The fact that in the acting episode they let Blake play a violent abusive jock and then praised him for how well he could play that part really aged like milk.
@@guevara148 his ex-wife Melissa Benoist (aka Marley) came forward about how violently he had abused her, and the fake stories they had to come up with to explain her injuries if they ever came up in interviews.
Never forget when Emily during the Vulnerability episode shared that she was sexually abused and they throw her out on that very same episode because she wasn't being vulnerable enough after walking around with a giant billboard that said USED.
You forgot to mention how Season 1 winners never really got the promised "7-episode-arc". They had an arc on the first episode they were in and were basically forgotten for the rest of the show. Sure, Sam did return as a "regular" character, but, again, he was basically furniture. Only Alex, who didn't actually win, got to be an actual character. Glee Project was essentially an unnecessarily complicated audition that already had a part in mind, but called a diverse group of actors anyway in order to make television out of their dreams, only to cast the actor that already fit the part they had in mind, only to treat them as a secondary-class character on the show afterwards.
THIS!!! Damian and Sam were ROBBED... Damian was written off with like one teeny storyline and Sam got blackholed and showed up whenever they needed an extra
Yes this is what i always say, especially in season 2. They already have Ryder's character in mind and it just basically the audition for it and people that have chance are Michael, Charlie and Blake, while Ryan trying to find inspiration to write another character with the other contestant. Bcs i will never forget how season 2 basically have the most diverse cast and the sole winner is the straight white men. How can ryan murphy and co went from writing Joe and Rory as furniture to full on Ryder involved in a love triangle with Marley and Jake. Ryder is always have storyline throughout season 4, not like Rory and Joe.
Well they wanted to cast Cameron. But he was to religious and adorable for that show. He quit, so they took Cameron’s character and gave it to the sexiest contestant Sam.
Joe's (Samuel) characteristic was being a Christian that doesn't wear shoes Rory's (Damian) characteristic was being Irish and a constant victim of xenophobia Ryder's (Blake) characteristic was... tall and basic?
Kayla said it right. Blake was Sam (the contestant) lite. And ironically Ryder was also Sam (the character) lite. When Finn passed away, Sam became the new Finn and Ryder became the new Sam.
I'm Irish and gay and I always found Roy way more offensive than Kurt. People like Kurt exist in real life. People like Roy haven't existed since the 50s.
the funniest part is that Ryan would turn to the writer of glee like 'how do you think it would be writing a character around them? would It be easy/doable?' and the writer is always like 'yeah I mean there's always something so it could work I guess' and Ryan is then like 'see....its just too hard to right a character around them' like...what lol
Excuse me that’s TONY AWARD WINNER ALI STROKER! Man it’s wild seeing so many actors who went on to better things. Alex Newell is also doing theatre now too and he was in the Tony award winning revival of Once on This Island and slaaaaayed it.
looking back, no way was a female ever had a chance to win given that the last thing Ryan Murphy wanted was another strong female voice to "compete" with Lea...
After they couldn’t make up their minds in season one and chose 2 winners and 2 runners up, the Oxygen producers told them they had to choose only one winner for season two. The contenders were told in the first episode that there would only be one winner (and yes, they were surprised/shocked). And while she wasn’t announced as the runner up, Ali DID get a small role on Glee as Artie’s wedding hookup at Will’s wedding in I Do.
Marrissa's Elimination was so frustrating. I get how it fed into the whole "Ryan can't write for people who appear too perfect" or something of that manner but why even get her on the show then. I hope she is doing well now!
My husband has an interesting theory about her elimination...the following week was "sexuality" week...and if they had eliminated Cameron that week (like they should have because he was a DIVA) they would have had an even number of "boys" and "girls"...meaning that Alex would have had to play opposite a female love interest. The show runners took this opportunity to shit on Samuel for not being super comfortable in his role as Alex's love interest but at no point put Alex in a position where they weren't in their comfort zone...at least love interest wise. Now granted, Alex was in the bottom three for that episode but that was also the episode where they performed in drag for the first time. Coincidence? I mean, maybe but it seems too perfect. I think, because Alex already had a character to build off of, the show runners knew where they could take that character and knew they wouldn't have to struggle to give Alex a place in the story...and clearly when Alex came back the following season as a New Direction member, that was proven. Now, I don't begrudge any success Alex has achieved, but the what ifs are deafening...
I know I watched all of The Glee Project but I have repressed all memories of it. Thanks for unlocking those nightmares. Ali was actually in Glee for like one episode. She was Artie’s “date” for a wedding.
I did not catch the first season of the Glee Project but I did somehow fell into watching the second season when it was on. There are a lot of things I completely forgot about until watching this video. But things that did stay with me? Nellie’s voice, that time Michael sang that Ben Folds Five abortion song in a sexy way, and when Blake won and mentioned his half-Cuban ancestry, like cmon Blake… you already won, they obviously don’t care about ~representation~
Nellie and Michael were the best of season 2. They way they were treated was bullshit. That basic white boy Blake winning was INSANE. His voice is basic and his looks are basic (a jock kind of character, we had that already).
i’ve been meaning to “educate” myself on the glee project, so i’m glad your vid popped up in my recommended! also love how you articulate ur points, very well spoken :)
I’ve heard that Murphy basically wrote the character for Cameron but since Cameron left the competition, he chose Sam to win instead since he shared he was religious and hot
I was never a huge fan of anyone on these shows but I so happy that Ali went on to bigger and bigger. I never felt anything for Nelly but Blake winning was the most rigged thing ever
I never watched Glee but inexplicably watched The Glee Project season 2? No idea why I clicked on it to this day but honestly yeah Nellie deserved a billion times better than what she got from them. I still love her song Lights, she was so great.
I can tell I've put Glee on mute in my memories because I completely forgot that they had a white man with locs on this show and since it was the early 2010's no one said a *thing*
Eh the whole discourse around certain hairstyles being cultural appropriation is pretty dishonest. At least with something like Native American headdresses, it's reducing something with cultural significance to a novelty accessory. Dreadlocks have existed for thousands of years among various cultures around the world so they're not for one group to gatekeep.
I just remember the outrage I felt about Emily being eliminated; Charlie taking Mario's cane and just nothing being done about it; and how people seemed to be kicked out when it should be their "week" - like Emily during vulnerability, Tyler during Sexuality, Mario in Adaptability... That didn't age well. And again (minus Alex and Aylin being in the grand finale) how the winners/runners up were all straight white people. Ryan said something once about "when I cast a disabled actor - I don't want their character to just be their disability - I want that to just be the 'last' thing you think of...Like Lauren (potter, aka becky Jackson)" (I am paraphrasing) Like... what? So, I'm kinda thankful that they didn't "exploit" any of the actors that I loved because I think Ryan would have ruined their stories... Like turning Sam into a Teen Jesus, non shoe wearing almost "joke" - when he wasn't the typical 'goody-goody' christian like Cameron was (I really think he was trying to mesh both "characters" together.
You know what’s funny, I’ve barely seen glee but watched every episode of the glee project. I remember so little of it and they never played reruns, so it feels like I made the shit up in my head
I was hella rooting for Aylin, and was so mad that she lost. But then again I was 10 when I watched, so you brought some good points why it would be a disaster if she ended up on Glee
Cameron should have won. Ryan was designing a character for him, the nerdy Christian. It defaulted down to Sam, whose look didn't really fit the character he was sent to play.
back in 2011 i didn’t even like Glee but i LOVED the Glee Project. my 14 year old self was down horrendous for Marissa & Sam. i guess all it took to entertain my teen self was hot contestants lmao
I remember in season 2 they were talking vulnerabilities and being bullied and bc Blake was a tall attractive cis white guy he'd obviously never been picked on so was crying about he saw some kid get beat up and did nothing like W H A T how are YOU crying about this
Small correction, before sharing the story of seeing someone get bullied and beat up, he did say that he himself used to be bullied for being "super skinny". The former story happened when he was in high school, the latter happened when he was in junior high (middle school)
I remember being so pissed that Michael got kicked out in the actability week when he WON IT and they kept Bl*ke who they'd been saying the whole time was such an amazzzing actor but he mostly "played" an asshole UGH
cameron mitchell will always be my baby but i too was confused by what he expected joining a teen drama…like yes you will have to kiss other people, you are an actor.
I was so into this show that I would tweet at the contestants every week (and mostly telling Alex he was rude af). I got a follow back from the show’s official Twitter account. My day was made.
It just weirds me out that Glee was between 2009-2015, basically I was in high school when they were but it feels a lot longer, maybe because like many “progressive shows” it’s aged much worse.
8:28 could have easily been one of those parody youtube music videos complaining or dissing something/someone omfg i love your videos kayla i'm so happy you uploaded early so i could watch this with my breakfast
Come on we all know why the Irish guy "won" in season 1. He sang a word in his first song in the bottom wrong. Instead of singing "I wish I had Jessie's Girl" he sang "I wish I was Jessie's Girl" and Ryan Murphy liked the implication of being gay and that was the spark that kept him in Ryan's mind. lol well maybe that's a conspiracy but I believe it. Sam was a plain scoop of vanilla ice cream. Sure it's popular but not what I came to Baskin Robbins for lol
honestly, if you watch back season 1 of the GP, you can see why they liked damien. irl, he's charming and sweet but also humble and fairly talented. but the problem with the writers is that they try and make characters from the actors themselves, so they mainly liked the fact that damien was irish, so they made his character's whole arc revolve around that fact. same with samuel larson, he mentioned religion being a big part of his life, so they made his character the religious kid.
@@alexeifiore8573 I’m pretty confident that they orginally wanted to give Joe Hart’s part to Cameron and that the character was more based around him, since Christianity was more his main thing, but since they couldn’t have him they gave the part to Sam instead
we gonna talk about bryce vine being the first to be eliminated on season 1 of tgp and he’s making hella good music now i love it i love it and i love him
I almost couldn’t finish the video because my skin was crawling looking back at the b-roll footage. Back when the show was airing everything was so fun and the character arcs were interesting. But this show ages a million times more poorly than the original Glee. Especially knowing how young some of these contestants are, it feels exploitative.
I agree with all of this overall except.... Damien was one of the better singers. He was. I'm sorry. Maybe it's because I love those crooner rat pack type voices which Damien pulls off amazing. I also did not get the feeling that Ryan liked him too much either. He gave up a successful singing career in Ireland for this shot and he was barely in the 7 episodes he won and was written to be a pervy stereotype who's only personality traits were horny, lonley and irish. He didn't get an arc. He didn't get a character. Sam got a character. Alex got a character. Even Lindsay who was only in for her two episodes get more of a character. Ultimately Ryan's just not a good writers. That's why he demanded his actors give him that hook.
I don't think it's fair to say that Ryan's not a good writer, when he tries, he turns out great shit. I think the success of Glee in particular went to his head and gave him a lazier approach to writing, which makes sense because it was the show that officially blew him over the roof and became a huge phenomenon. Personally for me, Nip/Tuck was his strongest show quality wise (even tho it too had its fair share of insanity)
@@musiclover_kb4913 Personally, I found Nip/Tuck to be terrible tbh. I felt it utilized just a lot of toxic tropes in order to try to seem edgy in the same way Glee used stereotypes to try to seem quirky and none of it was done particularly well but at least the characters and actors in glee were more likeable. Again, in my opinions. Your's is 100% valid and I can see why someone would like it. Ultimately, I do think Ryan Murphy is consistently not a good writer and even if he has some quality work, the "lazier approach to writing" shows that he might no longer be. After 6th Sense and Signs, people thought M Night was going to be a a great director but lets face it.... he's not lol. Consistency is important for me to consider someone great at their job.
@@musiclover_kb4913 Ryan Murphy is one of the worst writers I have ever seen in my life, and I say this as a writer myself. Literally all of his shows age bad and American Horror Story only lasted longer because each season had a different story, and even then it was only good until Season 4 or 5, maybe Season 6.
I actually watched glee project before I ever watched glee. And the only reason I then watched glee is because I said if Damien won season 1, I would. And the rest is history
Alex Newell is insanely talented. they were not given much to do on glee (if i recall) but they are AMAZING in the once on this island revival. do yourselves a favor and check out "Mama Will Provide" at the 2018 Tony awards, thank me later.
Alex was given a lot of screen time and the most fleshed out character, to the point of outshining both Sam and Damian who both faded into the background and disappeared overtime (Sam with no explanation)
This show was structurally flawed. I agree that damian won bc Ryan was only seeing the people doing poorly. Season 2 was a bit better about having ryan see people’s performance throughout the week but season 1 especially he was this overlord that had all the power but none of the knowledge. I listened to a podcast that talked about this show episode by episode (recovering gleek!) and they said so much that explains the problem with the glee project.
i agree with absolutely everything you said, i noticed while watching s1 that sam was doing enough to keep going week after week and never stood out, just stayed consisant until the end where he finally talked to ryan, and he basically confirmed that it was his strategy on his episode of the gleek of the week podcast, like I knew I wasn't imagining it. and damian, he got the most face time with ryan, it totally saved him. i rewatched the show recently and yeah s1 was so wholesome, but I liked the cast of s2 a lot, just not the execution, I could tell they were pushing storylines really hard. and blake makes it so hard to watch I hate it every time he appears.but yeah they were clearly building characters like lily tried to make her a bitch but she wasn't lmao, like she's still friends with a lot of them. and Abraham, I loved him so much, but they kept trying to make him into something he wasn't, putting all these labels on him when he wasn't comfortable with it at all, like I could see it, it was so annoying. even he said something like that on gleek of the week (I have been bingeing episodes lmao) and I'm glad he knows who he is now. and most of all aylin, she was so good and I was rooting for her, but I'm Muslim and the way ryan murphy was talking about her, it irked me so much I was glad she didn't win, bc glee was so big and Muslim rep is already very bad, if they added her to the mix the way ryan wanted it would've been disastrous. and you're right, for glee specifically, ryan really wanted to write to the actor and it showed, and it worked with some but not everyone.he does it less now depending on the project I'm glad that pretty much everyone on that show is doing well now. i love lucas modzelewski's video on it, its very thorough, but you really had the opinions I had
Saying Damian not being a good singer blew my mind. He was a founding member of "Celtic Thunder." I rooted for him on season 1 cause he was the one I knew beforehand.
I never got into glee, but I did get into the second season of the glee project specifically for Abraham Lim because I related to him and because he's hot af lol But whatever interest I had in anything glee related died when Blake won. Like you pointed out, in a season that was all about being different and breaking the status quo, we got the same old same old.
It's interesting you weren't into Damien's voice because before being on this show he was in a vocal group called Celtic Thunder that toured the whole US and sold out shows
I thought Sam was hot too. Thank you. They could have done more with Rachel's Barbra Streisand-esque storyline 1. Barbra Streisand's character names her baby Rachel in The Way We Were. Why couldn't THAT have been the reason her name is Rachel instead of her dads being Friends fans? 2. The majority of the Barbra songs she sings (except for 2) are from Funny Girl. She should have sung Everything (A Star is Born) in an episode at some point, considering her drive. Also, with all the Finchel breakups, why did she never sing The Way We Were or You Don't Bring Me Flowers (with Finn or even Jessie) or Who Can I Turn To (This would have made more sense than Total Eclipse of The Heart)? ANY ONE OF THOSE! Come on! She's obsessed with Barbra and It's her middle name! There could have been more! I do makeup and edit videos for a Barbra impressionist, okay? That's why I'm ranting.
One thing that pisses me off about Nellie's treatment is that they basically turned it into a story line with the character of Marley. Marley is uncomfortable about dressing in skimpy clothes for an assignment and gets suspended (I think) from the club because of it.
Only watched season two. Nellie was a big part of my gay awakening (AND DANI holy moly) but not in the sexy way but in the vibes way? Thank you for reading this dumpster fire for FILTH
Lindsey is actually so sweet irl and I hate the way she was portrayed in the show. I think that part of it could be that she was young so she could have grown out of it, but she's always seemed very nice nowadays.
I know everyone seems to like dogging on Damian... but I was rooting for him during the Glee Project because I was a fan of his in Celtic Thunder. I'm still mad that they did his and Sam's character dirty on the show.
The fact that in the acting episode they let Blake play a violent abusive jock and then praised him for how well he could play that part really aged like milk.
OH OOF
What happened?
@@guevara148 his ex-wife Melissa Benoist (aka Marley) came forward about how violently he had abused her, and the fake stories they had to come up with to explain her injuries if they ever came up in interviews.
Everyone was type cast and I swear. Matt Salling hitting on minors in Glee and then IRL was arrested for child corn.
Oh my gosh i totally forgot about that. You are so right.
If Glee was a fever dream, Glee Project was a full-on hallucination.
Glee Project was those mushrooms you found on the side of the road
Never forget when Emily during the Vulnerability episode shared that she was sexually abused and they throw her out on that very same episode because she wasn't being vulnerable enough after walking around with a giant billboard that said USED.
just to save damian for the millionth time..truly insane
After Murphy himself highly praised her performance during the Last Chance Performance.
😳😳😳😳 what
That's some America's next top model Tyra banks level abuse for the sake of television
Holy fucking shit, I had completely forgotten that
You forgot to mention how Season 1 winners never really got the promised "7-episode-arc". They had an arc on the first episode they were in and were basically forgotten for the rest of the show. Sure, Sam did return as a "regular" character, but, again, he was basically furniture. Only Alex, who didn't actually win, got to be an actual character. Glee Project was essentially an unnecessarily complicated audition that already had a part in mind, but called a diverse group of actors anyway in order to make television out of their dreams, only to cast the actor that already fit the part they had in mind, only to treat them as a secondary-class character on the show afterwards.
THIS!!! Damian and Sam were ROBBED... Damian was written off with like one teeny storyline and Sam got blackholed and showed up whenever they needed an extra
Yes this is what i always say, especially in season 2. They already have Ryder's character in mind and it just basically the audition for it and people that have chance are Michael, Charlie and Blake, while Ryan trying to find inspiration to write another character with the other contestant. Bcs i will never forget how season 2 basically have the most diverse cast and the sole winner is the straight white men. How can ryan murphy and co went from writing Joe and Rory as furniture to full on Ryder involved in a love triangle with Marley and Jake. Ryder is always have storyline throughout season 4, not like Rory and Joe.
Well they wanted to cast Cameron. But he was to religious and adorable for that show.
He quit, so they took Cameron’s character and gave it to the sexiest contestant Sam.
Alex should have won the first season and Aylin should have won the second season
Damian winning made no sense at all, this show rules were something else i swear
Joe's (Samuel) characteristic was being a Christian that doesn't wear shoes
Rory's (Damian) characteristic was being Irish and a constant victim of xenophobia
Ryder's (Blake) characteristic was... tall and basic?
Kayla said it right. Blake was Sam (the contestant) lite. And ironically Ryder was also Sam (the character) lite. When Finn passed away, Sam became the new Finn and Ryder became the new Sam.
a constant victim of xenophobia im deaddd 😭
I'm Irish and gay and I always found Roy way more offensive than Kurt. People like Kurt exist in real life. People like Roy haven't existed since the 50s.
“You don’t have a character to write around”
Isn’t that the writer’s job?
Every time!
the funniest part is that Ryan would turn to the writer of glee like 'how do you think it would be writing a character around them? would It be easy/doable?' and the writer is always like 'yeah I mean there's always something so it could work I guess' and Ryan is then like 'see....its just too hard to right a character around them'
like...what lol
🤣😂, right???? These ppl were so lazy expecting the contestants to do all the work.
Unless they clearly ask the contestants to bring characters that will inspire writing.
Omg. Can't believe someone still remember the glee project. As a hard core Gleek back to 2010 to 2015, I still haven't watched this project.
Excuse me that’s TONY AWARD WINNER ALI STROKER! Man it’s wild seeing so many actors who went on to better things. Alex Newell is also doing theatre now too and he was in the Tony award winning revival of Once on This Island and slaaaaayed it.
So happy that so many of them have been successful outside of this show
ali stroker was also in only murders in the building!
Lindsay Pearce played Elphaba on Broadway !!! This is huge!!!
@@psa4578 omg I didn’t know that! Good for her!
Pretty sure Alex's pronouns are they/them btw :)
Girl you flamed Ryan Murphy when you said unless he can exploit you he'll only hire tall white guys with brown hair and nice teeth. Subscribed.
looking back, no way was a female ever had a chance to win given that the last thing Ryan Murphy wanted was another strong female voice to "compete" with Lea...
So you’re telling me Ryan Murphy can write a script for an actress who can’t read but can’t write one for a talented kid who he promised he would…
Classic Ryan Murphy!
After they couldn’t make up their minds in season one and chose 2 winners and 2 runners up, the Oxygen producers told them they had to choose only one winner for season two. The contenders were told in the first episode that there would only be one winner (and yes, they were surprised/shocked). And while she wasn’t announced as the runner up, Ali DID get a small role on Glee as Artie’s wedding hookup at Will’s wedding in I Do.
Marrissa's Elimination was so frustrating. I get how it fed into the whole "Ryan can't write for people who appear too perfect" or something of that manner but why even get her on the show then. I hope she is doing well now!
My husband has an interesting theory about her elimination...the following week was "sexuality" week...and if they had eliminated Cameron that week (like they should have because he was a DIVA) they would have had an even number of "boys" and "girls"...meaning that Alex would have had to play opposite a female love interest.
The show runners took this opportunity to shit on Samuel for not being super comfortable in his role as Alex's love interest but at no point put Alex in a position where they weren't in their comfort zone...at least love interest wise. Now granted, Alex was in the bottom three for that episode but that was also the episode where they performed in drag for the first time. Coincidence? I mean, maybe but it seems too perfect.
I think, because Alex already had a character to build off of, the show runners knew where they could take that character and knew they wouldn't have to struggle to give Alex a place in the story...and clearly when Alex came back the following season as a New Direction member, that was proven. Now, I don't begrudge any success Alex has achieved, but the what ifs are deafening...
"Can't write for people who appear to perfect" sure cause 90% of the original cast of glee were soooo different and not perfect lol.
I know I watched all of The Glee Project but I have repressed all memories of it. Thanks for unlocking those nightmares.
Ali was actually in Glee for like one episode. She was Artie’s “date” for a wedding.
I saw Lindsay pierce in wicked a few months ago and she was AMAZING
I did not catch the first season of the Glee Project but I did somehow fell into watching the second season when it was on. There are a lot of things I completely forgot about until watching this video. But things that did stay with me? Nellie’s voice, that time Michael sang that Ben Folds Five abortion song in a sexy way, and when Blake won and mentioned his half-Cuban ancestry, like cmon Blake… you already won, they obviously don’t care about ~representation~
Nellie and Michael were the best of season 2. They way they were treated was bullshit. That basic white boy Blake winning was INSANE. His voice is basic and his looks are basic (a jock kind of character, we had that already).
I love Damian's voice so much though, it's very smooth and his tone is so nice. I loved Being Green and Blue Christmas by him.
wasn't sure how this video was gonna go what when you featured Rachel as "Illiterate and Annoying" I knew... oh yes I knew... this is gonna be great
i’ve been meaning to “educate” myself on the glee project, so i’m glad your vid popped up in my recommended! also love how you articulate ur points, very well spoken :)
I’ve heard that Murphy basically wrote the character for Cameron but since Cameron left the competition, he chose Sam to win instead since he shared he was religious and hot
I was never a huge fan of anyone on these shows but I so happy that Ali went on to bigger and bigger. I never felt anything for Nelly but Blake winning was the most rigged thing ever
I never watched Glee but inexplicably watched The Glee Project season 2? No idea why I clicked on it to this day but honestly yeah Nellie deserved a billion times better than what she got from them. I still love her song Lights, she was so great.
I can tell I've put Glee on mute in my memories because I completely forgot that they had a white man with locs on this show and since it was the early 2010's no one said a *thing*
Eh the whole discourse around certain hairstyles being cultural appropriation is pretty dishonest.
At least with something like Native American headdresses, it's reducing something with cultural significance to a novelty accessory.
Dreadlocks have existed for thousands of years among various cultures around the world so they're not for one group to gatekeep.
I just remember the outrage I felt about Emily being eliminated; Charlie taking Mario's cane and just nothing being done about it; and how people seemed to be kicked out when it should be their "week" - like Emily during vulnerability, Tyler during Sexuality, Mario in Adaptability... That didn't age well. And again (minus Alex and Aylin being in the grand finale) how the winners/runners up were all straight white people. Ryan said something once about "when I cast a disabled actor - I don't want their character to just be their disability - I want that to just be the 'last' thing you think of...Like Lauren (potter, aka becky Jackson)" (I am paraphrasing) Like... what? So, I'm kinda thankful that they didn't "exploit" any of the actors that I loved because I think Ryan would have ruined their stories... Like turning Sam into a Teen Jesus, non shoe wearing almost "joke" - when he wasn't the typical 'goody-goody' christian like Cameron was (I really think he was trying to mesh both "characters" together.
I see your point, but I just wanted to add that Ali Stoker isn't straight, she's a lesbian.
@@CheckersAndRecords Oh crap! Thanks for that!
@@CheckersAndRecords bisexual.
@@bluz1864 👍
I remember loving The Glee Project! There were so many talented contestants!
You know what’s funny, I’ve barely seen glee but watched every episode of the glee project. I remember so little of it and they never played reruns, so it feels like I made the shit up in my head
Had no idea that Lily got her start in the glee project, fell in love with her on Single Drunk Female (which everyone should watch)!!
I was hella rooting for Aylin, and was so mad that she lost. But then again I was 10 when I watched, so you brought some good points why it would be a disaster if she ended up on Glee
Cameron should have won. Ryan was designing a character for him, the nerdy Christian. It defaulted down to Sam, whose look didn't really fit the character he was sent to play.
I remember watching this on Oxygen network every week when it was first airing 😂😭
OMG OXYGEN NETWORK I FEEL SO OLD 😭😭😭😭
Thank you!!! Thank you for this video for remembering this existed and saying so many truths. Things that needed to be said.
back in 2011 i didn’t even like Glee but i LOVED the Glee Project. my 14 year old self was down horrendous for Marissa & Sam. i guess all it took to entertain my teen self was hot contestants lmao
same!! i believe i stopped watching the moment they eliminated marissa because that wasn't deserved at all
I remember in season 2 they were talking vulnerabilities and being bullied and bc Blake was a tall attractive cis white guy he'd obviously never been picked on so was crying about he saw some kid get beat up and did nothing like W H A T how are YOU crying about this
Small correction, before sharing the story of seeing someone get bullied and beat up, he did say that he himself used to be bullied for being "super skinny". The former story happened when he was in high school, the latter happened when he was in junior high (middle school)
I remember being so pissed that Michael got kicked out in the actability week when he WON IT and they kept Bl*ke who they'd been saying the whole time was such an amazzzing actor but he mostly "played" an asshole UGH
The Glee Project season 2 was better than the actual Glee was at that point (but for all the wrong reasons)
Whoa u share the same name as 1 of the season 1 contestants. R u the same Matheus Fernandes?
cameron mitchell will always be my baby but i too was confused by what he expected joining a teen drama…like yes you will have to kiss other people, you are an actor.
I still love Aylin. She has an excellent voice
All of these years later I'm still salty about Nellie's elimination. :P
I was so into this show that I would tweet at the contestants every week (and mostly telling Alex he was rude af).
I got a follow back from the show’s official Twitter account. My day was made.
It just weirds me out that Glee was between 2009-2015, basically I was in high school when they were but it feels a lot longer, maybe because like many “progressive shows” it’s aged much worse.
8:28 could have easily been one of those parody youtube music videos complaining or dissing something/someone omfg
i love your videos kayla i'm so happy you uploaded early so i could watch this with my breakfast
It says a lot about Ryan Murphy that the most milquetoast guys in the cast won the season
Come on we all know why the Irish guy "won" in season 1. He sang a word in his first song in the bottom wrong. Instead of singing "I wish I had Jessie's Girl" he sang "I wish I was Jessie's Girl" and Ryan Murphy liked the implication of being gay and that was the spark that kept him in Ryan's mind. lol well maybe that's a conspiracy but I believe it. Sam was a plain scoop of vanilla ice cream. Sure it's popular but not what I came to Baskin Robbins for lol
honestly, if you watch back season 1 of the GP, you can see why they liked damien. irl, he's charming and sweet but also humble and fairly talented. but the problem with the writers is that they try and make characters from the actors themselves, so they mainly liked the fact that damien was irish, so they made his character's whole arc revolve around that fact. same with samuel larson, he mentioned religion being a big part of his life, so they made his character the religious kid.
@@alexeifiore8573 I’m pretty confident that they orginally wanted to give Joe Hart’s part to Cameron and that the character was more based around him, since Christianity was more his main thing, but since they couldn’t have him they gave the part to Sam instead
we gonna talk about bryce vine being the first to be eliminated on season 1 of tgp and he’s making hella good music now i love it i love it and i love him
ok you did thank god i love him
It's insane how everyone on the top 5 of s2 were so much more superior to Blake...
so odd to hear the glee project described as relatively forgotten when it lives in my head rent free to this day
I almost couldn’t finish the video because my skin was crawling looking back at the b-roll footage. Back when the show was airing everything was so fun and the character arcs were interesting. But this show ages a million times more poorly than the original Glee. Especially knowing how young some of these contestants are, it feels exploitative.
I agree with all of this overall except.... Damien was one of the better singers. He was. I'm sorry. Maybe it's because I love those crooner rat pack type voices which Damien pulls off amazing. I also did not get the feeling that Ryan liked him too much either. He gave up a successful singing career in Ireland for this shot and he was barely in the 7 episodes he won and was written to be a pervy stereotype who's only personality traits were horny, lonley and irish. He didn't get an arc. He didn't get a character. Sam got a character. Alex got a character. Even Lindsay who was only in for her two episodes get more of a character. Ultimately Ryan's just not a good writers. That's why he demanded his actors give him that hook.
I don't think it's fair to say that Ryan's not a good writer, when he tries, he turns out great shit. I think the success of Glee in particular went to his head and gave him a lazier approach to writing, which makes sense because it was the show that officially blew him over the roof and became a huge phenomenon. Personally for me, Nip/Tuck was his strongest show quality wise (even tho it too had its fair share of insanity)
@@musiclover_kb4913 Personally, I found Nip/Tuck to be terrible tbh. I felt it utilized just a lot of toxic tropes in order to try to seem edgy in the same way Glee used stereotypes to try to seem quirky and none of it was done particularly well but at least the characters and actors in glee were more likeable. Again, in my opinions. Your's is 100% valid and I can see why someone would like it. Ultimately, I do think Ryan Murphy is consistently not a good writer and even if he has some quality work, the "lazier approach to writing" shows that he might no longer be. After 6th Sense and Signs, people thought M Night was going to be a a great director but lets face it.... he's not lol. Consistency is important for me to consider someone great at their job.
@@musiclover_kb4913 Ryan Murphy is one of the worst writers I have ever seen in my life, and I say this as a writer myself. Literally all of his shows age bad and American Horror Story only lasted longer because each season had a different story, and even then it was only good until Season 4 or 5, maybe Season 6.
I'm not saying I blame all my life problems on Ryan Murphy and glee .....HOWEVER-
And Alex Newell is now a Tony Award Winner 🙌🏾
i loved the glee project and their music videosssssssss and Cameron was my fav (i was 11 okay)
At least we got Alex Newell out of this dumpster fire
the way my brain exploded when you pointed out Bryce is BRYCE VINE LIKE HOW DID I MISS THAT
Lily Mae it's part of the cast of "Single Drunk Female" on Hulu!
also didnt Allie appear later on in glee? she was a love interest for artie wasnt she??? at this point idk anymore lmao
She was.
It was for like a single episode
Guys, guys!!! When the guy smacked his head during eye of the tiger! I NEED to find that scene!
I actually watched glee project before I ever watched glee. And the only reason I then watched glee is because I said if Damien won season 1, I would. And the rest is history
Thank you for starting my Tuesday off amazingly! Love your videos Kayla!
Alex Newell is insanely talented. they were not given much to do on glee (if i recall) but they are AMAZING in the once on this island revival. do yourselves a favor and check out "Mama Will Provide" at the 2018 Tony awards, thank me later.
She was on there for like 2-3 sza
Alex was given a lot of screen time and the most fleshed out character, to the point of outshining both Sam and Damian who both faded into the background and disappeared overtime (Sam with no explanation)
This show was structurally flawed. I agree that damian won bc Ryan was only seeing the people doing poorly. Season 2 was a bit better about having ryan see people’s performance throughout the week but season 1 especially he was this overlord that had all the power but none of the knowledge. I listened to a podcast that talked about this show episode by episode (recovering gleek!) and they said so much that explains the problem with the glee project.
quick note: Ali Stroker was in the "I Do" episode of Glee
“every so often”
**glee being all i talk or think about**
I think we need a cultural reset like Glee again, just a thought....
I agree.
just recently rewatched glee project so this video couldn't have come at a more perfect time! amazing work!
Where did you watch it? I’ve been meaning to watch it but i have no idea where
i agree with absolutely everything you said, i noticed while watching s1 that sam was doing enough to keep going week after week and never stood out, just stayed consisant until the end where he finally talked to ryan, and he basically confirmed that it was his strategy on his episode of the gleek of the week podcast, like I knew I wasn't imagining it. and damian, he got the most face time with ryan, it totally saved him. i rewatched the show recently and yeah s1 was so wholesome, but I liked the cast of s2 a lot, just not the execution, I could tell they were pushing storylines really hard. and blake makes it so hard to watch I hate it every time he appears.but yeah they were clearly building characters like lily tried to make her a bitch but she wasn't lmao, like she's still friends with a lot of them. and Abraham, I loved him so much, but they kept trying to make him into something he wasn't, putting all these labels on him when he wasn't comfortable with it at all, like I could see it, it was so annoying. even he said something like that on gleek of the week (I have been bingeing episodes lmao) and I'm glad he knows who he is now. and most of all aylin, she was so good and I was rooting for her, but I'm Muslim and the way ryan murphy was talking about her, it irked me so much I was glad she didn't win, bc glee was so big and Muslim rep is already very bad, if they added her to the mix the way ryan wanted it would've been disastrous. and you're right, for glee specifically, ryan really wanted to write to the actor and it showed, and it worked with some but not everyone.he does it less now depending on the project
I'm glad that pretty much everyone on that show is doing well now. i love lucas modzelewski's video on it, its very thorough, but you really had the opinions I had
I mean, Ali Stroker was BRIEFLY on glee.
Saying Damian not being a good singer blew my mind. He was a founding member of "Celtic Thunder." I rooted for him on season 1 cause he was the one I knew beforehand.
I never got into glee, but I did get into the second season of the glee project specifically for Abraham Lim because I related to him and because he's hot af lol But whatever interest I had in anything glee related died when Blake won. Like you pointed out, in a season that was all about being different and breaking the status quo, we got the same old same old.
It's interesting you weren't into Damien's voice because before being on this show he was in a vocal group called Celtic Thunder that toured the whole US and sold out shows
I remember having such a big crush on Nellie when I was little. I was rooting for her to win.
The Glee Project is what Glee would have looked like without autotune and editing.
No
No
Every day i regret taking a red-eye Greyhound to New York to audition for this show even more LOL
No one can accuse you of false advertising
Never heard about Glee but when Kayla says something I listen
Thank you for addressing how unfairly they treated nellie
GOAT IS BACK 😤✨
First of all, I’m only a minute in and this video is amazing! Second, I just wanted to say I love Alex Newell.
I thought Sam was hot too. Thank you.
They could have done more with Rachel's Barbra Streisand-esque storyline
1. Barbra Streisand's character names her baby Rachel in The Way We Were. Why couldn't THAT have been the reason her name is Rachel instead of her dads being Friends fans?
2. The majority of the Barbra songs she sings (except for 2) are from Funny Girl. She should have sung Everything (A Star is Born) in an episode at some point, considering her drive. Also, with all the Finchel breakups, why did she never sing The Way We Were or You Don't Bring Me Flowers (with Finn or even Jessie) or Who Can I Turn To (This would have made more sense than Total Eclipse of The Heart)? ANY ONE OF THOSE!
Come on! She's obsessed with Barbra and It's her middle name! There could have been more!
I do makeup and edit videos for a Barbra impressionist, okay? That's why I'm ranting.
I would watch glee project over glee ANY day. I miss it so much
Ryan Murphy just seems so dislikable and problematic. And he enabled lea michelle's behavior.
I can’t with the white guy with dreads
One thing that pisses me off about Nellie's treatment is that they basically turned it into a story line with the character of Marley. Marley is uncomfortable about dressing in skimpy clothes for an assignment and gets suspended (I think) from the club because of it.
I don’t think I despise a character more than I despise Rachel berry
🤣🤣 she's aaaaaaaful!! Both of them!!
It is official, as a society, we must use drag race terminology for all reality competition shows. It is happening periodt.
OMG you remembered this jewel.
if they do a reboot, they should invite some of the glee project cast back.
i forgot this was a show 😂 i used to love this show for no reason at all
has anyone ever told you that your voice is soothing and pleasant to listen to?? bc for me at least, it is
The blonde girl in season 2 is a somewhat successful country singer now that is called, I could be wrong here, Harper Grace or something like that.
I can’t believe people don’t remember the glee project
JUSTICE FOR BRYCE AND HANNAH
All I know is that Aylin was ROBBED
I never watched The Glee Project. The first clip of them performing on the Today Show has me fucking HOOKED. What a trash fire!
this show was my awakening
Only watched season two. Nellie was a big part of my gay awakening (AND DANI holy moly) but not in the sexy way but in the vibes way? Thank you for reading this dumpster fire for FILTH
Glee Their Once Singing & Dancing Covers The Original Singers
my mind being actually blown that bryce vine was on the glee project
Lindsey is actually so sweet irl and I hate the way she was portrayed in the show. I think that part of it could be that she was young so she could have grown out of it, but she's always seemed very nice nowadays.
I know everyone seems to like dogging on Damian... but I was rooting for him during the Glee Project because I was a fan of his in Celtic Thunder. I'm still mad that they did his and Sam's character dirty on the show.
Great video