A History of Unmade John Carpenter Movies
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- A trip through the filmmaking history of John Carpenter to reveal the many movies that the Horror Master almost made, ranging from a collaboration with Black Christmas director Bob Clark to a remake of Creature From The Black Lagoon through the Snake Plissken part 3 of Escape From Earth. Would these have been more classic entries into Carpenter's filmography? Or is it best these went unmade?
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Music:
"Christine," "Halloween," "The Fog," "Escape from New York" and "Firestarter by John Carpenter
"Il Triello" by Ennio Morricone
"Christmastime Is Here" by Vince Guaraldi Trio
"Ghost In Your Stereo" and "Monsters" by The Midnight
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John carpenter is the man that’s far ahead of the curve that audiences couldn’t grasp at the times, but further down the line are appreciated as fine art!
how many cliches can we write the wrong way
@@arvinbuenaagua5161 - How many doucheb@gs feel their dim, negative, clueless opinion matters in the least?
He didn't get the promotion promised for Big Trouble In Little China . On top of that they could have done some spin against the claim of racism in the movie . All the actors of the movie didn't agree on any racism in the movie
John Carpenter is a national treasure and its so unfair how much he got screwed by Hollywood executives and audiences that didn't want risks.
His Apocalypse Trilogy is the best Lovecraft films ever made
Prince of Darkness is the weakest link imo but they're all absolutely amazing cosmic horror
@@Mitcheck315 Prince of Darkness is underrated
@@jonathanmulondo9206 I agree 100%, I’ve rewatched Prince of Darkness twice in the past year, and it really grew on me a lot since I originally saw it 20 or so years ago. I don’t think it’ll ever have the “rediscovery” appeal of The Thing, but give it a few years and I bet more people will come around to it. That movie is great.
I think he had a few projects that would’ve been excellent, but ultimately he didn’t like working with bigger budgets, in which a studio has more oversight, so it’s likely he’d have been miserable.
He is a really great example of necessity being the mother of invention, with how he plans things out for the lower budgets he’s had, and makes it work for him.
I think his musical scores, are also both praised and underrated.
One day, I’ll make a video on how Halloween, just wouldn’t work as well without his score. There are many simple moments, that a synthesizer effect really makes hit harder.
It sets tone, and often gives the viewer clues as to what’s about to happen, and in the moment.
In the Mouth of Madness is one of my favorite movies of all time.
I read a lot of Lovecraft, from middle school through high school, and I’d also read many Stephen King, and a few Dean Koontz books/short stories, so it was a perfect movie for me at 18 years old.
Speaking of Koontz, if you’ve ever seen the movie High Tension; there’s a made for tv, two part miniseries, based on the book Intensity, which was made several years prior.
High Tension steals multiple scenes straight from the book, and/or the miniseries, to the point it made the movie unwatchable for me.
A Dead Space movie made by Carpenter would be so sick.
I think he actually mentioned at Fantasia Festival that no one's ever offered him a video game adaptation... despite him being an avid gamer.
It would definitely be better than the ever worse Resident Evil movies .
In his peak performance yeah, but I would be kinda worried today. He hasn't made a film since the Ward and that was pretty terrible.
@@ristoherranen816 yeah, I see what you mean. But given the opportunity to direct a passion project???
It would be sick ? Or healthy !
John Carpenter, George Romero, Wes Craven, Sean Cunningham, John Landis, Tobey Hooper, Dario Argento, Guillermo del Toro, there are so many horror film masters whose stories are waiting to be told that they all deserve a feature. I know the golden age of classic horror may never return, but hopefully at least the next generation of young people will still be able to explore the treasures of the past.
Man. That Creature and shadow company movie sounds so good.
Creature for the black lagoon directed John Carpenter. That movie would have been amazing. Hoping he can make another film if he wants to! And would love to hear you make a video on Guillermo Del Toro's cancelled At The Mountains of Madness
John Carpenter is my favorite director. I’ve always loved his movies.
John Carpenter is a director who, while not always great, always makes films that are interesting and fun.
Edit: I wish we saw his Creature from the Black Lagoon movie. It would have been awesome.
well, I wouldn't say Ghosts of Mars is interesting or fun, but that's just one out of 17 that really doesn't have anything going for it
@@Mitcheck315 The problems with that film are not with John Carpenter. Not to say that's there weren't problems though.
@@carsonsmith7314 who is at fault then?
@@Bale4Bond Murphy’s law.
@@carsonsmith7314 what?
You should talk about Carpenter’s two episodes of the anthology series MASTERS OF HORROR from around 2006. His episode “Cigarette Burns” is one of the most uncomfortably disturbing things he’s ever made and his other episode “Pro-Life” is pretty good too.
It’s a great, little remembered hard R horror series overall.
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It’s so sad that nothing of his truly succeeded except for Halloween. He deserved far more success than he had, and I’m glad more people nowadays are realizing it
The Thing truly succeeded, just not right away. It’s widely regarded as one of the horror GOAT movies.
@@musicdunc "just not right away" is the problem it should have financially succeeded the moment it was on the big screen
@@TinyLordCthulhu I saw it at a sneak preview before it was officially released, and a lot of people walked out. “The Thing” is just *too* good, if you get my meaning. Most people don’t appreciate real art. Also, I know the ending put a lot of people off, normies always want the hero to unambiguously win in the end. That’s why the original ending of “Alien” was changed after test screenings.
@@gregbors8364 I’m glad they changed the end of Alien.
@@leonwoodley99 That I can agree with cause we got a really good sequel.
Fuuuuuuck, man! That Creature from the Black Lagoon remake sounds so good.
mfs green light video game movies no one wants, but one green light a John Carpenter directed Dead Space movie? Whack.
That Creature remake would have been so cool to see, that one is the toughest miss for me. I feel like Dead Space has been just completely dormant after 3. Maybe if the remake does well something might happen with a movie?
I can never get over how The Thing was treated at release. Love that film with every fibre of my being.
It took long enough, but its charm ultimately assimilated with the general public.
Grew up in the 80’s and when I learned what a movie director was and some of their names I realized that John Carpenter directed all my favorite movies
It would be cool to see a reboot of the Creature From The Black Lagoon.
I hope that, before he dies, Carpenter makes another film. I so want to be a director just like him.
Was hoping you’d do prince of darkness. One of the greatest underrated gems I’ve seen
I'll definitely get around to that at some point
It aint really that good bro
10:26 Sam Neill's ability to make a gun glued to the side of his head look like an invisible man holding it there should be commended.
Ya know. A lot of these can easily work in comic form. A slasher horror Ninja story, the Gillman as an anti hero like figure, and the rest are perfect for comics.
Happy spooky month! John Carpenter is a legend and I’ll always remember him for doing that LABO commercial and shitting on it lmao
You didn't mention that Escape From Earth was sort of re-worked into "Ghosts of Mars," with Ice-Cube's "Desolation Williams" standing in for the character. Even has the same costume.
I just found out recently that "Snake Plissken's Escape" is what eventually became the game "Dead to Rights."
Carpenter and Baker on a black lagoon movie? I would have been like sold
You should do a video about the Masters of horror series, at least for season one. It had some very good episodes.
Dude this was an awesome video! Creature from black lagoon or dead space would have been amazing. Perhaps Wes Craven next?
Black Lagoon gets my vote but I do love the shape of water and who knows if that would have happened. Carpenter working on more general audience fare would have been fascinating like Santa Claus
Praying to God my man finally gets to make that Creature from the Black Lagoon movie 🙏🙏
Incredible as ever 🎉 maybe a Wee Craven Unmade video next?..
I personally always wanted to see him do a western.
After this now I understand why carpenter decided not to do studio movies or direct anymore
I would love to see carpenter tackle more video games
He could do anything and I would be in the theater day 1. He did the score, consulted on the story, showed up to set one day. I don’t care. Day one.
Among all the films listed here, I really wish Carpenter made "Shadow Company". I read the script and its amazing, especially since you have the writer of Lethal Weapon and The Last Boy Scout attached to it.
I mean what was John doing between 1988 and 1992 that he couldn't make this action horror thrill ride?
The fact that all of his movies that weren't Halloween were all massive flops and poorly reviewed.....You actually have to make successful movies for studios to want to trust you with money.....It why there is no universe where they would ever let him make a Dead Space movie, a budget for that would easily be somewhere in the 100 million range, they would never trust him with that much money.
I am sure that it would have been a huge hit! It could have had sequels, comics, novels, games about it! There is always the PS3 game SHELLSHOCK 2 BLOOD TRAILS to play! Also, the actor James C Burns, who played Sergeant Frank Woods in COD, tried to kick start a Vietnam zombies film.
John Carpenter is my favorite director of all time. I just wish people saw more then just a horror director as when he did Sci Fi and pure action he is remarkable.
Cant wait for spooky season
Another great video. Went through a lot of Carpenter’s filmography over the past two years so it’s always interesting to hear his long forgotten projects. Out of all of them I would’ve loved to see the Santa Claus movie and the Creature from the Black Lagoon remake. Great work as always Matt. Can’t wait for more Halloween videos.
Thanks so much! Get ready for a new one every week!
met John in Pittsburgh this August. he's a legend and a nice guy.
I have the scripts for what would of been his Creature from The Black Lagoon remake and really enjoyed them. Wish it was made
a slasher picking off workers at a nuclear power plant during a meltdown sounds like gold. set it during the late 70s and get it done, somebody.
all these old directors need to make games before they die.
Great video, looking forward to all your vids for the season. I agree that the one I want to see the most is that creature from the black lagoon remake.
I feel like you made this video just for me appreciate these unmade deep dives
Me: oh man I need something to watch while I do mindless busy work.
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Me: LETS GOOOOOOOO!!!
Every time I hear about Michael Myers being in a crossover with another horror icon such as Pinhead or Jason Voorhees, Akkad would always rejected the idea. And this pisses me off, I think Michael Myers going toe-to-toe with Jason and Freddy would’ve been the best horror movie crossovers for the ages. Disagree with me all you want, but this is still the most wanted dream matches.
A George Romero episode would be fantastic. A documentary is getting made about his unmade Resident Evil movie
The script tells you exactly why Romero never got to make his Resident Evil movie.....I love Romero but god damn his Resident Evil script was god awful, garbage trash.....It would have just made for a Resident Evil movie that was god awful garbage along the level of Survival of the Dead.
Creature from the Black Lagoon seemed so awesome, shame it was never made.
They told Jack Arnold he would get the chance to remake Creature.It became Jaws instead directed by a certain Spielberg.
Awesome, love your horror videos Matt, love them all but especially the horror. I'd love if you did an Evil Dead/Sam Raimi/Bruce Campbell video!!
Very interesting
Another quality video by Matt Draper
Shadow company sounds like a fun watch
I'm a HUGE Carpenter stan. The Thing is pure gold. That said, I am one of two people that didn't hate the prequel. It wasn't perfect but I think had it been its own movie it would have been looked upon more fairly.
The creature from the Black Lagoon sounded amazing, and it could have been a great double bill with The Shape of Water!! One can only dream!!!
Awesome video, Matt!! Thanx!!
Great video Matt, John Carpenter is one of the greatest, im sad his version of The creature of the black lagoon didnt get made, the only thing that scratch that itch is the shape of water, even tho the tone sounds very diferent
Carpenter is the father of modern day American independent film
I guess you’ve never heard of Roger Corman
Roger corman films were fun especially with Vincent price starring in several…but, a few were a little too cheesy for reality.
Love your unmade videos as their very enlightening and loaded with concepts and 'what ifs' that I and many others have never heard before! If you plan on tackling King Kong, Godzilla, or kaiju in general, I can get you in touch with John LeMay and Kevin Derendorf, successful authors and experts on the matter
I think that Star Man is as close to a masterwork of a sci fi movie as since 2001, and I have adored John Carpenter since I was a kid and adored the still then pristine snows and winter joy of Welles magical New Florence of films.
Christine is the greatest piece of synth-wave music ever made
I'll miss comic videos but this was fire
I genuinely don't believe supe comics deserved your quality content
I AGREE
Thanks for the amazing video Matt. Much ❤ as always
Man, why does The Gill Man ALWAYS GET THE SHAFT??
That Shadow Company movie sounds amazing. I’d love to see every one of these movies including The Thing sequel. It needs to be a series picking up right after the first movie with Kurt Russell.
From what I've heard, he's currently in discussions with studios about a remake of The Thing based on John Campbell's recently discovered novella called "Frozen Hell" (also known as "Pandora.") This story differs from the 1982 film in a number of ways including the fact that the creature possess the ability to read minds. Of course, Carpenter's version of The Thing was based on Campbell's "Who Goes There?" of which "Frozen Hell" is an earlier longer more detailed draft.
I wish he would make "We Sleep" a sequel to They Live
Awesome Video as always. I love me some John Carpenter as I love a lot his work even though I haven’t seen all his work, but I do want him to do one or two more films hopefully a western as is his life long dream to do one. The one movie I would like to see happens is the nuclear plant slasher movie as the setting make stand out from other slashers, hopefully someone will use this idea and runs with it.
Thanks again Matt, I always look forward to your videos. Always interesting and entertaining.
John Carpenter has also been attached to two separate Dracula adaptations. One was around the time of Memoirs, and the other in the late 2000s/early 2010s where he was slated to direct Fangland, an adaptation of John Marks' novel which is a reinvisionist take on Dracula set in a post 9/11 New York in a 60 Minutes style news organization, with Hilary Swank set to produce and Star. After Carpenter left, Wes Craven was hired to direct before he died a few years later.
My fave horror director. Hollywood should treat him with respect as most of his ideas have been hijacked and made into other movies. CFTBL movie would have been awesome! A Thing sequel would have been good too!
Man, passing on Exorcist 3....! Now THAT would've been a movie i'd want to see as it is actually one of my fave horror movies.
I really hope that he comes back to direct, and with the success of the remakes of Halloween, I think that Blumhouse will be the production house that have directorial plans for him and will give him the freedom he wants. PLUS it's a production house that loves and respects him and will no doubt give JC the agreements to make the movie HE wants and with not so much interference. He seems to get along and like working with the team behind the remakes of Halloween over there, so I can't see him going into production with any other company as all the others promise him the world, but deliver him nothing.
Good luck John Carpenter, perhaps you may not have had the respect and honours you rightly deserved from Hollywood etc, but know that amongst TRUE horror fans, we give you the 'props' you always deserve and we hold that torch for your movies and will continue to do so well after you've gone.
And listen up Oscars.....THIS MAN DESERVES A LIFETIME ACHIEVERS AWARD AS A DIRECTOR. IT'S THE LEAST YOU CAN DO. You've given them to far less, and without THIS man, the cash you've made with slasher genre started by him and Bob Clark (Black Christmas 1974), you wouldn't have the multimillion horror franchises you have today....... SHOW THIS MAN RESPECT!
Aaaah...the realm of possibilities.
Another interesting fact about Firestarter and Christine: George A. Romero was originally set to direct the film adaptation of Christine (as he and King were friends and had worked on Creepshow together). Romero was released from the project and Carpenter had taken over.
I also wish we got to see the Black Lagoon remake.
Shame how often people got cold feet for his projects.
Wow I love john carpenter but didn't know almost any of these. Id lobe to see him come back and make another film but maybe its for the best. I wish I could've seen him actually do s straight up western though. great vid
My choice for movies that he did not make would be Escape from Earth --the third snake pliskin movie
Mr. carpenter we really really need you.
Brilliant video.
Darren Arronofsky has been attached to many interesting projects including Batman, RoboCop and Wolverine (he was very close to make this one)
This man is on another level 🥇
Successess & setbacks... perfect choice of words. One of his biggest setbacks, became one of the greatest Horror/Sci-Fi movies of all time. His setbacks, should never be considered as absolute failures. Big Trouble in Little China is beloved now, and some people that discovered it later, discovered that much of Mortal Kombat came from that movie. No need to discuss what They Live has contributed, all with the great Rowdy Roddy Piper, who did a pretty poor acting job, but somehow came out as iconic anyway. His Successes and failures were always very unique, and if they didn't succeed themselves, they made a huge impact on other creators' visions. Most of them. Don't @me for Ghosts of Mars.. the guy is pure genius and talent. Have you seen the video where he plays the Halloween theme on the Nintendo Labo? It's awesome, he's great.
John carpenter have so many unmade project that look so interresting,make us Wonder what could have been if was made
John Carpenter: Makes a low-budget horror film that becomes a classic masterpiece
Also John Carpenter: Yeah, so I'm gonna need 80M to shoot this one.
Would be awesome to have had a collaboration between John Carpenter and Quentin Tarantino maybe do escape from earth snake Pliskin’s got a family
Hey there Matt. Love the video. You need to do unmade godzilla films.
11:10 Scientific fact... that changes every couple of years.
Also, how was the Thing a disappointment? Was it not advertised enough? Its one of the greatest sci-fi horror films ever made, second only to Alien.
John Carpenter is literally one of the very best film directors ever! Any new movie?
How dare you say Vampires was bad. If you can't get a little wood shanking the undead then what kinda society are we living in? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I love his Vampire movie 🧛 . I saw it on video wondering why it wasn't a hit .
Thanks 😀
The creature from the black lagoon could have been great. The video game angle is interesting too I would love it if he could go out on a high note in life for such a legend!
great video and agreed on that creature of the black lagoon, that sounds awesome. i would love to see him direct again and honestly would love him to work with Kurt russell one more time at least
I’d like to see an episode about Stanley Kubrick’s unmade projects, particularly “Napoleon”
Edit: also Terry Gilliam’s, example: “Don Quixote”
Don Quixote got made.
I won't lie. His Black Lagoon remake and Shadow Company are two projects I would love to see.
Note: He is also a Sonic fan, wanna put that out there.
Imagine him adapting the Werehog.
Prey would have been a serious 2000 maniacs.
Considering his love for Howard Hawks, I’m sad he never got a chance to direct a western. Though, it’s understandable why, westerns were dying out when he came on the scene.
I mean, Vampires was kind Of a western 😂
@@leohcarrillo2981 true, I guess I’m saying an old school western with no twist of any sort.
Even if he didn't make an explicit western so many of his movies have very clear western influences that he may just have decided not to. Assauly on precinct 13 is probably the clearest example of "in all but setting this is a western" but the protagonist of They Live is literally a man with no name lol
@@Mitcheck315 😂 fair enough
It's weird how no one mentions his other flick from the 90s called Body Bags.
You should check out Darren aronofsky and Guillermo del Toros unmade projects. There's quite a lot of them.
@James Cartwright he made more than one good movie. PI, Requiem for a dream, The fountain, Black Swan, and the Whale.
@James Cartwright also ive never heard of him having a temper tantrum on set. David O Russell on the other hand is famous for that.
@James Cartwright "overated and not held up" that's your opinion. The reason his Batman year one didn't get made is because the studio wanted a different actor from the one Aronofsky wanted to play Batman, and they a more safe and marketable movie that could sell toys. Aronofsky clashes with producers because at the end of the day hes the one making the film and if it goes poorly, it's all going to be on him.
Never heard of any of these movies, I'll check them out and-
Oh wait
Shadow Company is unquestionably the most interesting of the what-ifs. It was supposed to be the 3rd of his 3-film deal with Shep Gordon that lead to Prince of Darkness and They Live
You forgot the amazing "cigarette burns" from masters of horror
I believe it was Orson Welles that said “People love someone ten years ahead of their time, but despise someone thirty years ahead.”
Love to see you do one on Sam Raimi
You forgot an important tidbit......JOHN LOVES TO SMOKE A LOT OF WEED.
Omg your laugh is so snuggly wuggly cute boy I'm literally shaking
I hope John carpenter directs another horror classic soon…… I think the creature from the black lagoon would be a great comeback film considering he wanted to make the film in the past…. I’m sure universal would allow him to construct it into a classic remake with that John carpenter magic and music to add to the film.