I sailed in a Traditional Hawaiian Sailing Program in Highschool and can 100% validate the accuracy of this video.... Well done 👍🏽! Makes me proud to be a Polynesian.
The Polynesians were such courageous, knowledgable navigators. In the Marshall Islands, wooden maps have been found showing ocean current locations in relationship to islands. Unmatched skill. Great video!
@Fuck Stevejobs Europeans divided everyone in the pacific. Not alot of marshallese want associate with micronesia, polynesia, and melanesia because those are european terms.
If anyone was curious, the westerners learning from the Micronesians were the Hokulea crew from Hawai'i. With the knowledge they learned, they brought it back to Hawai'i and launched a cultural renaissance in the Pacific Islands by sailing around the world in traditional canoes with traditional methods.
Pius 'Mau' Piailug is his name, the Micronesian navigator who is sadly no longer with us. Lucky he still carried on the knowledge of navigating the ocean using traditional methods and passed it on to the Polynesians who lost that art after the Europeans arrived.
I am from the Titan tribe of Manus Island in Papua New Guinea (Melanasia). My ancestors are some of the great seafarers and build huge canoes that can carry up to 50 people. They travel long distance and canoe is their home at sea. They use the stars, the sun, the moon, the big waves, the seagulls to plot their chart. Today we have descendants of some of our people in Yap Island in Micronesia.
They are navigators bro.papa mau was from outer island of yap who language are similar to chuuk langauge.myself from the lagoons of chuuk I cam understand mau like he speaking chuukese.
I am in awe. So impressed. Just goes to show you, Europe and Asia do not have a monopoly on great human discovery and mastery of certain skills. Wonderful video.
U have to remember that colonization had a big part to play as in why this navigational method was not passed on because our ancestors were forced to stop all of their way of living cultural & traditional practices, to take on the Papa'a/Palangi (Foreigner) way of life otherwised they were punished especially with missionaries & their religion, the missionaries would label us condemned to Hell or demonic worshippers, only their God & Religion & way of life is right and that we must learn to work be servants of their Brittish Royal empire.
Great video I see comments on Melanesia Polynesian Micronesian Is all one with Te Moana We are all one people in Te Moana nui a kiwa not separated by Te Moana but once connected by it One Pacifica tge white man called us these names to separate and segregate us from each other
Even after the europeans discovered the pacific people's multi hull design it STILL took them another few hundred years to figure out it was better. Only in the last couple of decades are live aboards all switching to catamarans.
Being a Decendant of Fafaki Tahi ( The Tongan Blind Navigator ) this makes me Proud the world is finally finding out who the Real Navigators were!!! 🇹🇴🇹🇴🇹🇴
Nice analysis bro. One thing I would correct is that "fear" drove or forced us to travel the seas because in fact we see the ocean as our Ancestor, so there was no fear, we know we descend directly from nature and creation itself which is why we had that knowledge of navigation using the skies in the first instance. We feared nothing, not even death as we knew we transcended to the non physical intangible realms where we came from to return the the energies of our Ancestors when we leave our physical bodies anyway. We view & respect our natural environment as our esteemed elders & looked to them for guidance in all aspects of life because we were fully connected physically mentally and spiritually. & no offence, but everything indigenous peoples knew is literally direct evidence that a humanoid god in a white robe did not create everything in existence lol
Why do you speak as if you knew this from personal experience? no offence, but the crap you just spewed came straight out of your muli. Where did you dream that trash up?
Maybe not a humanoid god in a white robe but interestingly, many indigenous groups around the world, believe in an ultimate Creator of sorts. One entity above all others. The only difference is...the demi gods seem to have just as much relevance in their worship.
I’ve Saul across the Pacific From Hawaii. It difficult to land south of Oregon. HI East to OR, long but prevailing route. SoCal West to HI fast and easy.
The area was known as Manu'a tele not Oceania... that is what Europeans called it ! Facts ! And the technology is not from the stoneage it is of modern age . Facts !
The ultimatum of Polynesian Celestial and hydrologic navigation is to become the instruments of the firmament called moina Avai,,,container of water, reference to Pacific Ocean. To acquire and possess the talent come from over 40 yrs of training leading to the tittle of navigator,,,Rangatira,,,ranga= to weave,,,,tira = direction or bearings...to reach the highest is call ,,,one have recieved the MANA, super conductive to the planet.magnetic senses....
You have to keep in mind that it's not hard to find a volcanic island when it is erupting. The smoke plume tells everyone for miles exactly where the island is located. I'm not devaluing the incredible navigating ability, I'm just saying the statistic improbability of finding Hawaii or Easter Island gets way easier when you have a huge beacon telling you exactly where it's located. People never seem to consider this extremely obvious fact in these videos. You also forgot to mention that they used their testacles laid along the bottom of the boat to sense the most slight changes in conditions. Good video I enjoyed watching.
Miles huh? Wow.... just curious as to what % of the Polynesian Islands do you think have active volcanoes? And for how many miles can you 'see' the plume from Kiluea?
It is documented how they knew the cloud movement and cloud patterns (and also land reflections in clouds??) for islands with volcanoes and mountains. I even think I have seen videos in TH-cam talk about it.
People have traveled to Antarctica and found reminisce of large canoes and the wood was made from wood only found on mainland New Zealand and carving it's been lost in history but they were their at some point along their travels
Having Austronesian connection..doesn't always equate to someone always having any Polynesian lineage..Polynesians were the ones who sailed the longer vast seas of the Pacific..Not all Austronesian ancestors did..
@@sillau9The first true ocean-going canoes were invented by the Austronesians. Seafaring and wayfinding is an Austronesian tradition, and is still practiced by Austronesian people in maritine southeast asia today. You Polynesian didnt invent shit, not even your tattoos, thats Austronesian too.
@AMM0beatz oh shut up😂🙄🤦🏻♀️..I'm not talking about the first ever canoe shit..early Austronesians had the knowledge & will to travel & sail/migrate to the next destination🙌🏼, but they had smaller distances compared to the ocean distance travel Polynesians had to endure & survive thru & occupy..it was Polynesians who were the ones who did the LONGER voyages/distances of the vast Pacific Ocean..ofcourse am grateful and love my Austronesian ancestors for their knowledge(for every Polynesian has Austronesian..even tho not every Austronesian has Polynesian tho🤭🤷🏻♀️)..but you are not realizing that I'm specifically talking about the code Polynesians had to crack to figure out how to survive & endure really longer voyages, ocean currents, limited food/supply,etc. til if when they find land.
@@AMM0beatz The word Tattoo is derived from the Polynesian word tatau, white American sailors discovered tattoos from Polynesia not any other austronesian place. That’s why Polynesian tattoos are more popular than those weird reptile scale tattoos y’all got. Also don’t talk about inventing sailing technology if you didn’t sail nowhere
We are Pasifika - the Europeans gave us those names polynesian,micronesian,melanesian to differentiate us pasifika - so essentially we are all related - family 😅
if they were that good at sailing they would have been very good at trading and conducting business with other people groups they've encountered as well
They were that GOOD at sailing, the Pacific Ocean is the biggest ocean in the world and 1/3 of its surface PERIODT. Go somewhere else with that Hating ass bullish-t smh
I will say it again Polynesians were traveling near and around Antarctica before Europeans were even able to wipe their own ass and Russians could even pick their nose so do some research people
Earlier you said “reminisce” of canoes had been found in antarctica, and now you say “near and around”. So which is it? Before you get carried away, I recommend you read the article “Fact or fantasy? The battle over the Polynesian Antarctica discovery” published in “stuff” news. Polynesians reached enderby island south of nz in the 1200s AD, and may well have seen sea ice as it drifts as far north as nz. But there is no evidence of Polynesians reaching antarctica. You are making it up.
@@KnightxWulfx If you’re a Filipino today, that means your ancestors stayed in the Philippines because they was too scared to sail any further. That’s why y’all try to label the Polynesian navigation as “austronesian” since y’all have no sailing feats of your own. You guys are a Chinese and Spanish mixed people 🤡
I sailed in a Traditional Hawaiian Sailing Program in Highschool and can 100% validate the accuracy of this video.... Well done 👍🏽! Makes me proud to be a Polynesian.
I'm excited to hear that programs like this exist! Did you ever have the opportunity to sail beyond line of site with traditional methods?
The Polynesians were such courageous, knowledgable navigators. In the Marshall Islands, wooden maps have been found showing ocean current locations in relationship to islands. Unmatched skill. Great video!
Too bad Marshall Islands isn’t in Polynesia but instead MICROnesia but nonetheless they are one of the best and fastest in the Pacific
@Fuck Stevejobs Europeans divided everyone in the pacific. Not alot of marshallese want associate with micronesia, polynesia, and melanesia because those are european terms.
Not just Polynesian. Micronesia and melanesia too
Aren't the Marshall Islands micronesians?
@@microlabs446 I didn’t say anything wrong, Marshall Islands IS in Micronesia. I didn’t say FSM
If anyone was curious, the westerners learning from the Micronesians were the Hokulea crew from Hawai'i. With the knowledge they learned, they brought it back to Hawai'i and launched a cultural renaissance in the Pacific Islands by sailing around the world in traditional canoes with traditional methods.
Yes the knowledge of papa mau lives on through his students who are now masters
Pius 'Mau' Piailug is his name, the Micronesian navigator who is sadly no longer with us. Lucky he still carried on the knowledge of navigating the ocean using traditional methods and passed it on to the Polynesians who lost that art after the Europeans arrived.
But they kanakas not westerners .they islanders not westerners tho.
I am from the Titan tribe of Manus Island in Papua New Guinea (Melanasia). My ancestors are some of the great seafarers and build huge canoes that can carry up to 50 people. They travel long distance and canoe is their home at sea. They use the stars, the sun, the moon, the big waves, the seagulls to plot their chart. Today we have descendants of some of our people in Yap Island in Micronesia.
@Nagin-zt6scI’m from Guam and thought Palauans had a lot of PNG features.
@Nagin-zt6sc dope, they are cool peoples.
They are navigators bro.papa mau was from outer island of yap who language are similar to chuuk langauge.myself from the lagoons of chuuk I cam understand mau like he speaking chuukese.
I am in awe. So impressed. Just goes to show you, Europe and Asia do not have a monopoly on great human discovery and mastery of certain skills. Wonderful video.
They never did. Just manipulated history to suggest they did
Western scientist can never😂
Awesome video dude as a Polynesian (Samoan, Cook Island, Tahitian) I learnt a lot more in this vid than I did growing up 😂.
Only useless cunts get this information off other races
U have to remember that colonization had a big part to play as in why this navigational method was not passed on because our ancestors were forced to stop all of their way of living cultural & traditional practices, to take on the Papa'a/Palangi (Foreigner) way of life otherwised they were punished especially with missionaries & their religion, the missionaries would label us condemned to Hell or demonic worshippers, only their God & Religion & way of life is right and that we must learn to work be servants of their Brittish Royal empire.
C clair ❤😂
Just incredible 😮 absolutely incredible.
Great video
I see comments on Melanesia Polynesian Micronesian
Is all one with Te Moana
We are all one people in Te Moana nui a kiwa not separated by Te Moana but once connected by it
One Pacifica tge white man called us these names to separate and segregate us from each other
One people
We are the caretakers of the largest Moana in th3 🌎
They navigated using the stars 🌟
I am so proud being Māori. Yes these stories were handed down to us. Even when we left east polynesia
Takitimu ?
Even after the europeans discovered the pacific people's multi hull design it STILL took them another few hundred years to figure out it was better. Only in the last couple of decades are live aboards all switching to catamarans.
Beautiful video. A story, well told. We sometimes lose track of our spiritual connection to the universe. Thank you for remembering us.
The narrative from 8.30min onwards was very inspiring
I love your work Ali! Keep doing what you do!
a lot of times they were actually sailing against the trade winds of the tropical and subtropical latitudes
A full video on the Austronesian expansion would be a good topic to cover
Beautiful video, it felt like time itself paused while I was watching this. Thank you for sharing our story in a respectful and deep Light !
Do not forgot the old ways. Learn them and pass them on. The future of humanity may well have to rely on them.
Fascinating!
Wow you went deep, beautiful video. Mahalo
"Over the centuries they devised a chart". They actually never had charts, or even a written language. Directions were remembered in song.
Absolutely fascinating! 🤩💖
James cooked used the navigators to map out the pacific then colonized the pacific ....tatics
Then on February 14th in the 1800s them Hawaiians killed and ate him:) good on them
@@M.BMABAMA 1779 not 1800's and Cook wasn't the problem , the people who came after Cook were.
So Hawaiians are cannibals?😂😂
@@vonoiteuo cannibal is a European term ..most islands used cannibalism as a sign of disrespect not really for food
@mastarpeace2427 ohh OK just to let them know DONT FUCK WITH US🤣🤙
thank you
You’re welcome Behzad. God bless
Being a Decendant of Fafaki Tahi ( The Tongan Blind Navigator ) this makes me Proud the world is finally finding out who the Real Navigators were!!! 🇹🇴🇹🇴🇹🇴
Real? Dude all nationalities hit the ocean at some point in their history unsuspecting of any other race having done so
Damn bro so he gotta be the ear n smell navigator😂
He said storage , my bro we invented the double hull sail boats, the boats you now call Catamaran, make us appear dumb
Thank you!
Love this
great video
Nice analysis bro. One thing I would correct is that "fear" drove or forced us to travel the seas because in fact we see the ocean as our Ancestor, so there was no fear, we know we descend directly from nature and creation itself which is why we had that knowledge of navigation using the skies in the first instance. We feared nothing, not even death as we knew we transcended to the non physical intangible realms where we came from to return the the energies of our Ancestors when we leave our physical bodies anyway. We view & respect our natural environment as our esteemed elders & looked to them for guidance in all aspects of life because we were fully connected physically mentally and spiritually. & no offence, but everything indigenous peoples knew is literally direct evidence that a humanoid god in a white robe did not create everything in existence lol
Why do you speak as if you knew this from personal experience? no offence, but the crap you just spewed came straight out of your muli. Where did you dream that trash up?
Maybe not a humanoid god in a white robe but interestingly, many indigenous groups around the world, believe in an ultimate Creator of sorts. One entity above all others.
The only difference is...the demi gods seem to have just as much relevance in their worship.
But yes....I agree with everything you said
Awesome video Ali!
Thank you Marie!
This was fascinating.
Mastery is a great book. I see you read directly from it. Great video nonetheless.
Samoa baby!
Thc man very powerful
This is how we will navigate space travel
I’ve Saul across the Pacific From Hawaii. It difficult to land south of Oregon. HI East to OR, long but prevailing route. SoCal West to HI fast and easy.
Lovett
“Taera”
How does it derive for anyone curious in this space.
The area was known as Manu'a tele not Oceania... that is what Europeans called it ! Facts !
And the technology is not from the stoneage it is of modern age . Facts !
You Samoans need to knock it off, no other Polynesians called it that
😂😂😂uce crazy 😂😂😂
Could you do a video on the Carribean and South America?
why have you got nz in a different colour as they are also part of polynesia????
The ultimatum of Polynesian Celestial and hydrologic navigation is to become the instruments of the firmament called moina Avai,,,container of water, reference to Pacific Ocean. To acquire and possess the talent come from over 40 yrs of training leading to the tittle of navigator,,,Rangatira,,,ranga= to weave,,,,tira = direction or bearings...to reach the highest is call ,,,one have recieved the MANA, super conductive to the planet.magnetic senses....
Poly Mela Micro are juat build different
Pourriez vous mettre la traduction en français quelle frustration de ne pas comprendre
yeah.. 'tanja' sail.. my nation traditional headgear
💀idk about other Islanders but where im from some of us do
You have to keep in mind that it's not hard to find a volcanic island when it is erupting. The smoke plume tells everyone for miles exactly where the island is located. I'm not devaluing the incredible navigating ability, I'm just saying the statistic improbability of finding Hawaii or Easter Island gets way easier when you have a huge beacon telling you exactly where it's located. People never seem to consider this extremely obvious fact in these videos. You also forgot to mention that they used their testacles laid along the bottom of the boat to sense the most slight changes in conditions. Good video I enjoyed watching.
Miles huh? Wow.... just curious as to what % of the Polynesian Islands do you think have active volcanoes? And for how many miles can you 'see' the plume from Kiluea?
It is documented how they knew the cloud movement and cloud patterns (and also land reflections in clouds??) for islands with volcanoes and mountains. I even think I have seen videos in TH-cam talk about it.
Yea because erupting Volcanoes was a weekly occurrence huh?
Westerner scientist can never 😂
beautiful! By "economic factors", you meant crypto. haha.
People have traveled to Antarctica and found reminisce of large canoes and the wood was made from wood only found on mainland New Zealand and carving it's been lost in history but they were their at some point along their travels
definitely not. you are making this up.
@@eeeaten your just uneducated is all
@@eeeatenlet me guess your American
@@eeeaten you would know this if you were properly educated but go figure your not so maybe before you give your opinion do some research 🥶👍
@@Fkn_Sendit365 so.. you have an information source that says canoes were found in antarctica?
MāriTime, remove the O.
Proud to be an Austronesian descendant
Having Austronesian connection..doesn't always equate to someone always having any Polynesian lineage..Polynesians were the ones who sailed the longer vast seas of the Pacific..Not all Austronesian ancestors did..
Im Kanaka maoli with close relatives from Rapa Nui and Aotearoa and I acknowledge my austronesian ancestors for without them we would not be.
@@sillau9The first true ocean-going canoes were invented by the Austronesians. Seafaring and wayfinding is an Austronesian tradition, and is still practiced by Austronesian people in maritine southeast asia today. You Polynesian didnt invent shit, not even your tattoos, thats Austronesian too.
@AMM0beatz oh shut up😂🙄🤦🏻♀️..I'm not talking about the first ever canoe shit..early Austronesians had the knowledge & will to travel & sail/migrate to the next destination🙌🏼, but they had smaller distances compared to the ocean distance travel Polynesians had to endure & survive thru & occupy..it was Polynesians who were the ones who did the LONGER voyages/distances of the vast Pacific Ocean..ofcourse am grateful and love my Austronesian ancestors for their knowledge(for every Polynesian has Austronesian..even tho not every Austronesian has Polynesian tho🤭🤷🏻♀️)..but you are not realizing that I'm specifically talking about the code Polynesians had to crack to figure out how to survive & endure really longer voyages, ocean currents, limited food/supply,etc. til if when they find land.
@@AMM0beatz The word Tattoo is derived from the Polynesian word tatau, white American sailors discovered tattoos from Polynesia not any other austronesian place. That’s why Polynesian tattoos are more popular than those weird reptile scale tattoos y’all got. Also don’t talk about inventing sailing technology if you didn’t sail nowhere
Papa Mau put polys on the map 🗺️ and he ain’t even Polynesian 😂😂😂
We are Pasifika - the Europeans gave us those names polynesian,micronesian,melanesian to differentiate us pasifika - so essentially we are all related - family 😅
We all share the same austronesian ancestors
It’s okay, you Micronesians are the most irrelevant Pacific Islanders so I understand the hate
M'du er tir me bo el lodengei! Haha
Come on bro.he did it to connect us all again.
We the austronesian people connected by water in the current of our ancestors.
Polynesians aren’t austronesians y’all so uneducated, Polynesians are far more evolved than them.
"Aboard" not "abroad" a vessel. Whi is this narrator?
Who are you
if they were that good at sailing they would have been very good at trading and conducting business with other people groups they've encountered as well
They were that GOOD at sailing, the Pacific Ocean is the biggest ocean in the world and 1/3 of its surface PERIODT. Go somewhere else with that Hating ass bullish-t smh
This power starts with afrika and is not yor story to tell
ya what
Shaddap Africa has nothing to do w this 😂
African can't even build canoes nor navigate😂😂😂
Ancient FIlipinos Invented the outrigger and can feel the water undercurrent by means of their lower organ
Ancient Filipinos are Southeast Asian, WE are not the same #PolynesianOutriggers
@@Kava650 ok Lima Lima
@@risingflagtv409 MataUsi 👍🏽
@@Kava650 Everybody hatin on Filipino's lol, Polys wouldnt have existed without Austronesian influence of Taiwanese and Filipino ancestors. smh
Facts
Can i please ask not to call our kanaka brothers weterners please .lol
the same stars that our ancestors used are still above us now, makes me question the Globe.
lol why would you question the globe? where do you think the stars are going when they move?
I went to maritime school and sailed the Pacific. I also begin to question
I will say it again Polynesians were traveling near and around Antarctica before Europeans were even able to wipe their own ass and Russians could even pick their nose so do some research people
Earlier you said “reminisce” of canoes had been found in antarctica, and now you say “near and around”. So which is it? Before you get carried away, I recommend you read the article “Fact or fantasy? The battle over the Polynesian Antarctica discovery” published in “stuff” news. Polynesians reached enderby island south of nz in the 1200s AD, and may well have seen sea ice as it drifts as far north as nz. But there is no evidence of Polynesians reaching antarctica. You are making it up.
Filipinos and Austronesians
@@KnightxWulfx try sentences
@@KnightxWulfx If you’re a Filipino today, that means your ancestors stayed in the Philippines because they was too scared to sail any further. That’s why y’all try to label the Polynesian navigation as “austronesian” since y’all have no sailing feats of your own. You guys are a Chinese and Spanish mixed people 🤡