"Downed Tools" UK. to refuse to continue working, especially because you are not satisfied with your pay or working conditions - For those whom are from outside the UK.
It's what the Americans do with there sport debate video's. Using words like that, backlash, outrageous, furious then you watch it and its a guy giving a reasonable opinion. It must be the new youngster thing to do
Guy who is posting all the click bait titles; we love football and you don’t need to draw us in with exaggerated nonsense. You’re better than this or at least you should be
Title doesn't say anything about Neville bigging up Man City's growth or about how good Teves was at United for most of what Gary said.. just about the one negative thing he had to say.
As a United fan I loved Tevez as a player and will always cherish the few years he spent at United. United should have completed his deal that was the mistake made considering what he did for the club.
I know, its strange. This is a guy who spent 6 months playing golf rather than football. As talented as he was, he was a brat too. Fergie didn’t want any of that.
It's not like clubs treat players amazingly and are loyal to players they don't need anymore. You can't fault a player for looking out for their own interests. It's hypocritical for fans to only judge the players.
As a United fan, I didnt feel like the treatment of Tevez was fair at the time. It seemed like no matter what he did (like scoring 4 goals against Blackburn) he would always find himself on the bench the next round. I can understand that he felt disrespected, and can't blame him that much for "downing tools".
Ole never downed tools, that's why he's now a club legend and tevez is back in Argentina and isn't a legend for any team he's been at,juve don't love him like that, united don't, city don't, West Ham don't, a world class player who's ended up being a boca juniors legend due to his attitude
As a Man United fan, I envy the way City is managed and what they have accomplished. It feels like United is still managed in the 20th-century while City is way ahead of us.
Well they're owned by an entire country...who care nothing about profits, the only thing that matters are trophies. Plus the Glazers are just flat out stupid
The modern downfall of Man Utd is down to them losing Tevez and Ronaldo at the same time. They were never a force after that, good but not great. If memory serves me correctly they scored 57 goals between them the year before they left. It’s a lot of goals to replace
And? He won the CL, he was top goal scorer in Italy, England. And he earned a lot of money. And he played for the highest bidder. What's the problem with that?
Radu Savutiu lack of respect. That’s the problem. You can move to city from United, May not be liked, but if you’re respectful it’ll help your image rather than act out of order and spoilt to get your way
@@junaldinho100 not really a traitor. We never signed him permenantly and sir Alex didn't bother offering him a full Time contract until it was to late
I don’t understand Gary Neville because I thought it was common knowledge that United didn’t exercise the clause in Tevez’s contract that’s why he left
Got to agree with what Souness says about East Manchester. The owners have put in a hell of a lot of infrastructure to the area which is refreshing to see
lol west ham are the only club that like tevez. In 06-07 we were dead and buried at the bottom of the league, then Tevez rolled his sleeves up and scored bags of goals at the end of the season and helped us survive on the final day. One of the greatest escapes ever and our best player was tevez.
Theyr'e avoiding bringing up Neville's middle finger to Tevez in the league cup semi after the ear cup celebration. The whole united bench was up in arms abusing Carlos but the media have made sure the photos haven't got out for some reason
The Manchester United team of 2008 is the best club side there has ever been imo (in the premier league) Meanwhile Manchester City were getting battered 8-1 by Middlesbrough. That season the league was one of the strongest too with Chelsea & Arsenal being as strong as they’ve ever been. Those 3 sides finishing within 2 points of each other and not too far behind in 4th a strong Liverpool side
Arsenal really were great that season. They could well have been champions if they didn't buckle in February, a trend that was to continue for years afterwards.
Isn't it a bit concerning that super rich owners are allowed to buy multiple clubs? Why do UEFA allow someone to own more than one European club? It leaves European leagues open to corruption. For example, RB Salzburg v RB Leipzip - there will always be the suspision that Red bull might have skewed the game somehow so their preferred winner went through.
@@denzel1989 It's not right. There should be rules stopping owners buying different clubs even if they can never compete against each other. If say the Liverpool owners bought a club in Portugal which was effectively used as a "feeder" club so Liverpool could send out youngsters and buy the team's talent at knock down prices , it would lessen the integrity of the Portuguese league as one club would be acting in the interests of LFC rather than striving to compete in its own league. Even if RB Leipzig and RB Salzburg are in reality completely separate clubs, there is still a perception that something untoward is going on which in itself devalues the competition.
Why should tevez care about a rivalry between United and City. He is not from the area and did not come up through the ranks. The only rivalry he most likely cares about is Boca and River plate. I never understood why foreign players are held to these standard in regards to loyalty.
@Fury why should kante care? I would care if a player like Abraham who has grown up in the club was born into these rivalries just left for arsenal. But why should a player like tevez who is from half way across the world care about what the mancs think of him.
The Boro team that featured the likes of Rav, Junino, Emerson, Merson, Barmby etc were a delight not just to the Boro faithful but also many neutral fans loved watching us, would be interesting to hear what the professionals of yesteryear thought about that team, we came from outta the darkness to competing against the elite, quality new stadium & constantly sold out, top manager & chairman (Robson & Gibbo) top training facilities, and top stars from the UK and Europe to boot, Rav's hatrick against Liverpool on his debut, beating Chelsea on the opening of the stadium, three cup finals in a year not forgetting the UEFA cup final and how we got there, the last two games to that final having to score 4 goals each game to get through and Massimo getting them both right at the end of the game, lighting striking twice, UTB,
He was more of his attitude then the money but maybe he should've kept him when Ronaldo left and Tevez left as well. We could've been competiting for CL and won more PL if Tevez stayed. Rooney was forced to be the main guy after Ronaldo left it showed how bad our other goal scorers were in 09 10 season. Berbatov at 14 goals that season only until 2010 11 season he was on fire.
Tevez went public when he cupped his ears after scoring and the fans chanted sign himup. That when I knew any deal was fucked. I love fergie but the man is control freak with a massive ego. You go against him in public your gone.
It's pathetic what the Glazer's have done to United. They should never have been allowed to own them to begin with. It's a black eye on the FA, The Premier League & The UK Government to allow the World's greatest sporting entity be acquired like it was. If United were just left alone to run naturally, the past 7 years would have been easily avoided & things would be far better than they are now with football & stadium operations. As long as the Glazers are in charge, Manchester United is operating at a handicap. Not their full potential. PL fears to see United at their best because they don't need a dime of anyone's money! They just need someone to stop stealing all theirs!!!
The club is in a healthy position and they are not dominated by the fact they hare a listed company. Before the Glaziers Utd were subjected to super stringent rules that was strangling the club. Utd could do nothing without the share holders and then the regulators approving things.
@LucasTorreiraisthegoat They dont even play the same position u braindead troll. Welbeck and Walcott in 16/17 were as shite and injury prone as each other so sym
There was the clip of Sir Alex going round the dressing room, shook every players hand and said "proud of you" to everyone apart from Tevez, and after they shook hands Tevez looked at the ground.
tevez explained in an interview that after winning the ucl, saf told him he would speak to his agent in order to buy him for good. but then he never did, and always benched him. the day before the 2009 ucl final, saf promised to finally call his agent for good when the match was over, but by that time, tevez had already decided to move to city
I think it’s more to do with how they evolve as a club. Will they stick to his philosophy, who will they bring in to carry on or change his system/style, will players stick around for the new vision. When you look at Barca post-Pep while they’re still successful they’re a shadow of the Pep era side. Terrible transfers, manager appointments, bottling on the European stage, loss of identity etc.
Rasengan that’s what’ll happen with city if they don’t get his replacement right. Maybe they’ll look at Barcelona and realise that they have to go and get the right manager if they don’t want to end up with inferior players and an aging squad.
@@joshkoh5143 unless city get Poch or somehow Zidane its gonna be a HUGE drop off. Without CL football they may struggle to keep their team anyway. With or without pep...
b1ackv1p3r Ironically wasn’t the season after the best season of Rooneys career though? He absolutely carried United that year if I remember right. I feel sorry for Rooney, spent his whole career getting moved around positions for the good of the team yet still put in world class performances every year, finished as United and England’s all time top scorer and the man still doesn’t get the credit he deserves.
Probably because a lot of people buy into the personality of english players in their over assessment of them. Not that i think rooney is a bad guy, from what I've seen. But he received plenty of abuse from the media and rival fans even as a teenager. Imagine that. His mistake, if you can call it that, was that he didn't conform to keeping quiet nor did he open himself out more until much later in his career. Also, England had a decent amount of club legends in chelsea, liverpool and utd during his time, so it may take some historical distancing until he is fully appreciated.
jason haynes His off field antics definitely never helped his on field legacy, their is probably just as many people who know him as the granny shagging prostitute nuisance than there is a great footballer. But such is life in the fire of the British media. The bigger and better you are the more your looked at watched spied on. Your right there was as he was probably the last of the golden generation, I dare say however that he was better than all of the rest of that generation.
His agent said "how can Neville say this about a player who has won 2 or 3 times more trophies than him" now I don't know how many trophies Tevez has won but 3 × more than Neville 🤔 sounds like a bit of an exaggeration given Gary is one of the most decorated full backs in the history of football.
@@choughed3072 Tevez Trophies Argentina: 5x Primeria Division, 5 cup trophies (not important enough for me to list them) Brazil: 1 campeonato Brasileiro Série A China: Chinese FA Cup England: 3x Premier League, 1 champions league, 1 FA cup, 2x FA community shield, 1 football League Cup, 1 Fifa Club World Cup Italy: 2x Serie A, 1 coppa Italia, 1 supercoppa Italiana Gary Neville Trophies England: 8x Premier League, 2x Champions League, 3x FA Cup, 3x FA Community Shield, 1 Fifa Club World Cup, 1 Intercontinental Cup, 2 Football League Cups. So Tevez has 25 trophies vs Nevilles 20. However the difference in the quality of Trophies is massive. Nevilles premier league titles alone are arguably a bigger deal than everything that Tevez won
I also find it interesting that the agent called Neville a reporter who needs to get the facts before speaking. Does he forget that Neville was the Captain of the dressing room at the time?
Tevez helped us win the Champions league. We signed Berbatov and benched Tevez. That is why we lost the next final to Barca. Our quick counter attack play would have won us 3 straight champions league trophies if we had not signed Berbatov and Benched Tevez. Berbatov was a good player, he is slow and silky but that's not what we needed then. Tevez was right to down tools after how we treated him. He felt unappreciated
Tevez was the Catalyst for City's rise. Had United signed him permanently after the first season, in stead of wasting £30 mill on Berbatov City would never had gotten to the CL and never signed any of the truly great City players (except Kompany who was already there)
He didn't downtools when he went to the real Manchester Club the blue side you know so the team dominating Manchester for the last 7 years and will for the next seven
Neville: Tevez downed tools Souness: yes, a bit like Pogba, what a waste of space, terrible attitude - get rid immediately. What has Pogba won, after all?
Don’t change anything about the stadium, just make it bigger if you must. Old Trafford is a legendary stadium it would be sad to see it change to look like some spaceship
Souness is a Liverpool legend, massive respect, but his hatred towards United really gets in the way of any of his opinions about United. Telling United to ''suck it up'' and subtly showing support for City is pathetic, and below him when his own team are doing so well. United never had to suck it up, the whole point was that this club (City) was non-existent for the better part of the last 50 years and Neville acknowledged their recent rise, so no point for Souness to be so aggressive. Loved Gary's response to the almost-takeover of Liverpool shade Souness threw.United have always fought against anyone with injection of massive cash,like Chelsea, City, etc.
I disagree with Souness around about 8:00 here - when you think about how Starbucks would open stores opposite small coffee shops. Going out of their way to take customers from the opposition by pushing their prices down, so much so that they would run a net loss in that branch until the smaller shop has to shut down and then Starbucks is the only coffee around. It means good coffee is harder to come by. It's not a perfect analogy here but I disagree that strong competition inherently "makes you better".
For Tevez, I would blame it on Sir Alex as he has all the time to sign him on but didnt exercise the rights when he said he would sign up tevez after the champions league final win. When you are a football player and especially Tevez who was owned by a 3rd party, you would be panicking when the club who told you they would sign you on didnt. The other reason was because United signed Berbatov that season and felt the importance of Tevez wasnt that strong anymore.
Very interesting video. Souness doesn't know what he's talking about as usual but other than that you can clearly see from this interview/conversation the unfair advantage that City and Chelsea have had. United earned their riches, they deserved to be on their perch. They were one of the best and therefore one of the most popular clubs. Out of nowhere they get 2 rivals who have no limit whatsoever. Outside money shouldn't be allowed in football IMO. Match day revenue, player sales and sponsors should be it and it should be investigated thoroughly each season. And no, I'm not even a United supporter. I just miss real football where clubs were more than just a brand.
Sky should realize that these names aren't going to make us remember the whole conversation in the long term. Since we're getting, and will continue to get, many such discussions in due course, they should seriously consider naming these videos by the topics being discussed instead. This one, for instance, could have been called "Neville and Souness on Carlos Tevez, Man City, Abu Dhabi ownership"
Rio, Keano, Rooney, Evra...all of them respected Tevez decision at the moment and thought that fergie was on the wrong side of it on this one, also because in their words they knew that he would be a nightmare as rival and worse when he went to City to finally shift the course of that club. It doesn't have a thing to do with Berva's class, but Fergie ruined the chemistry of a champion team and lost an extraordinary player just for trying to get him on the cheap.
City neighbours do have an impact on clubs as a blade I’ve seen this 1st hand Wednesday were the better team in Sheffield for 6 years while we were in league 1. We come up beat them at Hillsborough and both clubs fortunes have drastically changed since we’re pushing for Europe in the prem while they’re mediocre in the championship undoubtedly facing a point deduction that will probably relegate them
United's owners do not give a toss about Manchester. Gary Neville said it that Utd's reach is global and it is. The Glazer's care about the money they can take out of the club. To them, Utd is a vehicle for corporate partnerships and as long as the team does well enough that companies want to be associated with Utd, the owners are happy. Manchester the place is nothing to them.
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Sky sports, we'll still watch your videos without all the ridiculously over the top titles.
@LucasTorreiraisthegoatAre u enjoying the banter party at home?
It’s factual
Yeah I was just coming here to say that, why the adjective in there? This isn’t ladbible
It repeats what he said.
You don't know how TH-cam works buddy
"Downed Tools" UK. to refuse to continue working, especially because you are not satisfied with your pay or working conditions - For those whom are from outside the UK.
David Brielmaier thanks. Was not sure about this either.
Who*
Thank you for explaining! Hero without cape!
Thanks mate
Thanks
‘Brutally’ is the new ‘Heated Debate’
yesterday was "Furious"..............................
😂
it would be funny if people started reporting the title as misleading lol
@LucasTorreiraisthegoat Trolls like u should be off youtube as well
It's what the Americans do with there sport debate video's. Using words like that, backlash, outrageous, furious then you watch it and its a guy giving a reasonable opinion. It must be the new youngster thing to do
Guy who is posting all the click bait titles; we love football and you don’t need to draw us in with exaggerated nonsense. You’re better than this or at least you should be
“brutally” honest assessment
Makes me not sub and stop watching.
Michael Chappas most people need a little control so peeps like me can get on with a free life
Correct until the last sentence
Milomia that’s wasn’t brutal that was a MURDER (always add capitals it helps somehow)
Its Pogbas fault that Tevez left - Grame Souness
ahaha
The black kid from Norway 🇳🇴
@@jaywalkercrew4446 73 likes btw..
The black kid from Norway good one haha
LOL AHAHA
I'm a big Liverpool fan but I totally respect Gary Neville. He's very honest and has a vast amount of knowledge of football. Keep up the good work sky
I think the challenge going forward is to find a pundit that hasn’t got every wall in their house painted grey.
Lee Raynold it’s not going to be easy😀
James Milner's got a tooooiiiilet seat, on his wall! He's got a toilet seat on his wall
Maybe Neville can't see it.
Called modern sleek decor
Lewis Cook hotel room chic
Aah Tevez with his bulldog like approach
Dale Iveson Martin Tyler Fifa
@LucasTorreiraisthegoat RIP ARTETA RIP WENGER
@LucasTorreiraisthegoat If Tevez was crap then what was danny welbeck? Tevez did more at man utd in 3 years than welbeck did in 4 at arsenal
LucasTorreiraisthegoat Kante made Torreira cry in the Europa League Final 😂
LucasTorreiraisthegoat Tevez was not a crap player. Wise up
Title doesn't say anything about Neville bigging up Man City's growth or about how good Teves was at United for most of what Gary said.. just about the one negative thing he had to say.
As a United fan I loved Tevez as a player and will always cherish the few years he spent at United. United should have completed his deal that was the mistake made considering what he did for the club.
A lot of people here defending Tevez, but don’t forget he downed tools at City too... Fergie was right to let him move on.
Stop regurgitating nonsense... Tevez cried leaving United... Ferguson did not want to 30Ms just because of his 3rd party ownership.
@@kingsweattv2465 if he loved fergie and didn't want to leave united so much then why join their local rivals and hold a banner saying "RIP Fergie"?
@@pphyjynx8217 coz he's spun the old yarn.. his agents a craft whooore i will say
I know, its strange. This is a guy who spent 6 months playing golf rather than football. As talented as he was, he was a brat too. Fergie didn’t want any of that.
It's not like clubs treat players amazingly and are loyal to players they don't need anymore.
You can't fault a player for looking out for their own interests. It's hypocritical for fans to only judge the players.
we going to ignore how souness wears his airpods?
Yes
Yes because this comment is on every Souness video so start to ignore it now
He will still blame Pogba
I mean, if you're wearing airpods to begin with...
@@ryancoombs3677 sounds like u watch way too many Souness videos
As a United fan, I didnt feel like the treatment of Tevez was fair at the time. It seemed like no matter what he did (like scoring 4 goals against Blackburn) he would always find himself on the bench the next round. I can understand that he felt disrespected, and can't blame him that much for "downing tools".
Scoring 4 goals against Blackburn? When was this?
Tevez scoring 4 goals in a match for manutd? 🤔
@@Chris-jy3el League Cup in 2008. United won 5-3
@@azhari06 do not remember that! Cheers 😊
Ole never downed tools, that's why he's now a club legend and tevez is back in Argentina and isn't a legend for any team he's been at,juve don't love him like that, united don't, city don't, West Ham don't, a world class player who's ended up being a boca juniors legend due to his attitude
There are a lot of gems in this conversation but sky ran with the click bait
What do you expect on TH-cam
As a Man United fan, I envy the way City is managed and what they have accomplished. It feels like United is still managed in the 20th-century while City is way ahead of us.
Well they're owned by an entire country...who care nothing about profits, the only thing that matters are trophies. Plus the Glazers are just flat out stupid
I hear you
As a great player as Tevez was he had sulking moments elsewhere rather than just at United
I'm gonna guess that Souness somehow links Tevez leaving in disgrace to Pogba...
Fergie neglected Tevez I don't blame him love the guy he got me a UCL never had any bad feelings towards him one of my favourite United players
The fact that Gary said Teves "downed tools" is the least interesting thing in this video
That was so brutal I think I'm going to have to have a lie down.
The modern downfall of Man Utd is down to them losing Tevez and Ronaldo at the same time. They were never a force after that, good but not great.
If memory serves me correctly they scored 57 goals between them the year before they left.
It’s a lot of goals to replace
not much of a rivalry when united fans end up supporting man cities title bid every year these days
Tevez wasn’t loyal at all. Any club he went to he left under a cloud.
Bear all about the entourage, agent and money money money. His time at City was hilarious towards the end...
And? He won the CL, he was top goal scorer in Italy, England. And he earned a lot of money. And he played for the highest bidder. What's the problem with that?
Radu Savutiu lack of respect. That’s the problem. You can move to city from United, May not be liked, but if you’re respectful it’ll help your image rather than act out of order and spoilt to get your way
Why would he be loyal to any of them he's argentine not English
@Scottish he wouldn't..
I remember when Manchester United first signed Tevez, I was so gassed!!
Mustafa Abdullahi Year 10 He’s a traitor but I still won’t forget his contributions to Manchester United.
Mustafa Abdullahi Year 10 I would go where I think would get success too
@@junaldinho100 not really a traitor. We never signed him permenantly and sir Alex didn't bother offering him a full Time contract until it was to late
Mustafa Abdullahi Year 10 an attractive project like that is exciting though. To be apart of a club in building something
lankywang Good point.
I don’t understand Gary Neville because I thought it was common knowledge that United didn’t exercise the clause in Tevez’s contract that’s why he left
Got to agree with what Souness says about East Manchester. The owners have put in a hell of a lot of infrastructure to the area which is refreshing to see
Watch the Netflix series on Tevez life, growing up around drugs, death, lunacy. You cant expect him to be bullied by Man utd, should have paid him.
Bullied?? Talk about having a clue
Gary says the stadium is looking tired. That's an understatement..... It's a SWAMP!
11:47 and that’s the Amanda who is currently brokering the takeover at Newcastle
Gary's a United legend and doing well on sky sports now well done 😎👍🎮
😎😎😎👍👍🎮🎮🎮
Gaming with CallumA are you ok?
I'm good how are u 😎👍🎮
@@JGlais I guess ur a liverpool fan and prefer jamie carragher 😎😎😎👍😄🤫
@@gamingwithcallumA they're both pretty good as pundits tbh
I didn't hear the bit about him sinking a pint of spanners and screwdrivers, when was that?
I have nothing against souness but I can’t stand listening to him, Gary is much better
Souness levels above
Souness wearing his airpods upside down haha!
Pogba should have told him before he joined the call
he done the same thing at west ham it was no suprise it would happen again
Everywhere really. Went golfing at City, asked to leave China early. Not a club he didnt do it at
Once a cheater always a cheat....oh wait
lol west ham are the only club that like tevez. In 06-07 we were dead and buried at the bottom of the league, then Tevez rolled his sleeves up and scored bags of goals at the end of the season and helped us survive on the final day. One of the greatest escapes ever and our best player was tevez.
@@payetsquaddd164 Sheffield United just got triggered lol
He knew he was leaving but still give all at West Ham
Theyr'e avoiding bringing up Neville's middle finger to Tevez in the league cup semi after the ear cup celebration. The whole united bench was up in arms abusing Carlos but the media have made sure the photos haven't got out for some reason
I think that was in the league game at home to Arsenal. 0-0 and we clinched the title that day I believe.
Tevez one of my absolute favorite players since he was playing in Argentina, he played with heart Neville how dare you criticize him
Shut up u mug
No loyalty
Who ever thought that Gary Neville would be the most interesting voice in football. Love listening to him.
The Manchester United team of 2008 is the best club side there has ever been imo (in the premier league) Meanwhile Manchester City were getting battered 8-1 by Middlesbrough. That season the league was one of the strongest too with Chelsea & Arsenal being as strong as they’ve ever been. Those 3 sides finishing within 2 points of each other and not too far behind in 4th a strong Liverpool side
Arsenal really were great that season. They could well have been champions if they didn't buckle in February, a trend that was to continue for years afterwards.
Isn't it a bit concerning that super rich owners are allowed to buy multiple clubs?
Why do UEFA allow someone to own more than one European club? It leaves European leagues open to corruption.
For example, RB Salzburg v RB Leipzip - there will always be the suspision that Red bull might have skewed the game somehow so their preferred winner went through.
A few years back they werent allowed have two clubs owned by the same owner in the same competition
@@denzel1989 That rule is still in the book.
@@ryanchant6861 it got scrapped a year or two ago mate
@@denzel1989 only if they own 50.1% or less of one of the clubs.
@@denzel1989
It's not right.
There should be rules stopping owners buying different clubs even if they can never compete against each other.
If say the Liverpool owners bought a club in Portugal which was effectively used as a "feeder" club so Liverpool could send out youngsters and buy the team's talent at knock down prices , it would lessen the integrity of the Portuguese league as one club would be acting in the interests of LFC rather than striving to compete in its own league.
Even if RB Leipzig and RB Salzburg are in reality completely separate clubs, there is still a perception that something untoward is going on which in itself devalues the competition.
Why should tevez care about a rivalry between United and City. He is not from the area and did not come up through the ranks. The only rivalry he most likely cares about is Boca and River plate. I never understood why foreign players are held to these standard in regards to loyalty.
@Fury why should kante care? I would care if a player like Abraham who has grown up in the club was born into these rivalries just left for arsenal. But why should a player like tevez who is from half way across the world care about what the mancs think of him.
@@burkeycfc5129 Nketiah left chelsea for arsenal
@Full English2308 I personally wouldn't play for rival clubs. just playing devil's advocate
tevez gave us success.gave 100% at manutd respect.very crucial to manutd success
Has Souness got his air pods in upside down??
The Boro team that featured the likes of Rav, Junino, Emerson, Merson, Barmby etc were a delight not just to the Boro faithful but also many neutral fans loved watching us, would be interesting to hear what the professionals of yesteryear thought about that team, we came from outta the darkness to competing against the elite, quality new stadium & constantly sold out, top manager & chairman (Robson & Gibbo) top training facilities, and top stars from the UK and Europe to boot, Rav's hatrick against Liverpool on his debut, beating Chelsea on the opening of the stadium, three cup finals in a year not forgetting the UEFA cup final and how we got there, the last two games to that final having to score 4 goals each game to get through and Massimo getting them both right at the end of the game, lighting striking twice, UTB,
Your first question you get at Sky job interview:
How do you feel about words like "HEATED", "BRUTALLY", "FURIOUS" and "CLASH"?
City pulling out of the Alexis Sanchez deal seems an absolute master stroke
City had definitely re-established temselves before Guardiola though. This is giving Guardiola all the credit where he doesn't really deserve it.
Apparently Ferguson didn’t wanna pay the 20 million for tevez 🙈
Finally somebody telling the truth
He was more of his attitude then the money but maybe he should've kept him when Ronaldo left and Tevez left as well. We could've been competiting for CL and won more PL if Tevez stayed. Rooney was forced to be the main guy after Ronaldo left it showed how bad our other goal scorers were in 09 10 season. Berbatov at 14 goals that season only until 2010 11 season he was on fire.
Tevez went public when he cupped his ears after scoring and the fans chanted sign himup. That when I knew any deal was fucked. I love fergie but the man is control freak with a massive ego. You go against him in public your gone.
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@@mojok7070 I always picked Tevez over Rooney. Fergie should have showed Tevez the respect he deserved. Rooney only good for selling shirts.
Smooth and silky? That's why they are banned from champions League for breaking ffp regulations
Sky Sports killing it with the content right now!!!
Tevez probably felt mugged off when United bought Berbatov and played him instead. Fergie did it to test Tevez's grit, and then rest is history.
It's pathetic what the Glazer's have done to United. They should never have been allowed to own them to begin with. It's a black eye on the FA, The Premier League & The UK Government to allow the World's greatest sporting entity be acquired like it was. If United were just left alone to run naturally, the past 7 years would have been easily avoided & things would be far better than they are now with football & stadium operations. As long as the Glazers are in charge, Manchester United is operating at a handicap. Not their full potential. PL fears to see United at their best because they don't need a dime of anyone's money! They just need someone to stop stealing all theirs!!!
The club is in a healthy position and they are not dominated by the fact they hare a listed company.
Before the Glaziers Utd were subjected to super stringent rules that was strangling the club. Utd could do nothing without the share holders and then the regulators approving things.
@@bighands69 well someone better or someone with a football brain should have bought it.
Tevez wasn’t respected at United
Isn't
He didnt deserve respect. Doesnt have the work ethic of rooney or ronaldo
@LucasTorreiraisthegoat They dont even play the same position u braindead troll. Welbeck and Walcott in 16/17 were as shite and injury prone as each other so sym
LucasTorreiraisthegoat Arsenal are Btec!!!!
There was the clip of Sir Alex going round the dressing room, shook every players hand and said "proud of you" to everyone apart from Tevez, and after they shook hands Tevez looked at the ground.
Can you tell me where it is? I couldn't find.
We need Gary on the United board.
tevez explained in an interview that after winning the ucl, saf told him he would speak to his agent in order to buy him for good. but then he never did, and always benched him. the day before the 2009 ucl final, saf promised to finally call his agent for good when the match was over, but by that time, tevez had already decided to move to city
Brutally? Christ imagine what sky news will call actual brutality when they finally see it
It’ll be interesting to see how city get on when Pep leaves. They’ll have the money still but they won’t have his managerial brilliance.
I think it’s more to do with how they evolve as a club. Will they stick to his philosophy, who will they bring in to carry on or change his system/style, will players stick around for the new vision. When you look at Barca post-Pep while they’re still successful they’re a shadow of the Pep era side. Terrible transfers, manager appointments, bottling on the European stage, loss of identity etc.
I guess the issue is who do you replace him with?
Rasengan that’s what’ll happen with city if they don’t get his replacement right. Maybe they’ll look at Barcelona and realise that they have to go and get the right manager if they don’t want to end up with inferior players and an aging squad.
man city won the pl title with mancini and pellegrini ,i think it wouldnt be that bad when pep leaves
@@joshkoh5143 unless city get Poch or somehow Zidane its gonna be a HUGE drop off. Without CL football they may struggle to keep their team anyway. With or without pep...
Neville spot on as usual. Especially about Old Trafford
We never should’ve let him leave, Rooney almost left because of losing CR7 and Tevez in the same window and not replacing either
b1ackv1p3r Ironically wasn’t the season after the best season of Rooneys career though? He absolutely carried United that year if I remember right.
I feel sorry for Rooney, spent his whole career getting moved around positions for the good of the team yet still put in world class performances every year, finished as United and England’s all time top scorer and the man still doesn’t get the credit he deserves.
Probably because a lot of people buy into the personality of english players in their over assessment of them. Not that i think rooney is a bad guy, from what I've seen. But he received plenty of abuse from the media and rival fans even as a teenager. Imagine that. His mistake, if you can call it that, was that he didn't conform to keeping quiet nor did he open himself out more until much later in his career. Also, England had a decent amount of club legends in chelsea, liverpool and utd during his time, so it may take some historical distancing until he is fully appreciated.
jason haynes His off field antics definitely never helped his on field legacy, their is probably just as many people who know him as the granny shagging prostitute nuisance than there is a great footballer. But such is life in the fire of the British media. The bigger and better you are the more your looked at watched spied on.
Your right there was as he was probably the last of the golden generation, I dare say however that he was better than all of the rest of that generation.
His agent says otherwise lol this could be interesting
like his agent is just come out and agree with Neville? of course he'd stick up for his client...
His agent said "how can Neville say this about a player who has won 2 or 3 times more trophies than him" now I don't know how many trophies Tevez has won but 3 × more than Neville 🤔 sounds like a bit of an exaggeration given Gary is one of the most decorated full backs in the history of football.
@@choughed3072
Tevez Trophies
Argentina:
5x Primeria Division, 5 cup trophies (not important enough for me to list them)
Brazil:
1 campeonato Brasileiro Série A
China:
Chinese FA Cup
England:
3x Premier League, 1 champions league, 1 FA cup, 2x FA community shield, 1 football League Cup, 1 Fifa Club World Cup
Italy:
2x Serie A, 1 coppa Italia, 1 supercoppa Italiana
Gary Neville Trophies
England:
8x Premier League, 2x Champions League, 3x FA Cup, 3x FA Community Shield, 1 Fifa Club World Cup, 1 Intercontinental Cup, 2 Football League Cups.
So Tevez has 25 trophies vs Nevilles 20. However the difference in the quality of Trophies is massive. Nevilles premier league titles alone are arguably a bigger deal than everything that Tevez won
I also find it interesting that the agent called Neville a reporter who needs to get the facts before speaking. Does he forget that Neville was the Captain of the dressing room at the time?
@@smoothcheeky8910 lol
Who was that old fella on the interview the scotchy?
Sky TH-cam uploader now frantically looking in the dictionary for a new and more brutally exaggerated click bait word....
Still no Roy keane vid. We know exists but was never uploaded
he is right about the "sort of career" statement
Gary Neville’s orchids are really flourishing in the background
Tevez helped us win the Champions league. We signed Berbatov and benched Tevez. That is why we lost the next final to Barca. Our quick counter attack play would have won us 3 straight champions league trophies if we had not signed Berbatov and Benched Tevez. Berbatov was a good player, he is slow and silky but that's not what we needed then. Tevez was right to down tools after how we treated him. He felt unappreciated
Van nistelrooy didn't like gary Neville had bust ups with rio and cr7 and disrespected fergie but was still considered a great 🤷🏽♂️
Neville won't admit it but Ferguson made a colossal blunder by dropping Tevez for Berbatov.
Yeah, Berbatov is a class act but disrupting that scary fast front three was a mistake.
Tevez was the Catalyst for City's rise. Had United signed him permanently after the first season, in stead of wasting £30 mill on Berbatov City would never had gotten to the CL and never signed any of the truly great City players (except Kompany who was already there)
Souness' right airpod - the right way to wear it
He didn't downtools when he went to the real Manchester Club the blue side you know so the team dominating Manchester for the last 7 years and will for the next seven
Neville: Tevez downed tools
Souness: yes, a bit like Pogba, what a waste of space, terrible attitude - get rid immediately. What has Pogba won, after all?
Don’t change anything about the stadium, just make it bigger if you must. Old Trafford is a legendary stadium it would be sad to see it change to look like some spaceship
Souness looks like he has green screened in an Air B&B house.
Gary you’re a top fella mate. Honest and genuine. 👍
"I love Mané, Salah and Firmino to bits" - Gary Neville
What an incredible pile of humongous horseshit......😃
I think he means in terms of their quality lol.
John Cronin tbh Gary always speaks highly of that front 3.
Souness is a Liverpool legend, massive respect, but his hatred towards United really gets in the way of any of his opinions about United. Telling United to ''suck it up'' and subtly showing support for City is pathetic, and below him when his own team are doing so well. United never had to suck it up, the whole point was that this club (City) was non-existent for the better part of the last 50 years and Neville acknowledged their recent rise, so no point for Souness to be so aggressive. Loved Gary's response to the almost-takeover of Liverpool shade Souness threw.United have always fought against anyone with injection of massive cash,like Chelsea, City, etc.
Graeme seems angry. Graeme still hates Manchester United. Graeme seems lonely.
Souness looking like he lives in a palace.
he does, they all do
So Gary talks about front three
2007/8 Ronaldo 42 Rooney 18 Tevez 19
2017/18 Salah 44 Firmino 27 Mane 20
Out of this world?
@Full English2308 he just said they were better than this Liverpool front three which is not true...
@Full English2308 explain how? Salah has set pl goal record and they had more goals? Wtf is wrong with you
Rade Fustar Last I checked, United's front 3 won lots of trophies, Liverpool's beat a broken Tottenham and bottled against Real. World class btw.
Not everything is goals...
@@H1JOSH1 for the attckers yes it is.
I disagree with Souness around about 8:00 here - when you think about how Starbucks would open stores opposite small coffee shops. Going out of their way to take customers from the opposition by pushing their prices down, so much so that they would run a net loss in that branch until the smaller shop has to shut down and then Starbucks is the only coffee around.
It means good coffee is harder to come by. It's not a perfect analogy here but I disagree that strong competition inherently "makes you better".
For Tevez, I would blame it on Sir Alex as he has all the time to sign him on but didnt exercise the rights when he said he would sign up tevez after the champions league final win. When you are a football player and especially Tevez who was owned by a 3rd party, you would be panicking when the club who told you they would sign you on didnt. The other reason was because United signed Berbatov that season and felt the importance of Tevez wasnt that strong anymore.
I'm assuming the 'Amanda' Souness is referring to is Amanda Staveley, who is spearheading the takeover of Newcastle United?
Souness with the earphones all the way in, upside down
Of course Souness wears his Airpods upside down and back to front
Nobody has the balls to tell him.
Sergio Aguero is a Legend. Arsenal fan here.
Very interesting video. Souness doesn't know what he's talking about as usual but other than that you can clearly see from this interview/conversation the unfair advantage that City and Chelsea have had. United earned their riches, they deserved to be on their perch. They were one of the best and therefore one of the most popular clubs. Out of nowhere they get 2 rivals who have no limit whatsoever. Outside money shouldn't be allowed in football IMO. Match day revenue, player sales and sponsors should be it and it should be investigated thoroughly each season.
And no, I'm not even a United supporter. I just miss real football where clubs were more than just a brand.
Didnt know Tevez was a tradesman.
Souness is not the bloke to ask about rivalries with his track history. If you know, you know 😅😅🇹🇷
I don't know which transfer is more infamous, Sol Campbell or Carlos Tevez? 🤔
Noe Donis Both infamous but nowt will ever top Sol Campbell
Van Persie to man utd🛑
@@joikabolle1806 that snake's transfer to Man United is up there, I'll give you that 🐍
Campbell’s, seeing as he was a part of the invincibles team that clinched the title at WHL.
@@noedonis666 did u ever read into why he left? Besides leaving for Manutd, he always respected arsenal
Bergkamp Pires henry at their peak sligthly better than the ronaldo tevez rooney combo perhaps
Are you out of your sense?
Sky should realize that these names aren't going to make us remember the whole conversation in the long term. Since we're getting, and will continue to get, many such discussions in due course, they should seriously consider naming these videos by the topics being discussed instead. This one, for instance, could have been called "Neville and Souness on Carlos Tevez, Man City, Abu Dhabi ownership"
Rio, Keano, Rooney, Evra...all of them respected Tevez decision at the moment and thought that fergie was on the wrong side of it on this one, also because in their words they knew that he would be a nightmare as rival and worse when he went to City to finally shift the course of that club.
It doesn't have a thing to do with Berva's class, but Fergie ruined the chemistry of a champion team and lost an extraordinary player just for trying to get him on the cheap.
Tevez always put in a shift for United. The problem was he had too many people advising him off the pitch.
Maybe because they didn't wanna give him a proper deal instead of a 2 year loan??
‘She tried to get them to Liverpool, but Pogba’s performances for United are so bad, they went to City.’
City neighbours do have an impact on clubs as a blade I’ve seen this 1st hand Wednesday were the better team in Sheffield for 6 years while we were in league 1. We come up beat them at Hillsborough and both clubs fortunes have drastically changed since we’re pushing for Europe in the prem while they’re mediocre in the championship undoubtedly facing a point deduction that will probably relegate them
Why have the comments moved? Way worse like this !
United's owners do not give a toss about Manchester. Gary Neville said it that Utd's reach is global and it is. The Glazer's care about the money they can take out of the club. To them, Utd is a vehicle for corporate partnerships and as long as the team does well enough that companies want to be associated with Utd, the owners are happy. Manchester the place is nothing to them.