I think the weakness in what you have been doing, is that you have no "control". Pick a club that you "always use" for each club type, and include it in the plot in each test you do. Like so many sites, they just test the range of what is released. Which isn't what people are interested in completely. They want to see progression in tech. So for example, in this test, you would want to see the off center hits result vs the control. Then you can plot a series of summary at the end of a season of testing with the winners and losers. Thats my feedback
You guys are really in a good position to grab a lot of TXG viewers now that Ian/Mikey are moving off to their own things. I love the robot data, and the final presentation stats, and I'm starting to see them get posted in threads on tech heavy equipment sites.
Thank you, we truely want to be the place for people to come and look at golf equipment data from an unbiased viewpoint. We appreciate you taking your time to watch and comment.
These are the tests I've wanted FOREVER... controlled robot tests... real data finally. I emailed you guys a while back about how blades and blade like irons seemingly had the best dispersion which is the opposite of what we've always been told. You took the time to write a long and thought out response. Really appreciated it and appreciate the reviews. If you guys ever need a super nerd, engineer, scratch golfer, data guy consultant, reach out haha
You guys are revolutionizing the club testing / review process. 100% data driven and no bias because someone wasn’t particularly swinging good that day! 😉 Love it!
Thank you for your loyal support! Tell your friends we want to be the safe place for honest data driven reviews to help people buy the best equipment for them and play their best golf!
These videos are so good. Can't stand the subjectivity of most other "reviewers" online who don't control for other variables nearly as well (if at all). Keep it up!
We have an engineer and PHD on staff to ensure we get the best possible data. We want people to have the information that honestly allows them to buy their best clubs! Thanks for watching.
Not saying it was me but if you search the comments early on I was saying, "guys we need more of that sweet footage of the robot doing its thing." Glad you guys are really delivering the goods now!
I think you guys may need to adjust the summary data graphics a little bit. The dark blue gradient at the top of the graphic at 8:03, 11:26, and 14:43 makes the top row of black text for "Ball Speed," "Toe Speed Change," and "Heel Speed Change" really difficult to read. It might look OK to you guys in the studio because you probably have your monitors/TVs set really bright to deal with the studio lights or something, but the black text against the dark blue gradient at the top of the graphic is difficult to read. It viewed it on my TV, and it is even worse on my phone. Maybe you can make that text in the top row white or just adjust the blue color gradient to not be so dark at the top.
Mark Timms has been the Godfather of club fitting and we are not going anywhere. We want to show people what really happens behind the scenes here at Cool Clubs and Worldwide golf that separates us from the rest. We hope you join us for the ride!
Much more to come on this too.... we have a scanner that is going to blow people away. It might be a way for people to start knowing exactly what attributes they need for their game... and in the future order the exact club they need!
Thanks for sharing the data. It's cool to see the robot in action. I'd be curious to see if you moved the rear weight more in line with the mishit location if the distance loss would become less, and if gear effect (directional dispersion) would also be reduced compared to the mishits with the rear weight in the center neutral position.
This is a test we have on the list. Dr Tom Mase wants to explore his theory with CG and MOI movement relative to the numbers we get on the robot, so this will be done!
This is amazing data to see. Really looking forward to the comparisons between all the drivers. Will you guys be doing this for different swing speeds as well? Hoping for 115-125 range. I’ve heard for higher swing speeds maybe the high MOI 10k models with lower lofts around 7° can be very effective. Great job guys!!
Thank you! Yes we have a 115mph test programmed in. We may have to live stream testing for a day so we can do a bunch of tests in one hit! Hang in there with us. So much to test its a little scary.
This video is great! Any chance you guys will be doing the new Wilson? I'm really looking forward to that club, but not all channels seem to test Wilson.
We will! We have their products on the way, after we get through the bulk of launch season we will get their gear on the robot, were excited to see how they stack up!
@@CoolClubs I'm also a fan of Wilson, all of their stuff is really nice and they are a little less pricey compared to the other big name brands, the prices are ridiculous.
At a club head speed of 95mph what are your optimal target metrics for: spin rate? launch angle? - 11.3 or 11.5 - under 2300 both seem low, no? *and what about peak height?
Would be awesome if you can have the robot swing w a more of negative attack angle and let us know what drivers and setups people like myself should test out ! I understand swing change is best but unlikely for a lot of people. So getting the most out of equipment can help
Thanks! This is on the list. We will set up an outside-in swing with a negative angle of attack and visa versa so people with different attributes can see what works for them best.
@@CoolClubs Awesome! Some say low spin drivers with high loft some say more forgiving head drivers with low loft. I’m playing the ai smoke triple diamond max (will Callaway release the elyte triple d max?) chasing the lower spin with more forgiveness like everyone else. 100-105 mph w around a -4 attack angle would a great robot test selfishly for me !
What shaft set up is being used and are these variables consistent across changing heads? Do you see a difference in shaft torsion/ball flight at impact based on shaft differences? e.g. Stock vs velocore, etc.
Fot this style testing we will use our Cool Clubs shafts made by Mitsubishi. We check them on our S3 machine to ensure they are the same: Weight, Balance point, torque, straigtness, FM, EI, deflection. We do this so the shaft in each head is basically identical and will do this for the higher speed and lower speed shafts too. This is something no other club fitting company can do. We should do a video on how testing shafts with a robot is tough.. we have used our shaft robot (S3 Machine) to measure the static metrics of the ventus shafts you mentioned (one of our highest viewed clips this year) which you might be interested in too. Basically we need to desgn a jig that would allow the clubhead to be in an identical position at address after swapping shafts to allow a good robot test a golf shaft.... its tough to do but we wont rule it out!
I can't wait to see the new robot's numbers on the P770, the Cobra King Tour, the Wilson CB, and the new 923 Forged. Only low dispersion clubs with forgiveness...
New subscriber for a few months. In September 2023 I was custom fit for TSR3 driver at 2ndSwing in DE on trackman indoors. Avg. #'s: CHS: 96.2 mph, Ball speed: 142.5 mph, smash: 1.48, Carry: 238.7 yds. Spin: 2319 rpm, Launch: 17.1 deg. Height: 107 ft. Landing angle: 40.2 deg. I was fitted into a HZDRS red CB 6.0 50 gram shaft. what is your take on my numbers and the shaft i was fitted into? Out on the course with a good solid strike, my avg. carry is about 245 and with good roll out i get to about 265-270 yards. I'm 60 yrs young and been playing for nearly 35 years What is the relation between Trackman indoors vs Foresight ? CHS at 96 mph on trackman indoors would be equal to what on Foresight ?
Your numbers are solid, think of the shaft like a timing mechanism, how often can you hit it where you want with these ballistics? The head produces most of the numbers and the shaft allows it to happen more consistenly (and fine tune numbers as needed). Trackman and Foresight measure at slightly different moments, we love Foresight for robot testing as it gives us feedback on exactly where the club was right around impact. Trackman is great (especially with RCT balls). We use Trackman in our outdoor fittings to give the best possible down range data. Speed wise as a general rule Foresight will read a little higher than TM and this will be amplified at higher speeds. At your speed you would only see 1 or 2mph difference max P.S Your numbers are great for 60 years young!
@ thank you ! I forgot to mention I used an RCT proV1x ball during my custom fit. Also, starting with my 2016 M2 a few years ago I had to go with a counterbalanced shaft and continued with my current TSR3. Every time I try to use a non-counterbalanced shaft my spin goes up into the high 3000 4000 RPM range can you explain why?
The only way this is a helpful test is comparing it to last year's to see if any improvement. Too many reviewers are sucking up to Callaway right now for a free driver and raving about it but no one has really done a major comparison to last year's. And they will be sucking up to TM, Titleist and others soon as they come out with new ones. These things are $600....what does it buy us? In the past 5 years, the answer is very little to sometimes backwards. We need comparative tests or the data is useless. Thanks and hope to see some of that in the fututre.
We will this is just to kick us off. We also hear this comment a lot. We will most likely compare to previous years models as this is what people want, in reality people purchase drivers every few years so we should really be going back to OG Paradym or prior to simulate a buying cycle gain.
This video, and the ones that follow, should really jump-start your numbers of subscribers. Once you get a few more drivers tested, and in your database, we should be able to see which drivers are perhaps better for our particular needs. Thanks Jack, Mark, and now Glenn as well.
Thank you, we want to be the best out there, hopefully that brings the subscribers so we can have the best & most informed audience in the golf equipment space! We will test all the new products, at all kinds of speeds. It's a little scary to think how much we have to come but it should make for golf geek heaven!
Yes, we check all the shafts for quality and correct specifications with our S3 machine and then pure them to make sure we have taken things as far as we can.
Comparison vs AI Smoke please. Otherwise really not persuasive at all. Interesting that toe hits go straight when bulge and roll theory says it should draw.
We will get some comparison pieces done… for the record, we are not here to persuade anything… just to give you data that helps you make your best decision. The toe hit started right and came back online due to roll and bulge so it did as it should
@CoolClubs thanks for the reply. Objectively, stand alone results don't mean much when it's a new model every year and there is no new technology. Cally claims 1 more year of data makes this new face better...well really.. The Robot is great and what you guys are doing with it.
don't fail to give the LS the poke. test it's limit, what does it do at 115pmh ,120mph, 125 and 130? will the face bounce still work as designed? Which balls are better for that speed what does a stiff and SX at that speed do? where's the limit to the design and function? you may just find the face has a sweet spot at a certain swing speed, at what speed the the trampoline effect no longer works? and at what slow speed does it not function as well? ( If I have a swing speed at 85-90 and I buy a driver that functions best at 95-100, or it's design is best at 110-115, then why waste the money. This data is very interesting to collect as it would help buyer decide what it worth buying. It may be data that the companies don't really want you to know the limits of their products. We already cut ball to see which are the most constant. Drivers and shafts should be pushed to there extremes, both ends too.
Thanks for the suggestions, we already have a few of those tested calibrated into the robot. 115mph for instance will happen soon! Shafts are harder to test but never say never. We will give the LS a poke.... in fact that will be the first test it gets! Thanks for watching.
You guys need to watch a TXG video. It’s really helpful when we see it hit where it hits on the face. I don’t know. I’m falling asleep with your video. There’s too much yap and not enough show. I would rather not see Percentages drop off I’d rather see numbers.
@@CoolClubs Awesome! Looking forward to it. As a higher speed player (120-122mph) with a pretty neutral delivery (1-2 from the inside and roughly 2* up) with a toe-sided miss, I prefer something with a fade-biased CG, but I need something that still spins. I get lots of shots spinning at 1,600RPM with mid-high 170's ball speed. The good ones are great, but the bad ones are horrendous.
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What should we name our robot?
Hey, I’d love so see how some older drivers compare with the same test. Maybe compare with rogue st max, as an example in this case.
I think the weakness in what you have been doing, is that you have no "control". Pick a club that you "always use" for each club type, and include it in the plot in each test you do. Like so many sites, they just test the range of what is released. Which isn't what people are interested in completely. They want to see progression in tech. So for example, in this test, you would want to see the off center hits result vs the control. Then you can plot a series of summary at the end of a season of testing with the winners and losers. Thats my feedback
You guys are really in a good position to grab a lot of TXG viewers now that Ian/Mikey are moving off to their own things. I love the robot data, and the final presentation stats, and I'm starting to see them get posted in threads on tech heavy equipment sites.
Thank you, we truely want to be the place for people to come and look at golf equipment data from an unbiased viewpoint. We appreciate you taking your time to watch and comment.
What are the TXG guys doing?
These are the tests I've wanted FOREVER... controlled robot tests... real data finally.
I emailed you guys a while back about how blades and blade like irons seemingly had the best dispersion which is the opposite of what we've always been told. You took the time to write a long and thought out response. Really appreciated it and appreciate the reviews.
If you guys ever need a super nerd, engineer, scratch golfer, data guy consultant, reach out haha
We will keep you in mind! We have a feeling this channel might grow when people unbderstand our mission!
Thanks for staying in touch and watching.
You guys are revolutionizing the club testing / review process. 100% data driven and no bias because someone wasn’t particularly swinging good that day! 😉 Love it!
We have 75, 95, and 115mph programmed at the moment. Once we do our initial testing we can start to open the floodgates on all testing.
The robot testing is so important and useful. Glad Cool Clubs is committed to sharing it!
Thank you! We appreciate you taking the time to watch our content. Let everyone know this is just the beginning.
Can you guys do a comparison from last years data ( Ai Smoke ) to this years model.
They can't that would show that there hasn't been a difference in ten years.
We can do that no worries, we send our testing heads back as we get the new ones, but I am sure we can track down some for a comparison test!
Thanks very much.
Just started the video and I already know I’m going to learn something from this video. Unlike other “reviews”!
Thank you for your loyal support! Tell your friends we want to be the safe place for honest data driven reviews to help people buy the best equipment for them and play their best golf!
These videos are so good. Can't stand the subjectivity of most other "reviewers" online who don't control for other variables nearly as well (if at all). Keep it up!
We have an engineer and PHD on staff to ensure we get the best possible data. We want people to have the information that honestly allows them to buy their best clubs! Thanks for watching.
@@CoolClubs I'm a Data Scientist trained in Statistics...y'all ever decided you want another set of eyes looking at anything you let me know!
This is all the club champion audience and I love it
Not saying it was me but if you search the comments early on I was saying, "guys we need more of that sweet footage of the robot doing its thing." Glad you guys are really delivering the goods now!
Hey who knows I am sure you played a part in our inspiration!
Adding the technical details of the driver was great. Can't wait for all the testing for this year's product!
Thank you for watching and participating!
I think you guys may need to adjust the summary data graphics a little bit. The dark blue gradient at the top of the graphic at 8:03, 11:26, and 14:43 makes the top row of black text for "Ball Speed," "Toe Speed Change," and "Heel Speed Change" really difficult to read. It might look OK to you guys in the studio because you probably have your monitors/TVs set really bright to deal with the studio lights or something, but the black text against the dark blue gradient at the top of the graphic is difficult to read. It viewed it on my TV, and it is even worse on my phone. Maybe you can make that text in the top row white or just adjust the blue color gradient to not be so dark at the top.
Thanks for the feed back. The next video is uploaded with the same, but we will adjust this going forward.
Might need to take a trip back down to AZ to see you and the team for this one Mark! AWESOME review and excited to see how the channel grows!
Mark Timms has been the Godfather of club fitting and we are not going anywhere. We want to show people what really happens behind the scenes here at Cool Clubs and Worldwide golf that separates us from the rest. We hope you join us for the ride!
This likely is the only club test on TH-cam that is actually testing the club, rather than the tester.
Thank you, we appreciate the support!
The CG data is going to be great. Not for everyone but I’ll love it.
Right, we hope people start to understand that number more as we go and use it to their advantage.
Definitely like the MOI and Cg info. Good to have to compare.
Much more to come on this too.... we have a scanner that is going to blow people away. It might be a way for people to start knowing exactly what attributes they need for their game... and in the future order the exact club they need!
Lovely review
Thanks!
This is great! Thanks for sharing. Looking forward to compare Elyte TD to AI Smoke TD on Ball speed, MOI and forgiveness.
Thank you!
Fantastic video! Thanks so much. Would love to see a robot test of the new Callaway Elyte driver vs the Callaway Ai Smoke driver.
We send all of our old models back as the new ones come in.... but if we can get that done before the year is out we will!
Thanks for sharing the data. It's cool to see the robot in action. I'd be curious to see if you moved the rear weight more in line with the mishit location if the distance loss would become less, and if gear effect (directional dispersion) would also be reduced compared to the mishits with the rear weight in the center neutral position.
This is a test we have on the list. Dr Tom Mase wants to explore his theory with CG and MOI movement relative to the numbers we get on the robot, so this will be done!
Great video! Are you guys going to robot test the Takomo irons ?
We haven’t got them in our testing inventory and don’t stock them, but if we get some we will test them
This is amazing data to see. Really looking forward to the comparisons between all the drivers. Will you guys be doing this for different swing speeds as well? Hoping for 115-125 range. I’ve heard for higher swing speeds maybe the high MOI 10k models with lower lofts around 7° can be very effective. Great job guys!!
Thank you! Yes we have a 115mph test programmed in. We may have to live stream testing for a day so we can do a bunch of tests in one hit!
Hang in there with us. So much to test its a little scary.
Long live the robot!
Thank you, please let everyone know we are here to help golfers understand equipment like never before!
This video is great! Any chance you guys will be doing the new Wilson? I'm really looking forward to that club, but not all channels seem to test Wilson.
We will! We have their products on the way, after we get through the bulk of launch season we will get their gear on the robot, were excited to see how they stack up!
@@CoolClubs I'm also a fan of Wilson, all of their stuff is really nice and they are a little less pricey compared to the other big name brands, the prices are ridiculous.
Awesome. New sub here.
Thank you, we hope you enjoy the ride!
This will be fascinating to watch
We hope it was!
At a club head speed of 95mph
what are your optimal target metrics for:
spin rate?
launch angle?
- 11.3 or 11.5
- under 2300 both seem low, no?
*and what about peak height?
Would be awesome if you can have the robot swing w a more of negative attack angle and let us know what drivers and setups people like myself should test out ! I understand swing change is best but unlikely for a lot of people. So getting the most out of equipment can help
Thanks! This is on the list. We will set up an outside-in swing with a negative angle of attack and visa versa so people with different attributes can see what works for them best.
@@CoolClubs Awesome! Some say low spin drivers with high loft some say more forgiving head drivers with low loft. I’m playing the ai smoke triple diamond max (will Callaway release the elyte triple d max?) chasing the lower spin with more forgiveness like everyone else. 100-105 mph w around a -4 attack angle would a great robot test selfishly for me !
What shaft set up is being used and are these variables consistent across changing heads? Do you see a difference in shaft torsion/ball flight at impact based on shaft differences? e.g. Stock vs velocore, etc.
Fot this style testing we will use our Cool Clubs shafts made by Mitsubishi. We check them on our S3 machine to ensure they are the same: Weight, Balance point, torque, straigtness, FM, EI, deflection. We do this so the shaft in each head is basically identical and will do this for the higher speed and lower speed shafts too. This is something no other club fitting company can do.
We should do a video on how testing shafts with a robot is tough.. we have used our shaft robot (S3 Machine) to measure the static metrics of the ventus shafts you mentioned (one of our highest viewed clips this year) which you might be interested in too.
Basically we need to desgn a jig that would allow the clubhead to be in an identical position at address after swapping shafts to allow a good robot test a golf shaft.... its tough to do but we wont rule it out!
I can't wait to see the new robot's numbers on the P770, the Cobra King Tour, the Wilson CB, and the new 923 Forged. Only low dispersion clubs with forgiveness...
We are going to have some fun testing all the heads and we have another interesting tool to come! Stay tuned
Can you also Test different Swing speeds? So also 105 or 110mph
New subscriber for a few months.
In September 2023 I was custom fit for TSR3 driver at 2ndSwing in DE on trackman indoors. Avg. #'s: CHS: 96.2 mph, Ball speed: 142.5 mph, smash: 1.48, Carry: 238.7 yds. Spin: 2319 rpm, Launch: 17.1 deg. Height: 107 ft. Landing angle: 40.2 deg. I was fitted into a HZDRS red CB 6.0 50 gram shaft. what is your take on my numbers and the shaft i was fitted into? Out on the course with a good solid strike, my avg. carry is about 245 and with good roll out i get to about 265-270 yards. I'm 60 yrs young and been playing for nearly 35 years
What is the relation between Trackman indoors vs Foresight ? CHS at 96 mph on trackman indoors would be equal to what on Foresight ?
Your numbers are solid, think of the shaft like a timing mechanism, how often can you hit it where you want with these ballistics? The head produces most of the numbers and the shaft allows it to happen more consistenly (and fine tune numbers as needed).
Trackman and Foresight measure at slightly different moments, we love Foresight for robot testing as it gives us feedback on exactly where the club was right around impact. Trackman is great (especially with RCT balls). We use Trackman in our outdoor fittings to give the best possible down range data.
Speed wise as a general rule Foresight will read a little higher than TM and this will be amplified at higher speeds. At your speed you would only see 1 or 2mph difference max
P.S Your numbers are great for 60 years young!
@ thank you !
I forgot to mention I used an RCT proV1x ball during my custom fit. Also, starting with my 2016 M2 a few years ago I had to go with a counterbalanced shaft and continued with my current TSR3. Every time I try to use a non-counterbalanced shaft my spin goes up into the high 3000 4000 RPM range can you explain why?
Taking swing tips from that robot....love the low and slow takeaway :)
We can't wait to make it perform some interesting swings.
The only way this is a helpful test is comparing it to last year's to see if any improvement. Too many reviewers are sucking up to Callaway right now for a free driver and raving about it but no one has really done a major comparison to last year's. And they will be sucking up to TM, Titleist and others soon as they come out with new ones. These things are $600....what does it buy us? In the past 5 years, the answer is very little to sometimes backwards. We need comparative tests or the data is useless. Thanks and hope to see some of that in the fututre.
We are able to compare and we will, head here to see older model testing: coolclubs.com/reviews/
Golf nerds assemble!! 👌
This is a safe space for all golf nerds! :D
Compare it with something - anything - AI Smoke would make sense!
We will this is just to kick us off.
We also hear this comment a lot. We will most likely compare to previous years models as this is what people want, in reality people purchase drivers every few years so we should really be going back to OG Paradym or prior to simulate a buying cycle gain.
This video, and the ones that follow, should really jump-start your numbers of subscribers. Once you get a few more drivers tested, and in your database, we should be able to see which drivers are perhaps better for our particular needs. Thanks Jack, Mark, and now Glenn as well.
Thank you, we want to be the best out there, hopefully that brings the subscribers so we can have the best & most informed audience in the golf equipment space! We will test all the new products, at all kinds of speeds. It's a little scary to think how much we have to come but it should make for golf geek heaven!
Been looking for a channel like this for years. I bet they will have 100K+ sub in a month or two.
We hope so! Help us on our journey to 100k by sharing our content. Thanks for the comment.
Do you guys make sure the head is pured on the shaft before you do the test, or is this straight off the rack?
Yes, we check all the shafts for quality and correct specifications with our S3 machine and then pure them to make sure we have taken things as far as we can.
@@CoolClubs Nice! That’s what we like to hear!
Comparison vs AI Smoke please. Otherwise really not persuasive at all.
Interesting that toe hits go straight when bulge and roll theory says it should draw.
We will get some comparison pieces done… for the record, we are not here to persuade anything… just to give you data that helps you make your best decision.
The toe hit started right and came back online due to roll and bulge so it did as it should
@CoolClubs thanks for the reply. Objectively, stand alone results don't mean much when it's a new model every year and there is no new technology. Cally claims 1 more year of data makes this new face better...well really..
The Robot is great and what you guys are doing with it.
don't fail to give the LS the poke. test it's limit,
what does it do at 115pmh ,120mph, 125 and 130? will the face bounce still work as designed?
Which balls are better for that speed
what does a stiff and SX at that speed do?
where's the limit to the design and function?
you may just find the face has a sweet spot at a certain swing speed, at what speed the the trampoline effect no longer works? and at what slow speed does it not function as well? ( If I have a swing speed at 85-90 and I buy a driver that functions best at 95-100, or it's design is best at 110-115, then why waste the money.
This data is very interesting to collect as it would help buyer decide what it worth buying. It may be data that the companies don't really want you to know the limits of their products.
We already cut ball to see which are the most constant.
Drivers and shafts should be pushed to there extremes, both ends too.
Thanks for the suggestions, we already have a few of those tested calibrated into the robot. 115mph for instance will happen soon!
Shafts are harder to test but never say never. We will give the LS a poke.... in fact that will be the first test it gets! Thanks for watching.
We see people doing the pause at the top tempo now. But I am going to start a new tempo and call it The Robot. 😂
LETS GO
Were back and this is just the beginning!
All clubs should be compared on a robot swinger. IMO!
We think so!
I think you meant to say pushing the price forward. That's the only thing these big brands are good at now.
Our channel is here to investigate performance not price.
I love the robot! I want to see Tesla Optimus Robot hitting someday, Elon would love that!
Elon.... can we get one please?
robot dont lie
Thats right.. Data-Driven Reviews!
You guys need to watch a TXG video. It’s really helpful when we see it hit where it hits on the face. I don’t know. I’m falling asleep with your video. There’s too much yap and not enough show. I would rather not see Percentages drop off I’d rather see numbers.
So you just want us to show impact location? For the record it is center or 0.75" off center heel and toe
Thanks for the feedback
Can we see this kind of testing for higher swing speeds at 115+ mph please! Forgiveness is most important for faster players.
100%! We have calibrated a 115mph test and will predominantly review the lower spin heads at this speed but will venture into the core models too.
@@CoolClubs Awesome! Looking forward to it. As a higher speed player (120-122mph) with a pretty neutral delivery (1-2 from the inside and roughly 2* up) with a toe-sided miss, I prefer something with a fade-biased CG, but I need something that still spins. I get lots of shots spinning at 1,600RPM with mid-high 170's ball speed. The good ones are great, but the bad ones are horrendous.
@@andersfrederiksen-winnipeg5516 Im sure we can work out some answers for you!
Same spiel different year
We are not running a company line, we are testing to see performance data to allow people to make more informed choices.
These might be the most boring club review videos in history.
Each to their own.... we are going for a data driven approach that is not opinion based and hones in on anyone just hitting a club.
Timms has been doing this since you were in diapers son. Best be recognizing
I loved this review!