American Persimmon Harvest
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ต.ค. 2020
- In this video, we harvest fruit from the American Persimmon tree. We must get the fruit off before a hard freeze even if the fruit isn't fully ripe.
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I found American persimmons on the ground at the outdoor concert venue for the Smashing Pumpkins in September 2023. I saved the seeds and currently have seven seedlings growing in pots on my patio!!!!
I loved your posting
Just today I discovered a tree in a field at the elementary school where I teach. I am zone 7b--the fruit are very firm, so I will keep an eye on them. I will take my long fishing net to reach as high as possible. One type of Asian persimmon stays fairly firm when ripe, but there is a second kind similar to the American type--you must wait for mushy ripeness. We once picked unripe persimmon on a farm and put them in a paper bag with some apples to ripen--worked a charm! Thank you for your video.
I recently discovered an American persimmon tree in an abandoned parking lot, I'm excited to try a couple of them.
Thanks Kevin! I have a number of trees on my land. I just shake the trees to harvest the fruit. Besides freezing the pulp, I also dehydrate them. They make a lovely fruit leather to snack on. Dehydrated pulp can readily be rehydrated to make baked goods. It’s shelf stable.
Thank you so much for the dehydration tips. Have a great day!
Definitely good idea! Have to try this Fall. I bought from Costco dried persimmons and they taste really not what I expected. I think they harvested it too green.
I have 1American Persimmon tree. Just harvested 3 batches around 50 each batch. They are sweet especially if you put them in the refrigerator before eating them.
This is big persimmons! The biggest I seen only 3/4”
Persimmon is one of my favorite fruits. Cheers for sharing your harvest video. Cheers from the top of the mountain.
Thank you I touched the sky! We look forward to the persimmons each fall.
Lovely fruits. Cheers.
About a month ago I went to a local park that has dozens of those trees, many of which are 20-30’ tall and you can just shake the trunks and the ripe ones will fall. From 30’ up, many go splat on the ground, unfortunately, but if they are not split too bad they are good enough for baking right away. There is truly nothing quite like them. I was thinking maybe the flavor could be approximated using plums and a dash of sweet cherries and apricots.
That's really neat that you're able to discover some mature fruit producing trees. If you have access to some inner tubes from cars and a tarp I think it might work out to lay a few inner tubes on the ground and cover them with a tarp or something of that fashion so that when the fruit fall the impact will be reduced by not hitting the surface of the ground. Mulberries are commonly harvested by shaking the trunk of the tree with a tarp on the ground to gather up a large supply of mulberries. Thanks for sharing, have an awesome day!
Put sheets under the trees to harvest them to avoid getting them dirty.
Nothing beats freshly made persimmon pudding, but if you don't have access to trees, you can order canned persimmon from persimmon farms in Indiana. Just web search.
Great idea!
Well Kev I just got all my garlic in yesterday going to leaf cover them this winter
One of my Persimmon trees is even bit of 50 foot tall.
Thank you for this wonderful, informative video. I just planted 4 American Persimmons in zone 5b, and am certainly hoping that I end up with at least one female and one male tree. I'm eager to try them, even though I know it's going to be a bit of a wait.
If you're in north georgia, or feel like driving here, I'd gladly share! I have foraged some from some wild trees :) they're delicious & I hope you get to try them soon :)
@@blefnefnef Aw, thank you. That's a very kind offer, but I'm actually in Colorado. I had to get some new persimmons ordered this year, because not all of the original ones survived, but I'm keeping my hopes up that what I have will eventually bear fruit. :)
@@gardennerd1757 I shouldve figured you were pretty far north by the zone; thought about it right after I posted lol. I hear theyll grow up to zone 4 though! Maybe some compost would help keep em warm during cold winters & help them survive - im no botanist by any means though, just an amatuer gardener; take my advice with a grain of salt. Well, if you ever need some free seeds, or wanna try some fruit before your trees bear it, just holler, I'd be willing to mail it to ya too! Just cover postage. Just generate a random email & post it here if ya do & I'll email ya back! I wish you luck on growing them though & hope your new trees work out & that you can enjoy the tasty treat the fruit are in years to come :). I hear its offered in a canned version as well, but cant comment on how close it is in flavor as I havent had it. The taste of the American version is pretty similar to the Japanese version if memory serves (its been 10 years or better since ive had a japanese persimmon; I'd describe both as a carrot/pumpkin/sweet potatoe type of taste, but very sweet, & not a vegetable type taste, more candy or fruit than vegetable. You can find the Japanese one in chain stores down here in the south occasionally, that's why I mention it. The American kind are smaller by a good deal & very astringent if not ripe; those are the biggest differences in my opinion, both are delicious & fairly similar when ripe :)
thank you! amazing and practical info
Persimmon cuttings are virtually impossible to root outside the lab...even there, pretty low percentage . Often large trees put out a lot of root suckers; they can sometimes be transplanted if you can get adequate root mass. Seeds and grafting are the only practical methods of persimmon propagation.
Boy Kevin, I wish I could grow pawpaw and persimmons in my part of ny (zone 4a)
Hi Michael, although I don't think you can be successful growing paw paws and getting fruit in zone 4, I understand that the American persimmons which I grow is hardy to zone 4. The tree is supposedly hardy up till minus 25 degrees Fahrenheit. You would have to harvest the fruit just before a hard freeze just like we do. Even though the fruit isn't ripe. It doesn't take only a few days for the fruit to completely ripen on the countertop. I hope this information is helpful. Do a Google search for American persimmon hardiness. Have a great day!
@@GrowingABetterTomorrow Thanks a lot Kevin, I'll do that. Take care, be safe.
Hi Kevin...i have about 4 of these planted in my food forest and 2 of them are about 8-10 feet tall...cant wait to taste one...i noticed the other day that i have one about 4 feet away from one of the trees that i did not plant so i assume it is a sucker...do you think it would be possible to dig that up and transplant to another location?
That's a good question Tim! Yes it probably is a sucker. I've had mixed luck transplanting persimmons that have suckered up. I think it's worth a try. However I would be sure to trace back the route at least 12 to 18 inches from the main tree and cut it there. I would bury the bleeding root coming from the mother tree at the same level of soil and the trailing route leading away from the sucker directed down like a taproot. I would also prune back all of the lateral branches and just leave the apical bud at the tip of the tree intact. This is the time of year to do try this experiment. That would make a great video for you to share as well. Stay warm buddy! And have an awesome day!
I’m very sad we can’t have these trees where I live, too far north. I’ve had persimmons only a few times in my life and they were one of the most delicious fruits I’ve ever had
So sorry to hear that. Thea. Just harvested a couple of gallons yesterday and we really do enjoy them. Take care!
Where to get them in Russia, I wonder? I'd like to have the tre in my garden.. Alongside with mulberries:)
I have foraged some persimmon fruit & have seeds, if you're still looking! & I'd be glad to send a small amount of seeds totally free of charge if you'd just cover the postage & whatever customs charges may be. If you have an email youd be willing to post, I'll gladly email you :) I also know where a mulberry tree lives & could hook you up with seeds from it as well, but unfortunately, it's season has passed & it would have to be next year before I could harvest more mulberries and seed. You should be able to find a toooon of websites offering both of them as well, worst case.
My goodness, those are nice ones. They aren't nearly that large here in north GA. They just started dropping off the tree a few days ago (Always around Labor Day). My tree is around 40 to 45 feet tall and most of the fruit is above 10 feet. I only pick them up and eat them fresh and that will go on for a while yet. There's still plenty of green fruit on the tree but nearly all of it will drop before frost comes along. I don't get crazy eating them and there's plenty left behind for the deer and smaller critters around the house that like to eat them.
Strange - I'm in dawsonville Ga & find fruit up to 2" on native trees while exploring the forest my property is backed up to. Maybe you just have a tree or species that doesn't produce big ones? I just harvested some a few days ago; Sept 20th or thereabouts. Tree was probably 50ft or better, & was diospyros virginiana. Found a ton on the ground; some good, some mush. Kicked it several times and got it to drop even more. They taste so good :) gotta be one of my favorite native fruits.
Never seen it before. I'm originally from the NC mountains and never saw fruit anywhere near two inches. Much more in line with what I have here. There's a tree across the street from me at a neighbors house that produces some a little bigger. Maybe because it gets better sunlight than mine? Luckily they don't seem to care for them and I get to snipe a few from them too. :) The critters have been working them hard this year so I've not had as many as usual. Even the birds are hitting them in the trees hard before they fall. More than usual. Everybody's gotta eat. :)
@@beebop9808Strange & curious. I'm betting it's that yours are in shade or something, even though I hear they prefer partial shade.. maybe a blight? The only trees I've found other than one growing in a friend's yard have been this year, & I've only found 2 other than his, so it could just be that ive found a spectacular tree as well, I guess. Just starting to get real big into foraging. Anywho, 1 tree, its fruit is around 2" fruit, some slightly bigger, some smaller, down to an inch, and it is in a good sunny location, just off a roadside, front row in the tree line. Probably 50ft or thereabouts tall & produces a ton of beautiful fruit. Another was in the thick of the woods, about 50ft into a treeline, by a creek, & is maybe 60ft tall, & it definitely produced less fruit, smaller fruit, etc. The one in my friends yard was taller than either of these, produced smaller fruit like the one deep in the woods, but was along a fence line, & got full sun, like the one thats produced the excellent & larger fruit. Again, I'm out of Ga. North ga. Dawsonville to be specific. Close to atl. Bummer that you havent been able to beat the birds, opossum and deer to a few this year! If you're ever in north georgia around Sept 20th/ early nov, hit me up, & I'll gladly share my persimmons & show you my good tree :) glad to send photos if you have a way to do so too; like a generated email you could post or whathaveyou. & don't get me wrong - I love wildlife & nature & agree with you about saving some for the critters & always try to leave some fruit/berries, etc, for them to eat *& so a plant can reproduce for next year/years to come in some cases*, like in the case of ramps; sustainable practices are the only way to do things! That said, I'm snagging as many persimmons as I can this year; im trying to grow a bunch on the property im on. I only found one that had been eaten on already, I dont think anyone will miss these too bad. Persimmon is one of my favorite fruits. Probably my favorite native fruit. Passiflora incarnata gives it a run for its money in my opinion, I'm growing it too lol. Trying to get my hands on some pawpaw too, only found 1 decent one this year, & it wasnt ripe so I didnt/dont count it. Found a good patch, but bears beat me to it. I want to try mayapple real bad too. I guess there's always next year, til there isn't lol.
I'm not that far away from you. I'm in Loganville. I don't do or make anything out of the fruit I have around. I'm happy to eat some fresh or dehydrate some of it. Became type II diabetic so that limits me some. I've got blueberries, goose berries, peaches, nectarines and the beginnings of some good fig varieties. Just germinated some apricot seeds and hope to get somewhere with those. Tree ripened apricots are off the chain! I've also got a healthy herd of deer, about 20 regulars in the back yard. Plenty of coons and possum with piles of birds of all kinds. If they aren't picking around in my fruit, I'm feeding all of them. I enjoy having them around as much as the goodies to eat. :) I've got a buddy at work that tells me he has persimmon all over property he has over in Bama. 20 or 30 he says. Haven't seen him in a couple months. Don't know if he's doing anything with them or not? Probably not. He just wants squirrels and rabbits. lol
@@beebop9808 Super cool! Small world! I can't say I know Loganville, but I do recognize the 770 area code! I grew up in gainesville, dahlonega & murrayville largely. Persimmons are sooooo good fresh, I haven't had it dehydrated but am planning to do that, & want to try a jam or a pie real bad too; I understand about the diabetes though, don't have it myself but many of my friends and family do. I grow blueberries too, & also a ton of others; strawberry, blackberry, boysenberry, raspberry, goji, deerberry, avian cherry, pawpaw trees (just no fruit yet lol), blackhaw, yucca, & have a peach tree myself. Dewberry are great too & im looking to get some of those going here too. & there's (of course) a ton of muscadine out here growing naturally, like most everywhere; I'm living on a friend's 19 acres. I'm mostly interested in natives & keeping it a natural landscape. Apricots are one of my favorites though, & I didn't know they grew here, but will have to give that a shot as well! Cant say I've ever had a tree ripened one, but thats the best way for about everything in my opinion; so much more flavor than storebought stuff thats picked early for longer shelf life. Same with the nectarines, had no idea they grew here, too cool, gonna have to give those a shot myself as well. I aspire to do what you have done with your property; attract wildlife, & have plenty of food around for sustenance if its ever needed. Im not wanting to attract animals for hunting either. I'm backed up to dawson forest & see a ton of deer every time I walk out there, but they largely stay out of my yard & run as soon as they hear me coming lol, used to hunters, I guess. Would love to have a little safe haven for em.
Question:....I own 10 acres & was walking on the property a few years ago around Late Oct & found a persimmon tree about 20' tall w/ persimmons on it...I had no idea it was there...but this being the only tree there, how did it get polinated...?
I just went to a nursey & bought a persimmon & they said this one is self pollinating.....I want to plant more of them but here in Southern ohio it's not easy to find them for sale....it cost me 129.oo...two Keiffer pears were 89.oo each, so i bought two of them
In the spring, American persimmon trees produce small, cream-colored, bell-shaped flowers that bloom from April to June, depending on the location. Native bees, honey bees, and other long-tongued bee species, such as bumblebees, Mason bees, leaf cutting bees, and cuckoo bees, are the primary pollinators of persimmons. Pollinated female flowers produce fruit that ripen and turn orange or bluish in the fall.
The 90-chromosome American persimmon, native to the northern U.S., sets fruit parthenocarpically, without pollination. This means that pollination isn't necessary for this type of American persimmon, and the fruit is easier to process because it has few or no seeds.
What about persimmon vinegar? I've noticed a couple of persimmon trees hanging over the asphalt roadway because of the fruit falling there. Some seeds remain and I was wondering how to do propagation from the seeds. Stratification might be required and some cages to prevent the deer from eating every small tree, of course. Can female scions be grafted on to either sex parent trees? When is the best time to graft them? Thx
Crafting them when they're dormant is the best if you're grafting science onto rootstock. Yes the persimmon seeds must undergo a cold stratification.
Hi Kevin, I live in NC. Zone 8. I have a big tall male American Perssimon tree. It's a volunteer. And birds have planted a line of female trees along my fence line. There's about 5 or 6 in a row. This is their 2nd year producing. And the branches are loaded with green fruit. So I have been planning on making perssimon jam. But I saw a comment on another video, that said you can't can American Perssimons. Is this true?
Curious! I know people make them into jams & the like.. I'm unsure why you wouldn't be able to can them & a quick Google search seems to say canning them is ok - but Google can be wrong & im no expert by any means! Definitely let us know if you figured out a solid definitive answer to your question.
@@blefnefnef thank you for responding. Unfortunately I haven't been able to harvest my perssimons this year.
But my mare and donkey have, and are busy planting more perssimon trees.
Got a question for ya Kevin! I read that you should only eat 1 per day due to intestinal/blockage type issues; thats also about the Japanese variety im fairly certain, which I know is much larger than the American version, diospyros virginiana. I heard you say you ate 20 during the filming of this video! Have you ever had upset stomach from the large amounts you eat?
I've eaten quite a few persimmons fresh off the tree each time I harvest them after our first frost. I've never had any gastrointestinal issues after consuming them. If you do find an article that is peer-reviewed I would certainly be interested in reviewing it. Thank you
@@GrowingABetterTomorrow Good to know! Thank you for your reply Kevin. My dog and I have been eating em by the fistful too, with seemingly no problems thus far lol. I'll be sure to be safe of course & use moderation. & here's an article that's peer reviewed, but it doesn't list a number, just says "dont eat too many"; other websites seem to say "1 a day"/"100g a day" is the most you wanna consume. A quick google of "how many persimmons is too many" or something akin to that will bring up a ton of links. Something to do with a bezoar formation, like a big stone blockage. I think it's mostly something that would happen if they weren't ripe enough, & if you ate a ton of super astringent fruit, but I am certainly a novice; just found my first good persimmon trees recently. So good when they're ripe & from a good tree :) gonna try and grow some on my property. Anywho, heres a link - www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/persimmon-fruit
how old do they need to be to produce fruit, please? Thank you!
About 5 to 7 years old and our property before they produce fruit. It's probably very dependent on soil conditions as well.
is it safe to use water from a Dehumidifier to water plants?
Hi Alan, thanks for the question. The water certainly isn't sterile and neither is well water or pond water. However as long as there aren't any plant disease issues in your house and no mold issues. I would certainly use the water from a dehumidifier. Thanks for the question. Have an awesome day!
10:04 - It is like poker, did you say? or something like that..
He said "it will make you pucker" :) think like a lemon or a warhead candy lol, that face lol. Different sensation though, not sour, but astringency; think instant dry mouth. Basically, if diospyros virginiana isn't FULLY ripe & doesn't have a little squish to it, it will be very astringent, & you will not want to eat it. You will want to spit it out immediately and rinse your mouth out lol. Ripe = delicious. Unripe = cotton mouth.
This notion that asians don't have astringent persimmons is not true. Most of our persimmons are astringent. You may just not be familiar with them in store for the same reason you mentioned that they don't sell American persimmons in store - very short self life. Let's not forget that north America shares many of Asia's native plants from when they were attached. On a totally unrelated note, I remember even just 10 years ago, most Caucasians never ate persimmons and found their texture to be disgusting. I hope that doesn't sound ignorant but I'm quite intrigued to see many westerners now embracing persimmon fruits and even growing them.
Thank you for your comment and for sharing your insights. You're absolutely right-many Asian persimmon varieties are indeed astringent, and it's true that they may not be as commonly found in stores due to their short shelf life, much like American persimmons. The differences in availability can sometimes lead to misconceptions about the types of persimmons that are out there.
Your point about the shared flora between North America and Asia is fascinating and highlights the deep connections in our natural history. It's also interesting to hear your observations about changing perceptions of persimmons over the past decade. As more people are exposed to diverse fruits, it's wonderful to see tastes and preferences evolve.
Thank you again for adding this valuable perspective to the conversation!