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- Check out what 13 thinks about Wuthering Waves on this episode of "WTH is"
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It may be reminiscent of Genshin, but to me it feels like it improved on many of the issues that drove people away from Genshin. The endless, nonsense dialog, artifact farming, slow and confusing story at times, etc.
I don't play Genshin anymore, or many other gachas, but WuWa feels more respectful of player's time. This all may change, but for now I think they're doing well and I'm enjoying it so far.
since the theme of the game is sound. wuthering waves basically means disturbance in soundwaves.
Its almost a crime that your videos dont get as much views as they should. You just earned a sub.
I love how triggered the WuWa crowd gets when faced with honest and fact based criticism. This channel is great!
@@CCLB2024 tell me about it, lmao.
honest criticism? sorry, this video seems like a comparison between genshin and wuwa rather than a review, it feels like the creator of this video only played genshin as their only gacha and used that as a reference
@@Miggy9 you know, it wouldn't be compared if it didn't grab a lot of elements from GI not to mention LOOKING like GI. Lmao but yes, use that an excuse to turn a blind eye against the blatant issues this game has, you even CONVENIENTLY skirted through all other legitimate problems that this game has all in the name of saying that the video doesn't contain honest criticism. Lmao, get over your fandom and don't lie to yourself.
A Mihoyo whiteknight can't state facts nor be honest.
Why i discontinued this game after couple of days launch "i dont know why am i playing this game??"for sister??for girlfriend??and then????
@@0-_-.0 I feel you man
Just because you used Megaman X4 scene, I subscribed for more. Not because this was a very nice discussion. Well thought out. And well edited. And that, coming from someone that likes the WuWa, tells a lot about how much I enjoyed the way you convey your ideas. Looking forward for more.
Hey man, I'm happy you gave me a shot, I certainly learned a lot of lessons during the release of this video and definitely take it with me for future reference.
Pros:
1. Running w/o consuming stamina.
2. Running on walls, double jump.
3. A more forgiving gacha.
4. Good & fun combat system with break mechanics. Echo pokemon system.
5. Lots of freebies.
6. Skip button.
7. Story quests are better.
Cons:
1. Glitches in storyline. Also we don't know what the end goal is.
2. Echo utility are hit or misses. It's really hard to streamline echo transformation with the combat mechanics. They're mostly bonus dmg.
3. No condensed resin mechanic.
4. Cooking system is meh.
and....what he said.
Condensed resin mechanic is the next patch feature which is very soon
"...if anyone reaches the end game write a comment what it's about..." Well...
Many launch issues listed here have been improved somewhat already. Other things might never change since it's a gacha game with lots of mobile players.
Unsure when/where the endgame starts since the game is new and all... but I've hit around Acc Level60 in like 2 months as F2P? Effectively able to access and clear all current content.
Progression seems WAY faster, ressource scarcity is still TOUGH but players enjoy the game because it does respect time spent a lot better than *some other gacha* . Free gamble chances and characters are the name of the game in waifu simulators, and the devs are generous + listenting to feeback, which is why the game is seeing a lot of positive feedback.
It's still a gacha though. After burning through the total / event promoted content it turns into the daily log-in and log-out maintenance state with a couple biweekly combat challenges until the next patch. Hard to say much about the finer details like how varied and challenging the content is, the game is too new. Grind/lucky stat rolls lessen the damage and skill checks of the harder bosses but don't invalidate them entirely.
The game truly is not bad (and free duh), would recommend to try for everyone, no need to spend a life sentence there either. The combat aka actual gameplay is what makes the characters different, as they all have their own mini game which is a lot more engaging than staring at a yapping 2D or 3D model all day (story players will disagree). Black&white military artstyle may be a world building aesthetic or even the first regions identity so again... too early to tell...
The elements are a meme in that they are different colours of physical damage to inflate the grinding process - BUT actually high investments are not (yet) needed to fully clear the game at all and pretty much every character is a viable choice (so far), which is something I can't think of in (m)any other gacha, even other games of other genre honestly.
Okay yapped too much, back to gaming, Have a good one folks.~
Thanks for summarizing the end game for the rest of us who can't stomach this game.
Personally, I'd say it's still one of the better gacha games on the market right now, not that that's saying much when it comes to gachas. In spite of the severe 1.0 flaws, I was enjoying Wuthering Waves enough to keep playing even though up until a day before it's launch, I didn't even know what it was (my friend told me about it). For the little it does improve on the Genshin formula, going back and trying Genshin already shows how annoying Genshin is to play in comparison imo.
Be careful while exposing genshin's flaws, there might be hardcore genshin stans around here
@@halalmon It's kind of wild when Hoyo staff themselves seemed more than ok with posting themselves with Wuthering Waves promotional material, these people are way too terminally online.
@@halalmon lmao, tell me about it
Very well made arguments. Agreed that non gacha players will not find this fun. Heck I played god of war 4 and then played genshin then immediately felt how cheap it was in most aspects. Personally I played this game after this was released since day 1 and am still playing. The hype carried me through early levels. The storytelling is better imo in comparison to genshin but the story is still weak. But in version 1.1 there are some improvements to the right directions thankfully. I don't mind the similarity to genshin as genshin itself was almost identical to breath of the wild in almost all aspects during its initial release but now has took off to its own direction. Wuwa aims for same audience as genshin so the similar UI and concepts might be easier to attract people ig. And most people in the comment talk about not having a purpose in story but I don't mind in that aspect. I mean we are some guy with no memories so ofc the 1st thing to do would be find who we are and why were we sent here. The dialog needs heavy change I agree sounds so jargon heavy and stiff at times. The character interactions are limited and yang yang clings to you for no reason whatsoever. But I still have high hopes for this game as the gameplay itself has leveled up wildly in the new patches the thing you can do have already increased exponentially in combat. I played their previous game PGR because its music pulled me but now after 2 years the game looks completely different in terms of gameplay and story both have leveled up massively. Very well made video nontheless!
@@gauravkarki2654 Thanks for not outright hating the video and seeing this as JUST me comparing this game to GI, I'm not a GI fan, I'm just an avid gamer and thank you for giving me your slice of the story. It was a good read :)
@@THIRT33N ye experienced gamers in general would not like any gacha games if you played any good games before. Thanks for listening to my yap lmao. Hope all the best for your future works!
To be honest, I'm happy that I quit genshit because their gameplay doesn't even bring me anything interesting, and I still can't even do Abyss because my characters are all underbuilt due to artifact grinding ( it took me exactly 1 month to even get 1 correct artifact for one character )
And yeah, my main reason quitting genshit is their artifact grinding is just, extremely tedious and no fun at all.
Echo hunting in WuWa is one of the reasons I'm staying in WuWa. It's fun killing and killing and get more sets of echo for yourself and for later use rather than in genshin where you gotta keep farming and farming for that one for christ sake artifact with current main stats and 2nd main stats...
Wenshin Wimpact 😭🤣
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Imma tell you what makes this better than Genshin (aside that characters don't look too cartoony considering they're both anime). It's the mothafukin SKIP option on cutscenes and dialogue scenes. Some CSs are unskippable, but that's cool because they're very very rare. I hate that in Genshin I'm forced to spam the skip button on each line and here they let you just skip it altogether. Also, combat is better and grind is lighter. Hate the artifact farm in Genshin, and Echo (same as artifacts in WuWa) is fun and easier.
With echoes is almost like a mini pokemon collector game and you actually get to summon or transform on the monsters you catch. IDK man, but WuWa just kinda offers more style and gameplay fun. Don't even get me started on how you can everyone has a grappling gun, double jump and climbing walls is a beauty *chef's kiss*. I think I've explained enough on why WuWa > Genshin
@@Vangoh32 lmao, the combat is definitely better than Genshin, I can attest to that and yes being able to skip is a must, dont worry, I dislike Genshin as much or if not more than you. hahaha
There is no originality in Genshin too, 😂 first of all Genshin is recycled Zelda game and soon will be a recycled Pokémon game, as a whale Genshin player I think Wuwa at least do it much better at story progression, Genshin lore is cool and dark but it can be hard to follow since it progresses super duper slow even slower than a snail, I still playing Genshin just because I don’t want to waste my whaled money from the characters i got
Yeah, Genshin's not really original, that's kinda why I pointed out BOTW, lmao anyway to me Genshin's way of introducing the player to the world is a lot more coherent than what WuWa did. Both games have their pros and cons but right now, in this video, I generally wanted to point out the problems that games in this genre face, unfortunately WuWa, which was supposed to be a step up from the previous gacha games, didn't really bother IMO to actually "step up" instead the devs decided to play it INCREDIBLY safe by copying assets, the overall style, etc.
Like I said in another comment, all I really want is for devs who could've done better to do better. They had the capacity to make this game, unfortunately they squandered the opportunity to make a better game, and I think that's worth pointing out, especially in the current landscape of the games industry.
@@THIRT33NWuwa has great ideas but the devs decided to speedrun through acts instead of fleshing them out.
@@arthurgeier2545unfortunately, yeah, it had good things going for it too. But it is what it is, I guess.
The big thing, is that mobile isn't getting any better until controller support is added. EN dub damage is already done, but that's less of an issue compared to the fact that they're trying to push mobile when this is clearly a PC/console game (doesn't control well on mobile).
Well, that's what they get for pandering towards the mobile crowd, I guess?
Controls well on mobile for me with and without controller (I prefer touch which may be insane to people who don't often play on mobile)
The EN dub in Wuthering Waves is...strange? Idk, I'm still getting used to it, I only like Danjin, Calcharo, Jiyan, Yangyang, Jinhsi, Mortefi, Male Rover, Baizhi and Changli's EN VA so far
@@youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062 so sounds like you like every VA besides YangYang
@@4080RTXMobileGamer re-read my comment again, thanks
"Wuthering Waves" in my opinion came from one of the endgame of PGR (Their other game) "Cursed Waves", it has some words, like echo, etc.. If you played it you'll know what i mean..
It is also the equivalence from the game mode of Wuwa, The Depth of Illusive Realm.. The mechanics is the same as Cursed waves, except you need character to gain buffs, than items to upgrade echo. Or something like that
Thanks for the insight, I actually don't know about "Cursed Waves" maybe I'll check it out.
I'll say scrapping 90 percent of the story was stupid
@@onion69420 lmao, be wary, there may be rabid fans out there who can't take fair criticism
That really depends, because it did clearly result in a much more rushed 1.0 story with especially atrocious starting Acts, but on the other hand, the old story might have been more "polished"... but still overall worse. But we will never know what the original story's 1.1 would have been like, so at this point it's anyone's guess which storyline was/is actually better down the line.
I played the game a few times and got tired of it. It is nothing new literally nothing new just genshin revamoed with a different story and different combat system. Its nothing but a dissapointment. It may be a good quality game but it is nothing new, nothing revolutionary and nothing interesting.
@@AzealiaBanksstancentral Thank god, someone with actual sense.
Sometimes small changes are enough tbh.
Doesn't have to be revolutionary. Kuro games aren't as big as hoyo . So for them this is still good enough
@@mask9269 Kuro Games is valued at 489.65 million dollars according to the stock market. You still think they're not big enough to be better? those numbers don't match the "good enough" mentality, those numbers are EA level. That's why companies like these keep getting away with it because people keep accepting this as the status quo.
@@THIRT33N lol why rush them to be better? they will and they are on it. What's stupid is some company worth billions who hasnt done much to be better.
@@astr1d.x-y-z Because they aren't exactly rookies either, they're not an indie development studio, they're valued at over 400 million USD, that's a heck of a lot of money than what indie devs make in a year, stop normalizing this level of mediocrity, if you want good games, you don't accept shit like this.
He clearly likes it!
lmao, I DEFINITELY like this MASTERPIECE of a game.
they gotta do what already works formula, kind of cash grab but some people really into that. For voice acting, the older media get a pass since it was from the campy era transition to more believable cinematic.
Sadly, playing it is safe is now the norm.
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I havent even realized how much "Wenshin Wimpact" took from GI. People who keep saying that this game is okay needs to be put in an insane asylum, this isnt "okay" and if the fanboys hate this video because of the multitude of comparisons to GI need to take a chill pill and see that this game wouldnt be compared if it didnt rip off so much shit from GI anyway great video as always
Play more games than genshin and you'll realize how this genre works and how genshin didn't invent gaming, child.
I'm personally in favor of as many Genshin clones as humanly possible because the consumer wins in the end. More competition obviously speaks for itself, but from the perspective of the player, they can simply pick and choose the game that they like best for whatever reason, whether it be character designs, developer attitude, worldbuilding, combat, time requirement, etc. I agree that if you love Genshin and don't want another Open World gacha game to play, this isn't the game for you, but I think it's the perfect game for people who like the idea of Genshin but are dissatisfied with the traversal, artifact grind, endgame, and tedious side quests.
Yes, having options is good for the players but to me, it would be better to have GOOD options rather than having to choose between the lesser of two evils, but I do agree that having options is nice.
@@THIRT33N Yeah, I understand where you're coming from. I didn't come into Wuwa with super high hopes which might be why I'm enjoying it so much right now. My enjoyment factor also rose a lot when I swapped off the English dub. I'm normally an English Dub enthusiast but the quality of certain cutscenes sucked me right out of the game. Anyway here's to Azur Pomilia hopefully kicking ass.
Wuthering Waves is the first RPG Gacha game I've played. I mean I did play Genshin for some time(probably 7-8 hours) thus enjoying wuwa as a whole and not going on thinking it is just a copy. So all I wanna say is you saying the game is copied which makes it bad has some logical fallacies to it. Its basically saying that there is concept same in both games but you're gonna enjoy it in one bec its in a game you like but not in the other because you dont like or should I say Since you've already played you're unable to enjoy it. The same logic you've applied for all the points... Its bad cus its copied still you enjoy the same thing in GI. I agree on storyline although only at the start, it is all cramped but later its a smooth sailing.
@@seventhruin @noezyt To be fair, yes, saying that the game is bad because it has the same concepts is not a good take but what I'm trying to allude to in the video is the thin line between being inspired from and just being a clone but to be fair it is a thin line.
Well you can say the same for so many fps games 😂
All have the same backbone just some have different elements.
Saying this is a copy of genshin is very bad take tbh.@@THIRT33N
@@mask9269 except that there's a big difference between "inspired from" and "blatant copying" don't get me wrong, I don't like Genshin Impact, I genuinely hate what it stands for, I'm only here to criticize the fact that this game had the potential to be different, instead it decided to be more of the same and be as safe as possible to maximize profits. Ignoring these matters and not criticizing it is a worse take, tbh.
wuwa is its own game, genshit will remain as genshit, no need to explain
@@SolomonLegends dont worry, I dont like Genshin either, I'm merely pointing out the fact that this game decided to be much less than what the developers were capable of making.
I think the "Audio Cutoffs" are actually a well-intended but not thought through "feature". If you enter the menu to do stuff or read through a tutorial message and accidentally interrupt a conversation in most games the line just gets cut off and you never know what the character was going to say, so WuWa instead opted to make them start the line over again... which is nice... but very unfortunate in the beginning when you still get spammed with new tutorials all the time.
To the video as a whole, well WuWa is a gacha game, that much is for sure, so yes, there are certain aspects that are very intentionally "held back" to incentivize player-retention and financial gain over delivering a "complete gaming experience" as you would expect from full price titles. So Gacha games will always compare relatively badly to such games. As a F2P experience it's very similar to Genshin, a big open world, a long story you can get involved in (or not, an advantage over Genshin lol) and a compelling combat system. So as a F2P game I would never be able to say it's a "bad" game, it offers tons of content for free, and compared to what F2P mobile games USED to look and play like 10 years ago these are indeed masterpieces xD
The only reason why I'm willing to overlook the issues WuWa has is indeed simply because Kuro Games has always been very responsive to player feedback, which is a rarity in the Gacha space and does give the game a lot of potential as long as they keep improving based on said feedback. I would say, yes, they took the basis of Genshin and improved upon it, but since Genshin refuses to innovate and listen to feedback Wuthering Waves might actually be able to deliver on the potential Genshin had but wasted due to stubbornness.
I dunno, this feels like a bug more than a feature because as you can see the audio was cutting off despite the appearance of a menu but if it was done for the purposes of being able to repeat a line, it could've definitely been done much better.
I.E. a log system that's prominently featured in visual novels or japanese dating sims, etc.
@@THIRT33N Well, it's only for lines that happen while you're just wandering around the world, so there would be no log for that either way. Although there is a log feature in the game now, but you need to finish a dialogue and then look it up again afterwards which hopefully can be implemented DURING the actual dialogue in the future, but at least it exists now lol
And it feels buggy, especially if you have no clue why they are repeating the lines, but once I realized what caused it... I do actually like the "feature" that prevents you from accidentally losing out on dialogue if you happen to open a menu at the wrong moment, but during the tutorial stage of the game it was definitely jarring lol
It's a Genshin for a more hardcore combat oriented player 😂.
@@diazpramudita5165 lmao, I guess that's one way of seeing it
Genshin is for children.
WW is for players.
Classic asian Mihoyo whiteknight with no criteria and no experience in gachas.
Lmao, Genshin impact is just as trash don't worry, cry harder though. :)
Idk why but the EN dub is abit strange honestly, I'm still getting used to it, there's some that I find fitting, but there's some that...uh- Idk bro, they sound so out of place, like Encore for example
@@youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062 TBH they do hit the mark sometimes but every other time it's just 1 fumble after another.
Apparently it's because nearly all the actors are British and are being forced to do an American accent. You can definitely tell, especially with characters like Encore and Taoqi. I just don't understand why they can't act in their actual accents, half the NPCs are already British
@@theflamingphoenix6986 it's more like, I don't like the voices they give to the characters, I like some like Calcharo, Mortefi, Changli, Jinhsi, Baizhi, Yangyang, Verina, Scar, Sanhua, and a few others, but there are some that I don't like, like Chixia, Encore, and a few others, maybe because majority of the characters are female, generally, male EN VAs are regarded to be better, there are some good female EN VAs, but like, they sound...off-putting to me sometimes
@@THIRT33N yeah, like you have someone like Verina, Taoqi, Danjin, Calcharo, and a few others, but then you have someone like Encore, who sounds older than she actually looks, Verina still make sense because she's older than she looks, Idk about Encore
The English dub was terrible in the first 3 acts, after that they've significantly improved it
Especially Jinhsi's performance in 1.1