Sony needs little advertising. It's a huge brand worldwide. Where were you every past gen. Sony makes a announcement and the internet explodes with vids from fanboys on every side.... Sony thanks all the PC and Xbox tubers every gen for advertising their consoles😂😂😂
While it is cool for newcomers or superfans, I think I'll do the same as I did with the ps4, wait for ps6 and enjoy all of the upgrades from pro on next generation. I remember getting 60fps on final fantasy xv and 4k 60 on rise of the tomb raider which were not possible originally on pro.
Fact is all of this game engines are made in the PS4 era so I hope they make a new one specifically coded for PS5 we still didn't see any mind blowing games instead we get remasters/remake using old but scaled game engines.
Spiderman 2 is definitely mind blowing from a graphical and rendering pov. The draw distance is literally insane, the speed of traversal is huge and there's no pop in or any issue. Graphics are one of the best i have ever seen as well
Great video guys. Also on a side note the quality of Ollie’s camera set up is superb, what camera/ lens are you using? Even the colour saturation is 👌🏼 do you use any particular setting in this regard?
Yea I got the slim because of the new look that I personally like way more than the fat and the smaller size. Only way i get a pro is if gta6 cant run 60fps on the slim. Which im actually thinking it will but obviously have that pro mode on the pro
Honestly, the primary game I want to see run on the Pro is RoboCop: Rogue City. On my 5th play through (yeah... I know...) and I feel like it would really benefit from the new specs because, outside of the humans, the game looked fantastic anyway, but it's nearly impossible to play in the 30fps mode.
Basically the pro console with all the new stuff is a preparation for Playstation 6 and getting Devs ready for the future console, thats it .. future of 4k and 60 fps with top notch ray tracing and seems it will be great, i just hope we get more great games, gg !
@@jollamaTwo different things, you should know that considering your major lol, I’m a computer scientist and even I know those are two different things lol
je garde ma ps5 standard a 8k 120fps oui !! c'est bien écrie sur la boite je vois pas de différence avec cette pro qui fait 4k 60fps AH !! la puissance de la pro c'est 799€ de base si on veut plus de performance il faut rajouter 120€ et 30€ (lecteur et socle) = 950€ là !! c'est le feux 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Instead of pushing out an update that let us enable PSSR on the normal or slim PS5 to get more fps with no extra fees, they decided to make an upscaler exclusive to a 700$ paperweight and want us to buy it because "oh hey, the Pro will run games 2x better because it have a massive crutch against the original console on top of the upgraded hardware, we are just asking for 700$, and btw, no disc drive included". At times like this, im so glad i have my PC. Locking a graphics setting behind an entirely new console is a new low.
They can’t just enable PSSR on older consoles. The tech doesn’t exist in the system. You just said you have a PC. Ever realize that you can only use DLSS and Frame Gen on certain series of cards? Say you don’t know what you’re talking about without saying you don’t know what you’re talking about.
I don't understand why Spider-man 2 doesn't look as good as Spider-man Miles Morales. Will Spider-man 2 look as good as Miles Morales on PS5 Pro at 60fps? Or is the performance Pro mode the fidelity mode on the PS5 but at 60fps, with added PSSR? The game that impressed me the most on PS5 Pro was F1 24. That looks like a generational leap compared to the PS5 version.
Can someone answer this for me: Would a ps5 pro using PSSR combined with a 1440p monitor potentially result in WORSE quality than simply using the base ps5? In other words PSSR taking things from say 1440 and then ai upsampling to 4k but then having to downscale to 1440p again as output? Apologies if Im taking nonsense but figured it might be worth asking and I know the type of ppl in these comment sections would have the knowledge! I really want a ps5 pro but not if there's any chance quality might be degraded because of my monitor choice. Thanks again.
I bought PS5 Pro and I have an OLED. In your case I would say it will not be worse, but certainly, for some specific cases it will be a waste of resources.
Nah in fact PC users use this all the time (1080p upscaled to 4K then downscaling it into 1080p or 1440p) Digital Foundry made a test in their video using Nvidia DLDSR. And they also tested it in Resident evil 4 remake dlss mod where 1080p upscaled to 4k then downscaling it to 1440p provide better image and perform quality using dlss+DLDSR and Red dead redemption 2 and Alan wake 2 community loved this features cause they can use 4K ultra performance mode dlss into 1080p screen and provide better image quality (720p to 4k then back to 1080p)
Crazy that people are willing to pay $700 for a minimal visual upgrade. These minimal upgrades is something I noticed happening quite a bit in the PC space. I’m just a bit disappointed that PlayStation is doing it pretty similar, if not worse.
What I don't really get is this. Most of these Sony 1st party titles already have unlocked VRR on all modes, right? While having a separate Pro mode for 60Hz displays makes sense since you were either locked at 30 or 60 fps before, why would I use the Pro modes on a 120Hz VRR display? Why shouldn t I just use the original Fidelity mode with unlocked VRR and just brute force my way to 60fps or even higher?
Good point, but I’m sure it has a lot to do with Ray tracing and how that’s implemented better than the original Fidelity mode me personally I prefer a native 4K 60 or 120 Hz. I don’t even think they’re gonna tap into the full capabilities of the pro but insomniac is definitely gonna give us options
I mean, at least it’s been confirmed you can do this kn some games (TLOU2 for example). I want to see how high of an fps the games can run at the standard PS5 perf and fidelity mode
I'm sure when you play on the normal Fidelity and Performance modes on PS5 Pro it will maximise both dynamic resolution and fps when unlocked framerate is available. But also the Pro mode benefits from improved ray-tracing and sometimes other graphical upgrades, PSSR also can resolve more detail than most of upscalling originally used. Let's not forget all the upgrades depend on the developers effort.
Fighting games on console are usually maxed out in terms of frame rate usually at 60. The best you’d get with a patch is higher resolution or background detail
The *Biggest* concern for me now is that developers will be less willing to make the base Ps5 have 60 FPS performance moves. And instead act like that's now a new PS5 pro feature. Just like when DLSS came out. Whenever there is something that makes the developer's job easier someone else is going to pay for it.
I mean, not necessarily. They’ll still make it so the PS5 can run 60fps. The Pro will just be able to do so at a higher resolution. If you make it work on the base console, then it scales up. Also, some lazy devs isn’t indicative of every dev. There are devs making games and optimizing just as there are some who are cutting corners. It’s not so black and white bud.
@mitchellbrinkerdp I think we will certainly see a game or two every once in awhile show a more lazy effort towards the base PS5. I think overall it'll still be good, but I think it is reasonable to say that there will likely be one or two games every now and again. Either way I'm picking up my pro from the GameStop I pre-ordered it from in like one day so it doesn't matter to me.
1150p, 1440p but it says 8k on the box.. Just build a PC. My PC does not lie to me. I can run games in NATIVE 4K & 8 and I am not limited to FAKE 4k or FAKE 8k
@@kiisseli1337 what's that 30 € about? The stand? It will stand upright without one, and can be also placed horizontally. Please don't make childish fuss about something so trivial.
um not really mate . theres something called optimisation. for example Hogwarts legacy are you saying the game is worse on ps5 because they made a switch and ps4 version ? obviously not . but the issue is present more so in online multiplayer games because they have to be compatible on ps4 and ps5 if cross gen released this means making it worse on ps5 sometimes . but story games overall never have this issue also sony makes a select number of games 3rd parties on mainly the ones that make the games cross gen
@@kiisseli1337 I understand that, but if your paying that much money the PS5 Pro should always look at least as good as the quality mode on the base PS5 imo.
@@TheJamtarts1R&C already looks amazing, terrible choice to show the PSSR with that. BMW, Space Marine 2 and FF XVI are the games they should’ve showcased with the PSSR, I sacrifice fidelity over performance any day but they look blurry af even though they are some of my fav games of this gen.
You need to blame Microsoft for the ps5 pro price tag. They came up with a downgraded series x console with no upgrade and no disk drive and then slap a £600 price tag on it. Do you expect a more powerful and advanced console to be in similar price rage ?
Damn, the sony ps5 pro propaganda is in full force, fools in the comments here are soo ready to waste their money. People like you guys are the reason why companies can release products at such ridiculous prices and still get away with it.
@@jeremykane2824GPU's give you an instant performance boost in every game though. The performance of the PS5 Pro isn't the problem. It's the fact that you can't allocate the performance where you choose and your relying on developers making Pro patches. There is only gonna be like 50 games that support the Pro, but there is literally thousands of games.
after switching to PC i feel like im losing interest in sony\msoft consoles. looking forward to nintendo switch successor more than anything. ps5 and series x are irrelevant.
Good for u i got hosed it wouldnt let me add mine to cart i was in the que on the site 3 minutes after it went live couldnt add anything to the cart but I have real bad luck so it was expected
@hortinus actually yeah. Price the parts out , it's still massively cheaper than any pc equivalent for power and performance. Microsoft just rolled out a digital series x with 2 TB ssd and the want $600! Also, saying $800 is disingenuous. A very large majority of us don't use our disc drives. If your disk drive is important to you: 1) prepare to lose that option in the future. 2) This product is either not made for you or then you are the outlier and you need the add on drive. For you it might be $800. For me or others it's $700. Stop worrying how much money people spend. Friend of mine spent $8000 on a lift for his Jeep. I think it's dumb but people that use that don't. Also someone with loads of disposable income, $700, really ain't shit.
@@rogerionascimento5580It’s very expensive. It’s not a good price in my opinion. Performance and graphics are very important to me but I’m not sure I want to buy the pro considering the regular ps5 with disc drive cost so much less.
No most people just don't think it's worth it. $700 isn't actually that much money. People with real money will be spending $3500 on things like the apple vision Pro. The big problem with the PS5 Pro isn't the performance it's the fact that your left hoping that 3rd party developer's support it and actually put effort in to that support. Not just rasing the resoloution slightly and slapping a Pro sticker on it.
Bruhh if there was atleast spiderman dlc or at most a new game.. i wouldve probably purchased. But to go play old games i beat like 2 or 3 times already.....im hella good on this scam. (Spider man was extremely mid but im bias cause venom is my fav comic book char)
So I guess no more new games are releasing this year or the next? Nobody is forcing you to play old games lol idk why you guys are talking like Nooo new games will come out that will take advantage of the better power in the pro. Quality mode and performance modes are coming with almost all AAA games nowadays.
@@umFerno ohhh I see, I understand that you guys are dying for more Sony exclusives but as a gamer I’m here to play whatever is good, sparking zero and silent hill releases in a few days and I’m going to be playing monster hunter wilds on the pro early next year. Once again, did games stop releasing? And who said the pro is running at 30fps. If base ps5 is running a game at solely 30fps which is rare(normally a fidelity and performance mode) then the pro will be most likely be running at better fps like seen in dragons dogma 2 pro footage. Like I said nobody is forcing you to play old games, and especially old games running at 30 fps. I look forward to your evidence of countless games running at 30fps on the pro with no option of better fps.
@@anssiaatoson that note, the 30th edition might have actually been a fantastic shield against standard Pro scalping. Either that, or they just made plenty of the regular ones ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@TheJamtarts1 I don't understand the logic that a piece of tech becomes unusable when something more powerful is released. Could you elaborate on that?
@@anssiaatos Because that's how tech works. You said "ditch your hardware for good" which means the PS5 will last you forever. It will last 3-4 years at most until the PS6 comes out. Like I said the 5060ti or maybe even the 5060 will come out in 8 months or something and be stronger. Will also only cost around $399 for a 5060ti.
@@TheJamtarts1 Well, my comment didn't imply that the PS5 PRO would be my last PlayStation. But yes, it did mean that I was switching from my old gaming PC to a console for better graphics, and I won't be upgrading the PC anymore. Even though PC technology continues to evolve and has been a part of my daily life for almost 30 years, that chapter has now come to an end. I don't agree with the idea that something gets worse just because new things come along. It's still as good as when it was first made. The difference is only in your perception of it, and perhaps the insecurity that comes from not having the latest technology 🙂
@@anssiaatos I mean the technology remains the same but it becomes outdated. That's why the PS4 seems rubbish now and that will happen to the PS5 Pro in the not too distant future. Fair enough if that's what you wanna do. I just think it's a bit strange to jump to a $700-800 PS5 Pro when you have a PC and have been a PC gamer. Like I said you could wait until the 5060ti comes out and buy it for around $399 minus whatever you can sell your current GPU for and it will be stronger than a PS5 Pro and have all the advantages of PC.
PC gamers trying to justify PC over PS. Not only do you need to spend £300 more just to get a similar experience, they forget that game developers optimise games for PS consoles first. Also PS gets their exclusives a year before PC. I have both and use my PS 95% of the time. Most PC gamers are overly obsessed with frame rate numbers and forget about ease of use and enjoyment factors.
All that is negated by the stupid monthly online fee PS players have to pay. PS even hiked the price of that fee recently, which made me cancel my subscription and I game exclusively on PC now.
I see in the comments people keep talking about Xbox series x fans bro the PS5 Pro do look better than the PS5 🤣 okay I get that but that's not the Xbox series x they talking about playstation compare the PS5 Pro vs Xbox series x side by side on games and see which one looks better and shut and just go spend your money again who cares 😂😂😂😅😅😅
if there's no competition in a market, then Sony will overprice and continue to overprice everything including their consoles, ps plus, etc etc because you have no other option to go for and everything will get so expensive to the point where you'll become broke. also, if sony has no other competition, they don't have to care about their consumers either so they'll give you even less features and updates and stuff. see the problem with that?
I get that I’m watching this via compressed TH-cam and my OLED monitor but I really really do not see or perceive game changing “TAKE MY MONEY NOOOOOWW!!!” graphics improvements. If Sony wants me to buy essentially the same product again, I need earth shattering head exploding improvements and it’s just not there. The PS5 Pro is less a hardware upgrade and more a tilling of the field or conditioning their customers for how expensive the PS6 will be in 2027. Also the Insomniac guy talking about improvements leads me to believe that Sony will charge for PS5 Pro upgrade patches. Last I checked, no one at Insomniac works for free, everything he was describing will take many man hours to accomplish, so count on around $10 for the “privilege” of playing on the Pro with higher specs. Lastly, you fanboys make me laugh. Do you actually believe the video game industry cares about you? You all are weak beta simps posting embarrassing undignified slop like “SONY IS TEH ROOOOLZZ AND MICROSOFT IS TEH SUXXXORRRZZ!!!” or vice versa without any hint of self awareness, emotional maturity or self respect.
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Oliver did a great job covering the pro. 👏🏻👏🏻
DF advertising PS5 Pro better than Sony lol.
Sony needs little advertising. It's a huge brand worldwide. Where were you every past gen. Sony makes a announcement and the internet explodes with vids from fanboys on every side.... Sony thanks all the PC and Xbox tubers every gen for advertising their consoles😂😂😂
@@60weHoodsta facts
@@ompong1993 DF is reporting, not advertising
While it is cool for newcomers or superfans, I think I'll do the same as I did with the ps4, wait for ps6 and enjoy all of the upgrades from pro on next generation. I remember getting 60fps on final fantasy xv and 4k 60 on rise of the tomb raider which were not possible originally on pro.
Fact is all of this game engines are made in the PS4 era so I hope they make a new one specifically coded for PS5 we still didn't see any mind blowing games instead we get remasters/remake using old but scaled game engines.
Spiderman 2 is definitely mind blowing from a graphical and rendering pov. The draw distance is literally insane, the speed of traversal is huge and there's no pop in or any issue. Graphics are one of the best i have ever seen as well
Please explain to me how 30fps is STILL in the conversation on the ‘upgraded’ machine. It’s frankly embarrassing.
Blame Sony for keeping the same CPU
@@jollama why would anybody blame Sony for anything they giving you upgraded hardware this is such a horrible comment.
@@GIO77ification You expect higher fps out of the same CPU? What a horrible comment
its just like there are some games on pc thats locked on 30fps not matter what upgrade you use. That could be on developers and not the pro
Skill issue from the devs. Every PlayStation 1st party game this gen has 60 fps
The PlayStation 5 Pro is making more and more sense everytime I see a Digital Foundry video on it.
Still doesn't excuse the price asking point
@@jurassictyrantkingYTit is not meant for broke people like you😂
@@jurassictyrantkingYT And a $4000 PC does ? Cope PC fan boy
@@SolarErazerWho the hell is paying 4000 for a PC? Stop lying
@@SolarErazer You are obviously a Sony fanboy, nobody pays $4,000 for a PC that's ridiculously fanfiction from PlayStation fanboys
Great video guys. Also on a side note the quality of Ollie’s camera set up is superb, what camera/ lens are you using? Even the colour saturation is 👌🏼 do you use any particular setting in this regard?
They would've sold the hell out of PS5 Pro if they gave us RDR2 with 4k 60fps capability.
That would require Rockstar to release a patch.
They do that to Bloodborne, and then we will be talking.
4 consoles and still no 60fps. Consoles.
I think they should have made them all 30th anniversary
@@c523jw7 u must be blind or just a troll
Minor differences , I will stay with my fat until ps6
I will stay with PS5 Pro until PS6 Pro
Yea I got the slim because of the new look that I personally like way more than the fat and the smaller size. Only way i get a pro is if gta6 cant run 60fps on the slim. Which im actually thinking it will but obviously have that pro mode on the pro
@@Amr_a82 same fidelity, doubled framerate -> minor differences 🥴
Nobody asked but cool settle
@@LegacyRap7777 if you talk to me, we are on the internet here. Am I factually incorrect ?
It would be very interesting to test Remnant 2 on the PRO, which is just right in terms of performance and resolution on PS5 and is U5
Amazing video. I thoroughly enjoyed it, thank you Digital Foundry.
Honestly, the primary game I want to see run on the Pro is RoboCop: Rogue City. On my 5th play through (yeah... I know...) and I feel like it would really benefit from the new specs because, outside of the humans, the game looked fantastic anyway, but it's nearly impossible to play in the 30fps mode.
Is it that good ?
@paulgal it was my GOTY, with the caveat that it's my favorite movie and I'm a bit of a RoboCop nut.
its just a superb nostalgia trip,,bad game...nostalgia drug.. thats it
love ratchet, very fun game, but it was short.
Why is there more aliasing on the ps5 pro ratchet and clank?
They explained that. 🤦🏾♂️
PSVR2 Games ?
Basically the pro console with all the new stuff is a preparation for Playstation 6 and getting Devs ready for the future console, thats it .. future of 4k and 60 fps with top notch ray tracing and seems it will be great, i just hope we get more great games, gg !
Spiderman 2 having rt reflections everywhere than includes alpha is mind blowong
Right, not to mention the sheer distance it's tracing!
The guy on the right gives me AI vibes
Everyone thinks there computer engineer or developer when they watch Digital Foundry 😂
@@jollamacomputer engineering isn’t the same as computer graphical engineering.
@@jollamaTwo different things, you should know that considering your major lol, I’m a computer scientist and even I know those are two different things lol
je garde ma ps5 standard a 8k 120fps oui !! c'est bien écrie sur la boite je vois pas de différence avec cette pro qui fait 4k 60fps AH !! la puissance de la pro c'est 799€ de base si on veut plus de performance il faut rajouter 120€ et 30€ (lecteur et socle) = 950€ là !! c'est le feux 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I feel like that somehow made just as much sense to me _before_ translating it
@@kieran.grant_ I thought the same thing. 😂
Instead of pushing out an update that let us enable PSSR on the normal or slim PS5 to get more fps with no extra fees, they decided to make an upscaler exclusive to a 700$ paperweight and want us to buy it because "oh hey, the Pro will run games 2x better because it have a massive crutch against the original console on top of the upgraded hardware, we are just asking for 700$, and btw, no disc drive included".
At times like this, im so glad i have my PC. Locking a graphics setting behind an entirely new console is a new low.
They can’t just enable PSSR on older consoles. The tech doesn’t exist in the system. You just said you have a PC. Ever realize that you can only use DLSS and Frame Gen on certain series of cards?
Say you don’t know what you’re talking about without saying you don’t know what you’re talking about.
I don't understand why Spider-man 2 doesn't look as good as Spider-man Miles Morales.
Will Spider-man 2 look as good as Miles Morales on PS5 Pro at 60fps? Or is the performance Pro mode the fidelity mode on the PS5 but at 60fps, with added PSSR?
The game that impressed me the most on PS5 Pro was F1 24. That looks like a generational leap compared to the PS5 version.
Can someone answer this for me:
Would a ps5 pro using PSSR combined with a 1440p monitor potentially result in WORSE quality than simply using the base ps5?
In other words PSSR taking things from say 1440 and then ai upsampling to 4k but then having to downscale to 1440p again as output?
Apologies if Im taking nonsense but figured it might be worth asking and I know the type of ppl in these comment sections would have the knowledge!
I really want a ps5 pro but not if there's any chance quality might be degraded because of my monitor choice. Thanks again.
Getting a PS5 Pro for a 1440p monitor is the dumbest idea I’ve heard all morning
@@unbanmekoil Didn't have to be an ass about it bro, the guy was just seeking advice.
@@unbanmekoil You are an incel. Go home child
I bought PS5 Pro and I have an OLED. In your case I would say it will not be worse, but certainly, for some specific cases it will be a waste of resources.
Nah in fact PC users use this all the time (1080p upscaled to 4K then downscaling it into 1080p or 1440p) Digital Foundry made a test in their video using Nvidia DLDSR. And they also tested it in Resident evil 4 remake dlss mod where 1080p upscaled to 4k then downscaling it to 1440p provide better image and perform quality using dlss+DLDSR and Red dead redemption 2 and Alan wake 2 community loved this features cause they can use 4K ultra performance mode dlss into 1080p screen and provide better image quality (720p to 4k then back to 1080p)
Crazy that people are willing to pay $700 for a minimal visual upgrade. These minimal upgrades is something I noticed happening quite a bit in the PC space. I’m just a bit disappointed that PlayStation is doing it pretty similar, if not worse.
DF has showed us that it is not minimal as you claimed. Do you want to have an interview with the guys with your own findings?
@@anssiaatos I can see with my own eyes. It’s not enough to justify $700, impo.
@@BarcodeGamez and besides, upgraders can sell their old console to reduce the cost.
Your watching probably 1080p vidoes on your phone expecting to see any difference on a compress video off youtube 😂😂
Its like saying a 2079rtx has the same graphics as a 4070 and theres no difference in quality and frames
What I don't really get is this. Most of these Sony 1st party titles already have unlocked VRR on all modes, right? While having a separate Pro mode for 60Hz displays makes sense since you were either locked at 30 or 60 fps before, why would I use the Pro modes on a 120Hz VRR display? Why shouldn t I just use the original Fidelity mode with unlocked VRR and just brute force my way to 60fps or even higher?
PSSR is doing a better imagem quality than the native one. watch DF video about TLOU2. I was asking the same stuff.
Good point, but I’m sure it has a lot to do with Ray tracing and how that’s implemented better than the original Fidelity mode me personally I prefer a native 4K 60 or 120 Hz. I don’t even think they’re gonna tap into the full capabilities of the pro but insomniac is definitely gonna give us options
I mean, at least it’s been confirmed you can do this kn some games (TLOU2 for example). I want to see how high of an fps the games can run at the standard PS5 perf and fidelity mode
@pian-0g445 yeah im curious too, the last of us part 2 on base ps5 with vrr runs at near 60fps in fidelity mode. But nobody talks about that
I'm sure when you play on the normal Fidelity and Performance modes on PS5 Pro it will maximise both dynamic resolution and fps when unlocked framerate is available.
But also the Pro mode benefits from improved ray-tracing and sometimes other graphical upgrades, PSSR also can resolve more detail than most of upscalling originally used. Let's not forget all the upgrades depend on the developers effort.
November 7 can't get here soon enough! PS5 Pro is the way to go... 😎🔥🔥
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Are you looking forward to play G T A 6 PRO ENHANCED ?
Alan Wake 2 enhanced 🔥🤗
@@viorelnst30fps
I'm interested in seeing the improvements ( if any ) to the likes of ark survival ascended for a true test.
Next to no visual difference on existing games - SONY: Give us $1200.
Yes, $1200. The MSRP that it’s selling for…
Surprised they didn’t note the “pro” mode had less dense crowd more like ps5 performance mode in R&C
They really tryin too sell the pro pushing harder than playstation is
Can DF show some fighting games taking advantage of the new hardware? Let’s start off with SF6.
Probably not all that different but I like SF6, and tekken. We will see
fighting games are typically made to run at max settings on consoles anyway so I don't think they would get any improvements
Fighting games on console are usually maxed out in terms of frame rate usually at 60. The best you’d get with a patch is higher resolution or background detail
My boy Ollie always looking like he’s about to burst out laughing
Might look a little nicer but the vanilla ps5 is good enough 👍
The *Biggest* concern for me now is that developers will be less willing to make the base Ps5 have 60 FPS performance moves.
And instead act like that's now a new PS5 pro feature.
Just like when DLSS came out. Whenever there is something that makes the developer's job easier someone else is going to pay for it.
I mean, not necessarily. They’ll still make it so the PS5 can run 60fps. The Pro will just be able to do so at a higher resolution. If you make it work on the base console, then it scales up.
Also, some lazy devs isn’t indicative of every dev. There are devs making games and optimizing just as there are some who are cutting corners. It’s not so black and white bud.
@mitchellbrinkerdp I think we will certainly see a game or two every once in awhile show a more lazy effort towards the base PS5.
I think overall it'll still be good, but I think it is reasonable to say that there will likely be one or two games every now and again.
Either way I'm picking up my pro from the GameStop I pre-ordered it from in like one day so it doesn't matter to me.
@@DaveTheeMan-wj2nk for sure there’s definitely gonna be some lazy games, but I’m sure those ones will run bad across the board.
1150p, 1440p but it says 8k on the box.. Just build a PC. My PC does not lie to me. I can run games in NATIVE 4K & 8 and I am not limited to FAKE 4k or FAKE 8k
So dlss and fsr are fake 4k?
@@bastien4530 YES!
Performance pro??? So P.P? Ooook👀👀
PS5 PRO Here we go! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Hi Everyone !
Just wait till consoles cost $1000. And then you’ll get ppl crying like a 13yr old like they are now when it jumps to $1200.
at that point consoles would be pointless, ppl would just build a pc
Yeah most people can build a $10.000 pc
Exactly. Ps6 will cost more than the pro. I’m my opinion most of the haters are the people who can’t afford the pro and are jealous.
Already is 850€+140€+30€ here = $1120
Want a Pro controller? Add $275
@@kiisseli1337 what's that 30 € about? The stand? It will stand upright without one, and can be also placed horizontally. Please don't make childish fuss about something so trivial.
Where's the other dude with the glasses and the other quiet dude that's on the show, but never speaks?
Guys, I have 120Hz and VRR capability on my TV, but not 1440p option, should I be ok with great picture quality that the PS5 PRO Should deliver?
You don't use 1440p output with 4K TV. HDMI 2.1 features are good, but for great image quality you need OLED
@@kiisseli1337You don't even need HDMI 2.1.
Barely any games will go above 60fps. None of the modern tripple A games thats for sure.
You don't need 1440p option. The games will upscale on their own. Keep native 4K enabled in settings.
@@TheJamtarts1are you playing on series S? Or just a random brainfart kid
@@Radek494 Thanks. I'm relieved👍👍
Just call it Sony Upscaler Pro😂
For the love of god!!!!! Sony, stop making ps4 games!!!!!!!!! Ur holding the damn ps5 back. We bought a ps5 to play ps5 games not ps4…..
um not really mate . theres something called optimisation. for example Hogwarts legacy are you saying the game is worse on ps5 because they made a switch and ps4 version ? obviously not . but the issue is present more so in online multiplayer games because they have to be compatible on ps4 and ps5 if cross gen released this means making it worse on ps5 sometimes . but story games overall never have this issue also sony makes a select number of games 3rd parties on mainly the ones that make the games cross gen
Why R&C is worse on ps5 pro than ps5 fidelity mode? Grass, crowd and "antialiasing" downgrade! Someone can explain? Maybe developer patch it?
30fps vs 60fps
@@kiisseli1337 I understand that, but if your paying that much money the PS5 Pro should always look at least as good as the quality mode on the base PS5 imo.
@@TheJamtarts1R&C already looks amazing, terrible choice to show the PSSR with that. BMW, Space Marine 2 and FF XVI are the games they should’ve showcased with the PSSR, I sacrifice fidelity over performance any day but they look blurry af even though they are some of my fav games of this gen.
Spoiler: games that look good on a base ps5 still look good on an overpriced, digital only scam (ps5 pro)
Advanced Ray tracing they said, its still half res to whats achievable on my PC. So basically your paying £700 just for an upscaler lol.
It still doesn't excuse Sony's price asking point, if PlayStation actually had competition PS5 Pros price would probably be $575-$600.
Agreed
Still cheaper than a comparable Pc and transistor costs aren't going down. They should've thrown in a disc drive instead of a 2tb ssd
Better Tech means higher point to get in. Why people want more from these companies yet don't want to pay for it is some broke bitch shyt.
@@RandomGamingMoments925 You can build a better PC for less than the PS5 Pro
You need to blame Microsoft for the ps5 pro price tag. They came up with a downgraded series x console with no upgrade and no disk drive and then slap a £600 price tag on it. Do you expect a more powerful and advanced console to be in similar price rage ?
Might sell my Base Ps5 to buy this but I can't, I made so many memories with it...
Damn, the sony ps5 pro propaganda is in full force, fools in the comments here are soo ready to waste their money. People like you guys are the reason why companies can release products at such ridiculous prices and still get away with it.
LETS SEE YOU DEVELOP A CONSOLE AND PUT ON A PRODUCTION LINE TO SELL TO PEOLPLE AT $300
IM WAITING TO SEE THAT HAPPEN.
are you going to buy a 5090?
You are just one of the jealous PC gamer 😂
How’s the gpu pricing working out for you these days?
@@jeremykane2824GPU's give you an instant performance boost in every game though.
The performance of the PS5 Pro isn't the problem. It's the fact that you can't allocate the performance where you choose and your relying on developers making Pro patches.
There is only gonna be like 50 games that support the Pro, but there is literally thousands of games.
The way they hyped the ray tracing improvements, I thought we'd receive path tracing in most games...
after switching to PC i feel like im losing interest in sony\msoft consoles.
looking forward to nintendo switch successor more than anything.
ps5 and series x are irrelevant.
cant wait for ps5 pro day one for me🤩🤩🤩
Got the 30th anniversary bundle and will get the regular Pro as well. Sony knocked it out of the park again!
$800.00? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Good for u i got hosed it wouldnt let me add mine to cart i was in the que on the site 3 minutes after it went live couldnt add anything to the cart but I have real bad luck so it was expected
No they didn't.
How do you say that when you haven't even used it or seen it yet? Don't be a fan boy
@hortinus actually yeah. Price the parts out , it's still massively cheaper than any pc equivalent for power and performance. Microsoft just rolled out a digital series x with 2 TB ssd and the want $600!
Also, saying $800 is disingenuous. A very large majority of us don't use our disc drives. If your disk drive is important to you: 1) prepare to lose that option in the future.
2) This product is either not made for you or then you are the outlier and you need the add on drive.
For you it might be $800. For me or others it's $700. Stop worrying how much money people spend. Friend of mine spent $8000 on a lift for his Jeep. I think it's dumb but people that use that don't. Also someone with loads of disposable income, $700, really ain't shit.
Digital foundry might as well rename themselves Sony foundry
they used to uptalk MS and xbox a lot but considering where xbox is now, what do you want them to do? do nothing?
still waste of money
Awesome the Ps5 Pro is the console to get. Now all I need is a 4K monitor 🥹 lol but for real I'm super happy to hear DFs praise of Ps5 Pro
Selling my PS5
Test FF16
In Norway. A ps5 pro with disc drive cost 1106 dollars. Compared to regular ps5 at 562 dollars.
Is this a good price, considering the average income in Norway? In Brazil it costs R$7,000 and the minimum wage is R$1,400, simply absurd.
@@rogerionascimento5580It’s very expensive. It’s not a good price in my opinion. Performance and graphics are very important to me but I’m not sure I want to buy the pro considering the regular ps5 with disc drive cost so much less.
@@elias123456789ist an average norwegian can buy three PS5 PROs per a month 🙂
Im convinced that at this point the people that are shitting on the ps5 pro or saying they wont buy one are just broke.
People have better things to do then just buy an overclocked console u dam fool. This whole generation is just straight 💩
@@mikestand8067 what like being comfortable to buy and do whatever I want within my ability and wealth? Then yeah it's been great for me.
No most people just don't think it's worth it. $700 isn't actually that much money.
People with real money will be spending $3500 on things like the apple vision Pro.
The big problem with the PS5 Pro isn't the performance it's the fact that your left hoping that 3rd party developer's support it and actually put effort in to that support. Not just rasing the resoloution slightly and slapping a Pro sticker on it.
1152p on the pro 😵💫😵💫😵💫 but that one guy on TH-cam said it was better then a 4090 😂
Bruhh if there was atleast spiderman dlc or at most a new game.. i wouldve probably purchased. But to go play old games i beat like 2 or 3 times already.....im hella good on this scam. (Spider man was extremely mid but im bias cause venom is my fav comic book char)
So I guess no more new games are releasing this year or the next? Nobody is forcing you to play old games lol idk why you guys are talking like Nooo new games will come out that will take advantage of the better power in the pro. Quality mode and performance modes are coming with almost all AAA games nowadays.
@@DarkZemX there are two and a half titles releasing this generation that aren't remasters/remakes.. $700 for 30fps is sad
@@umFerno exactly. Let him ride that pony till the hoofs fall off.
@@umFerno ohhh I see, I understand that you guys are dying for more Sony exclusives but as a gamer I’m here to play whatever is good, sparking zero and silent hill releases in a few days and I’m going to be playing monster hunter wilds on the pro early next year. Once again, did games stop releasing? And who said the pro is running at 30fps.
If base ps5 is running a game at solely 30fps which is rare(normally a fidelity and performance mode) then the pro will be most likely be running at better fps like seen in dragons dogma 2 pro footage. Like I said nobody is forcing you to play old games, and especially old games running at 30 fps. I look forward to your evidence of countless games running at 30fps on the pro with no option of better fps.
@@DarkZemX sparking zero is locked at 60 no point for the pro
More scalpers own ps5 pro than gamers
Nobody owns ps5 pro's it's not out yet.
The scalpers took action on the 30th edition. The basic PRO is not sold out.
@@oliverman6168 you can literally still preorder a PS5 PRO until October 10th...
@@anssiaatoson that note, the 30th edition might have actually been a fantastic shield against standard Pro scalping. Either that, or they just made plenty of the regular ones ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@kieran.grant_ They made shitloads of regular ones. The last time the chip shortage was the limiting factor.
Can't wait for the release date and ditch my PC hardware for good!
"For good" lol. The PS5 Pro will be outdated next year when the 5000 series GPU's are released.
5060ti will beat it comfortably.
@@TheJamtarts1 I don't understand the logic that a piece of tech becomes unusable when something more powerful is released. Could you elaborate on that?
@@anssiaatos Because that's how tech works. You said "ditch your hardware for good" which means the PS5 will last you forever. It will last 3-4 years at most until the PS6 comes out.
Like I said the 5060ti or maybe even the 5060 will come out in 8 months or something and be stronger. Will also only cost around $399 for a 5060ti.
@@TheJamtarts1 Well, my comment didn't imply that the PS5 PRO would be my last PlayStation. But yes, it did mean that I was switching from my old gaming PC to a console for better graphics, and I won't be upgrading the PC anymore. Even though PC technology continues to evolve and has been a part of my daily life for almost 30 years, that chapter has now come to an end.
I don't agree with the idea that something gets worse just because new things come along. It's still as good as when it was first made. The difference is only in your perception of it, and perhaps the insecurity that comes from not having the latest technology 🙂
@@anssiaatos I mean the technology remains the same but it becomes outdated. That's why the PS4 seems rubbish now and that will happen to the PS5 Pro in the not too distant future.
Fair enough if that's what you wanna do. I just think it's a bit strange to jump to a $700-800 PS5 Pro when you have a PC and have been a PC gamer. Like I said you could wait until the 5060ti comes out and buy it for around $399 minus whatever you can sell your current GPU for and it will be stronger than a PS5 Pro and have all the advantages of PC.
Yawn same old games.
Then in 3 years buy a new PlayStation so you can play Fidelity Pro at 60fps.
700 dollars for an up scaler.
PS5 PRO 👑
Ps5 pro is a scam
PC gamers trying to justify PC over PS. Not only do you need to spend £300 more just to get a similar experience, they forget that game developers optimise games for PS consoles first. Also PS gets their exclusives a year before PC. I have both and use my PS 95% of the time. Most PC gamers are overly obsessed with frame rate numbers and forget about ease of use and enjoyment factors.
All that is negated by the stupid monthly online fee PS players have to pay. PS even hiked the price of that fee recently, which made me cancel my subscription and I game exclusively on PC now.
this right here.i got 4060 and whenever i play on pc i obsses over frames lmao and whenever i play on console its just chill.im gonna get ps5 pro
Oh yeah how's 60fps going on rdr2...optimised??
Ps5 pro is not all that. Its gonna be the same
I see in the comments people keep talking about Xbox series x fans bro the PS5 Pro do look better than the PS5 🤣 okay I get that but that's not the Xbox series x they talking about playstation compare the PS5 Pro vs Xbox series x side by side on games and see which one looks better and shut and just go spend your money again who cares 😂😂😂😅😅😅
The ps5 pro is more powerful than the series x.
@@AllDayErrDay. PS5 Pro costs $300 more than a Series X could you imagine the chaos we'd see if it wasn't more powerful
@@AzaiaMonota well well well
@@AllDayErrDay. Go ✔️ the specs 😜😄 it's the same as the PS5 only a slightly more powerful GPU
Man y'all mad 😡😡😡😡
Plays best on ps5 pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MEGA L FOR THE GAYBOX SERIES X FANQUEERS!!!!!! IMAGINE BEING A GAYBOX FANQUEER IN 2024!!!!!!!!!!!!
Get a life
@@adousylla23Phil Spencer needs to close the doors for the gaybox brand. 20+ years of taking MEGA Ls is pathetic and not giving up.
Imagine being a grown man and being this sad 😂 you must be super lonely it’s quite sad
Take your meds Ryan. Where is your dad. The ceo of sony. Wheres your dev kits you claim to all have & your 4090? Where are they Ryan. Lmaoooo
if there's no competition in a market, then Sony will overprice and continue to overprice everything including their consoles, ps plus, etc etc because you have no other option to go for and everything will get so expensive to the point where you'll become broke. also, if sony has no other competition, they don't have to care about their consumers either so they'll give you even less features and updates and stuff. see the problem with that?
I get that I’m watching this via compressed TH-cam and my OLED monitor but I really really do not see or perceive game changing “TAKE MY MONEY NOOOOOWW!!!” graphics improvements. If Sony wants me to buy essentially the same product again, I need earth shattering head exploding improvements and it’s just not there. The PS5 Pro is less a hardware upgrade and more a tilling of the field or conditioning their customers for how expensive the PS6 will be in 2027.
Also the Insomniac guy talking about improvements leads me to believe that Sony will charge for PS5 Pro upgrade patches. Last I checked, no one at Insomniac works for free, everything he was describing will take many man hours to accomplish, so count on around $10 for the “privilege” of playing on the Pro with higher specs.
Lastly, you fanboys make me laugh. Do you actually believe the video game industry cares about you? You all are weak beta simps posting embarrassing undignified slop like “SONY IS TEH ROOOOLZZ AND MICROSOFT IS TEH SUXXXORRRZZ!!!” or vice versa without any hint of self awareness, emotional maturity or self respect.