My initial rotation is "Pyro, Fireball, living bomb, flame orb, combustion. if you're gear is good enough to be worried about the dps then either your pyro or fireball should be critting and an "opportune" moment has presented itself literally as SOON as the fight starts. and youre not watching a silly addon hoping for three green #s. I will say i'm glad you are not popping mirror prior to your first cast, and having them stand there doing nothing :) lol
You can scorch weave if you are having mana issues but since 4.0.6 came out fire mages Fire ball now costs 9% instead of 15% mana.. scorch weave is 3 scorches to 2 fb's
eh ... I was getting at the fact that i thought the images get a snapshot of your stats as you summon them ... so it would be better to pop stuff before you bring out the images so they are stronger ... because i thought i heard you say to use MO then pop whatever else you have ... i was thinking that everything should be up before you get the images out unless i am just totally missing something
y. i thought this too. I think it's better to use Combustion with 2 dots each cd (1.17 or smth) than wait 2 minutes for "the best situation" which *can* give kinda 6k damage (not dps!) more. Especially when u can't fully control those dots (like on warlock for instance) because they actually proc. Thus this addon is not bad, and i say rather helpful to *understand* how fire mage works, but it won't do everything for you :)
I've been wondering about moving to cancel in order to refresh Living Bomb or to use the free Pyroblast proc. Based on your movements you actually stop casting in order to prioritize those two events? I'm guessing you're going to also move to stop casting to use flame orb also.
whats that addon u have where that little box has all the numbers and it tells u when they're all green? cuz thats very handy to have from the looks of it if ur a fire mage
the stat priority has been mathematically calculated and tested in practice to the enth degree, so it's not a passing opinion that haste is better than crit, it's a proven fact.....good vid other than that
So on a single target, do you keep refreshing living bomb not letting it fall off or do you let it fall off then re-apply it? Cuz Im hearing different things about it.
I'm not seeing that at all ... and just some food for thought, using scorch for a main filler nuke makes you rely more heavily on pyroblast! crits for a big ignite for combustion.
This "combustion helper" is killing mage DPS across the board from what ive seen. In this video you start your dps rotation at 1:45 and don't use your combustion until more than a minute later... Especially with the mage 4 set bonus this is a huge dps loss and waiting for the "opportune" moment to use combustion is not worth it, as you can see even with the addon, you're opporune momment still only had it doing 6k which is low.
Scorch is never a filler. You, are incorrect, Ignite is the reason you use fireball, your "scorch" crits are little baby #s compared to a fireball crit's Ignite dmg. and if you're ignite is garbage then you're combustion will be garbage. And if you're Ignite, Combustion and scorch's are all itty bitty baby dmg then you're overall dps... will be garbage. lol sorry mate, scorch is used for movement or to provoke a Pyro! if you really need one. check your #'s :)
Well, you doing many things wrong m8.. i am playing fire mage my self and... your doing alot of things wrong /w me in Game for a real rotation / Dollane the Maelstrom. Eu server.
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still a very good video in 2024 rotation wise for min/maxing, ty!
Thanks for the advice :), at low levels some of the spells in the fire mage tree don't make nearly as much sense without seeing the actual rotation.
Buy the glyph in an Auctionhouse for 'Mirror Image' and add it into your glyph setup for the fire talents.
My initial rotation is "Pyro, Fireball, living bomb, flame orb, combustion. if you're gear is good enough to be worried about the dps then either your pyro or fireball should be critting and an "opportune" moment has presented itself literally as SOON as the fight starts. and youre not watching a silly addon hoping for three green #s. I will say i'm glad you are not popping mirror prior to your first cast, and having them stand there doing nothing :) lol
Agree, Scorch's ignite procs simply do not do enough dmg, especially if you're looking for a decent combustion.
its funny how you do the best fire mage guides and you have 3 videos :D
You can scorch weave if you are having mana issues but since 4.0.6 came out fire mages Fire ball now costs 9% instead of 15% mana.. scorch weave is 3 scorches to 2 fb's
eh ...
I was getting at the fact that i thought the images get a snapshot of your stats as you summon them ... so it would be better to pop stuff before you bring out the images so they are stronger ... because i thought i heard you say to use MO then pop whatever else you have ... i was thinking that everything should be up before you get the images out unless i am just totally missing something
y. i thought this too. I think it's better to use Combustion with 2 dots each cd (1.17 or smth) than wait 2 minutes for "the best situation" which *can* give kinda 6k damage (not dps!) more. Especially when u can't fully control those dots (like on warlock for instance) because they actually proc. Thus this addon is not bad, and i say rather helpful to *understand* how fire mage works, but it won't do everything for you :)
impact is the way to spread the dot, but if you are having issues proc'ing hot streaks.. using blast on CD isnt bad
should you pop trink,etc before you cast MO i thought the images get a picture of your stats as you cast it
Start with Pyroblast, not scorch - it adds the debuff as well..
really nice video pretty much covered fire spec completely XD
when i practice on dummy i do everything and when it impact comes the recount and dots are reset . anyone know why ?
I've been wondering about moving to cancel in order to refresh Living Bomb or to use the free Pyroblast proc. Based on your movements you actually stop casting in order to prioritize those two events? I'm guessing you're going to also move to stop casting to use flame orb also.
nice videos.. very helpful keep it up
whats that addon u have where that little box has all the numbers and it tells u when they're all green? cuz thats very handy to have from the looks of it if ur a fire mage
Very informative, thank you very much!
The lightning capacitor off reg Ragnaros in FL
the stat priority has been mathematically calculated and tested in practice to the enth degree, so it's not a passing opinion that haste is better than crit, it's a proven fact.....good vid other than that
Link for the weakaura/addon please
@silowhore crit is better than haste for my mage, once I'm at 15% haste (plotted using simulationcraft). What's your source
Hey Ocarian at 3 min and 25 sec what is that, that falls from the middle screen like a cinema style, what addon is that?
So on a single target, do you keep refreshing living bomb not letting it fall off or do you let it fall off then re-apply it? Cuz Im hearing different things about it.
do you spam fire blast during burst ?
my clones shoot frostbolts how do i change it to fireball?
i liked this. Thanks mate
Very helpful thankyou very much
I'm not seeing that at all ... and just some food for thought, using scorch for a main filler nuke makes you rely more heavily on pyroblast! crits for a big ignite for combustion.
@ocarian hey can you message me all the addons you are using ive recently started playing WoW just hit 85 on ma mage. and i really like your setup
Doesn't it only spread if it's procs?
WHATS THE ACTIONBAR ADDON?
nice guide, tyvm
ok im a 55+- fire mage any pvp rotation tips? esp against tanks :D : )
what is the bule stuff you shoot out?
What's hero?
let living bomb fall off.. the AoE explosion that happens is key to living bomb on multi targets
Thanks man doing 40k dmg in fire with your guide no buffs just like you fighting a dummy in ironforge eheh :D
I have tried both and scorch gives me about 1K dps more.
@silowhore hmmm it appears that statement may be erroneous...im calling myself out on it :(
very useful vid
nope scorch is less dps. it should be used while moving or when knocked back.
This "combustion helper" is killing mage DPS across the board from what ive seen. In this video you start your dps rotation at 1:45 and don't use your combustion until more than a minute later... Especially with the mage 4 set bonus this is a huge dps loss and waiting for the "opportune" moment to use combustion is not worth it, as you can see even with the addon, you're opporune momment still only had it doing 6k which is low.
Thanks for the effort but I personally did not find it helpful at all. You're supposed to use scorch as a filler, not fireball.
GAWD why can't I find a good fire rotation in mop video... Fuck it
Scorch is never a filler. You, are incorrect, Ignite is the reason you use fireball, your "scorch" crits are little baby #s compared to a fireball crit's Ignite dmg. and if you're ignite is garbage then you're combustion will be garbage. And if you're Ignite, Combustion and scorch's are all itty bitty baby dmg then you're overall dps... will be garbage. lol sorry mate, scorch is used for movement or to provoke a Pyro! if you really need one. check your #'s :)
Not really useful for pvp
Well, you doing many things wrong m8.. i am playing fire mage my self and... your doing alot of things wrong /w me in Game for a real rotation / Dollane the Maelstrom. Eu server.