodriguez9668 Since these seem to be "new" to the bootleg market, more legions may be released down the line!
@@RustbeltCollector bootleg verison of 41st and shock showed in one Chinese webstore yesterday，same weapon（antenna + dc15s + dc15a）,same problem(detail missing on left knee armor,judging from a photo in the webstore)
Oh nice an update on this mystery. I ordered a 5th fleet security clone and that will be my first clone action figure. I didn’t order it from China and it comes with the original stand for the figure.
zach duperron nice!! It’s a great figure, one of my favorites!!!!
Rustbelt Collector the bootleg clones are direct ripoffs of the legitimate thing. I’d also seen these on eBay, I’d also seen the tunghouri figure for sale as well I checked and it is the seller so I do have the chance of purchasing a legit 91st.
zach duperron I think anyone selling these figures other than Tunghori is selling the knockoff. He does still have his listed, so I’d buy a couple from him if you want the figure!
A good way to spot the bootleg is the markings on the chest: like I pointed out in the video, the Tungori(Hasbro) one has a bit of “battle damaged” on the chest marking, the China bootleg does not have the damage.
Rustbelt Collector I got 5th fleet security clone today. I made a video on it!
@@RustbeltCollector I just ordered a lot of security troopers. Im now scared they are fake.
It’s a target exclusive clone trooper. It come on a star card. I just picked some up from a Facebook post. I can send a pic if you’d like.
This is different than the Target Exclusive. It does have the same paint apps, but the mold is the antennae mold, while the Target exclusive was a different mold. I made a more in-depth look at that particular figure on my channel. Also, Jcc2224 has a video on the same figure. We both bought it off of eBay from the same seller and it is confirmed to be different (slightly) from the Target version :)
If you want, send a pic via instagram and I can double check.
They have evolved, they are doing 187th, 212th 442nd 41st grey and shock troopers
Be on the look out for a review on those too! I picked up one of each to compare and just warn collectors, since many would not like to buy bootlegs.
Rustbelt Collector nice, i cant wait
They made 501st troopers like a week ago
shadow trooper begin to pre-order，seems to appear in august
since id say this is the best clone trooper sculpt and Hasbro doesn't make it anymore, these are fairgame
True, they aren't made anymore. But the originals can still be found pretty readily on eBay for only a few dollars more. I prefer hasbro over these based on the quality as well. These have a lot of issues and do not match a hasbro-made figure.
These are great for troop building. I buy boot leg clone and storm troopers all the time from china.
Are they good quality
THEY MADE 501ST TROOPERS
Lol... it's a clone of a clone
haha pretty much!
Brilliant review mate. I picked up on the issues from the product ref pics, but this confirms is. For the value though on allie express, great alternative army builder or for customs.
Totally agree! they have potential, but still are just knockoffs
I orderd the mythosaur company trooper today, they look quite nice and the real one is pretty expensive so for 8 bucks a pop give me all of em.
That is understandable, I don't ever promote buying bootleg figures over the real thing, just because if bootlegs ever hit the market big collectors may get ripped off. But I do understand the dilemma when some Star Wars clones are extremely expensive!
@@RustbeltCollector well if I'm honest with you I dont mind bootlegs/knockoffs some are super good and I have a few in my collection and I know a lot of people who also buy bootlegs, for hasbro figures I have my own little rule where I only buy the real deal figure when it comes to the 6 inch not the 3.74, but for sh figuarts, bandai ect ect. I only buy the knockoffs
@@evildrporkchop4628 That's fair enough! Some don't mind the bootlegs. I have used some KO SHF for customs, but I mainly collect bootlegs that are weird and more goofy just for the novelty lol!
@@RustbeltCollector yeah like I got myself this thanos with a light in his chest its pretty bad but its hilarious XD.
@@evildrporkchop4628 Awesome! I have seen a whole line of "avengers" characters with that same light-up chest! lol Maybe someday I will do a video on them!
To make a a big clone army, these would really help. But the problem is when people sales you like "oficial"
Exactly! That’s my biggest issue with it. It’s fine for army building, but awful if the sellers aren’t honest.
The knock offs get looser the more you move them for like stop motions.
I recently ordered a pack of 10 storm troopers that are KOs. I honestly don't mind. They are decent enough for canon fodder especially for my planned diorama of them attacking a xeno hive (hiya figures).
OMG I want some of these so bad, but I’m afraid Ali express will steal my credit card information…
Idk if u bought any recently but did they fix the movement? Thinking about starting a stop motion channel and wondering if these would be good
From what I have heard, the quality has actually dropped. So it may be better to go with official figures for that!
Hey Rustbelt collector I just ordered a clone wars Commander Cody phase 2 from tunghori on Ebay. He seems to have multiple in stock. do you think that they are over stock or knock offs? Please let me know what you think
I think he sells overstock and that they are legit Hasbro figures. Just my opinion though :)
I ordered from him multiple times. Currently, due to the pandemic, I ordered the Black Series 3.75 Rex back in April, and it arrived last week. All his figures are most likely factory overruns, or rejects. Don’t expect a perfect figure though. I bought a battle droid once from him, missing eye applications. Other than that, his figures are good most of the time.
@@enderland18 Yeah I think the number one reason to buy from him is because his figure pricing is decent.
Did those figures come with proper boxes? It is good to build army using those knock-off ones..
What was the name of that seller you mention tungory or something? How do I find him
Hey bro i think dont quote me but i have some of these and looking at them i think they used 2 different molds to make them the quick draw and the super articulated. I do customes and i had some quick draw clones there head flairs on a super articulated the ball joint is not the same as to the shoulders are different wideer to allow for the fiture. And the abdomen is wired also you have a seperation from cod piece to back piece. Just what i have found looking them over. Great video love the Chanel!!!
So is there a market for knock-off relatively Clone and Stormtroopers? I see lots of 5 3.75" Stormtroopers with some pretty mediocre paintwork on eBay and if their joints are gonna hold their integrity, then I'd be perfectly willing to pick some up.
The mando clone original doesn’t have the mud horn on the shoulder I have the original and I can confirm
That's good to know! Thanks for the info, I didn't have an official one to go off of, so I couldn't say for certain
Dang this is good and bad bc now ppl can buy an affordable clone but it sucks or waste alot more money but have a very durable clone
Hi! I ordered ten 501 legion troopers from Aliexpress. I need them for the star wars stop motion series I'm working on. I know they are bootleg, but, are they that bad? Do you think these clones are a good option to use them for the scenes? I'm scared about the plastic quality you mentioned. Very good video by the way😁
I’d say they will hold up the almost as good as hasbro. Just be gentle with the joints, I’m not sure if they will be as strong. Long term, who knows if they will stay good or not though.
Amazing vid. God bless 🙏❤️
How long did the shipping take on the knock offs?
Quite a while, I think something like 2-3 weeks?
@@RustbeltCollector Thank you! I recently ordered some knock off 212th, 501st, Shadow Utapaus, and a ton of others for the sake of building a super diverse army. I’m just making sure the shipping isn’t going to take 2 months like it’s estimated
@@cloneuniverse897 it shouldn’t, but I think they just say 2 months to give themselves room for it to take that long. International shipping is a mess these days, so it’s understandable
Also you are correct I sell them 10 for $30 and I’m making a killing on eBay !
You still sell them 10x for $30 ?
Great vid
Thanks!
They look so cool
@@jonathanlongmore9463 They do look cool! But I think the Hasbro versions are far, far better!
Normally I’m not a huge Star Wars fan but these want to make me watch the new film
@@jonathanlongmore9463 You won't see these guys in that movie. But if you watch Revenge of the Sith you will see plenty of clones!
So these are basically good quality?
They are not good quality, but I would not call them bad quality either. They are better than other bootlegs featured on this channel, but ultimately can't compare to the official Hasbro versions.
Really wish I could get some clothes just got into concocting and all the claims her at least $20 on eBay only way I can get lenses that fleamarket there’s one person that sells them for like five bucks if they have any Star Wars figures.
Did they cost 30$ for the lot?
They aren’t original molds the Knock off factories make their own
I got 15 501sts for 50 dollars hands fall off but they are very good
Do y’all know who the seller is ?
they use same mold thats why they are so simmilar
100%! Somebody somewhere found the old antennae clone mold molds and put them to good use! I sort of wish they would make more variations of them tho!
@@RustbeltCollector I agree, to be honest, im kinda happy becouse im able to buy some figures cheap.I know that i can find Hasbro figures for 15$ but where i live, i would need to pay 80-100$ for shipping thats why i ordered one 501st Clone trooper. If the quality is good then ill order more
They’re fine tho
They don't look that bad
I have the mandalorian clone trooper
For troop building who cares I would buy them .
Dude, I'm not your mom. I don't crave to hear your voice rambling on. (Get to the point)
Hey there, I always appreciate and consider critique on my videos. deciding what to talk about in videos and how to edit them has been a constant shifting thing for me here on the channel. However, I will suggest that if it bothers you that much you simply click off the video or scrub through the video to any relevant parts that meet your area of interest. Apart from that, thanks for watching!