Eurostar - Alstom TMST E300 vs Siemens E320

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  • New E320 trains (Class 374) are gradually being introduced on Eurostar routes. Some TMST set (Class 373) are refurbished (Eurostar E300).

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  • @Tyme_Whyrlwynd
    @Tyme_Whyrlwynd 7 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    I used to call the older models "singing trains" because of their unique and beautiful sound. That is what a real high speed train is supposed to sound like.

  • @User-3O3
    @User-3O3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    The sound of a Class 373 passing at speed is one of the greatest sounds I have ever heard in my life. The aesthetics of the 373 are timeless - it looked like something from of the future in 1994 and still does more than 25 years later. While the 374 might be an all-round superior design to its predecessor; it can never live up to its pedigree.

    • @Yosh-wt4lg
      @Yosh-wt4lg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      its not really a superior design. In terms of being a high speed train, the TMST is better than the SIemens (In design, the TMST is both more stable and comfortable during high speeds, and also safer). But the Siemens has more seats and is wider (because it didnt have to follow british loading guage).

  • @bonkersdude9844
    @bonkersdude9844 8 ปีที่แล้ว +203

    I love the alstom sound more than the Siemens sound

    • @mpfy2k
      @mpfy2k 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      TAT thetrainguy me to

    • @marcusalexander3910
      @marcusalexander3910 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hcæ o

    • @UberChargedTV
      @UberChargedTV 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      not just only the sound, also the overall design

    • @Unix_0
      @Unix_0 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      TGV TMST

    • @156abellio
      @156abellio 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      BonkersDude I Agree But The E320 Has More Seats

  • @darrenmccoy
    @darrenmccoy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +147

    The original Eurostar is the most beautiful high speed train ever made.

    • @xfeb388
      @xfeb388 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree.

    • @ameerali.ouarda
      @ameerali.ouarda 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Not going to lie the e320 has set a new level, looks even better than the DB ICE

    • @travelwithaoi7140
      @travelwithaoi7140 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The ice 3 is the most beautiful and more fast than the Eurostar 373

    • @westy6214
      @westy6214 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@travelwithaoi7140 ICE 3, 403/406/407 and ICE-T are amazing

    • @vojta4045
      @vojta4045 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Tgv reseau is also beautiful

  • @Dbiza
    @Dbiza 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Le bruit typique des TMST ❤️ de l'ASMR ça .

  • @MangoMan60103
    @MangoMan60103 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Where I live I can hear the howling of the Eurostar trains when they come off the Medway bridge and through a tunnel about ten mins from the bridge

    • @meandwhoism
      @meandwhoism 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well lucky you...

  • @lausimeyer6558
    @lausimeyer6558 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Best thing of the old Eurostar trains was third rail (750 V = ) ability. That made those trains really special and made it possible to bring modern trains to britain.

  • @sergiokodemo6925
    @sergiokodemo6925 7 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    The Siemens E320 can be a more modern train, but I prefer the Alstom design and sound.

  • @opicatchu2164
    @opicatchu2164 8 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    without hesitation ....Alsthom for the "sound" !!!! but both are beautiful !!!

  • @Wirralspotter
    @Wirralspotter 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I love the sound of the 373, always have, always will

  • @darkfighter3333
    @darkfighter3333 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    When that E320 passes by, i miss that "woew woew woew" sound of e300 carriages and motorwagens racing by

    • @michaelk.608
      @michaelk.608 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Das liegt daran, dass der TGV kürzere Wagons hat!

    • @StagecoachLondonEnthauist
      @StagecoachLondonEnthauist 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@michaelk.608 Speak English

  • @trainlover658
    @trainlover658 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Alstom just has this look and sound that is just-...
    Iconic. Something the microwave/TV branded train will never live up to...

    • @fuyo5834
      @fuyo5834 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol microwave and TV

    • @ttvvideos2050
      @ttvvideos2050 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shitachi

    • @westy6214
      @westy6214 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Class 800 🤮

    • @ttvvideos2050
      @ttvvideos2050 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@westy6214 fully agree

  • @soundseeker63
    @soundseeker63 8 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I must say the older sets in the new livery look and sound superb!

    • @esthermckenna3149
      @esthermckenna3149 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The original livery has the better interior, but the newer one has a nicer livery

  • @stephenbinkley
    @stephenbinkley 7 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    the old ones looked cooler and sounded better

  • @Unix_0
    @Unix_0 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    i like the TGV TMST more then the class 374
    really brings up good memories

  • @georgecrane8250
    @georgecrane8250 8 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    i swear the E320 is just an ice 3 (which is a german high speed train) repainted

    • @verhulstlucetsab
      @verhulstlucetsab 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes

    • @nagierwin5705
      @nagierwin5705 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Might of George Crane

    • @JulesSchattenberg
      @JulesSchattenberg 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ICE 4 you mean?

    • @Cloudrak
      @Cloudrak 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      You mean the ICE Velaro D?

    • @steffenreimann2854
      @steffenreimann2854 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      iZyxel
      What are you talking about? All 17 Velaro D running smoothly in Germany and France. And their door windows are rectangular too.

  • @lamontcranston4436
    @lamontcranston4436 7 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    The old Eurostar was so much nicer. More comfy, quieter and more spacious. The new sets and interiors are the product of spreadsheet imagination. Great shame.

    • @zeisselgaertner3212
      @zeisselgaertner3212 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Lamont Cranston
      That was the decision of Eurostar.
      Instead of adapting the quiet elegant and classical interior of the German ICE3 they took an Italian design studio to creat something unique :)

    • @kiyahicks356
      @kiyahicks356 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The one that looks bad and makes those horrendous noises

    •  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Seriously !? I was not lucky and by two times, my train got changed by the vintage Eurostar. Travelling in it was so uncomfortable with seats tilted forward, too low. I had cramps all over my legs.

    • @paulhester1675
      @paulhester1675 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My first and to date only trip on the Eurostar was on the e300 . I thought they were very comfortable and nicely styled inside and out, Hopefully I get to go again and try out the new sets this year.

    • @treinspotterhoofddorp9841
      @treinspotterhoofddorp9841 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It isn’t more spacious... It’s very cramped because of the weird british track gauge. I really hated the trains(partially because of a 45 minutes delay)

  • @Cactus732
    @Cactus732 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nothing beats the sound of the E300, especially that roar of the power cars at low speed.

  • @unofficialleeds9084
    @unofficialleeds9084 7 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    From an external perspective at speed, the 373's in the new livery (absolutely unbeatable sound) just beats the 374's. However, from a passanger and engineering perspective, the 374 is better. Both are incredible trains though.

    • @basictransportenthusiast4386
      @basictransportenthusiast4386 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Chris Holloway I rode in a 374 as a passenger and it was rattly loud and very rock hard and uncomfortable. It vibrates too much and I just did not find it fun to sit in for 5 hours. The 373 is very comfy and is spacious. The 373 rides a lot smoother and doesn’t vibrate. But I would agree that the engineer would like the 374 better

    • @dansolo6417
      @dansolo6417 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@basictransportenthusiast4386 I guess the new models are quicker and hold more people which means more money (and less comfort) on each journey which is what they want as it's a business after all and they probably designed better in terms of less defects that bugged the original Eurostars and probably the reason why they reached the end of their lives so soon.
      aesthetically the Alstrom units looked way better and i loved the sounds it makes when at high speeds!

    • @pirozcontractor6006
      @pirozcontractor6006 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dansolo6417 The sets for the 373 were articulated, hence the much smoother ride. The E320, however, reverted to traditional two bogie carriage sets which might explain the rattly ride. If I say so myself, it comes off as a bit of a backwards design step.

    • @Yosh-wt4lg
      @Yosh-wt4lg 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The new one isn't "better" but cheaper to maintain, the old ones actually are safer in a lot of ways, but were to expensive and required too much maintenance compared to the new ones.
      And the new ones actually are less energy efficient because they consume 10% more energy than the old ones.

  • @noahshoesmith4106
    @noahshoesmith4106 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    1:14 put on ur headphones at half way volume its so cool

  • @sherringhamnse2627
    @sherringhamnse2627 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Can't beat the sound of a Class 373/E300 at speed.

  • @breeze1472
    @breeze1472 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    not same not having the ooshing sound as the e300 have.love that

  • @duncanbhaltaireanraigwilso9627
    @duncanbhaltaireanraigwilso9627 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like the way the track-side has been planted.

  • @Trainsforlife89
    @Trainsforlife89 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Magnifique....or should i say sugoi desu!!! Amazing shots, really professional trainspotting here!! Eurostar have done an amazing job in choosing rolling stock. It's sad to see the majority of 373 trains retiring...

    • @ErebosSan
      @ErebosSan  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you (ou should I say efcharisto!). I like 373 series too.

    • @Trainsforlife89
      @Trainsforlife89 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      ErebosSan Domo arigato, Erebos san! Keep up your amazing trainspotting action! Also looking forward to your next trip to Japan, i am a big fan of the Japanese railways!

    • @ErebosSan
      @ErebosSan  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I return to Japan next November :-)

    • @Trainsforlife89
      @Trainsforlife89 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      ErebosSan Looking forward to some new videos from Nihon!

  • @alexoverton152
    @alexoverton152 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the new velaro trains, but I love the sound older Alstom trains make with the shorter cars.

  • @kyle123481
    @kyle123481 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Awesome Video, I really like Eurostars!!

  • @TrainzDr3ver
    @TrainzDr3ver 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Belle compilation! =D
    Elles sont déja très sale!

    • @ErebosSan
      @ErebosSan  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      oui, malheureusement...

  • @variouxical4897
    @variouxical4897 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I Like the Old eurostar alot more but Why is the new one look like a repainted DB Class 407/406?

    • @ErebosSan
      @ErebosSan  7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Because it is derived from the DB Class 407.

  • @williamradford9631
    @williamradford9631 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never been on the new Euro Star E320s, they never stop at Ashford. The standard Euro Stars are great, nice seats and on board buffet

  • @멘둬
    @멘둬 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    E300 new paint is very beautiful

  • @williamradford9631
    @williamradford9631 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The standard Euro star looks awesome, with its power cars, Bogies between the coaches, so races around corners like a TGV

  • @hmasonhicks
    @hmasonhicks 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Actually, I prefer the look and the general level of passenger comfort (seats and interior appointments) of the Siemens trainsets, but the ride quality of the old Alstom trainsets is far superior. This is best experienced inside the Eurotunnel itself: There, the Alstom trainsets felt like they were stationary. Inside the blackness of the tunnel, there were few motion queues to indicate the speed that you were traveling. However, the Seimens trainsets have all the motion and track sway that you would experience on normally exposed tracks...

  • @KoploperMau
    @KoploperMau 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Nice thumbnail. :p I have spent 4 hours along the LGV Nord last month and I didn't see the TMST in new livery, unfortunately. :-( I did see a lot of other Eurostars though. :-)

    • @ErebosSan
      @ErebosSan  8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Today, there are only three refurbished TMST. Hard to see one!

    • @darlinelundy8819
      @darlinelundy8819 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      kopomesmo ce London out😺🚄🚃🚌🚇

    • @MS46532
      @MS46532 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      KoploperMau hi

    • @misahohimeima1981
      @misahohimeima1981 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ErebosSan It’s sand now that the last TMST set has gone out of service, it’s just the loco’s left now.

  • @mrlegoboeingfan6749
    @mrlegoboeingfan6749 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I liove the E300 better because I love the classic Hum sound when it passes.

  • @Metal85King
    @Metal85King 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    j'aime vraiment beaucoup tes vidéos

  • @irelandbloke
    @irelandbloke 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent shots ! 👍

    • @ErebosSan
      @ErebosSan  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks!

    • @irelandbloke
      @irelandbloke 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ErebosSan You're welcome !

  • @CraftyPeach1
    @CraftyPeach1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Am I acvtually one of those people that don't hate on both of them?
    I like both of them.
    Likes of e320:
    Nice aerodynamics, looks modern.
    Has more seats, and is longer.
    The right requirements to go to the Netherlands(which it is)
    A cool sound when it departs.
    Can go up to 320km/h.
    Likes of TMST:
    Really nice sound when it departs.
    Old, but fast.
    They look pretty cool.
    It just has that..thing to it.
    When you pass it, it goes either wooowooowooo, or vevevee(I cannot reproduce the sounds)
    Can go up to 300km/h. (Not as fast as the e320s, mind you.)
    Both of them are good in my opinion.

  • @SadieTwinsG
    @SadieTwinsG ปีที่แล้ว +2

    top 1 best sounds in the world
    no1. 0:48

  • @LaChaineTGV
    @LaChaineTGV 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Superbe vidéo ! avec tous les Eurostar de la famille TMST et les nouveaux ! la seule prise de vue qu'il manque est d'avoir saisi un des trains sur la bif de Vémars en direction du Sud ! mais ça vaut 20/20 !!!

    • @ErebosSan
      @ErebosSan  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Merci Silvio. A 1:48 je suis à Louvres, c'est pas très loin !

  • @temslink2000
    @temslink2000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The problem i have is the og livery and logo was better imo if thet wanted to update it maybe make the doors a destinct colour to help the blind but secondly the thing i like about the alstom tmst e300/br373 is how it built on the arguably better platform of the tgv (and i still think its better than the siemens units even if the modern designs are fugly) but also the old units were a joint venture between gec in the UK, alstom in france and BN in Belgium providing jobs for the 3 contries in which the units would be serving, selling the job off to siemens seems like a low blow for a europe that is supposed to be working together yet all the orders seem to be going to siemens at the expense of the workers in the countries in which these units serve

  • @TuukkaVarjoranta
    @TuukkaVarjoranta 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video with some good shots of both series!

  • @bowlerwildcatGaming1991
    @bowlerwildcatGaming1991 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the old trains they look and sound awesome

  • @1cmman
    @1cmman 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great footage and nice angles, wish I could see these trains for real but they don´t exist in my country. I think the Siemens trains are rather noisy when driving off especially compared to the Shinkansen which is far more quiet.

    • @tankman_tv9332
      @tankman_tv9332 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its a siemens, they always flex the noise of their motors lol, even on their diesels (one example the sc-44) the motor is louder than the engine itself

  • @TM-fz9je
    @TM-fz9je 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ah de bon souvenirs de Juin dernier lorsque je suis parti en voyage scolaire à Londres.
    Moi les TMST sont mes rames préférées parce que ce sont des rames qui ressemble à notre TGV français et puis j'aime bien le bruit à grande vitesse.
    Alors que les e320, le bruit à grande vitesse est plus silencieux mais on dirait le bruit d'un passage de TGV sur une ligne classique.

    • @darlinelundy8819
      @darlinelundy8819 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Selon le train 320 cilometre se tro rapide que a TGV 250 cilometre ce tro rapide pour toi!

    • @darlinelundy8819
      @darlinelundy8819 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      celon letra ta pas le temps perdu il me pe passe pas à la gare

  • @jackcassady9786
    @jackcassady9786 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i am one of your subscribers because i love trains

  • @LudoTrain
    @LudoTrain 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Belle vidéo ! Niveau esthétique, je préfère l'ancienne version, et non la nouvelle déjà pour son bruit qui fait plus train que l'E320 dont le bruit n'est pas vraiment évocateur, et pour la livrée je prendrais la nouvelle appliquées sur les TMST!

  • @Ferrouest
    @Ferrouest 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Belle vidéo ! Combien de TMST seront rénovées en e300 ? En tout cas, je trouve que la nouvelle livrée est vraiment magnifique...

  • @TheBritishAce
    @TheBritishAce 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love 374 sounds

    • @Dbiza
      @Dbiza 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      #BR373 WINNER FOR SOUNDS

    • @Dbiza
      @Dbiza 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      #E300 WOOSH WOOWOOWOOWOOWOOWOOWOOWOOWOOOWOOWOOWOOWOO WOOSH so relaxing .

  • @christianfalke121
    @christianfalke121 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:35 Typical german ICE sound 😱. At high velocity I really must admit that the fast waggon change of the alstom eurostar sounds very impressive and demonstrates the high-speed ability. The Velaro Eurostar instead sounds a little bit boring but more continous and silent. Maybe good for people which are affected from the track noise.

  • @owenevans83
    @owenevans83 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great footage.

  • @SouthCoastTrainspotter
    @SouthCoastTrainspotter 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome Video

  • @elnido9907
    @elnido9907 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looks like your not all wrong there about the original Eurostars.
    They do look and sound more powerful as they pass with that uuuummmmpphhhh in them as each carriage passes and less rattles as they have articulated boggies.
    They want very reliable however in the winter when snow and ice got into their large side vents.
    Alstoms AGV used in italy never been used back on home soil yet.
    Also on youtube there is a video called Abandoned Eurostar that is now scrapped with graffeti on it in the middle of nowhere in France.
    The video on You Tube is The abandoned eurostar train.

  • @PlanesTrainsFan
    @PlanesTrainsFan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The e300 is my 3 favourite train after the intercity 125 and 225

  • @BobNewbie
    @BobNewbie 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It appears that the class 374's have more pantographs than the 373's, but i was expecting at least 4, seems to be more than that

    • @ErebosSan
      @ErebosSan  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      A class 374 trainset has 8 pantographs: one for each current system (25 kVac, 15 kVac, 3 kVdc, 1.5 kVdc), all duplicated for redundancy.

    • @BobNewbie
      @BobNewbie 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh I see, thanks

  • @cholloway0046
    @cholloway0046 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dont worry if you dont like the new Eurostar - I hear they replace their trains once every Twenty years.

    • @kiyahicks356
      @kiyahicks356 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      or you just googled how long 373s were in service for and just said what you said.

  • @davidmoore1253
    @davidmoore1253 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the design of the old Eurostar. The new one looks a bit fat to me. I just prefer 20th century aesthetics, it seems.
    I assume these are all in France? I'm British and I noticed there doesn't seem to be much fencing to protect the track. I've just read about a eurostar colliding with a wild boar in France; I doubt that would happen here, even if we had wild boar. Certainly here in London the railways are protected like fortresses.
    Nice camerawork by the way, could go on TV!

    • @ErebosSan
      @ErebosSan  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're right, an Eurostar train hit a boar near Calais last November. High speed lines are always protected by fences (see at 1:24). Perhaps was there a damaged fence?

  • @DB_137
    @DB_137 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like how the new Siemens e320s look, but I think I prefer the old class 373 e300s

  • @jackpez
    @jackpez 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    E300 has its own design while the E320 is literally just an Ice Velaro D repainted

  • @lausimeyer6558
    @lausimeyer6558 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    E320 is the best train, Eurostar could get. German perfection.

  • @chrispaw1
    @chrispaw1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I prefer the original eurostar trains i think...

  • @ptitguerrier13
    @ptitguerrier13 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Très belle vidéo! :)

  • @basictransportenthusiast4386
    @basictransportenthusiast4386 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The old ones are a lot more comfortable than the new ones. And the new ones are tight so the Alstom ones are way better. And the new ones rattle more than the old ones.

  • @bugofcake
    @bugofcake 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Alstom just makes the best trains, simple

  • @johnbarber6433
    @johnbarber6433 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The new design of the Eurostar e320 is fussy and bizarre. There are fewer seats with window views than the previous model e300 ....but I note that the luggage racks are next to windows. Unbelievable! Was this model actually designed by a person or by a robot?

  • @victoriacook734
    @victoriacook734 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    New Year of stars are the Eurostar E300 is my favourite train in the world in the whole wide

  • @jakiymajnun
    @jakiymajnun 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's type of 2 coach in the middle that's put between some others coach that has large window it's only there's two coach?

  • @TrainNutter
    @TrainNutter 8 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I prefer the e300.

    • @Klonoa
      @Klonoa 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      TrainNutter me too

    • @sullybully
      @sullybully 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      jayr kevin I agree à lot 😄
      Not because I'm French 😂😂 But the TMST is nice to see

    • @hamesjeff
      @hamesjeff 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same

    • @hamesjeff
      @hamesjeff 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I like the E300 better because it looks better and I love trains

    • @johnboscosekyewa269
      @johnboscosekyewa269 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Arapalpjl fflkatkx thttttjjj1st

  • @donaldthomson7682
    @donaldthomson7682 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I Live near Didcot Oxfordshire, were they are just installing the gantries for electrifying the line . I would like to know why it is that the Eurostar lines gantries are just like street lampposts (unobtrusive ) were as the ones going in at Didcot are great big ugly heavy steel girders. Are us brits being 'RIPPED OFF AGAIN '

    • @Cloudrak
      @Cloudrak 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same thing there I live... (Slough)

  • @Beefandbird412
    @Beefandbird412 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The e300 sounds more better. It is more comfy. The seats don’t even recline at all in the e320.

  • @hierony5471
    @hierony5471 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    E320 looks much better, but I agree the old ones sound better

    • @Croco140
      @Croco140 ปีที่แล้ว

      What ? This horrible thing looks like an earthworm

  • @CoolTransport
    @CoolTransport 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the 373 has the better noise however I like the look of the 374 more

  • @railvideography8362
    @railvideography8362 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    i will always like the old ones...
    even though there alot louder and longer and less efficient i like them
    i think they should run them down the Midland mainline and use the HST for the ECML/WCML
    they'll always be better than the newer e320

  • @zacharygolomb9769
    @zacharygolomb9769 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The E300s are much cooler than the E320s, but I love the new paint scheme.

  • @chillinbro5423
    @chillinbro5423 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Both are good

  • @DieselDudeRailway
    @DieselDudeRailway 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video.

  • @awesometrainsandbuses
    @awesometrainsandbuses 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mr bean was on the Eurostar E300, that’s why I like E300

  • @LumaControl
    @LumaControl 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    is the alstom tmst is more TGV/TGV-Thalys like?

  • @たまゆう
    @たまゆう 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ユーロスターもカッコいいですね!!

  • @AirRailTales
    @AirRailTales 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd prefer the e300 to the e320 😎amazing vid

    • @ErebosSan
      @ErebosSan  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most people prefer the E300/TMST/Class 373!

    • @AirRailTales
      @AirRailTales 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good because it s actually a descent 🚆😎

  • @VinneighPinneigh
    @VinneighPinneigh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The old one sounded better but I personally like the new colour scheme more

  • @OntarioTrafficMan
    @OntarioTrafficMan 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dommage que l'e320 manque le bruit magnifique du TMST à pleine vitesse, mais c'est probablement une indication que sa forme est plus aérodynamique.

    • @ErebosSan
      @ErebosSan  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      oui, et il y a aussi la ventilation des blocs moteurs qui participe au bruit caractéristique des TMST.

    • @Dbiza
      @Dbiza 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ErebosSan le SIFFLEMENT DES BOGGIES 😍 / autre choses

    • @Dbiza
      @Dbiza 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ErebosSan le SIFFLEMENT DES BOGGIES 😍 / autre choses

  • @alwantamalus3709
    @alwantamalus3709 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just enjoy the silence before and after train passage.

  • @therealracer_1476
    @therealracer_1476 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    That sound of that Alstom sounds more like a F1 that goes fast

  • @TrainsOfEurope
    @TrainsOfEurope 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Très belle vidéo! Ou à tu filmés la vidéo de 1:50? Merci!

    • @ErebosSan
      @ErebosSan  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      49.036772, 2.520655

    • @TrainsOfEurope
      @TrainsOfEurope 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks!

    • @ErebosSan
      @ErebosSan  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      TrainsOfEurope
      You're welcome!

  • @denelson83
    @denelson83 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Also known as PBL vs PBLA Eurostar sets.

  • @fugf1623
    @fugf1623 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another exemple how Old things can be better than the newest one. And its not nostalgia, the old eurostar are better in every damn categories, except acceleration maybe. Those units are 27 yo ...

  • @mathieujouan
    @mathieujouan 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is there no colour chart at Eurostar? Why do the new trains not use the same blue and the same yellow? The new colours look cheap.

  • @Hobomayoy
    @Hobomayoy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I miss the whistle made by the older model.

  • @xx-superklak-xx8254
    @xx-superklak-xx8254 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Les deux siemens E320 cote à cote sont dans quelle gare ?

  • @itzepicgaming_774
    @itzepicgaming_774 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Eurostar 320 is better because its up to date tech. It looks much sleeker, more energy effecient, and carries more passenger, which means more money for Eurostar. The cars are longer than Class 373. 373 was sucked because it corroded very fast.

  • @lesferroviairedu9581
    @lesferroviairedu9581 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:49 c'est où
    Et pourquoi il y a un wagon non rénové et la tête du train rénové 3:22

    • @ErebosSan
      @ErebosSan  ปีที่แล้ว

      Quand la rénovation des TMST a commencé, il y a d'abord eu des motrices rénovées, d'où cette composition étrange.

  • @domigogms6745
    @domigogms6745 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    hope type E300 will back with new TGV M model. otherwise this sound will be missed in

  • @tchautdefrance9982
    @tchautdefrance9982 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Je préfère Alstom TMST E300 eurostart que les Siemens E320

  • @StagecoachLondonEnthauist
    @StagecoachLondonEnthauist 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I Love 373!

  • @aerocap
    @aerocap ปีที่แล้ว

    0:47 👍👍👍

  • @thethirdman225
    @thethirdman225 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone know why the E320 dispensed with the Jacobs bogey design? I found it really good for moving between carriages compared with the split design (which I have only experienced on the Shinkansen).

    • @ErebosSan
      @ErebosSan  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      On TMST/E300, powered bogies are located at each end of the train and Jacobs bogies are used between trailer cars. E320 uses distributed traction, that gives more space for passengers, but it is hard to comply with a maximum axle load of 17 tons (limit for high speed lines) with Jacobs bogies.

    • @thethirdman225
      @thethirdman225 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ErebosSan Okay thanks but aren't the E300 carriages shorter to compensate for that?

    • @ErebosSan
      @ErebosSan  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes they are (E300: 18.7m; E320: 24.2m)

    • @Yosh-wt4lg
      @Yosh-wt4lg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ErebosSan actually it is simply because Alstom owns the technology

  • @Unix_0
    @Unix_0 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1:34
    anyone noticed the plane in the background?

    • @ErebosSan
      @ErebosSan  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      We are close to Charles-de-Gaulle airport.

    • @Unix_0
      @Unix_0 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      ooh thats why
      still great video ;)

  • @aewctev
    @aewctev 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Imagine a new train with the look of the E320, and the sound and whoosing of the E300

  • @t13trainz49
    @t13trainz49 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Salut , j'aimerais savoir ou sont tes poses a 1:40 et 2:07
    C'est hyper propre comme plans

    • @ErebosSan
      @ErebosSan  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      La première séquence c'est à Moussy le neuf, au niveau de la bifurcation avec la LGV d'interconnexion. La seconde je ne suis pas sûr, ça doit être du côté de Ver sur Launette.

    • @t13trainz49
      @t13trainz49 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ErebosSan Super merci !

  • @nemesis_s1755
    @nemesis_s1755 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Alstom is the "master" designer and train creator. The TGV (e320) is bette and moreau beautiful than the Siemens e320.
    French perfection and design + sound

    • @Dbiza
      @Dbiza 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      E300