This is one of the most interesting lectures I've ever heard! It's incredible the puzzles that can be solved from such limited information. I also saw a video of how you deciphered the rules to the Royal Game of Ur. Thank you for uncovering our history!
I just happen to have my debit card handy and am willing to use it. I expect your humor to be a little more on the dry side for the book? No matter, you are obviously intelligent and your input on ancient history will be, no doubt, interesting. You sold me on the idea.
Smashing! Absolutely smashing! Well good chap I dare say that was undoubtedly the witty-est and most enjoyable speech! Bravo ! Very informative and great bursts of humor throughout. Needless to say, but I must, that was a jolly good show you! I will check out your book in support of what seems to be your life's work and passion. Thank you for this pleasurable experience. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Vos, Christian
I absolutely loved it. I watched it twice, once many months ago, and now here I am again, on a quest to gain my TH-cam PhD in ancient history. Thank you for helping me on my quest
Thank God for TH-cam. Can you imagine this lecture would only be available to a handful of people in that room! That would be a real shame. It's absolutely delightful, in content and delivery! ❤❤❤❤
The audio quality is horrid. _`God`_ forbid they remaster the audio, out of the Neolithic age of analog technology & into the digital age, to at least lessen the echo, while also reducing the background noise, to something reasonable. The echo and the background noise, coupled with _`Her Majesty's`_ British accent, make this video completely unworthy of wasting my time trying to watch, and listen, to it. Thumb's down!
@@MorpheusOne-- ...listening to a Good British Storyteller is simply a matter of de-tuning your Modern Ear to let the language flow around- and over you -- as if you are watching Shakespeare performed in its original accent... You've expended at least TWICE as much effort & energy in compiling your pedantic Complaints about this presentation than it would have taken you to just run the video 2 times -- the first to watch the images as you let the audio play in the 'background', and the second to enjoy HEARING the tale which Professor/Doctor Finkle is telling...
The ratios are also present in the consruction of a pllace called stone henge, and in the construction of churches and mosque.. In Christian mythology they come from the tree of knowledge and there is a sequence of cosines that go with it the mythology described as a serpent. The academic canon ask that people are not told this. Barthes wrote something about the mythology in the 1950's and added "I can see the thunder clouds on the horizon as I writre.. Cant control the internet.
What an apt comparison. Somewhat scatter-brained whilst muttering arcane knowledge to himself and explaining in disjointed phrases. The world needs experts like these :)
100%, and while he's at it he really does personify a wonderful character of Englishness which does, just a smidgen, leave one thinking: "Perhaps, in the bemusingly witty intelligence of our finest eccentrics we did have a valid claim for world domination after all." I know, a truly terrible thing to say, but there it is 😉 [PS. I think Erwin Saunders, professor of pixie studies who has a wonderful youtube channel here must have largely been inspired by Irvin Finkel - the names have a rather similar ring to them too.]
He’s off his Dried frog pills. (these are pills made chiefly from frogs, specifically the extremely poisonous ones that live in the vivarium at Unseen University)
This is the kind of man who if given a billion dollars, wouldn’t retire. “I finally have enough money to research everything I want to” he’d spend every last penny on discovery and spreading that knowledge
First thing I must say, having listened to many many speakers on a variety of subjects, is...... What a wonderful speaker! A gem! A delight! A rarity! Most people who speak, no matter what the subject is.... shouldn't. This was a real treat! Thank you for not only being educational and sharing your knowledge and wisdom, but for making it interesting and entertaining.
I should have greatly enjoyed being one of the Americans he allegedly chased after to explain that the bit about the heads of departments arriving at the museum on elephants was not true. The comedic possibilities of understanding that it was a joke in the first place and pretending to believe it despite all claims to the contrary are pure gold.
Excellent tone, volume, pace, body gestures, confidence, humility , humor, word choice, and directions for looking at the visuals. The clear historical orientation, design principles, lecture delivery, and encouragement to keep learning after the lecture. Thanks very much, Dr. Finkel. GB
I can't even put into words how captivated I was until the end. I drank in every detail. Of course, a curator. Perfect! Your mind never stops expanding with ideas and the ages
Irving Finkel is an international treasure. His particular gift to us is to make the ancients just as human as we are and thus just as relatable as our next-door neighbors. It has the dual effect of humbling the ancients and elevating us. He should live until 120 and never stop writing, teaching, researching and discovering.
Does he have any writings on cuneiform dictionary grammar? Cuneiform characters can only be understood by himself, so can people who read his books not understand it? This shows that he is a fake, a fake person!
@@beamazed1162 your online on utube asking questions about things you can find the answers for if you Google your questions. A quick answer, yes , men have been studying and translating cuneiform for around 150 years.. Go look at some examples of cuneiform translated into English .
I have no idea how I found this lecture, but without a doubt, this is the best lecture I've ever heard in my life!!! I was sitting on the edge of my seat the entire time, though there was a time or two when I thought I just might fall out of my seat because I was laughing so hard--- laughing because of Irving Finkel's sense of humor and his comedic delivery. And I'm STILL chuckling over those goats! LOL
Yes.. awesome. Really brilliant. I have though encountered a couple of other equally brilliant lectures.... one by Jim Mathews proving that James Clerk Maxwell is the greatest scientist ever, and the other, so long ago I forget the lecturers name but will never forget the amazing history of the Azania people of the four corners region.
@@jackieking1522 i looked for about 10 mins trying to find those lectures you were talking about, the azania people would apparently have to be from somewhere in east africa and a four corners region the only one im aware of is in the southwestern united states and i also googled the other lecture about james clerk maxwell, but couldnt find either one. Try douglas adams' lecture " parrots the universe and everything" right here on you tube.
Let me say this. I have studied and researched things for well over a quarter of a century. This guy is phenomenal. He’s entertaining and one of the most effective lecturers I’ve yet come across.
@@earlysda He's literally the world's foremost expert on Cuneiform. He's not saying he believes the story, or anything like that, Dr Finkel is an atheist. He does know more than most if not all people about Cuneiform, so I'd drop the pride a bit and realize that you're listening to someone who's more of an expert than you are.
I went to an all girls school, a famous one in London, such a privilege, but the teachers were so wonderful I still remember them & their fantastic methods that made you sit up & take it all in - I'm 83 now, and wish every kid could have what they gave me ! I learned to love learning, and still do !
@@veronicaroach3667 because of my dads job ( professional footballer) we moved around England & I had a few different schools ( during the 60s and 70s) Teachers who bring the subject alive who capture the imagination are worth their weight in Gold. And are quite rare ..
I am absolutely amazed that I managed to just stumble upon this incredible lecturer! I'd been watching historical cooking, then a random video about Egyptology, then something from the British Museum with this wonderful, charming man. Such a great style and sense of humor! Plus, that hair and beard! He ticks all the boxes for a wizard, or gentlemen scientist, or Santa. Just makes my inner child gleeful.
That was well worth my hour. This was such an entertaining story. Irving Finkle is the Great Wizard of Britain and you can't tell me otherwise. I first saw his video with Tom Scott playing the Royal Game of Ur. Ever since, I've been fascinated with this man.
Does he have any writings on cuneiform dictionary grammar? Cuneiform characters can only be understood by himself, so can people who read his books not understand it? This shows that he is a fake, a fake person!
how popular is this guy in england? even though hes the worlds expert on cuneiform script i feel like most people dont know him. this man is an international treasure. he dedicated his entire life to helping the human race understand its origins more clearly. i sure hope hes got a protégé. the importance of people like him cannot be understated. this man dedicated his life to something he knew he may never make any real money in. im sure he does well now but he didnt know he would the top guy when he decided to study cuneiform. its weird because in america the culture is you study whats going to make you alot of money. the idea of studying cuneiform in college is laughable by most people in this country everyone will tell you that your wasting your money studying an ancient dead language. if your not going into med law or finance then your wasting your education lol. dr finkel is a real hero without people like him parts of history can be lost forever and thats an absolute tradegy. the biggest question to any human should be how did i get here?
I agree he should be known to more people than he is. Like many historical academics, he doesn't earn much Youd be surprised. He does it for the love for the passion , he could earn more if he left the British museum and went on tour earning money from his lectures .
In keeping to the spirit of Mr. Finkel.... I say we wait to give it to him.. at a later date ! Just tell him we have one for him.,. and not tell him when he gets it ~!
As an Iraqi, I appreciate it when historians and archaeologists mention Iraq by name, because in the west the name “Iraq” is only mentioned in relationship to wars, terrorism, dictatorship, and human rights violations. If mentioned in documentaries for its historical value then it is called Sumer, Akkad, Babylon, Assyria, Mesopotamia, or the Cradle of Civilization, which is a huge disservice to Iraq and Iraqis, since many people think these places are mythical or disputed like Atlantis. Historians don't do that with Egypt (e.g. Kemet), China (e.g. Zhongguo) or Greece (e.g. Hellas)--they call them by their modern names. Many events in Genesis happened in Iraq (e.g. Garden of Eden and the Tower of Babel), until Abraham “set out from Ur of the Chaldeans to go to Canaan” (Genesis 11:31). And when Abraham wanted his son Isaac to get married, he sent his servant to his relatives in Iraq to find a wife for Isaac. Later Biblical events also happened in Iraq (e.g. Book of Daniel). The Babylonian Talmud was written by Iraqi Jews in Iraq. And even the Lord Jesus Christ spoke Aramaic, the language of the ancient Iraqis and modern-day Chaldeans and Assyrians.
Sorry, but according to my knowledge, theccurrent Arab Iraq was carved out of Arabia by the British and does not have much in common with ancient Mesopotamia, Babylon etc., not the same languages, same religion, culture etc, except it is the same region. Not, to minimise the ancient Arab Islamic historical impact, but if the Mongol empire had persisted until today, they would be claiming ownership on Babylon, Mesopotamia, etc cultures.
Sadly with what is happening around the world that is the most talk about when mentioning Iraq, but when you look at photos or video of the cities and countryside it looks like a modern country with amazing architecture but modern cities with modern roads and buildings everywhere, it is sad how politics can depict places completely different to what they really are. When the people take back their country one day i would hope that visitors spread the word of its beauty and how it is nowhere near as described by its enemies.
BBC would only be interested if he put on a dress, converted to Islam, and changed his name to Venus Rainbow, and then complained about sexism, transphobia, and islamophobia.
I do hope you do. Keep an open mind, by all means study religions but don't believe them. Learn at least one other language and read,read read,it focuses the mind that TV won't do. I wish you great success, if you have this guy as your north star you are already on the right track.
I think the most astounding skill Irving happens to possess as an unparallelled historian and communicator is one I daresay most of his colleagues don't happen to share - supreme comedic sense and timing.
This is officially my favorite video on TH-cam. I'm now going to binge watch every Irving Finkle video I can find. I am at work listening to this while I wait on a server to deploy and trying to stifle laughter.
@Al Kotov I'm sure that the OP meant something more appropriate to the subject matter. This stuff is basically a Sumerian/Akkadian/Old Babylonian precursor to a Hebrew Torah narrative element. Not history per se but almost certainly a narrative influenced by history - likely the legacy of several Euphrates and/or Tigris flood events blended into one story with mythological justifications and explanations.
I had a similar experience with my A-lv maths tutor: a fascinating guy with many stories & anecdotes to tell, often humorous. Sadly I spent so much time listening to his stories that I failed abysmally in the exams :((
@generalframework The name of the story is "Atra-Hasis" or the "Epic of Atrahasis," though can be found in slightly differing form (a few name and date changes and prose alterations) within the "Epic of Gilgamesh." The oldest copies of parts of the Atra-Hasis flood story we have date to the mid/late 1600's BCE, but many other copies exist from then through the 1st millennium BCE. The Gilgamesh version's oldest form we have dates to the 7th century BCE, but the Epic of Gilgamesh itself is present in part from a tablet dated to the 18th century BCE. There are countless papers published on both in myriad journals and would be nearly effortless to find with a quick Google.
Irving Finkel is the greatest teacher! We would have been so lucky to have had him lecturing and teaching where I once studied! At least we have plenty of new video recordings of him speaking on TH-cam which I have been watching through, each and everyone is wonderful! Thank you, Mr Finkel.
I just imagine how 3000 years from now, archaeologists dig up the rubble of the British Museum, find these tablets with the map of Babylon, and then go to figure out which part of the nearby ancient riverbed... Thames or what it was once called... it could possibly refer to.
This fella is amazing! How can you be so direct and intellectual, yet deliver it with such humor has to keep the person entertained and enthralled? I don’t know, but obviously Dr. Finkel does. Love this guy
Funny reactions. Hes interesting to listen to, obviously very knowledgable, and keeps his audience engaged with his humor. I'd hardly call him hilarious, though.
@ordanburdan Personally, I can learn from almost anyone, but humor is still appreciated. It's weird that you think adults shouldn't have a sense of humor.
This guy is s legend, if school teachers were like him more kids would enjoy learning. He's like a stand-up lecturer he's got a way of educating you while making you laugh not realising how much of lesson you've just been privileged to be part of. Need to find more of his lectures/work known of his name through other great minds like his just never clicked on a video until now idk I've been missing out 😂
Only his information is not completely correct, he keeps referring to Atra-Hasis while the Epic of Gilgamesh is older and the measurements of the boat on that tablet was damaged and not readable at all. Noah's name was Utnapishtim though on that tablet. But a copy from that same period was found and it told the story about the flood and a man. The part that described the measurements and how to build it was complete. He never build the boat all by himself but with skilled workmen. Why Irving Finkel keeps saying that Enki told Atra-Hasis about the flood I don't know because Enki never mentioned the name Atra-Hasis. He told about the flood but did not used that name. Also, there's even an older tablet that was found then the Epic of Gilgamesh from the Nagas civilization but it was damaged severely. But enough was left to know that it was about a flood and a man.
The reality of energy and knowledge given by an humble man carries me to greater knowledge and very joyously at that, Irving. You are precious of course.
What an absolute treat! Boring weekend and finding this remarkable lecture on TH-cam saved the day. Manage to be both educational and entertaining leaving me with an hour well spent.
@@user-sc2jz9ng6k I have just watched that based on your recommendation. It's a great talk, but I think you really need to be mathematically minded to enjoy it. I'm actually a mathematician myself, but I enjoyed Irving Finkel's talk a lot more. Maybe if Euler lived today and gave a talk on a popular subject it would be on similar level.
Brilliant lecture - it is very rare to find someone who can be so knowledgeable and passionate about a subject and can communicate that love, with humour, in a way that people can understand.
My best friend was like this...he was such an intelligent man....he died of a rare children's cancer....he really brought the Bible to life for me..rip fozzi bear...see you in heaven one day
This is such a fun, nerdy watch. One of my favorite varieties of human is adorably funny, middlingly cantankerous, beardy old British scientists. He’s seriously hilarious in the nerdiest way. I had zero expectation of watching a full hour lecture on the Babylonian flood story, or the gonzo archaeology of building something from the description in an ancient cuneiform table. But 5 minutes in, I was hooked by his style, and the deeply fascinating info he’s presenting. With seriously minimal slides, he leads you through one of the best documentaries I’ve experienced in a while, especially since so much is theater of the mind. I think it would work well as a podcast, just occasionally glancing at his new slides, or appreciating his majestic, flowing eyebrows (and beard). And I’m totally looking up more lectures by Irving Finkel.
Nah, not nerdy. You don't have to have some special interest or knowledge to like and understand this lecture. Seems to me this nerd romanticism says more about how certain people want to present themselves as special than about their actual interests.
@@jeanfatale OP is calling Finkel nerdy, not the watchers. Talking about ancient Babylonian text about a prototype story for the Noah's ark story strikes me as nerdy. Being a curator and studying assyriology strikes me as nerdy
I didn't come looking for information on this subject. The video played automatically after my previous video ended. The speaker was so thoroughly entertaining that I watched the whole thing. Oh, how I wish all of my professors had been so engaging!
That was one of the most entertaining, yet informative lectures I have ever heard. Irving Finkel is a lecturing genius to my mind and I enjoyed this talk very much. I was a big fan of Assyrian and Babylonian history when I was in school so I had to listen to this lecture from start to finish.
From beginning to end he had my attention, this was fascinating and what an amazing speaker. Just great energy throughout the entire story he shares. 👍👍👍 a man whose passion for Noah's atk is captivating.
I was living in East Anglia when I had a Scottish girlfriend. She came from Aberdeen. Well, that only lasted a week because I kept asking her to repeat herself, and she later pointed out that one of her biggest pet peeves is people asking her to keep repeating herself because nobody in England understood what the hell she was saying!
If only everyone else had ancient keys to, with some very disciplined effort, render better understanding of one another, might we all get along any better?
I love this gentleman. He's extremely knowledgeable, educational and freaking hilarious. Great video. I had a great laugh and learned a lot of interesting history.
Intriguing history, powerful images, well developed story, and vast knowledge are presented here for my enjoyment. I will never get to meet Professor Emeritus Finkle in this life, but maybe the next. How delightful is this man, he kept my 79-year-old scholar brain rapt and enraptured for an hour. Thank you so much for being who you are.
there are very few people who are so obviously in love with their subject and can communicate that , Irving being one of Britain best !! i ahev learned more from this guy in two years then i did my whole time at school in history class
e with math I would suggest studying the golden ratio or FiDid you watch other lectres I am about to when I have time. I wonder i he has any DMT experiences or i he practices psychic viewing. He looks like an elder Russel Brand. I he is uncomfortable with math, I would suggest studying the golden ratio nor Fibonacci's sequence , it made math FB come alive for me . Now for some rock and roll... I am off try o my garden. I better make a memo to myself to give Irving Finkle a closer look.
I discovered him as of today, and I've watched three lectures already, subscribed, and have another three lectures in the queue. I'm searching for more.
@GCAT 1.618 I am just now seeing this comment and I love it! I bet he has tried DMT. All of us who are SEEKING do so. I know I have and will again! Math is difficult for me, but I feel I am called to understand sacred geometry. Therefore, I MUST OVERCOME!!! MUCH LOVE, DEAR ONE!
thank you so much for allowing the public to enjoy this knowledge for free. as a person of limited means that still loves to learn it makes my day. this speaker was great.
@therealjaxon People think it is blasphemy to desecrate the Bible. But actually, they were the writers and editors of the Flavians and some tenacious conspirators from the old testament.
I've heard it said that a keen wit is a sign of genius. This man is the embodiment of that. Thank you, Mr Finkel, and thank you to those who recorded and posted this video. My heart is gleeful for having seen this.
I saw this documentary years ago, so it was nice to see this and get the complete story around it. Doc. has a very smooth and funny delivery made this truly enjoyable to watch.
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Whether you have enjoyed this or not you might find my book The Ark Before Noah interesting...
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This is one of the most interesting lectures I've ever heard! It's incredible the puzzles that can be solved from such limited information. I also saw a video of how you deciphered the rules to the Royal Game of Ur. Thank you for uncovering our history!
thank you
I just happen to have my debit card handy and am willing to use it. I expect your humor to be a little more on the dry side for the book? No matter, you are obviously intelligent and your input on ancient history will be, no doubt, interesting. You sold me on the idea.
Smashing! Absolutely smashing! Well good chap I dare say that was undoubtedly the witty-est and most enjoyable speech! Bravo ! Very informative and great bursts of humor throughout. Needless to say, but I must, that was a jolly good show you! I will check out your book in support of what seems to be your life's work and passion. Thank you for this pleasurable experience. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Vos, Christian
I absolutely loved it. I watched it twice, once many months ago, and now here I am again, on a quest to gain my TH-cam PhD in ancient history. Thank you for helping me on my quest
Thank God for TH-cam. Can you imagine this lecture would only be available to a handful of people in that room! That would be a real shame. It's absolutely delightful, in content and delivery! ❤❤❤❤
@beamazed1162 yes, actually I know all that. I even have a book on Chinese inventions. Spare your breath
The audio quality is horrid. _`God`_ forbid they remaster the audio, out of the Neolithic age of analog technology & into the digital age, to at least lessen the echo, while also reducing the background noise, to something reasonable. The echo and the background noise, coupled with _`Her Majesty's`_ British accent, make this video completely unworthy of wasting my time trying to watch, and listen, to it.
Thumb's down!
@@MorpheusOne Everything must be carbon-14 tested and corroborated by multiple evidences. China’s history has been corroborated by multiple evidences
@@MorpheusOne-- ...listening to a Good British Storyteller is simply a matter of de-tuning your Modern Ear to let the language flow around- and over you -- as if you are watching Shakespeare performed in its original accent...
You've expended at least TWICE as much effort & energy in compiling your pedantic Complaints about this presentation than it would have taken you to just run the video 2 times -- the first to watch the images as you let the audio play in the 'background', and the second to enjoy HEARING the tale which Professor/Doctor Finkle is telling...
@neclark: Have you considered the more likely possibility that you have really, REALLY, really low standards¿?
I could listen to This Gentleman all day long.
Awesome .
As an Iraqi, I am glad to see my country being mentioned for once for its historical value.
U islam idiot. Destroying this artefak
Just wait until the United nations gets moved out of New York to a small ancient town about 50miles south of Baghdad.
The ratios are also present in the consruction of a pllace called stone henge, and in the construction of churches and mosque.. In Christian mythology they come from the tree of knowledge and there is a sequence of cosines that go with it the mythology described as a serpent. The academic canon ask that people are not told this. Barthes wrote something about the mythology in the 1950's and added "I can see the thunder clouds on the horizon as I writre.. Cant control the internet.
@001FJ your country is the cradle of civilisation. be proud of your history and hope that you will be able to be proud of your country one day again
There is a vortex in Iraq, thus the recent invasion.
Irving Finkel is totally a Wizard from Unseen University in Discworld. Right down to the muttered jokes. Wonderful and educational. Much thanks.
Perhaps Discworld is actually a coracle on four elephants on a sea turtle.
absolutely! I hadnt thought of that! I adore Irving Finkel!
What an apt comparison. Somewhat scatter-brained whilst muttering arcane knowledge to himself and explaining in disjointed phrases. The world needs experts like these :)
100%, and while he's at it he really does personify a wonderful character of Englishness which does, just a smidgen, leave one thinking: "Perhaps, in the bemusingly witty intelligence of our finest eccentrics we did have a valid claim for world domination after all."
I know, a truly terrible thing to say, but there it is 😉
[PS. I think Erwin Saunders, professor of pixie studies who has a wonderful youtube channel here must have largely been inspired by Irvin Finkel - the names have a rather similar ring to them too.]
He’s off his Dried frog pills. (these are pills made chiefly from frogs, specifically the extremely poisonous ones that live in the vivarium at Unseen University)
This is the kind of man who if given a billion dollars, wouldn’t retire. “I finally have enough money to research everything I want to” he’d spend every last penny on discovery and spreading that knowledge
did you write this all by yourself !?
Pretty much lol
@MikkelGrumBovin no need to be so snarky😂
He’s the kind of guy billionaires respect and fund already.
He must have a really good diet to have that sort of energy.
First thing I must say, having listened to many many speakers on a variety of subjects, is...... What a wonderful speaker! A gem! A delight! A rarity! Most people who speak, no matter what the subject is.... shouldn't. This was a real treat! Thank you for not only being educational and sharing your knowledge and wisdom, but for making it interesting and entertaining.
Finkel is the gold standard for combining superlative scholarship and sheer entertainment.
What a phenomenal and glorious example of British humour and scholarship. Thank you.
I should have greatly enjoyed being one of the Americans he allegedly chased after to explain that the bit about the heads of departments arriving at the museum on elephants was not true. The comedic possibilities of understanding that it was a joke in the first place and pretending to believe it despite all claims to the contrary are pure gold.
That is the coolest thing I’ve ever heard: I picked up the cuneiform tablet and proceeded to read it.
He is in my team, for quiz night 😁
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Excellent tone, volume, pace, body gestures, confidence, humility , humor, word choice, and directions for looking at the visuals. The clear historical orientation, design principles, lecture delivery, and encouragement to keep learning after the lecture. Thanks very much, Dr. Finkel. GB
This is the proper way for a lecturer to engage an audience.... brilliantly done ....
I can't even put into words how captivated I was until the end. I drank in every detail. Of course, a curator. Perfect! Your mind never stops expanding with ideas and the ages
Irving Finkel is an international treasure. His particular gift to us is to make the ancients just as human as we are and thus just as relatable as our next-door neighbors. It has the dual effect of humbling the ancients and elevating us. He should live until 120 and never stop writing, teaching, researching and discovering.
As a descendant of Noah, he should live until 950!
Does he have any writings on cuneiform dictionary grammar? Cuneiform characters can only be understood by himself, so can people who read his books not understand it? This shows that he is a fake, a fake person!
@@beamazed1162what? Who told you he's the only person who can read cuneiform?
@@suzbone drop me a link to a grammar book that translates cuneiform grammar into English, and I will also translate the content on the mud board.
@@beamazed1162 your online on utube asking questions about things you can find the answers for if you Google your questions.
A quick answer, yes , men have been studying and translating cuneiform for around 150 years..
Go look at some examples of cuneiform translated into English .
That was absolutely the *shortest* 58 minute video that I have ever watched.
*THANK YOU VERY MUCH* !!!
I have no idea how I found this lecture, but without a doubt, this is the best lecture I've ever heard in my life!!! I was sitting on the edge of my seat the entire time, though there was a time or two when I thought I just might fall out of my seat because I was laughing so hard--- laughing because of Irving Finkel's sense of humor and his comedic delivery. And I'm STILL chuckling over those goats! LOL
Everything must be carbon-14 tested and corroborated by multiple evidences. China’s history has been corroborated by multiple evidences
“There’s usually a giraffe looking out of the window “!😀
Yes.. awesome. Really brilliant. I have though encountered a couple of other equally brilliant lectures.... one by Jim Mathews proving that James Clerk Maxwell is the greatest scientist ever, and the other, so long ago I forget the lecturers name but will never forget the amazing history of the Azania people of the four corners region.
@@jackieking1522 i looked for about 10 mins trying to find those lectures you were talking about, the azania people would apparently have to be from somewhere in east africa and a four corners region the only one im aware of is in the southwestern united states and i also googled the other lecture about james clerk maxwell, but couldnt find either one. Try douglas adams' lecture " parrots the universe and everything" right here on you tube.
Challenge it for yourself without his "dates" as they are flawed. See what you come up with. Don't be deceived.
Let me say this. I have studied and researched things for well over a quarter of a century. This guy is phenomenal. He’s entertaining and one of the most effective lecturers I’ve yet come across.
The speaker in the video hasn't a clue what he is talking about.
@@earlysda Does he not? How's that? Did he not set the rules for the Royal Game of Ur straight? Did he not literally publish the paper on this matter?
@@Aurora-oe2qp Aurora, your satire is quite funny. Thank you.
@@earlysda He's literally the world's foremost expert on Cuneiform. He's not saying he believes the story, or anything like that, Dr Finkel is an atheist. He does know more than most if not all people about Cuneiform, so I'd drop the pride a bit and realize that you're listening to someone who's more of an expert than you are.
@@aryehlevine8677 Aryeh, God calls Atheists "fools".
Irving Finkle is a awesome. As a kid in my rough neighborhood highschool, I had a teacher who reminds me of him, I will never forget his lessons.
I went to an all girls school, a famous one in London, such a privilege, but the teachers were so wonderful I still remember them & their fantastic methods that made you sit up & take it all in - I'm 83 now, and wish every kid could have what they gave me ! I learned to love learning, and still do !
You've got the remind part backwards.
@@veronicaroach3667 because of my dads job ( professional footballer) we moved around England & I had a few different schools ( during the 60s and 70s)
Teachers who bring the subject alive who capture the imagination are worth their weight in Gold.
And are quite rare ..
That's amazing to have gleaned so much from your teachers and created a life of learning absolutely beautiful t@@veronicaroach3667
His humour is genius because he is funny enough that you are always listening for another good punchline, and thus you are ALWAYS LISTENING
My college archeology prof had exactly the same methodology. Never a dull lecture.
I am absolutely amazed that I managed to just stumble upon this incredible lecturer! I'd been watching historical cooking, then a random video about Egyptology, then something from the British Museum with this wonderful, charming man. Such a great style and sense of humor! Plus, that hair and beard! He ticks all the boxes for a wizard, or gentlemen scientist, or Santa. Just makes my inner child gleeful.
That was well worth my hour. This was such an entertaining story. Irving Finkle is the Great Wizard of Britain and you can't tell me otherwise. I first saw his video with Tom Scott playing the Royal Game of Ur. Ever since, I've been fascinated with this man.
I didn't even realise it's been an hour.
I love a long tale
'In the editing process, they miss out certain words. Like NOT.'
Comedy gold. I am turning into a total Irving Finkel fanboy.
Me too.
Lol it happens. I would also like to share with you all a very important video imo
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His quick American accent was quite on point.
@@michaeldougherty6036 as an American I can confirm this lol
Does he have any writings on cuneiform dictionary grammar? Cuneiform characters can only be understood by himself, so can people who read his books not understand it? This shows that he is a fake, a fake person!
Irvin Finkel is always a pleasure to listen to. His vast knowledge is only second to his superb delivery
I was actually sad when it ended, I could listen to this gentleman all day long!
how popular is this guy in england? even though hes the worlds expert on cuneiform script i feel like most people dont know him. this man is an international treasure. he dedicated his entire life to helping the human race understand its origins more clearly. i sure hope hes got a protégé. the importance of people like him cannot be understated. this man dedicated his life to something he knew he may never make any real money in. im sure he does well now but he didnt know he would the top guy when he decided to study cuneiform. its weird because in america the culture is you study whats going to make you alot of money. the idea of studying cuneiform in college is laughable by most people in this country everyone will tell you that your wasting your money studying an ancient dead language. if your not going into med law or finance then your wasting your education lol. dr finkel is a real hero without people like him parts of history can be lost forever and thats an absolute tradegy. the biggest question to any human should be how did i get here?
I agree he should be known to more people than he is.
Like many historical academics, he doesn't earn much
Youd be surprised.
He does it for the love for the passion , he could earn more if he left the British museum and went on tour earning money from his lectures .
I declare Irving Finkel an International Treasure...someone get this man a gold chain immediately!
In keeping to the spirit of Mr. Finkel.... I say we wait to give it to him.. at a later date ! Just tell him we have one for him.,. and not tell him when he gets it ~!
Be on the lookout for Nicholas Cage
No, get him an elephant to come to work on!
Why? What would that prove?
As an Iraqi, I appreciate it when historians and archaeologists mention Iraq by name, because in the west the name “Iraq” is only mentioned in relationship to wars, terrorism, dictatorship, and human rights violations.
If mentioned in documentaries for its historical value then it is called Sumer, Akkad, Babylon, Assyria, Mesopotamia, or the Cradle of Civilization, which is a huge disservice to Iraq and Iraqis, since many people think these places are mythical or disputed like Atlantis.
Historians don't do that with Egypt (e.g. Kemet), China (e.g. Zhongguo) or Greece (e.g. Hellas)--they call them by their modern names.
Many events in Genesis happened in Iraq (e.g. Garden of Eden and the Tower of Babel), until Abraham “set out from Ur of the Chaldeans to go to Canaan” (Genesis 11:31). And when Abraham wanted his son Isaac to get married, he sent his servant to his relatives in Iraq to find a wife for Isaac. Later Biblical events also happened in Iraq (e.g. Book of Daniel). The Babylonian Talmud was written by Iraqi Jews in Iraq. And even the Lord Jesus Christ spoke Aramaic, the language of the ancient Iraqis and modern-day Chaldeans and Assyrians.
The TaImud is one of the main sources of the unprecedented EVlL we see and experience first hand in current times.
Sorry, but according to my knowledge, theccurrent Arab Iraq was carved out of Arabia by the British and does not have much in common with ancient Mesopotamia, Babylon etc., not the same languages, same religion, culture etc, except it is the same region. Not, to minimise the ancient Arab Islamic historical impact, but if the Mongol empire had persisted until today, they would be claiming ownership on Babylon, Mesopotamia, etc cultures.
@@kukuruku4697 Islam is irrelevant it didn't appear till 640 AD
Sadly with what is happening around the world that is the most talk about when mentioning Iraq, but when you look at photos or video of the cities and countryside it looks like a modern country with amazing architecture but modern cities with modern roads and buildings everywhere, it is sad how politics can depict places completely different to what they really are. When the people take back their country one day i would hope that visitors spread the word of its beauty and how it is nowhere near as described by its enemies.
@albionjq who said otherwise, and what is the connection to what I said?
Irving Finkel appears to be a national treasure. Y'all should give him a BBC series or some such.
BBC would only be interested if he put on a dress, converted to Islam, and changed his name to Venus Rainbow, and then complained about sexism, transphobia, and islamophobia.
He was talking about pornhub
Agree
@@slappy8941 and racism and white males...don't forget about racism and WHITE MALES!!!!
I liked the guy who went full Fox News to make you feel at home.
I'm in my fifties but when I grow up I'd like to be able to give talks like Dr. Finkel.
Lol👍
Hows the beard coming along?
I do hope you do.
Keep an open mind, by all means study religions but don't believe them.
Learn at least one other language and read,read read,it focuses the mind that TV won't do.
I wish you great success, if you have this guy as your north star you are already on the right track.
@@julianwaugh968 Study religion but dont believe them? I can see close mindedness here.
It’s never too late 😊👍🇦🇺
I think the most astounding skill Irving happens to possess as an unparallelled historian and communicator is one I daresay most of his colleagues don't happen to share - supreme comedic sense and timing.
A very admirable professor, always interesting & a joy to hear his talks.
This is officially my favorite video on TH-cam. I'm now going to binge watch every Irving Finkle video I can find. I am at work listening to this while I wait on a server to deploy and trying to stifle laughter.
Dr. Irving is one of the most engaging speakers I've seen. Always love his lectures
What a treat to have this randomly selected for me by the All Powerful Algorithm.
All hail
randomly?
What a precious soul is Irving Finkel.What substance he gives.
I love this man's humor. This is one part comedy & three parts history. I'd love to take one of his courses. I bet he makes it so fun.
He's not a teacher. So you can't take a course of his.
@Al Kotov I'm sure that the OP meant something more appropriate to the subject matter.
This stuff is basically a Sumerian/Akkadian/Old Babylonian precursor to a Hebrew Torah narrative element.
Not history per se but almost certainly a narrative influenced by history - likely the legacy of several Euphrates and/or Tigris flood events blended into one story with mythological justifications and explanations.
@generalframework You can lead a fool to knowledge, but you can't make him think.
I had a similar experience with my A-lv maths tutor: a fascinating guy with many stories & anecdotes to tell, often humorous. Sadly I spent so much time listening to his stories that I failed abysmally in the exams :((
@generalframework The name of the story is "Atra-Hasis" or the "Epic of Atrahasis," though can be found in slightly differing form (a few name and date changes and prose alterations) within the "Epic of Gilgamesh."
The oldest copies of parts of the Atra-Hasis flood story we have date to the mid/late 1600's BCE, but many other copies exist from then through the 1st millennium BCE. The Gilgamesh version's oldest form we have dates to the 7th century BCE, but the Epic of Gilgamesh itself is present in part from a tablet dated to the 18th century BCE.
There are countless papers published on both in myriad journals and would be nearly effortless to find with a quick Google.
I love his wittiness! He’s sharp and insightful!
Irving Finkel is the greatest teacher! We would have been so lucky to have had him lecturing and teaching where I once studied! At least we have plenty of new video recordings of him speaking on TH-cam which I have been watching through, each and everyone is wonderful! Thank you, Mr Finkel.
Ilove the man’s Humour! Irving Finkel you are a great Legend! I can listen to your lectures All Day ! Thank you 🙏 from 🇨🇦
I just imagine how 3000 years from now, archaeologists dig up the rubble of the British Museum, find these tablets with the map of Babylon, and then go to figure out which part of the nearby ancient riverbed... Thames or what it was once called... it could possibly refer to.
@@ezicarus8216 thats hilarious if true
Ah, The Book of Dave hypothesis...
Actually, I think he is Noah, still alive, trying to put us off the track so we don't discover his secret.
Naw, we already concluded that he is a wizard, likely merlin.
@@applemauzel So the Merlin is the descendant of Noah?
...Come to think of it, it does make sense that whoever he is he'd be a descendant of Noah.
MrLodinn isn’t everyone?
@@lewisham LOL
Rather Albus Dumbledore.
This gentleman is a true legend... love hear him talking..
Tedious.
James Rendi vibes.
Same
The best lecture I've ever watched. History with humour. What a genius of a man
This fella is amazing! How can you be so direct and intellectual, yet deliver it with such humor has to keep the person entertained and enthralled? I don’t know, but obviously Dr. Finkel does. Love this guy
This guy could talk about paint drying and I’d listen. He’s hilarious and makes learning a lot more fun.
Funny reactions. Hes interesting to listen to, obviously very knowledgable, and keeps his audience engaged with his humor. I'd hardly call him hilarious, though.
it is cute that you need learning to be fun in order for yo to learn. reminds me of toddlers.
"Talk about paint drying and I'd listen"..... No kidding, it'd be great.
@ordanburdan
Personally, I can learn from almost anyone, but humor is still appreciated. It's weird that you think adults shouldn't have a sense of humor.
@@ordanburdan9397 what a nasty comment, you're not automatically mature if you don't like humor. Let people enjoy learning however they want.
This lecture is so informative and entertaining at the same time, no wonder the audience was responding with enthusiasm
This guy is s legend, if school teachers were like him more kids would enjoy learning. He's like a stand-up lecturer he's got a way of educating you while making you laugh not realising how much of lesson you've just been privileged to be part of. Need to find more of his lectures/work known of his name through other great minds like his just never clicked on a video until now idk I've been missing out 😂
Wishful thinking….I can tell you have never taught in urban classrooms.😢
Just found 2 years after publish. Good lecture and Irving is great at throwing in some comedy. Very informative and entertaining.
Only his information is not completely correct, he keeps referring to Atra-Hasis while the Epic of Gilgamesh is older and the measurements of the boat on that tablet was damaged and not readable at all. Noah's name was Utnapishtim though on that tablet. But a copy from that same period was found and it told the story about the flood and a man. The part that described the measurements and how to build it was complete. He never build the boat all by himself but with skilled workmen. Why Irving Finkel keeps saying that Enki told Atra-Hasis about the flood I don't know because Enki never mentioned the name Atra-Hasis. He told about the flood but did not used that name. Also, there's even an older tablet that was found then the Epic of Gilgamesh from the Nagas civilization but it was damaged severely. But enough was left to know that it was about a flood and a man.
The reality of energy and knowledge given by an humble man carries me to greater knowledge and very joyously at that, Irving. You are precious of course.
What an absolute treat! Boring weekend and finding this remarkable lecture on TH-cam saved the day. Manage to be both educational and entertaining leaving me with an hour well spent.
Thank you for posting this lecture by Irving Finkel. He is wonderful and the lecture is even better the second time round.
hands down best lecture ive watched on youtube. i would work for dr. finkel for free just to absorb his knowledge and coolness.
Another gem is 'A Tribute to Euler' by William Dunham. Exciting lectures are certainly few and far between.
And I shall sweep the area you work in and absorb the scraps of knowledge
I should have read the comments before nearly plagiarising yours, 2 years later!
You should see the actual documentary he's lecturing about. It's brilliant.
@@user-sc2jz9ng6k I have just watched that based on your recommendation. It's a great talk, but I think you really need to be mathematically minded to enjoy it. I'm actually a mathematician myself, but I enjoyed Irving Finkel's talk a lot more. Maybe if Euler lived today and gave a talk on a popular subject it would be on similar level.
This was fun to watch, I loved his sense of humor. I wish every history class/lecture was this engaging!
This gentleman is an excellent orator and explains things in a way that's interesting and intriguing! Thank you!
Don't forget funny!!!!
Which of Noah's sons was Asian? Which of Noah's sons was Black? Hmmm - there's is a story of the Flood in each culture though . . .
Brilliant lecture - it is very rare to find someone who can be so knowledgeable and passionate about a subject and can communicate that love, with humour, in a way that people can understand.
I love these lectures. Dr Finkle is a great aurator. A teacher of the highest degree. Brilliantly informative , and entertaining.
My best friend was like this...he was such an intelligent man....he died of a rare children's cancer....he really brought the Bible to life for me..rip fozzi bear...see you in heaven one day
😊👍🇦🇺
This is such a fun, nerdy watch. One of my favorite varieties of human is adorably funny, middlingly cantankerous, beardy old British scientists. He’s seriously hilarious in the nerdiest way.
I had zero expectation of watching a full hour lecture on the Babylonian flood story, or the gonzo archaeology of building something from the description in an ancient cuneiform table. But 5 minutes in, I was hooked by his style, and the deeply fascinating info he’s presenting. With seriously minimal slides, he leads you through one of the best documentaries I’ve experienced in a while, especially since so much is theater of the mind.
I think it would work well as a podcast, just occasionally glancing at his new slides, or appreciating his majestic, flowing eyebrows (and beard). And I’m totally looking up more lectures by Irving Finkel.
Nah, not nerdy. You don't have to have some special interest or knowledge to like and understand this lecture. Seems to me this nerd romanticism says more about how certain people want to present themselves as special than about their actual interests.
@@jeanfatale OP is calling Finkel nerdy, not the watchers. Talking about ancient Babylonian text about a prototype story for the Noah's ark story strikes me as nerdy. Being a curator and studying assyriology strikes me as nerdy
What an absolutely brilliant speaker Dr. Finkel is! Loved listening to his lecture.
What a marvelous hilarious story teller this man is!!! I absolutely loved this lecture!!!
Cheers
He’s so wonderful to listen to. What a great storyteller.
I think Mr. Finkel missed his calling as a comedian. He's incredibly funny and entertaining and I can't get enough of him.
Stable career as a professor, and comedy to liven it up. Sounds like a winning combination to me!
brilliant lecture, loved every moment of it. Would love to have a loooong talk with this man.
Wonderful I do hope Irving has a family because his line in dad jokes really is deserving of the correct audience.
What a fantastic lecture. I only meant to watch the first few minutes and suddenly it was ending- and that too soon!
when having fun
I didn't come looking for information on this subject. The video played automatically after my previous video ended. The speaker was so thoroughly entertaining that I watched the whole thing. Oh, how I wish all of my professors had been so engaging!
I am so glad I got to hear this man talk it has been a blessing thank you sir God bless and much love from West Virginia 🇺🇸
I wish all my lecturers were able to inspire and teach in the same fashion as that. Amazing, articulate, artistic and amusing all at the same time.
You are possibly the most interesting man I've ever unintentionally listened to. Hope you are still reading comments from this.
He has such a great way of talking. Such a pleasure to listen too
It's always a joy to listen to Dr. Finkle. ❤😊
What a fascinating and wonderfully delivered lecture. Thank you for putting on here for all to see.
I love where I end up when I go down my TH-cam's "suggested" rabbit hole. Lol what an adventure! Great storytelling from a great man. Bravo!
Wow, what a wonderful presentation.
Articulate, knowledgeable, great dry humor and, above all, very enthralling.
Irving Finkel is wonderful.
Thank you for sharing your talk with Dr. Finkel with us.
Absolutely fascinating, very informative - and I just love Irving Finkel's sense of humour!
That was one of the most entertaining, yet informative lectures I have ever heard. Irving Finkel is a lecturing genius to my mind and I enjoyed this talk very much. I was a big fan of Assyrian and Babylonian history when I was in school so I had to listen to this lecture from start to finish.
Lucky git!
From beginning to end he had my attention, this was fascinating and what an amazing speaker. Just great energy throughout the entire story he shares. 👍👍👍 a man whose passion for Noah's atk is captivating.
It's not Noah's ark
@@michealfreeman9714 it’s what the story was based on you pedant
Babylonian ark. *Babylonian.* Sumerian or Akkadian ark would also be acceptable.
Thankyou for posting Dr Finkle, you are amazing
Using an ancient Babylonian text to try and understand a Scotsman - we've all been there!
Thanks for the laugh buddy!
...lol...carry on...my good fellow lol
I was living in East Anglia when I had a Scottish girlfriend. She came from Aberdeen.
Well, that only lasted a week because I kept asking her to repeat herself, and she later pointed out that one of her biggest pet peeves is people asking her to keep repeating herself because nobody in England understood what the hell she was saying!
If only everyone else had ancient keys to, with some very disciplined effort, render better understanding of one another, might we all get along any better?
Lol
An absolutely fascinating talk ... and I love you sense of humor! Thank you for entertaining and educating!
I love this gentleman. He's extremely knowledgeable, educational and freaking hilarious.
Great video. I had a great laugh and learned a lot of interesting history.
AMEN!
He is the kind of which i wish my teachers would have been.
Intriguing history, powerful images, well developed story, and vast knowledge are presented here for my enjoyment. I will never get to meet Professor Emeritus Finkle in this life, but maybe the next. How delightful is this man, he kept my 79-year-old scholar brain rapt and enraptured for an hour. Thank you so much for being who you are.
What a wonderful lecture. I've just watched it for a second time, after several years, with rapt attention.
there are very few people who are so obviously in love with their subject and can communicate that , Irving being one of Britain best !! i ahev learned more from this guy in two years then i did my whole time at school in history class
Fascinating. I've watched this several times already. Brilliant research by a brilliant historian and linguist
I always love listening to Dr. Finkel. Thank you for the opportunity to subscribe.
So, I love this man and I have to watch every lecture he has ever given, now.
e with math I would suggest studying the golden ratio or FiDid you watch other lectres I am about to when I have time. I wonder i he has any DMT experiences or i he practices psychic viewing. He looks like an elder Russel Brand. I he is uncomfortable with math, I would suggest studying the golden ratio nor Fibonacci's sequence , it made math FB come alive for me . Now for some rock and roll... I am off try o my garden. I better make a memo to myself to give Irving Finkle a closer look.
I discovered him as of today, and I've watched three lectures already, subscribed, and have another three lectures in the queue. I'm searching for more.
@GCAT 1.618 I am just now seeing this comment and I love it! I bet he has tried DMT. All of us who are SEEKING do so. I know I have and will again! Math is difficult for me, but I feel I am called to understand sacred geometry. Therefore, I MUST OVERCOME!!! MUCH LOVE, DEAR ONE!
Irving Finkel is a national treasure, its a good thing he works in the museum :)
thank you so much for allowing the public to enjoy this knowledge for free. as a person of limited means that still loves to learn it makes my day. this speaker was great.
I loved listening and watching Mr Finkel speak! More of his lectures please!
2k dislikes, all from the Louvre.
More likely people who think the Noah flood story is literally true and don't like hearing otherwise.
Historical truth.. some people struggle with that ;)
@@Fete_Fatale hahaha
@therealjaxon People think it is blasphemy to desecrate the Bible. But actually, they were the writers and editors of the Flavians and some tenacious conspirators from the old testament.
Ibdude• I wouldn't put past them🙂
I've heard it said that a keen wit is a sign of genius. This man is the embodiment of that.
Thank you, Mr Finkel, and thank you to those who recorded and posted this video.
My heart is gleeful for having seen this.
Wow, how can I never have stumbled across this guy before‽ Really interesting talk!
I saw this documentary years ago, so it was nice to see this and get the complete story around it. Doc. has a very smooth and funny delivery made this truly enjoyable to watch.
What a charming Gent. Brilliant presentation. One of the best videos on the Tube!
Totally agree.
Mr. Finkel is an amazing unique story teller. Enjoyed this tremendously! Thanks!
What a pleasure to hear and learn from this wonderful man !
What a LEGEND. Wonderful new information, from an eloquent and interesting scholar. What a treat! Loved it ALL!💕💕💕
This man is a treasure, how privileged we are to have been able to see and hear him speak.