The world’s fake Van Goghs and Basquiats come from this village

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  • @edukid1984
    @edukid1984 2 ปีที่แล้ว +229

    Not sure if I agree with the word 'fake' in your title, since these are clearly sold as replicas instead of trying to pass as originals to defraud buyers.

    • @cpvlogger3480
      @cpvlogger3480 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is replica and fake are the same?

    • @darrenvarley105
      @darrenvarley105 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@cpvlogger3480 Replica comes across as less harsh and demeaning. Words hold power. Also, I believe a proper synonym for a replica would be the word 'copy'. Many buyers have been duped by fakes and lost thousands, even millions.

    • @rhatid
      @rhatid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@cpvlogger3480 replica and fake are NOT the same.

    • @momentarilylapse
      @momentarilylapse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@iamlizardz The works they are copying are classical works in the public domain. There's no permission to be gotten. Doing master copies of artworks is a longstanding artistic tradition. Here's a quote from an online Sotheby's article about it: "The list of famous artists whose documented admiration of, and copies after the Old Masters is endless; Landseer after Rubens; John Singer Sargent after Velasquez; Henri Fantin Latour after Titian and Veronese, Géricault after Caravaggio and earlier; Watteau after Titian, Van Dyck after Tintoretto, Matsys after Raphael, to name but a few. "

    • @evelynfarfellwooosh1219
      @evelynfarfellwooosh1219 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@iamlizardz Isn't replicas and original just the same? Just the difference in time they were created. And Fakes are of lower quality.

  • @waiminglau8960
    @waiminglau8960 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I watched and I realized why the Chinese are so successful. Just feel proud to be a Chinese anywhere in this world. Survival is in our blood

  • @christophercape9562
    @christophercape9562 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    I think about the relationship between art and painting consistently and it’s cool to catch a glimpse of another person’s thoughts from across the globe and feel like they have a similar vibe.

  • @Paperfragment
    @Paperfragment 2 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    It's interesting, cause our modern super expensive art schools in America teach us by having us copy old great masters' art, which is based on the European style of apprenticeship. So they essentially have the same training as artist that pay 50k for art education and are expected to sell their works for thousands. But cause this is in China these artist can only sell there work for a few dollars, yet the amount of work and experience that goes into each piece doesn't change because of geography.

    • @Goldthread
      @Goldthread  2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      great perspective! art is hard work, period.

    • @PrincessSakuno
      @PrincessSakuno 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It's unbelievably unfair, sigh

    • @plumli4947
      @plumli4947 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      As an art school graduate, that's assuming you did fine painting and is successful. Most art school students I know did practical design modelled off the Bauhaus school and work for wages. Also a lot of students end up doing minor commission pieces for less than 1K most their lives. It's true there's less opportunities in China but there are Chinese artists in the Fine Arts world going to Art Basel and stuff making millions off a piece. Also I come from Canada, but honestly I find some Chinese institutions are closer to American levels of prestige, wealth, and popularity than other western countries (*cough* Canada *cough*)

    • @alexleanh
      @alexleanh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Goldthread "Replica" is a copy by definition and common sense... NOT a fake. When you try to pass a copy as an original on the market to sell it for the original's price, then it's a fake. ALL of these copies from China (and all over the world) are well-known copies.... and they are not signed or passed off as the originals. A real Van Gogh can cost millions and belong in a museum or Christie auction, while these copies cost a mere hundred (or less) dollars and selling on Ebay!!! Get real, and change the misleading title of this video.

  • @eduardochavacano
    @eduardochavacano 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Oh my God! I am trying to recall the name of this place so I can put this on spot on my Top 20 places to visit in China. Oh, i love this amazing place!

    • @maxlinder5262
      @maxlinder5262 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dafen... southern part of China....

    • @eduardochavacano
      @eduardochavacano 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Max Linder Yes, I got it from the video. But Thanks. Now, I’m sure about the spelling. I’m editing a video about China. This town is super impression and its in Shenzhen, so even more impressive.

    • @sabihatanveer8494
      @sabihatanveer8494 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dafen

  • @RoxasLov3r4Ev3r
    @RoxasLov3r4Ev3r 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    What the hell. These artists are sooooo incredibly talented, they should definitely raise their prices!!! How underpaid and undersold they are is so criminal 😭😭😭

    • @AbbiAbii
      @AbbiAbii 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Welcome to the art world when a talented one get paid less then a stupid one like banana tape on the wall..

    • @lilibililili2320
      @lilibililili2320 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@AbbiAbii sadly today's contemporary art world do not count skills as an art only new concept creative and ideas are taken as an art... Like Damien hirst...

    • @lilibililili2320
      @lilibililili2320 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AbbiAbii now a days people buys idea, same goes for "banana duct tape" it was to mock today's contemporary art world like🍌 banana(symbolize diff meaning).

    • @AbbiAbii
      @AbbiAbii 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lilibililili2320 i dont hate the art... but people who aprove to place it on museum... many talented people get ignored...

    • @yoloyearwood2477
      @yoloyearwood2477 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      THEY ARRRR NOT ARTISTS. THEY HAVE NO CREATIVE BONES IN THEIR BODY. THEY ARE COPY CATS AND CATS ARE SATAN

  • @hellovicki6779
    @hellovicki6779 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I find it very sad that such skilled artists receive so little compensation for their work, I wish society appreciated art and creativity more, it is the fundamental difference between humans and the rest of life on Earth and I think the better part of our nature.

    • @TMNmedia
      @TMNmedia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Skilled but didnt make original art whats the point in that ? Def cant value a copier much than artist who makes their own arts.

    • @MrGeolyse
      @MrGeolyse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@TMNmedia they make there own art dude. bt they cant live from it. they said it at the end of the video

    • @nickblack8350
      @nickblack8350 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TMNmedia most artists at some point in their career make copys of the old master paintings

    • @TMNmedia
      @TMNmedia 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nickblack8350 they dont sell counterfeit are they ?

    • @nickblack8350
      @nickblack8350 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TMNmedia van gogh was known to do exact copies of millet, does that mean his work has no value?

  • @lurkingarachnid7475
    @lurkingarachnid7475 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    actually he should have a TikTok account show how to paint copies and how to create original, he'll he like the Bob Ross of China

    • @Goldthread
      @Goldthread  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      good point... he has a great voice too like Bob Ross.

  • @oviliatam7540
    @oviliatam7540 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    尊敬文化人藝術~謝謝制作~♡♡♡♡♡

  • @ZoeCuiM
    @ZoeCuiM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Come on Godthread. Fix the misleading title please. They are clearly making replicas, not fake Van Gogh.

    • @tiwantiwaabibiman2603
      @tiwantiwaabibiman2603 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fake, replicas, reproductions, fakes - it's still in violation of most western countries' Copyright and other laws, especially for artists who passed in the last 70-75 years. The narrator did use the phrase "near perfect replicas". Just sayin...

  • @henrypang4734
    @henrypang4734 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    $15! Can't even get 1 dozen tubes of oil paint!!!
    I will definately buy them and put it in my house!!

    • @MichaelFlynn0
      @MichaelFlynn0 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      15 dollars is one single 50ml tube of oil paint in Australia.

  • @alexleanh
    @alexleanh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When I took an art class in university, the professor said: "It's not a fake if it's unsigned and has not tried to pass as the original... rather, it's a copy. All student artists learn by copying from the masters." And... copying is a major method of teaching arts in the US and other western nations. So, why single out the Chinese artists with their copies and demeaning them with the label "fake"? Especially when they are NOT trying to pass it off as a fake, but rather just a copy like many western artists do.

  • @eDrIClImOAnCo
    @eDrIClImOAnCo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It is always said that imitation is the best form of flattery, and that they are doing this for so long makes them experienced painters

  • @armstrongchan1417
    @armstrongchan1417 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I Will visit DaFen village, not very far away from where I live, 3 hours by high speed train... now get a good reason to visit shenzhen again

  • @moo422
    @moo422 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Super fascinating - had not heard about these reproductions before.

    • @eduardochavacano
      @eduardochavacano 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i saw a teenage girl painting 6 replicas of a European painting SIMULTANEOUSLY!

  • @1063-x6b
    @1063-x6b 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That's how the masters taught their disciples back then, and artist still do study painting of the master's work. These guys just did it for longer. I'm a beginner painter and this is giving me ideas on how to improve my skills.

    • @tiwantiwaabibiman2603
      @tiwantiwaabibiman2603 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, and that's still a teaching method in art schools today. The difference is the student artists are "copying" to learn not as a job selling them.

  • @christopherneufelt8971
    @christopherneufelt8971 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Nope. These are not fake. They are absolutely real, and can be affordable and enjoyed by everyone. By the way, these are artists.

  • @Denzel_Plays
    @Denzel_Plays 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    im from here, this is so nostalgic

  • @kylinki7
    @kylinki7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Practice makes perfect! Wish their original works sold better

  • @JohanSebastianCorn
    @JohanSebastianCorn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Amazing and haunting. The art world truly.

  • @drcrem9160
    @drcrem9160 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I expected the smallest sized canvas to cost at.eadt 200-300 or more depending on the style

  • @Igrejavirtual7SaoMamedePB
    @Igrejavirtual7SaoMamedePB 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Magnifico...👏👏👏👏

  • @HongKong.Shenzhen.
    @HongKong.Shenzhen. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yes it is an amazing place!

  • @wynterkyle4824
    @wynterkyle4824 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I also replicate master's painting, but as a form of practice, you can learn so much following the big shots foot steps!

  • @__hulyen
    @__hulyen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    1,200 galleries??? sounds like my dream destination! they are all so incredibly talented, too. hope they get to paint what they like and gain recognition for it as well.

  • @saraswatisky3119
    @saraswatisky3119 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Chinese people are so skilled. They can do everything. I wish that the world appreciated their contribution.

  • @Chronomatrix
    @Chronomatrix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That's crazy, oil paintings are quite expensive, 15$ could easily be what a small painting costs to make in material cost.

  • @ЛейляБашмакова
    @ЛейляБашмакова 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Башмаков Фирдэвес Фэритович , работы на ТЯПЬ - ЛЯПЬ ... краски и материалы ЖАЛКО... Я - лучьше напишу...

  • @totoys1573
    @totoys1573 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I hope to buy one of their original works

  • @mountain-roots
    @mountain-roots 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    WOW, reminds me of the Doc Who episode when the artist gets to see his paintings be truly loved.
    Great artist

  • @nafuhsil6790
    @nafuhsil6790 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this place just near my home!

  • @johnwheat5199
    @johnwheat5199 ปีที่แล้ว

    At least these are honest knock offs, unlike The Salvator Mundi!

  • @OjaysReel
    @OjaysReel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Probably something every artist mulls over; do art for art's sake or get fed even if it means originality beautifully dying multiple times...for a while at least.

  • @billparr
    @billparr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    They look real to me, just painting style resembles famous painter but not fake. They are replicas maybe but not fake. Dumb for saying these are fake. These are art works

  • @angelitotiapson1461
    @angelitotiapson1461 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice!!!

  • @arnobioverde6165
    @arnobioverde6165 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    🎨🖌👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

  • @Kent_GM
    @Kent_GM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Why use the words "copies" or "fakes"? These are clearly marketed as replicas. If this city was not in China I'm sure the works done wont be labelled as "fakes" like you've done here

  • @reilross9158
    @reilross9158 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would definitely buy their art 🎨💕but I don't have money for that yet, I'm still a student.

  • @Layput
    @Layput 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I need to visit this place and buy a copy of mona lisa and other paintings

  • @stephen_lee10
    @stephen_lee10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    amazing, would be fun to do this for a living

    • @eduardochavacano
      @eduardochavacano 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The people selling these paintings online make more money than the painters. I was asked to sell some online. I decided to just learn how to paint and just be a poor artist.

  • @armchairwomanmao2922
    @armchairwomanmao2922 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I saw an American woman off Instagram selling her "mop art" ( yes painting with a mop!) which is like drawing circles using a mop on canvas randomly ... After seeing these real artists slaving for a few dollars in contrast to her getting such sh!tty work sold for thousands makes me furious!! 😠

  • @ewakociubinska5236
    @ewakociubinska5236 ปีที่แล้ว

    Malujcie swoim stylem ,swoja tematyke...

  • @2degucitas
    @2degucitas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I want one. Copies are fine with me.

  • @mahesswareeninaunuth9009
    @mahesswareeninaunuth9009 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the phone number of the artist’s shop ?

  • @s.k.3891
    @s.k.3891 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Skill is nice, but it is creativity and originality that counts!

  • @kengsenchong4010
    @kengsenchong4010 ปีที่แล้ว

    The world’s ''fake'' Van Goghs and Basquiat come from this village. ''Replicas'' is the right word. A fake by a forger is when the size is the same as the original and imitates the artist's signature with the intention to mislead prospective buyers for a large sum of money. Before the advent of the color printing press, Europeans buy painted replicas of Rubens, Rembrandt and what have you. Today one can obtain permission to imitate artworks in Western art museums provided the format is not the same as the original.

  • @betacross3675
    @betacross3675 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If I had a chance Ill buy from them but not replicas but a piece of their own.

  • @throughmyeyes9940
    @throughmyeyes9940 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When is the "art world" going to realize that Basguiat's work is pure and simple crap since the rest of the world already knows it?

  • @Ikaros23
    @Ikaros23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What people in the comment`s need to understand is that the market don`t pay a premium for " hard work". It pays a premium for " value" and prestige. This is why Jean Michele Basquiat made it in the art market while others did not. He created a uniqe style. A style that was in alot of ways alot like other neo expresionists. But he also created " brand" by beeing brilliant at marketing and sales. It`s not just about creating art, but also about other skills like marketing and storytelling. That is playing on the arch type of the " Struggling artist" and having his own style ( the mix of hip hop and the business suite of the 80s).
    The art market actually don`t care where you went to school, it do help. But it is not a " great story". Comming from the ghetto in china, could be a part of a story like that ( the market do love underdogs). But there also needs to be a part that makes it stand out. That is if the artist had dyed his hair pink, or some other style. People would notice him more. It seems more like " artisan" work than real " Bohemian" or artist in the romantic tradition of the types of Oscar Wilde, Lord Byron, Picasso and so on. That is what the audience want`s to see. They want to have a story to talk about, when they brag to their friends about buying the artwork.
    In a lot of way`s a modern artist don`t even need to be 100% new. That is the art can be a form of " Remix" of other styles... But it need`s to stand out in a way.

  • @GEORGE.M.M
    @GEORGE.M.M 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They need an online store so we can buy!

  • @thehenny187
    @thehenny187 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fake is an inappropriate word

  • @katherinezp
    @katherinezp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where I can order it

  • @SimonLi
    @SimonLi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    whaaa thats so cool i didnt even know this existed lol

  • @aborworld3509
    @aborworld3509 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    O China, you are a magnificent place.

  • @psi_lucid
    @psi_lucid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This makes me a little sad. I wish I could meet one of these artists, learn more about who they are and purchase an original piece from them.

    • @tiwantiwaabibiman2603
      @tiwantiwaabibiman2603 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Email them or contact them on their IG. They're names are in the video.

  • @juliantotriwijaya9208
    @juliantotriwijaya9208 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's a replica, not a fake, don't discredit their skills plz.

  • @tonyiaido2066
    @tonyiaido2066 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    not FAKE ,

  • @saule141
    @saule141 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    C'est marrant. Van Gogh voulait faire aussi bien que les peintres japonais. Du coup, ce chinois qui peint à la manière de Van Gogh avec son propre style asiatique pourrait bien lui rendre un bel hommage.

  • @jackiwannapaint
    @jackiwannapaint 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the music is annoying

  • @wonhome2711
    @wonhome2711 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For hundreds or thousands of years ago, Chinese learned to paint by copying the masters, then develop their own style. The tradition lives on today but copying European artists instead. If you can't afford the real Van Goghs, the Chinese version is the next best thing

  • @89wings44
    @89wings44 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    moving to dafen real soon

  • @chrismalcomson7640
    @chrismalcomson7640 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Time and again you see artists and creative people getting paid nothing while hedgefund managers who contribute nothing to our lives, earn millions. I admire this guy. If you don't give up one day you'll get the reward for your work and people will be copying your work..

  • @mrirurfkjsdo
    @mrirurfkjsdo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A nightmare !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @ChrisAcheson
    @ChrisAcheson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Should be arrested for signing the paintings as originals.

  • @maggiejetson7904
    @maggiejetson7904 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Most famous painters start with copying early in their careers, this includes the famous 齊白石。

  • @Eugeniadella
    @Eugeniadella 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do they accept to be exploited being so talented????? Walk your own way!!!

  • @PanosSG55
    @PanosSG55 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    replicas, not fakes*

  • @PL-lt3wz
    @PL-lt3wz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fake? Replica is the proper word. Know or not?

  • @alexleanh
    @alexleanh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Replica" is a copy by definition and common sense... NOT a fake. When you try to pass a copy as an original on the market to sell it for the original's price, then it's a fake. ALL of these copies from China (and all over the world) are well-known copies.... and they are not signed or passed off as the originals. A real Van Gogh can cost millions and belong in a museum or Christie auction, while these copies cost a mere hundred (or less) dollars and selling on Ebay!!! Get real, and change the misleading and demeaning title of this video.

  • @MrBond-sl8zd
    @MrBond-sl8zd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ... what's chinese can not do !!.. 😂😍

  • @men_del12
    @men_del12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If Van Gogh learned that our world had looked at his paintings, described them in rich details, even referenced them in one of pop cultures, and that his name with face with.....voice can be heard everywhere (inside book, films, comic, etc.). If he learned that people like to make full productions of some of his paintings, what will he feel? Will he be surprised, cried with joy?

    • @arnieXD
      @arnieXD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You know whats ironic. Van goghs great grand nephew, theo van gogh, named after his great grandfather, did become famous. He was a film director, but was mostly well known as a vocal critic and almost authoritative figure on the issue of islamic integration in netherlands and free speech.
      In the end he got killed by an islamic extremist.
      Life is strange like that

  • @e8ghtmileshigh1
    @e8ghtmileshigh1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Soooo much sketch here

  • @maxlinder5262
    @maxlinder5262 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dafen... the southern part of China...

  • @zerocochrane1713
    @zerocochrane1713 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    sad

  • @michaeldamato9466
    @michaeldamato9466 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This kind of work would suck the life, and any kind of inspiration I would have.

  • @tooruoikawa8985
    @tooruoikawa8985 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “Basquiats, she learning a new word it’s yacht!” Don’t lie, Kanye taught us normies about his paintings!

  • @odissey2
    @odissey2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember times in US when one could buy some of those replicas for $30-40. It was an absolute garbage, not worth the wall space even in student dorms. It is gone now.

  • @mikeandersson7962
    @mikeandersson7962 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thats rhe world should do. Not only the richs who can afford to enjoy the monet ovat von gogh

  • @bouboumamiami7919
    @bouboumamiami7919 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the subject are interesting but we haven't seen any painting the cameraman didn't make any pic on the works painting pity.

  • @abdulkadirabdullahi2658
    @abdulkadirabdullahi2658 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They are not fake, they are replicas of other artworks. Please correct the misleading title, its disrespectful to those underpaid hardworking artists.

  • @user-bu9nb8wr6e
    @user-bu9nb8wr6e 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Copied

  • @mikeandersson7962
    @mikeandersson7962 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why should the comedian imitators can make alot of money, but not art replicators.

  • @francoisdesnoyers3042
    @francoisdesnoyers3042 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    His fake new Van Goghs look like crap.

  • @dannistor7294
    @dannistor7294 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's not an accident that in a clip over 4 minutes long, very little work is shown. And what can be glimpsed, here and there, is of an UNSPEAKABLE VULGARITY...

    • @acspore
      @acspore 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Huh??? You talk as though they’re slaughtering humans in a genocide, for goodness sakes, man, get hold of yourself! Chump.

  • @fuckbankers
    @fuckbankers 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Modern day slavery

  • @romulusbuta9318
    @romulusbuta9318 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "near-perfect copy of Mona Lisa " 😄😄😄😃🤣 GTF away from here !!!!!!!😀😀😂

    • @romulusbuta9318
      @romulusbuta9318 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do You know how Mona Lisa was painted ? Layer over layer, fresh paint over allready dried paint.....many -many layers !!!!
      At least you know what is the suport Mona Lisa was painted over .......????.

  • @sebastianmelmoth685
    @sebastianmelmoth685 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Originality, not painting, is what is valuable to humanity.

    • @00Julian00
      @00Julian00 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Listened to classical music lately? Ate a delicious plate of food invented 50 years ago? Technique mástery is also impressive, and is certainly more interesante than crap that happens to be original but lacks Technixal skill.

    • @sebastianmelmoth685
      @sebastianmelmoth685 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@00Julian00 Absolute nonsense. There are THOUSANDS of modern "classical" composers whose music is just as remarkable as those from the so-called classical eras. However, if you wish to lock yourself in a time closet.... no prob. Prokofiev called people who do so "empty coffins"

    • @00Julian00
      @00Julian00 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sebastianmelmoth685 i think many would agree with the notion that humanity benefits from ( and is allowed to be impressed by) technical mástery as well. .
      Clearly we kno to whom the biggest prize goes in a competición between two technically component people, one of whom happens to be the more original one...Of couse
      But surely those who lack that spark of originality shouldnt have be subjugated to the smart ass remarks of some douchey TH-cam commentator...no?
      Thank you for the comment about modern composers...i stand corrected.
      To use food, should i not value that pitmasters excellent barbeque because its a technique that probably traces back hundreds of years? Should i complain about the lack of originality? Must i be compelled to enjoy and cherish more deeply the veal loin with fermented blueberry and liquid nitrogen capsaicin cheese curds?

    • @sebastianmelmoth685
      @sebastianmelmoth685 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@00Julian00 Even food thrives on the principle of originality and creativity. The great food classics we have today were once original - and can be appreciated as such. However, the chef who continues to proffer up barbecue sauce and spare ribs, will certainly delight a certain sector of the restaurant-going population, but his lack of creativity and originality will hardly mark him down as a great discoverer or gastronomic genius. Nothing wrong with munching down on a burger - just don't call it haute cuisine. Same goes for art. Technical skill is important, of course - but it is only one fifth of what is needed. It is the difference between an acrobat and a prima ballerina. The acrobat will make you say "Gosh - that was impressive." The prima ballerina, however, may induce in the viewer a lasting cathartic experience of life-changing depth. Mere technical skill is nothing without creativity. I can teach a student to draw realistically in six months (6 weeks if he or she has natural talent). But once they have that skill, if they spend the rest of their lives drawing photo-realistic pictures of gormless, angsty teenagers, I would consider my lessons a failure. If you get stuck in the "technical skill only" trap, you are in danger of entering that giant hamster wheel of sterility, and all progress, innovation, creativity, and intellectual and philosophical progress, halts. Certainly, if you just tell people "Just be creative!" you will just have poo smeared on the wall. There must be balance.

    • @00Julian00
      @00Julian00 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sebastianmelmoth685
      i 80%agree with everything you wrote here. Thanks for sharing your post.
      I still dont agree with the Extremeness of the first comment ( for instance ,unless one more informed about figure skating tells me the contrary, it seems we are still justifiably appreciating and giving value to something( that is, its not without mérito as ur first comment implies) that hasnt seen significant changes in a couple of décadas, simply because the technical skill required is unrreachble except to a very few with sufficient dedicación..and its beautiful to see wat we humans can push ourselve to do)but alas... i wont press any further.
      On another note..
      In regards to food, i sincerely hope that we can agree that the pursuit of originality and creativity in food should have as its principal focus deliciousness ( to a large extent cultural, though not completely) and health. That is, the chefs who have succeded in creatively pursuing new forms of say, even an old "format"( ie ramen, Chacuterie, a tikka masala) with the final aim of a more delicious product should have infinetely more respect and value than the enormous quantity of chefs these days ( who happen to run fancy establishments)who seek what seems to be an aimless originality that has overlookedTASTE (and health.)
      If we can agree that the food worlds creative endeavours are truly only valuable wen the final product has deliciousness on its mind ( although there is something to be said about the very real nostalgia felt upon eating certain old dishes, if a more intelectual emocion is what we want to focus on) what for you should be the main objective of ones creativity and originality in painting? To bring forth a certainemocional response? Awe at the technical mastery of a certain technique?? .......
      .

  • @stephenhobbs1052
    @stephenhobbs1052 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These people are not artists

    • @00Julian00
      @00Julian00 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well that depends on your definition. Clearly they have the technical skill. I cant do what they do. Most cant. Imagine if they grew up with wealth, privilege, and access to those in positions of cultural power
      . I get your greater point about originality, but to be creative can at times be a luxury that not all can afford to pursue.
      " Maybe, i just have to sell cheap hamburgers and make a buck, instead of more creative food..."
      Basically, dont be a fucker.

  • @chraibi-dakhamayahya2128
    @chraibi-dakhamayahya2128 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Horrible !

  • @raultamaris9295
    @raultamaris9295 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Realy? This is what I feel something bad about chinesse crowd. Copying and misunderstanding everything

    • @porkcutlet3920
      @porkcutlet3920 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Did you even watch the whole video? They started painting and selling their own original works as well.

  • @danielvalleduarte
    @danielvalleduarte 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its funny how much I hate Van Gogh and love Basquiat, although both are tragic tales

  • @animalnt
    @animalnt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the equivalent of screenshotting NFTs

    • @littlekreeper8918
      @littlekreeper8918 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Terminally online person finds out the concept of paintings and reproductions

  • @theReal.JuanDelaCruz
    @theReal.JuanDelaCruz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Plagiarism 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @ot7stan207
      @ot7stan207 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Plagiarism is if you claimed it as your own. This is merely replicating

    • @ZoeCuiM
      @ZoeCuiM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Stupidity 🤦 someone's never heard of the word replica.

    • @theReal.JuanDelaCruz
      @theReal.JuanDelaCruz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ot7stan207 question, who gains money from it?

    • @fuanasantuary1277
      @fuanasantuary1277 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The buyers are mostly westerners

    • @rodjos5463
      @rodjos5463 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ever heard of Public Domain?

  • @TOGGGAA1
    @TOGGGAA1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    No one wants to hear these guys stories of being rip off artists and frauds because they’re poor villagers.

    • @littlekreeper8918
      @littlekreeper8918 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I do, I think reproduction is an incredibly valuable skill. Also they arent claiming that they're originals from the artists

    • @00Julian00
      @00Julian00 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I do. Who are you?

  • @007EnglishAcademy
    @007EnglishAcademy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    They are not fakes they are copies