The Next Major GameCube Esport? - Rise of Sonic Riders
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 มิ.ย. 2024
- When the topic of GameCube titles that have withstood the test of time and establish themselves as an esport, Super Smash Bros Melee is what typically comes to mind. However, there exists another game, albeit lesser-known, that shares a similar tale, Sonic Riders.
Sonic Riders is a 2006 racing game by Sega that has remained in relative obscurity, but over the years, this title has been able to overcome the odds and with the support of a passionate grassroots community lay down the foundations for an esports scene.
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Imagine this taking off, Sega noticing and hiring these guys to join a team to work on an official competitive Riders game
I would love it if the guys who made all 3 of the mods got to make a new Riders game. I'm one of them.
This would be a really sega move too after the most recent racing game flopped abit
@@Channel-xy2wj
This isn't true for anything SEGA that isn't Sonic.
As nice as that sounds, Sega will always focus on the general public with Sonic so making a competitve based game that only would appeal to a niche audience and not a broader one like Sonic Mania does, won't sound interesting to them business wise, unfortunately...
@@islandboy9381 they were always about rewarding arcade like stuff with the original monkey balls and the adventure games pre 06, but then they decided to dumb everything down for casuals, with shit like colors and forces and banana blitz and roll. They ditched stuff that people could get angry at for stuff that nobody can lose
Sonic Riders was such a unique racing experience compared to just the normal go karting trilogy and the R games
I remember playing it at the dentist lmaooo
wish they remastered it
Go karting trilogy???
@@iregretsomeofmypreviouscom3284 yes, sonic and sega allstars racing
@@FBBReppCloud that's not go karting lmao
This game was my childhood, I'm surprised to see that there is a competitive scene
SAAAMME
Same.
Hehehe competitive SONIC FREE RIDERS the 1 on the Xbox 360 where you control by using the XBOX CONNECT
@@elicantu6015 God! Could you imagine?! what a trip that would be
SAAAME BRO. IT MAKES .E SO HAPPY OTHERS HAD SIMILAR CHILDHOODS. THIS AND SONIC HEROES!
Even as a kid, I always knew that Sonic Riders was no Mario Kart clone. It's not something you play on a party, it's to practice and understand its depht with trial and error. And I got stucked for hours on story mode races, but to master the controls is so satisfying.
It’s not a car it’s not no kart it’s something completely unique so no one can say anything. EXTREME GEAR!
I agree. The depth and timing and memorizing the different paths you can take and the question is if can you make the jump.
I'm glad you guys had the integrity to take down the original Riders video to add more information and highlight the other Riders mods that are closely linked with Tournament Edition, even though the original video was just fine in my opinion. Your reporting standards are what I wish more channels had.
EDIT: So it _may_ have been necessary, go figure
Okay so he did upload one before, thought I was going crazy lol
Akshon is great
I'm pretty sure that the first one was taken down because there were abuse allegations in the community
@@zoeyamon935 what do you mean?
*Reminder that they were false allegations.* Comments like that should not have been made on that old video in the first place. It had no relevance to the video, and spread out information that should not have been made to the public like that. We already have shit like that in dramas and the CC. We don't need that in a gaming community as well.
A new Sonic Riders with a focus on competitive would be something I'd definitely pay for
The more the community grows the more chances SEGA will finally notice the potential of this franchise.
I hope they don't, even if they were trying to cater to the comp community I don't trust SEGA to make a good riders game
@@CrimsonGaia yeah Sega kinda sucks lol
Rather let the fans do it then, Sega has been a disaster lately.
The Smash Ultimate of Sonic?
I kinda miss when Riders was my secret underrated pleasure, i mastered the game, i even learned english thanks to it but i'm also glad to see there's a lot of people to loves this game as i did and still do
I'm impressed
I would die for another Riders game that is competitive friendly. Especially ever since I've picked up Rider TE and DX, so seeing this show some recognition really makes me happy
I want a riders game on the new consoles just to see how far they crank the graphics
Something like CTR with sonic flair?
@@BBWahoo try sonic riders x then. its a fangame that pretty early in development but the visuals are crazy
God, long have I wished for SEGA to come back to the Riders series and make a new game out of it. I've had so many fond memories of this game and it's such a shame that it, and it's sequels were crushed into the depths of hell by youtube critics.
Well, the power of gaming journalism i guess, which kinda funny on how a bunch of people who doesnt have enough knowledge in game design and skill to play the game could authorize on what will "sell or not sell" in the market
I think we should pass the old way of "rating" a game, which should be done by the community it self (i.e prominent person, face of the community, or influencer), not a company with questionable verdict with their score
@@ladjiel Fortunately a lot of people are now realizing that many "professional" game critics and journalists are clowns who don't understand, or bother trying to understand, the games they review.
It’s weird that SEGA is the one that supports grassroots esports more than Nintendo
What youtube critics sh"t on Riders? The most prominent videos I can find on Riders praise it to an extreme degree while just mentioning that it has a crappy tutorial system. And for the vast majority of people who try the game, they will have a terrible time. You need to invest a *lot* of hours into Riders to even be decent enough to beat the full main campaign. And if you don't believe me get a friend who has never played Riders, explain the controls to them, show them a race, and then have them try to race. They will fall flat on their face for hours at the minimum and not have fun. To enjoy Riders you need to put dozens to hundreds of hours of practice in (which I have but I acknowledge it isn't for the general public.)
To be fair, Zero gravity had their own problems. While riders had a more beginner friendly control, Zero gravity introduce new turning system that doesn't feel natural for people that already conditioned by other kart racing game. Making it harder to get new audiences.
And Free Riders doesn't really help by being literally unplayable.
Say what you will about the Sonic community, it has some of the best modders and fan game creators of any community.
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Too bad that said mods will never be appreciated cause most people take sonic as a joke nowadays
The Sonic community has some of the nicest and most creative fans. It's insane how much shit it's gotten.
@@snewp_e2139 they literally get hired to SEGA
Damn, the segment on the differences between Nintendo's and Sega's approach to fan games is so appalling for a second I thought, "Imagine the games Nintendo fans could make with Nintendo if Nintendo didn't actively hate their own fans."
I've waited for this day for 15 years. Sonic Riders was one of the very first games I ever played and it is certainly in the Top 5 games I've spent the most time playing. *The time for Sonic Riders Vindication has come.*
Also, if Sega ever want to make a killing, they just need to make an HD remaster of Sonic Riders with Online support and then watch the movie roll in!
Big Thanks to Akshon for redoing the video!! Sonic Riders is definitely one of the most underrated Racing games, period. Some folks like to call it a fighting game disguised as a racer, and for good reason. While obviously more limited with tech than a fighting game like Melee, it doesn't at all mean that the game is short on competitive depth or mastery.
Also, as the video editor for Tournament Edition's and ExGL's trailers, it's very humbling to see my old works included.
The Protagonist was on-point with his explanation of Sonic Riders; took me ages to get to grasps with that game when I was younger. Cool concise video on this topic. I had heard of Tournament Edition and the work done on the original Riders but had not heard of Regravitafied so that was neat to learn about.
and DX :)
@@faradise3819 yeah the framing is a little weird. DX is just the next version, and is made by the same people as te and netplay mod. The people working on the new TE are starting from scratch from what I know
Its so weird seeing this game mentioned. I'm 28 and to this day, this is the ONLY game that has ever made me throw a controller.
I love the attempts at pronouncing 'Regravitified' lol
I prefer 'Regravitized' It's easier to pronounce, with a hint of fancy
Gotta admit he nailed it. I just felt bad for him having to say it so many times.
I would love them to make a competitive new sonic riders that would be most like the first one
Wouldn't be a bad idea for Sega to hire some of the people currently supporting the tournament-friendly versions of the older games, it worked for them with Mania.
@@inendlesspain4724 As one of the mod devs I honestly hope they don't. After playing comp for so long you realize how flawed a lot of the decisions in the originals were, and especially with the recent games I dont trust SEGA to make a good riders game.
@@CrimsonGaia Isn't that why they'd be hiring the people?
@@darkhorse744 games arent the product of individuals, there are pressures from many sources even for a small team like ours, and especially within a large company like sega.
@@CrimsonGaia Mania still managed to turn out all right.
Also, there are parts of the Company like ATLUS and RGG Studio that SEGA higher ups don't seem to interfere with too much.
So I can see it possibly working, I can also see it failing tho, that's also a possibility.
I've watched 2-3 years ago Liam Triforce video on Sonic riders and damn, wonder if he would shed a tear knowing that eventually Sonic Riders DID get it's own competitive scene
Finally, recognition and validation of me playing one of my most memorable games in the ps2
Just wanna thank this video for making me aware of the competitive scene for this game. I joined the discord a couple months after watching this because a friend pointed out there was an upcoming tournament, and now I'm prepping for another tourney in 4 days! The community's been great fun from what I've experienced, and the game feels so alive with the edits tournament edition has made
I hope to see this community continue to grow
Did you win ?
@@DeepakKumar-fi4os nah I still haven't won any, haven't been able to compete in a while either (executive dysfunction lol)
I'm still in the discord tho and wanting to get back in the swing of things soonish
Glad the game has a second chance. Riders was a family favorite back in the day.
This was truly the first time that I saw a racing game being treated this competitively, probably because most people see the race genre as a more casual and chill one but this mod looks very good xd
CTR Nitro Fueled is pretty competitive.
you should see some high level matches. This game goes so fast its very easy to miss things on commentary
TrackMania îs about the most competitive you can get for racing games bro, you should check out some videos If you're looking for competitive racing games, they have small worldwide tournaments every single day with the "cup of the day"
As someone who's in the Extreme Gear Labs server, I can say not only is the game fun but everyone i've talked to there is hella chill, and there's most definitely always gonna be someone to play with, and multiplayer is alot of fun.
Loved this game as a kid, glad it’s getting the attention it deserves.
I remember seeing this in my subscription feed the other week but it seems like it got deleted, glad you guys posted it again.
So it was a reupload. For a second, I thought I was having false memories of watching this video before.
Maybe we'll get a new Riders game. Imagine, just imagine that.
I used to love this game it’s so good that people are now playing it as an esport
What a missed opportunity for Crimson Gaia, one of the developers for the discord server Extreme Gear Labs (Sonic Riders) to announce himself with a prolonged "hello" as Crimson Gaia, one of the developers for the Sonic Riders DX mod for the discord server Extreme Gear Labs (Sonic Riders).
HEEELLLOOO EVERYONE CRIMSON GAIA here for extreme gear labs
Why is that missed opportunity?
I remember playing Zero Gravity, it was fairly fun. Interesting that Riders is seeing a competitive scene, really cool!
That’s how it always was for me back then and still now especially with 4 players
I still play my original copy of Sonic Riders and Zero Gravity. I wanna try my hands at this! So glad I found this video!
Secret nostalgia unlocked. I used to play this and I loved it and I still love the music.
Do Super Gekitou Ninja Taisen 4 next (we're even partnered with that discord)
This is a great idea, it's such a great mod of a gamecube classic just like sonic riders. It also has an interseting story behind it that would make an good video.
yes please
I would like, comment and subscribe on that video.
Yes please
i heard that server got shut down cause the owner got blackmailed or something, or was that the other gnt4 server?
AAAAAA, look its meEEEEE! Also thanks so much for making a video on our community, I love your vids so much I acc watch them religiously. So to see one on the game I play and on the community that I'M a part of. Is like. Idk feels like a fever dream. Thank you. Awesome video.
this guy...
@@salagatg3952 yes.
Ah here we go again 😂😂😂😂
This video just made my afternoon, Sonic Riders is one of my absolute favorite games on the GameCube love seeing y'all talk about it!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I remember sucking at Riders but loving it so much. So glad its coming back!
i played zero gravity and i got really mixed memories of it. It was fun but hard and strange to handle at the same time. Liked the maps tho, great designs
Sonic Riders was one of my favorites of my childhood, I'm so glad about seeing it get a resurgence thanks to a competitive scene!
I saw this video up a couple weeks back and was curious what happened to it. Whatever it was, I'm happy to see it return! I absolutely adore this game
Finally this game is getting justice!!! It felt really great getting good at it 💕
I never knew there was still a community. I am glad because Sega developed something innovative and fun. Perhaps they can do some special promotion with Sonic the Hedgehog 2 which comes out next year.
I remember playing Sonic Riders as a kid and thinking “this is legitimately the greatest racing game I’ve ever played.” It’s so cool to learn this game has a scene.
I LOVE LOVE LOVE the spotlight this channel puts on smaller competitive scenes! Please keep it up!
Damn I use to play Both Sonic Riders a lot as a child and to see there is a tournament scene for this?! We'll Count me in I like being competitive give me more to do when streaming and bringing back old school games cause these newer games is not doing my justice right now!
One of the core aspects that makes Riders competitive is its focus on player interaction. There's attacking and tornadoes (which let you zone) and catchup mechanics.
The modding and game balance for both of these mods is really well done. It's a shame how "Tournament Edition" was stolen from the community, but luckily they're still continuing the work on Riders through DX.
airking spit is meant to lubricate your mouth
Why do you talk about yourself in the 3rd person? Lmao
This was a big game during my childhood and I love seeing it evolve this way.
I really hope they make another riders with the boost formula
This game was so much fun once I learnt how to play it. Hoping someday it can come back.
Correction at 3:44
His username is Sewer56, not Sewer64.
Big credit goes to the users listed on 3:55. A lot went into making this happen and they all deserve credibility for their time spent.
dam i remember meeting the protagonist yeeears ago at a small smash tourney in staten island. that shit was so lowkey lmao. im glad to see him sprinkled around in the sonic community randomly.
Sonic riders was such a great game! Had ton of fun playing it on ps2
What an amazing video, as a SRTE player it was really cool to see this project getting time in the spotlight
I used to play this on my PS2 waaaay back. The game didnt save to my memory card so I had my ps2 on for days to not lose progress lmao. this shit is hype af
I've always loved Sonic Riders. I'm glad people feel enough to give it this treatment.
Kinda funny since I remember renting this game and with me and my bro always trying to figure out how to beat story mode and eventually beat the game. It was hard but it was very rewarding when the cards were all on place. And the both of us loved to play the game in general and just try to reach first place. So yeah it was a very skill focused racer that takes time and is rewarding.
This is a reupload, right? 'Cause I definitely watched this before. I so recall the video being around 15mins long.
Did something happen? D:
Edit: Aight, so,new vod, more info in it. Glad they even bothered ^_^
I think so yeh
Same here
I'm glad I'm not the only one
They removed and updated the original video as it was missing some key info about the community
@@CrimsonGaia Thanks! I appreciate the info you just gave, there.
Riders was a very unique experience and I really enjoyed it. There was definitely potential
I grew up with this and Zero Gravity on the PS2, so glad to see a video done on it! I would absolutely watch an esport of this
I loved Sonic Riders Zero Gravity that came on the Wii. That was my favorite one.
I remember seeing the original Sonic Riders when I was younger; it just felt so cool and different from other racing games. It probably won't happen, but I'd love to see a sequel in this series.
hope whatever the controversy was with the last video got sorted out.
What happened? I noticed this was a Re upload, but what controversy was there?
@@sinfinite7516 The original video only covered "tournament edition" (and rather inaccurately) while not mentioning SRDX and Regravitified at all (which are made by the original developers behind "tournament edition").
Because of that, a lot of community members had essentially protested the inaccuracies (mainly the lack of mentioning SRDX and the way the video framed "tournament edition" as made by the 3 people interviewed when the current version of TE was made by the people who made SRDX) and the platforming of The_Protagonist, who has harassed, threatened, attempted to extort, other crimes, etc. against members of the community.
Keep in my recollection of the old video might not be perfect since I can't go back and check.
I played this game on the ps2 and I played it hard. Such an awesome game, a couple of years ago I searched for an online version official or unofficial, I'm glad to see there's a real Discord for it now.
Sonic Riders 1 is my favorite Sonic racing game. I still have the preorder shirt somewhere. I remember watching the trailer over and over until the game came out. I also love Kirby Air Ride.
Props to Sega for helping people that mod their games in order breathe new life into them,like Sonic Mania
I've always loved this game.
Thank god the first one's getting noticed and not their older brother, ZG. Augh.
This just warms my heart. Even though I'm not a racing game guy, I loved Sonic Riders, played the original on release even. Many fond memories. Ironic, even though I love fighting games, I can see myself trying out competitive Sonic Riders more than trying out competitive SSB Melee.
This game was so fire as a kid. I didn't even know there was competitions for this. Thanks for bringing it to my attention I'll definitely check it out!.
phenomenal game, i had like 500+ hours on it back on ps2 days
Would you please consider covering the rise and demise of S4 League? It might not be a very interesting story but maybe you will want to cover it. It has been a core part of my childhood and it's sad to see it be forgotten, only barely surviving with private servers (namely Xero). It's not a success story but please take a look at it.
Sword fights on S4 were *chefs kiss*
I also want a video of S4
I could have sworn I've watched this video before. Hearing the intro gave the biggest hit of deja vu. A reupload, maybe?
I think so
Yea maybe copyright broblems on some song?
It was reuploaded to update some of the info, I believe.
@@SirknightDevoir ;)
Yup, def a reupload.
Riders may very well be the best racing game to incorporate light fighting game mechanics
Super glad that people are finally taking notice of Sonic Riders. It's a surprisingly deep and fun game to play
Just imagine years later we got official new Sonic Riders game.
I never thought there was a day where akshon eSports would talk about Sonic riders competitive, but I'm so happy they did
I hope they make another one in the future 😭 game was to goated
Sonic riders was one of my favorite games as a kid. Played it with my brother all the time
Glad to see they remade this video!
I'm glad to see this competitive mod getting the exposure it deserves.
It's a shame the credit for the mod isn't being given where it's deserved.
When I was young and one of my baby teeth would need to be pulled, my parents would buy me some ice cream and a game of my choosing. Sonic Riders was one of the games I got and I remember absolutely loving it. I can't believe that it got melee'd
I hope this game get his new chance. I love to play it in the past
0:32 damn that shit hit me with so much nostalgia
I just found out about Sonic Riders DX a few days ago and it has already taken over so much of my free time. Obviously there's the features mentioned in the video where they made the game more competitive, but the team is also adding new characters/gear, adding skins for characters, and even revamped the graphics (I forgot to what quality but it's LEAGUES better than it's GameCube days). I adore the team working on this project and cannot wait to follow it into the future!
a video about the titanfall competitive scene would be dope :)
I love Sonic riders. I hope this new wave of interest pushes Sonic team for a new entry.
i always say this until i realize they wouldn’t be able to do it well lol
@@deanmoriarty6015 they could always cut their losses and port it.
I honestly appreciate this exists. Sonic Riders was always one of those games that just seemed sick as hell to me. I never owned a copy as a kid but I’d play it whenever I saw it at my local K-Mart GameCube kiosk. It was just so dope that I always imagined having a birthday cake with Sonic Team riding hoverboards as toy decorations. The design, the extreme sports aesthetic, the speed. It was all just really dope for 10 year old me and I’m glad it’s getting at least a little shine.
Sonic Riders was my shit as a kid, and like CTR, it's waaay more complex and deep than Mario Kart, it ain't a casual game, you have to practice and learn the game mechanics to really appreciate it, i loved this game to death and it makes me sad that Free Riders sucked and killed the series. I wish a comeback would happen someday, it's such an unique racing game, it's amazing and underrated.
I love Sonic Riders! This game is super fun and I did not know there was a competitive scene? I gotta look into this!
damn ... what a video great topic ... I consider myself specifically a sonic riders fan I played it for approximately 800 hours
The intro of this game is *FIRE* 🔥🔥🔥
Also, apparently according to some comments, the same people that worked in the intro of this game worked on the Levi Vs Kenny fight animation in attack on Titan
I'd love to do this for Snowboard Kids 2. That game is pretty friggin close for an item based racer with a few things holding it back. Mostly because of the ability to deflect attacks back without items which requires timing to pull off. There's a fair amount of play and counter play there.
I really liked this game as a child. I'm super motivated to try out the competitive versions
Same
Yo this is so sick! I loved playing the Sonic Riders games and being introduced to Jet, Wave, and Storm. That's cool as fuck to see there is a community surrounding the game. I'd pay for a more competitive Sonic Riders. If for nothing else than to experience the game again.
Finally some reconciliation lol. A lot of ppl didn’t know abt the competitive scene for this game. I think it’s super underrated. Not only as a competitive game but just a fun game in general.
I remember trying to get into this, couldn't get the mod working properly sadly, but I tried the changes in single-player and it feels really good
I'm so glad my favorite racing game is getting the attention it deserves. Now I have a reason to refine my skills and maybe join some tournaments.
Happy seeing this get more love. It's really good! If having a high learning curve. It's the only good thing about the 15th anniversary. I'll always defended this game and Zero G.
A lot of reviews for riders didn’t realize that air was a resource you could gain outside of pit stops IIRC which was one factor that probably contributed to Riders low review score.
Never trust IGN
@@thadex454 Meh, there's a lot of times where their reviews are fine and the backlash to them is unreasonable.
There's just no game that has the speed, technique, or vibe of Riders, it needs to see a new entry!
Sonic riders franchise plays a huge part of my childhood. Although I don't play the games anymore :c I still listen to their soundtracks especially when doing some cardio acts.
As a kid playing this I never realized how in-depth the game actually was. So glad to see a piece of childhood again
I would love a sequel but with extended tracks, more characters and more shortcuts 😄
Glad you guys reuploaded this!