Nordic Land Forces | Operational Quantities & Power Comparison | Sweden, Denmark, Norway & Finland
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In this review of the Nordic's land armies, the Finnish army (Maavoimat), the Norwegian army (Den Norske Hæren), The Swedish army (Svenska Armén) and the Danish army (Den Danske Hæren), we look at the quantities of both manpower and operational equipment. Please bear in mind that this list is not exhaustive as armies often do not disclose all of their gear. I've also left out some pieces that aren't really relevant on a regional level.
Before you jump into the comments to say that Iceland is also considered in the Nordics - yes I know. Iceland just doesn't have any military capability to speak of.
This is the first video of three which will focus on the different branches of the Nordic armed forces, next up will be the airforces, so if you want to make sure that you catch it when it comes live - please subscribe.
In conclusion, the Nordic countries have a quite large professional force, and when you include their reserves and home guards it is one of the most potent fighting forces of Europe.
The second video on the series is about the air force, and can be found here: • Nordic Air Force | Ope...
The third video about navies can be found here: • Nordic Navy | Operatio...
For the individual nations equipment and manpower, you can find the links to them here:
Denmark: • Danish Armed Forces | ...
Sweden: • Swedish Armed Forces |...
Norway: • Norwegian Armed Forces...
Finland: • Finnish Defence Forces...
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00:00 - 00:12 Intro
00:12 - 00:25 Main Battle Tanks
00:25 - 00:45 Infantry Fighting Vehicles
00:45 - 00:57 Armored Personnel Carriers
00:57 - 1:13 Infantry Mobility Vehicles
1:13 - 1:23 General Purpose Vehicles
1:23 - 1:32 All Terrain Vehicles
1:32 - 1:41 Military Engineering Vehicles
1:41 - 1:58 Artillery
1:58 - 2:13 Mortar Vehicles/Carriers
2:13 - 2:26 Personnel Mortars
2:26 - 2:44 MLRS
2:44 - 3:14 Anti-air Systems
3:14 - 3:32 Anti-armor Launchers
3:32 - 3:51 Logistics Vehicles
3:51 - 4:17 UAVs
4:17 - 5:47 Personnel
5:47 - 6:48 Upsides
6:48 - 8:28 Downsides
8:28 - 8:50 Outro
Here's the first video of three about the Nordic countries armed branches. We start off with the land armies. If you like this content I'd be honored if you'd subscribe. Any feedback is greatly appreciated! Thanks!
If, like me, you're a bit of a military nerd, here's the videos for the individual armed forces by country, these go more in depth on vehicle and arms types, the navy and the air force branches:
Denmark: th-cam.com/video/MKvNMflH2Vg/w-d-xo.html
Sweden: th-cam.com/video/7b_GuBbrunQ/w-d-xo.html
Norway: th-cam.com/video/Q5wel_IoPew/w-d-xo.html
Finland: th-cam.com/video/fCJ3clmQ_HQ/w-d-xo.html
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Mystery solved. Why finnish are so quiet and calm? Because they all are a f..n soldiers!😂 Reserve is massive.
When I was stationed there for two weeks in the 90s to do a NCO course we had this joke going. 'How do you tell an introvert Finnish person from an extrovert Finnish person?' 'The extrovert looks at your shoes when he's talking to you'.
I always found the Finns to be wonderful company, silent in the start but when you get them as friends you have them for life, they're loyal, caring and extremely fun company after a few beers or koskenkorvas.
All the Nordic countries are more or less quiet and calm.
@@MilitaryRated when you get Finnish a friend is for life and it goes beyond normal friendship..i am Finnish and some friends i would defend even dangerous situations... I was at mall.. and one guy was stabbed with knife.. No hesitation i went to help him.. this mentality we have here.. And most of all we want peace.. Nothing more
actually we have had them... also mall shootings.. just few weeks ago@ForeSightAndWisdom
Finns know stuff and are confident !
Finland:
I can carry you boys.
Finland's land army sure is one hell of a force. With the navy and airforce (until they get their F35s) it's a bit different. Norway and Sweden are currently carrying those departments, and Denmark also has a modern very capable navy.
If you can wait a few more years, Sweden will get its military back to.
@@MilitaryRated Hornets are still (after 30years) pretty good planes. Better what Russia can send. But yes F-35 will make a huge change. Finland will have 4 very modern corvettes also. I think Nordic countrys should start buy materials together. Cheaper price and its always good to operate same kind of systems. Nordic countrys have huge lansmass compare to other European countrys.
@@MilitaryRatedThe task for the navy is a bit different in Finland, as it has no need to be able to operate anywhere else than the Baltic Sea. The Finnish navy is not that big but it has one advantage that the rest of the Nordics are missing - my daughter as a NCO in the reserves. Took part in the NATO Baltops 23 excercise in the German waters last summer.
@@harrikuusjarvi3795 Agreed, ideally the Nordics should use the equipment produced in the Nordics first and foremost, and then outsource on the equipment they can't make themselves. It would also mean jobs locally, and money going to the states as the companies are all part state owned in the Nordics rather than 100% private in the US, France or U.K.
Well, you forgot the most important thing… The willingness to defend your country, which is +90% in Finland.
Immigrants bringing thqat down
All those I know have sworn to rush to defend their new homeland.
lol lower number does NOT mean we are not willing to defend our contry . What a stupid statement.
The entire idea of combined forces is infact the willingness to defend our friends too !
Finland also does it a diffirent way then the other 3 country the way there defence and training is setup. Since they are litterly right next to Russia via land. And im quite sure they looked at there history aswell the times they been to war with Russia. Which the other 3 really havent been in a very long time.
@@foggyfrog1653 Finland has least kela gold immigration and they are first to leave when war starts.
Wrong. Its going down all the time
Denmark donated our entire artillery to Ukraine. New has been ordered.
And a lot of F-16’s !!!!!! VERY GENEROUS AND LOYAL ! That is what you can call resolve ! and sold another part to Argentina, also Norway and the Dutch donated. Belgium only a few but participates in flight training. Delivery of the F-35 is quite late for BELGIUM as they entered the program very late, so needs its fleet ! Decided only about 4-5 years ago to join. The F-35 came a bigger success than thought, I rather saw more EU countries buying Gripen and also some Rafale and Super Hornet. Gripen for sure for Eastern European countries. Even Croatia bought Rafale. And Greece F-35 ánd Rafale, next to their fleet of quite recent F- 16. Rafale for sure for its anti-ship capability. And updated version of Eurofighter. You see Germany, Italy and the UK combine F-35 and Eurofighter. Where Germany first thought to buy some F-18 Growlers. The Swiss and Finns should down their fleet of F-18 and replace by F -35. No combination, sadly. The payload capacity of 2 engine planes like the F-18 is quite big !
And that is commendable in every way. If the West donated even half of the % of GDP donated as Denmark, Norway and the Baltic states the world would be a very different place right now.
Denmark is in a position to do this, while the rest of us are not. Maintaining defense readiness in an imperative from the point of view of deterring aggression.
I appreciate a Danish donation. It has been extremely important thing you danes did. And our country is prepairng to fight back if Russia tries to attack. I think it is again good Nordic co-operation.
Yeah I was impressed. Ice cold realistic calculation.
1:57 . Denmark was supposed to have 18 brand new artillery systems in 2023. We took the bill, but changed the delivery adress to Ukraine...
That is actually really cool! You guys are defending Denmark where it counts. At the front line.
I don't know wheter to laugh or cry on the idea of a whole nation having less artillery pieces than just the one brigade where I spent my consript service in
@@Jaggaraz218 Oh but I agree an that. But for many years European Politicians have been sitting in circles, padding eachothers backs with one hand and CircleJ with the other.
A new and good initiative is the defence cooperation between the Nordic Countries.
Eventually it will become the Kalmar Defence Forces (KDF) because scandinavians are suckers for nostalgia :-)
Wonderfull ❤
Finland is the shield of the north.
Not just by military numbers but by terrain.
Dense forests full of lakes swamps, rivers and massive boulders that make use of vehicles almost impossible.
The coat is a maze of hundreds of thousands of small islands and rock formations.
Each nordic country has things going for them in terms of terrain.
Swedish islands, Norways mountains.
And Denmark is practically a island, any attack on them would have to either defeat their navy (and possibly Norways and Swedens as well)
Or they'll have to face amphibious operations behind their lines all over Denmark.
And their capital literally is on a island, simplify their defense.
Finland isn't alone in being hard to invade.
Denmark is a bunch of islands.
Swedish forests have almost as much marsh and bogs as Finland, where we don't have mountains.
About lakes. If you count lakes LARGER than 1 ha (a little less than a half acre) Finland 'only' has around 56 000, compare that to the 65 000 in Norway, and 95 700 in Sweden.
But of course, Finland is smaller. AND, if we start to count every little puddle, larger than 1/2 ha Finland has 168 000 lakes.
The definition of "lake" in the 'Svenska Sjöregistret' (SMHI) is a little blurry, but OVER 369 000 lakes in Sweden.
I can only wish an ice cold 'good luck' (😈) to whomever tries to go through our countries.
Finland and Sweden have the same sort of archipelago, thousands of islands, islets and shallows. And more shallows. And a few more shallows. And between islands and shallows, some places can be pretty deep. Pretty much the same structure as on land. A lot of bumbs and pits.
Worth mentioning is that NORWAY isn't only mountains and fjords, they have lakes too. Close to HALF A MILLION, whereof a great majority are in the fjells. The difference between Norway on one side and Finland - Sweden on the other, is that Norway has almost all cities and villages relatively close to either the sea, or to a fjord, leading to the sea, whereas Fin - Swe have more spread out populations. Living between our lakes😃.
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😉 BUT, to my knowledge Sweden is the only country with a Russia safe archipelago outside of the capital 😂. "The Singing Sailor Underwater Defense System".
A neon sign with a guy wearing a sailor's hat and shorts, making Elvis-moves. You can also read the text "Welcome to Sweden, gay since 1944". The year is when Sweden legalized homosexuality.
To emphasize the message the system sends a Morse code: "This way if you are gay".
It's true! This is actually what you can find somewhere in the Stockholm archipelago. I don't know exactly where, but you search for the Morse code, if you like.
If it still works.
BUT, it's of course not made by any part of the Swedish Military Forces.
The opposite, actually. The Swedish peace organization Svenska Freds put it there in April 2015, a while ago.
Why? They not only dislike war (as if the rest of the people on Earth like it), they also dislike injustice, oppression and discrimination.
This is a humorous, but unfortunately not easy to spot, way to tell Russia to stay away, and change the political system to a real democracy AND get rid of the homophobic and stupid laws they have implemented about homosexuals.
@@Luredreier Sweden also has good neighboring countries, which Finland does not have...😂😂
I believe the point was that the first one on the line for an invasion will be Finland. Therefore the terrain is a huge factor, especially in the Eastern Finland.
@@annabackman3028 For the lakes or island counting, it usually depends on who is counting. Like they usually don't want their country come last among the Nordic ones...
For military every puddle that makes it impossible for the enemy to advance is counted no matter what its total size is.
Finland and Sweden does not have the same type of archipelago, not even close. Sweden has a "deep" coastline so that's why they have subs while Finland has a very shallow one, you can almost walk between islands and the islands are also growing every year due to the ice age pressing the land down(I can see the change during my life that rocks that e swam around as toddlers are now only touching water when its high). So already as someone growing up there you can drive with the boat through areas depending on the direction of the wind the last weeks(this is why city people usually end up hitting rocks because they don't always understand that the water level move by over a meter). My point is that all we need to do in Finland is to remove the markings for the lanes and it would become a very slow trip for boats without a local captain while in Sweden its deep waters.
FINLAND ! you're the Man 🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮❤❤❤- from Japan
The thumbnail....LOL :D. We do have brunettes too. And men. Anyway, it's nice to have Finland to protect us...
Aren't brunettes frowned upon in the Nordics? Just kidding, hehe. :)
Nice to have great neighbors who we pleasantly protect. But like this video says, we should make more of our forces and think where to buy stuff. We 4 countries will be very strong together 💪🏻🇫🇮🇸🇪🇳🇴 🇩🇰 💪🏻
I’ll dream of the thumbnail…please 😊
@@funchameleon68 We could prob develop some stuff ourselves (and do), Sweden has a phenomenal arms industry. New Swedish/Finnish carbine in many versions will be from Finnish SAKO who makes very good hunting rifles and Finland also have other very good companies like Patria. We got Norwegian NAMMO and Kongsberg. Not sure what Denmark has but can probably provide superb logistics. (and spy on the neighbors about the deals, *wink wink*)
The new rifles will come in these variants and will probably get the designation AK24 or variants thereof:
All info subject to change*
* AK24 pdw: 5,56x45 with 11,5” barrel
* Automatic carbine: 7,62x51 with 16” or 18” barrel
* Marksman rifle: 7,62x51 with 18” or 20” barrel
* Sniper rifle: 8,6x70 with 27” barrel
* Anti material: 12,7x99
* Machine gun: 7,62x51
And a + for it's looks. I'm not 100% but I think it is based on the M4.
I don‘t prefer blondes and reds anyway. 😂
It`s nice to see how well finnish military leaders has set up the forces and equipments. They knew what they would be against. They have about everything Ukraine desperately wants now.
Don't fuck with Finland seems to be the lesson to me (and I am danish) :D ... SO glad to have Finland and Sweden join us in NATO! 💪
Poles feel better too
100500+
Comrade Stalin tried to fight Suomi in 1939-1940 and gave up.
Finns will never forget russkki occupation 1809-1917 and wars against them and soviet threats from 1945 till now.
KGB Putin, don't even try.
Im not. Bad decision
@@eugbogu8633 its not same country anymore
@@eugbogu8633 As much as I hate the Soviet union and Putin, the first years under the Russian empire were actually very nice for Finns and we had extremely wide autonomy, it was arguably better than under the Swedish kings, until russification started to be a thing.
It's a week later, and here is the second video on the series about the Nordics Air Force: th-cam.com/video/GMD5z9-ws2M/w-d-xo.html
Edit: and a week after that, here's the navy: th-cam.com/video/y-XzOTzJtOs/w-d-xo.html
This is really good informative and impressive. Keep up the good work.
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Russians are likely to go wild when talking about Finland XD
@@Juhani96 nah, not really. Most russians know nothing about Finland and ever less about "oh so mighty finnish army". 😂
What exactly so flammable they can wrote about Finland? Some WW2 old history data?
@@lolnoobus Generally from moderating videos about the Finnish army there are plenty of things they are saying. Often disguising themselves as 'Finnish' users dissing the army, dissing Finland's liberal democratic values and generally pretending to be oh so manly. It's a thing, trust me.
@@lolnoobus usually yes, winter war is a hard topic for russians, cause soviet union was invader and they didin't get into the goal. Also the false flag operation behind it. And then comes questions about karelia :D
@@lolnoobus and yes, kreml have/ had their own dissinformation/ hating campaing against finland. back in 2022-2023 they started to remove finno-russo war memorials from border area. I have seen also pro-russian finnish videos and interwievs how we should not exist and we should get invaded. I think st. petersburg region people know us and also baltic states very well, because they used to visit us a lot cause of products they don't have in Russia. (cheese products, chocolate and cleaning stuff they prefer)
Good video. Finland has a largest and I would say most accutare artillery in Europe. ”While You Were Partying, we Studied the Blade”, meaning that we have a long memory and the first hand knowlege of how Russian opression and war crimes work. Ne never forgot those lessions and trained and planned accordingly.
Finland most of the time was under Sweden btw. And later it was Grand Duchy of Finland under Russian protection and later when the revolution happened in Russia the freedom for Finland was given accepted by Russia without any warfare... But Finland in 1939 was a threat for USSR and was preparing for war as a HItler's ally what would happened later in 1941. So don't threat Russia, you will be defeated any way. Russia remember everything.
Finland’s conscript and reserve system produces a fighting force of 280 000 soldiers in time of war. So the army is not fully functional operationally without some of the reserves called from the pool of around 870 000 reserve soldiers. Using Stetson-Harrison method one could say that at least around 150 000 are in land combat units. The losses will be replenished from the pool of reserves in time of war and the excess will be used in the meantime as with the rest of the population to implement Finland`s concept of total defence that will use all private and public resources and assets in the country needed for defending Finland and its population.
Finland has ordered a new and capable anti-aircraft system called David`s sling to supplement existing systems. In AT sector, Finland has aquired also Spike SR and Spike ER missile systems to complement NLAW and older missile systems.
Sisu is studying the possibility to produce 155mm wheeled artillery to increase Finland`s shoot and scoot capability. Some Finnish units are currently field-testing the first production batch of new combat clothing system called NCU that all Nordic armies will use in near future. Sako is producing sniper rifles and assault rifle systems already for Sweden as Finland is yet to decide the final caliber for the assault rifle.
I'm here for the thumbnail, but the tanks are cool too. Nice stats! :)
Haha - thanks man!
Yeah .. beautiful women with guns .. love it
A very good summary of the norse forces. Now with all norse Nations in NATO we are now working as one army with a sentral command. Remember we have grown up together for 2000 years. We speak the same tung exept Finland. We intermarry, and we like eatchother. Greetings from Norway.
Thank you, stay tuned for the nordic air force and navy, likely coming live within a week or so. I just need to finish my research.
Nordic, not norse.
Finland is nordic but not norse.
Iceland us both nordic and norse.
With the US bullcrap making nato less of a certainty, the Nordics should focus on joining forces and being able to function as a union inside of nato. If nato were to fail we can plug and play our own solution.
I suggest you travel a bit and check out the countries in question before you throw your fools hearth at them. Finland is not a normal country. There is nothing normal there. There is practically no business relatationship with Finland, because they are freekin difficult to work with.
Sweden is constantly plotting how to take over the nordics. They have not given up the ambitions of Karl the 12. They would happily let others do the dirty work, just to bring a surprise to the table. Same in business.
The Danish does not at all recognise the other countries as worthy. Denmark is european and doesn't want to have anything to do with monkeys. If the other countries where burning, they would send firewood to hurry the process. I am not even sure if they would shrug. Danish is also the most argumentative of them all.
All of these countries sees norway as 1 of 200 other countries, why should they care at all.
And norway ... norway is just a mess. No plan, no ambition or leadership. Too much money, which is just burnt in piles. We have maybe 500 ok troops. What is the plan with that? Denmark and Sweden have taken turns to rule norway, and they didn't fight to keep it.
None of this can work together. The illusion of cooperation is because american generals come here and say "you go here and you go there, you do this and you do that". Thats it.
Yes, we like eachother here up North. And we trust eachother. Greetings from Finland
Very impressive❤
The reason why Denmark has zero large haubitzers is because the whole lot was handed over to Ukraine.
As a Finnish combat engineer sergeant. I'll lay my life down for the north.
welll done - An analysis of the operational area as well as the enemy and his possibilities and previous reconnaissance measures would be interesting - strategic importance of the Polar Sea as operations base
Finland is building 4 new very capable Pohjanmaa class corvettes. They all have VLS with 32 missiles. Air defence system Davids Sling is also bought from Israel. Together with 64 F35 and NASAMS batterys i think the Finnish air space is a very tough nut to crack.
It's sensible for non-Finnish nations to concetrate on air power, instead of artillery, as they share no land border with a "certain nation". They could contribute in the cost of using artillery by stocking barrels and ordinance though. Fighter jets are quick to relocate, unlike artillery, and can strike much farther. Finland and Sweden already operate their air forces in a similar decentralized manner.
Norway shares the border with a "certain nation" too.
certain nation or the drunken bear ?
Very interesting and informative! Keep up the excellent work👍
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You got a really impressive channel with wellproduced videos and if you just grind on you will have half a million subs in time. Thanks for a good channel 🙏
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@@MilitaryRated I was impressed how accurate u are. I know a bit our finnish army. Only mistake and its not even mistake is that if u add Finns 50-60years old u Finland has more than 1 100 000 trained soldiers. 50years old is pretty good shape. And officers in reserve now must take part of war if they are 61-65years old. Old number was 60years. Finland is buying a lot of stuff and they are not all public information. Also Finnish artillery is bigger. We have old stuff a lot. U can not see them anywhere. But i have seen these in year 1994. Huge underground weapon shelters. Even nukes can not destroy these shelters below the solid rock. Around 50meters deep or so. I have seen only wich are close to Helsinki.
@@harrikuusjarvi3795 Thank you, and yes, I've also seen some of the storage facilities when training NCOs in the Finnish army. :)
I think the format is good. Pictorial matching dialogue great. The printed stats all good. Great job and thanks
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Great reporting, thank you.
Totally agree with you on the K9. Absolutely bonkers to not go with the Swedish Archer system.
Norway was in the Archer program, this was a joint Swedish-Norwegian program, but Norway cancelled Archer back in 2013. The reason was a lack of progress, time overruns, unproven technology, we needed new artillery and couldn't wait.
K9 was selected by Norway, Finland, Estonia and Poland, some may argue that those nations do have a high degree of interest in having artillery system that works, as I recall it, there will be K9 production facilities in Poland, so maintenance should not be a major issue.
Incredible assessment 😊
Thank you, have a great Sunday!
Very nice video. Informative❤
Glad you liked it
Of all my swedish relatives the last 500 years that have died in battel all have died defending Finland.
We like to mock oneother but in battel we are brothers and sisters.
Defend Finland from the Danes.
How many finns have died in history to defend Sweden and taking part of stupid imperialistic wars back in the days? We have always been buffer zone against russia.
Ruotsi/Suomi kävi 1709 jopa Pultavassa saakka.
Sillä kertaa tuli turpaan.
Ettei vaan historia toistaisi itseään kun "Pultavan maan" kanssa tehtiin äskettäin 10 vuoden sopparikin?
Se että Suomi sai itsenäisyyden perustuu, yllätys, yllätys taas siihen että Suomi pääsi irti Ruåtsin vallan alta.Näin saamme puhua suomea😊 ja meän kieltä.
Snellman yhdessä aleksanterin kanssa loi Suomelle valtion-/kunnallishallinnon, oman rahan (mk, jonka sdPave&Sale 1998 poistivat), suomen kieli tasavertaiseksi ruåtsin kanssaja koulu (Uno Cygnaeus).
Oli ne Snellman ja Arvidson kovia poikia.
Yleinen ja yhtäläinen äänioikeus oli harvinaisuus sen ajan Euroopassa, askel demokratiaan joka nyt on murentumassa niin että jäljellä ollee kohta vain mainosarvo.
Euuu näyttää kaapanneen kapteenin ruorissa.
Yli 100-vuotinen autonomian aika oli yhtenämahdollistamassa irtaantumisennRuotsin vallan alta ja lopulta irrottautumisen Venäjästä.
Nyt Suomi on palaamassa "juurilleen", länsinaapurin "pikkusiskoksi".
Lähdemmekö yhdessä 2020-luvunPultavaan?
Ainakin hinku näyttää olevan kova.
Jää nähtäväksi.
@@oivapasma9052 Ryssää turpaan niin että tukka lähtee päästä perkele.
You should defend your own country now its invaded by muslims
Nice factual feature, well done.❤👍🤟
Glad you like it!
Such a beautiful and powerful picture at the start.
Excellent video. Kudos. :)
Many thanks!
Nice video!
Great video.
As a Finn good analysis, Denmark need to step up they feel safe in the middle of Europe. We have the manpower and motivation to stop an invasion but we need the tools. Those with no border to an treat should still invest in order to send it to the countries in need.
As all other western countries Denmark are right now heavily investing in new weapons, and don’t forget that we have been giving a lot of our weapons to Ukraine to be fair!!!
that´s a bit stupid isn´t it? Denmark's mainland only borders Germany, why would they spend more of their budged on land forces when investing in their navy and air force is so much more useful? Denmark geographically is a choke point for Russia, if they can use their navy and air force to keep ships from leaving the Baltic sea then Russia looses a huge portion of exports which it heavily relies on. it´s navy can also much more effectively support the Baltic states and other allies by the Baltic sea
I agree we have been slacking for the last 30 years. But rest assured. We are spending the 2% of GDP for our military now, and another 2% for Ukrainian aid at the moment. We are finally spending the right amount on material.
@eskildscott7841 Agreed. Denmark's strategic position means that they both control the exit of the Baltic Sea but are also in a position to move forces North along the coast of Norway, if the Baltic Sea is not a safe route to transport personnel, equipment and supplies to Finland and the Baltic states. Since there are no direct land threats to Denmark, maybe 2 brigades of land forces would be the maximum to invest in. 1 to be part of a Nordic Division and 1 as a strategic, amphibious reserve.
@@Zajuts149 our first brigade just ordered 115 extra CV90, 7 Leopards plus mortar and air defense. This gives 1st and 2nd brigade a total of 159 CV90 and 57 Leopards. This seems to be a change in doctrine. We used to run a one to one ratio. But seeing how much better IFV's are doing in Ukraine compared to MBT's. Especially the CV90. It's a no brainer to focus IFV's.
Great!!!
Great video thank you.
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Nice work on the thumbnail. Would be very interested to see yr thumb when you get tt Sea Forces of the Netherlands (a.k.a. Dutch Sirens) 😂 Cheers from Amsterdam!
I'll get to the Dutch at some point, I'm sure it'll be interesting ;)
It•s so nice to see them playing well together .
the power of blue eyes
eye color have nothing to do with it, will has everything to do with ferocity in fighting.
Liked and subbed.
Please cover the CAT exercises in Latvia. Nordic counties are involved. "'CAT 24' tank trials under way in Latvia"
Maybe after you have done all the videos about nordic countries. Maybe you can do the same for the baltics?
That is definitely the plan, stay posted! 😊
You had me at the start screen.... ;)
Love the thumbnail 😎
nice power from finland
Yeah, out of the bunch Finland quite clearly has the strongest army. It'll be different when we get to the navy and airforces.
@@MilitaryRatedFinland has very decent air force too and so is navy. Sea areas which Finland has to defend are full of bigger and smaller islands and shallow waters and rocks right below surface in nasty way. Finnish naval forces have been planned that in mind. Also fighter jets have been bought and equipped with similar principles. All branches are planned to work together as one well oiled "machine". I don't think that you have deeper information about these things and you look just statistics in this. All equipment, no matter where it is bought will be modified in needed way to work in Finnish environment and weather conditions and nothing major is bought without proper testing.
@@FBugle I agree that the air force will be very powerful once the F35's arrive. The Hornets are decent, and will likely act as a good backup for the F35s, but they're 70-80's tech. Once Finland adapts the F35 the nordics air force will be lethal without you even seeing them on radar, it will be like having a wing of the US air force pounding down on you. Thank you for your comment, always looking to learn!
@@MilitaryRated Yes of course things develop, but F-18's are more like carriers of certain weaponry and also meant to keep Russian fighter jets in line. With certain modernizations they do their job also today with no problems. Finnish air force isn't weak at the moment, it simply gets a bit stronger with new fighters. This would be a long issue to discuss overall. But Finnish armed forces are built up in a bit different way than some others. Now Nato membership causes of course some tuning up. But Hornets do their job just fine at the moment for Finnish needs. Like in one movie.. "Maybe old, but not obsolete". And weapon systems installed are latest technilogy. I get your point, but I still disagree calling it weak point. But it needs modernization and it happens before age would be real problem.
@@FBugle Weak point might be the wrong term, let's call it 'weak point' compared to the rest of the Finnish army which is pretty much A+. Once F35s arrive, that'll be A+ instead of a solid C, and you'll have Norway, Sweden and Denmark an hour flying time away with really modern fleets too. The Nordics have never been more well protected.
I think Finland is such a powerhouse because (a) they're right on Russia's border and (b) Russia has a track record of aggression towards Finland. As for the presentation as a whole, I found it thorough and comprehensive.
Would be a much better video if talked about organization - equipment and manpower is only translated into combat power through units and organization - knowing number, types and rough organization of Brigades and battalions would tell us a LOT more about the actual strength.
Thanks for your feedback, and that is definitely a good idea. I’ll look into doing that in the future in a separate video as I think it might be a bit too nitty gritty for people who haven’t been in the armed forces? Have a great day!
it is an honour to have our nordic brothers and sisters on our side. They are so strong, especially our new member Finnland with its experience with russia ! We all NATO-members have the same target: Peace in europe, peace for our peoples, stability and secure of our wealth and greats democracies. Thanks to our nordic friends. Greetings from germany. ❤🤝
In WW2 Finland was thought to simply be a "speed bump" in the way of Soviet forces. Until they met the Finnish Ski troops? Terrain & ability to live & fight within it are critical and the Finnish Army does it very well!
Wrong. Not anymore
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The Swedish number for artillery is way of, the number shown is just the number of the Archer system they have, they have other system also like Haubits and Bofors, Sweden also have MSHORAD anti air system.
The numbers listed are operational, Sweden has loads of stuff in storage, but it would likely need some work to be operational, just like Denmark and Norway’s m109s. The SHORAD is included in the SAM-figure.
These numbers are current ones, but massive military spending's has been approved, atleast in Denmark and I would imagine the other Scnadinavian countries too, meaning these numbers will be much higher in the future. Conscriptions are also being increased twofold or more.
Denmark was about to get a lot of Caesar artillery systems, but donated all of them to Ukraine. We then ordered another batch and helped funding yet another 78 of these for Ukraine. Same goes for tanks and planes where we have massive orders in the works and keep donating and funding more for Ukraine.
It is very nice to see that Scnadinavian countries work so well together and counts as a major force or atleast will be.
I would love to see the countries specialize in areas that makes sense, like all 4 can supply planes, Denmark and Norway should focus on their fleets as well as highly trained rapid response teams of 5k personnel etc. military engineers and drone operators.
Sweden and Finland with the highest populations would be the main boots on the ground with professional artillery and tank crews etc.
With Gotland Sweden should and are expanding their airforce and navy.. think back to the 60´s when Sweden had one of the most powerfull airforce in the world with over 4000 aircrafts.
I could definitely see a Nordic Army Corps being formed, with Danish and Norwegian roundout brigades to be integrated into Swedish and Finnish divisions.
"Sweden and Finland with the highest populations"?
Sweden - pop. 10.540M
Denmark - pop. 5.940M
Finland - pop. 5.610M
Norway - pop. 5.550M
@@timoterava7108 You are right, I did not research that properly, I thought Sweden and Finland was higher, thats insane how Finland has 800.000 reservists, well maybe not so much considering their Muscovite neighbours.
Would be nice to see mentioned additions though and a combined Scandinavian defense stationed along the Finnish eastern border alongside air/sea control.
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Norway have always been weird with sharing information, they are expert on hiding the true information about everything, quite often, you have to know people and also remember small notes an anecdotes in News paper. For example Norway's reserve force wasn't listed, until an officer planning one of the big exercise that was hold in Norway a few years ago, when he was asked if he had enough men and he answered that he would just use some reserve soldiers. up until then there wasn't anywhere written that Norway had a reserve force!
- Norway's reserve numbers are weird. I have heard that it was 120000, where 40000 of them are used by the Home Guard.
- Norway also base it logistics on having deals with big commercial companies, for transport of cargo, thus save a lot of money on ships that would normally just be sitting around, when not used.
- Norway have in additional to the normal vehicle list as shown in the video. Marked cars that are owned by private people as "car's that the military can take in use", owner of those cars would get a message that their cars are marked as of interest for the military (Usually 4x4 and transporters), thus the military can expand it's "car" fleet massively on short notice.
- Norway do also have in the law, that if war, 1/4 of the population can be called in.
- Norway also store and maintain a large number of equipment for x-amount of US Marines, in Norway. For faster respons time for US/NATO.
If we look at each country individually they are badly equipped, but with tricks up their sleve. But when you combine them....
And oh, the Scandinavian/Nordic countries do exercise a lot together, even the emergency service in these countries can cross the borders without having to do a phone call
There is definitely a lot that is not listed on official registers, all in all the Nordics are very capable without much help, but it will always be good to have allies. Thank you for your contribution, and have a good weekend!
I don’t think that any country are interested sharing their informations which is pretty logical, why should they give them to the enemy?
And were also gonna spend 80 billion more over the next 4 years devided amongst all branshes, but moest for more new frigates and more air-defense, i think (wasent it ?)
But also increase service personel by 50% in the same periode.. (I saw the pressbriefing some weeks ago, but cant remember exatly..)
There are also extensive plans for boosting output of prodution on material and platforms we make our selfs.. (new produtionlines for Kongsberg ,Nammo, Raufoss and so on)
Only time will tell if they will get what they need to meet the challenges of a more unsertain future...
And then theres the promes of a fully intergrated Nordic Air-defense.. guess we could see more of that kind of cooperation in other branshes as well in the future.
@@denmark2680 those numbers they already know... an enemy usually know more about you, then you know about yourself. And for an army reviling it's numbers, is a deterrent it in it self
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About the 4:47 mark, yes, Finland's reserves are 800,000 and the regular army is about 200,000, for 1,000,000 total troops, or 18.18% of its total 2024 population of 5.5 million.
If the USA, with 330 million people had the same percentage in the military, we would have 59.99 million, and not about 2 million.
Bravo to Finland.
I just saw that 10th mountain, division is going to eastern Europe
10th mountain eat stingers and nlaws,
Finland more than 1000 howitzers/cannons
They have more than this, but remember that this is the land force. There are more in the navy.
wish we had the terrain for snowmobiles, atleast some part of the year.. also glad that we in scandinavia is seen as kinda 1 force, because i really belive we do stand together on that level, when and if it comes to that.. god this kinda made me very pround 😆
In the near future the Nordics air force will be one, it wouldn't be a huge leap to suggest that the other branches will soon commit to a similar deal.
Finland will stand by Denmark, always, as we consider our nordic family as brothers
@@MilitaryRated yeah now you mention it, ive head about the air force, so yeah other branches as u say will do the same, also because it makes sence for Denmark to move their forces east to finland/sweden/norway/baltic sea since its so much better strategic for defence
Can you link all the sources for these numbers?
Why Ivan ? Do your own research !
Note for the multitude of equipment and weapon system platforms. Finland and Sweden just recently joined NATO so it will take some time plan and phase existing equipment to deep reserve storage. And unify systems in Nordics. I'd give it 5 to 10 years.
Thanks for nice video, min norske bror!
No further improvement ideas, content and style was nice.
Take care.
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Thanks buddy! Still not Norwegian though. 😉
Great thumbnail. The girl in the middle has to be a model. The video was also exceptional.❤
Bravo to all the Nordic nations. I salute your serving members and preparedness. Ubique.
Music a bit loud but nice video.
Thanks for your feedback, I’ll adjust the volume in the next video 👍
I understand that this was about ground forces, and in addition the Nordic countries have a big fleet of up to date fighterjets with Saab Gripen and F35, and have establishment a good cooperation in exercising where they have teamed up to be a joint and powerful unit.
You'll find the videos about the navies and air forces in the description or on my channel. Have a great day. :)
Finland has kind of home guard force of 50 000 "readiness troops" (valmiusjoukot) who are ready to go in hours and have multiple excersices in a year, so they're almost professionals.
A new bill has just beed approved in Denmark. Adding 190 Billion Krones to our military budget.
Very impressive analysis. (Former US Marine and USAG.) Improvements? Just keep up with the truth and it is perfectly OK to editorialize.
Curious to hear what you think of our senile President.
Overall I give you a solid A.
Thanks brother, means a lot! To be honest I think both parties in the US could do with some fresh blood. Maybe someone with some real life experience? Hope you have a great weekend!
In this video, the number regarding the Home Guard in Sweden is seriously wrong, they claim that Sweden only has 22,000 men and this is not true at all. The number of home guards in Sweden in 2023 amounts to 50,000 home guards.
Then the number of conscripts in 2024 amounts to 8,000 soldiers.
Which will later be increased to 10,000 men.
Sweden is investing a lot now in Swedish defense and all the figures mentioned will be increased.
Sweden's army's own homepages quote 40 battalions and 21.200 men. I'm sure that's due to increase, but as of now it is 22.000. All the nordics countries are investing heavily, it'll be a terrifying force once they're also well coordinated between eachother. Thanks for your comment! :) Here's the source for your information: www.forsvarsmakten.se/en/about/organisation/home-guard/ "The Home Guard also has more than 25 Home Guard military bands. In total, the Home Guard units comprise approximately 21 000 men and women all over the country."
@@MilitaryRated dont forget that Sweden and all Nordic nations have a huge pool of males to pick from,generations, think for example in Sweden, like 80% of every male between the age of 95-30 has done militery training for 6-12 months, those dont show up in these numbers. apprently there also active registered hunters in sweden, about 300.000 of them. so a huge part of the male populus in sweden will be ready and trained on how to kill an invader if shit hits the fan. i bet its the same for Finland and perhaps Norway and Denmark
Yeah, it is definitely a thing, but those figures are hard to pinpoint, and while they would be capable reserves it would likely take 3-6 months to get those people ready. I said it as part of my analysis at the end. :) Have a great weekend!
@@MilitaryRated ofc its hard to pin point, they are not active service men, but im telling u, the 2nd or 3rd wave will be alot more in numbers. and official numbers bewteen the years of 1960s-1990ish are like 120.00 conscripts trained men, for Sweden, every year! and they have not been spent/used in any kind of war ;) so come, let the Ruski try ;)
Agreed, Sweden is a sleeping giant in that sense. I've been to the cold war bunkers and storage facilities in Sweden on my instructor tours in the 80-90's, and I've never seen so much stockpile of armaments and equipment. Kudos to Sweden. Hopefully they can get back there.
A lot of videos presenting the Nordic military lately. Restoring the Kalmar Union?
Damn straight.
Most of Nato is showing lack of resolve when it's needed. So the north of Europe is spending a lot on defense. There's even a combined Nordic air command now.
The Baltics and Poland is also on a crazy spending streak.
It's honestly wild. I never thought as a Dane that I would see my government spend more of its GDP on weapons than the US does. It's a wild thought, and I'm here for it.
@@XazerizX Good for you. Except the real threat now is the hybrid warfare and the enemy that is already behind the gates.
Terrain and R-factor are also important, in case you don't know what R-factor is, I will explain: If #Russians do something it, usually fails.
In the last two wars against #Finland, criminal #terrorist state #SovietUnion suffered 1.3 million total casualties of which 0.5 million were KIA/MIA, more than #US casualties in the #WW2, 9 x US casualties in the #vietnamwar.
Agreed, but an active deterrence is also effective, and Finland has one hell of a deterrent in its very capable army.
Norway was a part of the Archer system, if I remember correctly. I think we bailed out due to lack of mobility in terrain?
Yes, they were. Time has shown that it is very capable, so possibly not the best decision..
@@MilitaryRated Maybe? The terrain in Norway is very different from much of the terrain in Sweden, Finland and Ukraine. Different terrain have different needs. A terrain mobility test is easily done, so I would believe they had theire reasons to ditch the program.
I’d imagine that putting the archer on a belted chassis wouldn’t be the hardest in the world? I’m not an engineer though..
@@MilitaryRated Then you got a totally different beast. Special issue is an extremely deep money pit. I guess you have, or will check out the special helicopter we bought, many years ago. - To buy standard equipment give you a better defence, just because you get more of the stuff, and not at least, at the right time...
I think that if Norway wanted to they could inject enough cash into Kongsberg and Nammo to develop their defence industry to the point of Sweden's industry. Money spent internally rather than in South Korea or whatnot is positive for Norway. They've got the skills for it, they just need the investment. Even if you just got the archer for the Southern battalions you'd still have interoperability with Sweden's defence.
Pole here. I hope that our armed forces will cooperate closely with the armed forces of the Nordic and Baltic states. Let's add Czechs, Slovaks, Hungarians and Romanians. It'll be good.
All of the Central European nations know what the Russian friendship means
Poland already has the most impressive military in Europe, so I’m sure everyone will be very happy to work with you. I’ll get to videos on Poland eventually, stay tuned!
1:22 Fun fact: If you live in Finland and you own a less than 6 years old 4x4 vehicle, the government has that on a list and if such vehicles are needed, they can take it.
This is very interesting. Good to know. Is there a command and control structure enabling the Nordic militaries to act in a coordinated fashion? Looking back over the history of “modern” warfare its clear that there have been many well designed and rigorously tested weapons systems that actual combat showed had hidden flaws that had to be addressed to make them effective. Modern Nordic weaponry may well be much more battle proven than I know of. Barring that what has been done, or can be done, to reveal and rectify such flaws, if they exist, in the Nordic systems?
If you're talking about the kit, then pretty much all the Nordic gear has seen action. NASAMS, Archer, CV90 and Strv122 in Ukraine, Sisu and their APC variants have been deployed to most of the foreign engagements of NATO\UN for years and years together with the CV90. The Ukrainians can't get enough of the Archer, it's one of the fastest and most accurate systems in the world. There might be some kinks to work out, but when it comes to technology the Nordics possesses some of the most intuitive companies in the world.
Thing is, all competitors for K9 Thunder were hideously expensive and didn't offer equal addition to capability for money. There probably will be more purchases of K9 in future (there is still unrealized 40+ option).
My biggest gripe is that we all should be flying the Saab Gripen. As it was mentioned in the video, logistics is everything, and in case of war, getting fresh supplies of planes from Sweden would be battle-changing. Also, the point of at least Norway's Air Force is stopping Russian nuclear bombers and to a certain extent Russian attack planes. For that you need quality's as an interceptor and a little bit of a dog-fighter. The Gripen is superior to the F-35 in those aspects.
I've served as a conscript in Norway and also the home guard - even though all countries are small in population, they are big (or long) in area (Except for Denmark) so having fresh supplies is paramount. Both Norway and Sweden are some of the biggest weapons producers in the world per capita, and we should use those capabilities to the max.
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I'm a military vet and I have learned that it is very important for these different militaries need to train together, to draw on different strength of each. As a partnership, with their histories they could be one of the worlds best militaries. Cross training than maybe adding in the American, British and Israelis special forces. World lookout!
By the sounds of it they also need to distribute their military production. Having everything built in one factory in Sweden makes it a prime military target. The K9 could also be made under rights in the Nordic countries. For example, Australia identified that if war broke out the supply lines between Europe and Australia would be broken so they make the Austeyr, the Australian-made Austrian Steyr. The Australians have made seven modifications to the original design as they learned how well it performed in Iraq and Afghanistan, and another eight optional extras. Australia then sells these to its allied governments in the Pacific.
There's also decent production capability in Norway (NAMMO+Kongsberg), and Sweden has a multitude of factories (Hägglunds, Bofors, Saab). But I agree, Denmark could also use its own production facilities - for something like Archer or CV90.
Firstly, there are now several of the Scandinavian countries that already have large orders for weapons out, and there are also several orders under delivery. Norway has ordered several NASAMS, Submarines, and is now returning to compulsory military service. The hope is that Norway and the other Scandinavian countries can build up a state-of-the-art military from scratch, with the equipment they already have. I myself hoped that Norway would go for both the Jaz Gripen and the F35. But so far it seems that Norway will bet on the F35. Drones and missile systems seem to be the most important combat units in the future, judging from what is happening in Ukraine, and now that Norway is returning to mandatory service, it is entirely possible to secure both good and safe users of drones and missile systems .
Agreed. I think the JAS39 and F35 compliment eachother really well. They serve different purposes. The nordics have the capability of making their own effective drones, so I think Saab+KDA+Hägglunds should get together and work on that, as well as the autonomous armoured vehicles they're already working on. The future will hopefully be better for the youth too when they can participate in the armed forces. 9\10 people that I spoke to in my life who did 1 year in the forces come out bragging about how it changed their skillset, dicipline and job opportunities in the future.
JAS39 didn't meet the Norwegian military/operational requirements, it was the same decision in Denmark and Finland. At the end of WW2, Stavka considered northern Norway to not be defend-able for Red Army against a strong opponent. Why? It's about logistics and lack of supply lines, it would be complete disaster to supply such a front line w/o air dominance.
There is a reason the Norwegian Brigade Nord is located in mountains around Tromsø, imagine to supply a front from east w/o air superiority. Ukraine is completely different, northern Norway-Sweden-Finland is a nightmare wrt logistic and warfare. F-35 is an expensive fighter, but was the best fighter for our needs, both short and long term, selecting same fighter as the USAF give confidence that future upgrades will be made and be state-of-art.
Finnish Home Guard is around 5 million 😄
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The country is 5,6 million. There is maybe 1,7 million(20-45) that is soldier age. Since we do not see any women do shit on the ukraine frontline, we cannot bet on them in Finland either. That leaves us with 900.000 men. Remove 15% of them because of disability and low iq, Then we have 765.000 men.
The last question: In order to "keep the light on", you cannot commit all of that to war. Maybe Finland can muster 500.000men total, but I have a hard time seeing that.
Ukraine HAD a population of 38 million, and they have run out of men with only 500.000 casualties(dead/injured). There is no more there.
@@frodej6640 No, Finland has approximately 900,000 reserve, which means all of them has received military training and do not have any disabilities. About maybe 1,100,000 in total have went through military training, are the right age, but like 200,000 aren't included in the reserve for disability, bad health and other reasons. In total there is maybe 1,400,000 military age men? I remember reading something like that. Also there is approximately the same amount of military age women. So that would be well over 2,500,000 military age people in total, but obviously women won't be drafted into war. Let me make it simple.
Reserve: 900,000
Military age men that have done military service: approximately 1,100,000
Military age men: around 1,400,000
Military age women: around 1,400,000
Finland has a wartime strenght of 280,000 which is taken from the reserve and will be the constant amount of people at the frontlines. They will be replaced and rotated by the remaining 620,000 people in the reserve. I also don't get why you have a hard time of thinking finland can muster 500,000 people, Finland ranks as one of the highest countries in willingess to defend against a superior enemy, we are also trained to fight a larger enemy. Not only that, we have prepared for over 80 years for an invasion by Russia, our road and rail infratructure is literally strategically built for it. Most of our terrain isn't suitable for tanks either, so they will have to travel on dangerous small roads with forest on both sides, perfect for ambushing. We have thick, thick forests that drones cannot see or fly through. The ground isn't flat like in eastern Ukraine either so grenade explosions won't be as effective. Oh yeah we also won the NATO sniper competition last year, so you can expect simo häyhä type of stuff happening. Oh and we also have bunkers to fit 80% of our population, that percentage will be over 100% when you don't count the people at war. Some of these bunkers can even withstand chemical and nuclear attacks. Oh and we also have one of the highest gun ownership rates in europe, top 10 in the world.
@@emil3458 This is the dumbest reply ever. Absolutely bonkers. Lala land.
@@frodej6640 Why is it a dumb reply? Why is it bonkers? You know it's quite clear that you don't want to accept that the finnish army is strong, why is that? Are you some type of bot? Like you have absolutely no counter arguments?
Somewhat truethful joke I saw about a picture of all Nordic Army commanders. Someone wrote:
One (finland) commands an srmy others a brigade.
Even though it is ”true” we don’t still undervalue our brothers.
We sent 30 000 antitank weapons to Ukraine together and a General major on TV said we haven't scratched the surface of our stockpile, in one of the countries.
Denmark should purchase more military equipment.
they dont have to
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I'm starting to understand Finnish motivation...
Now when Sweden and Finland finally came home to NATO we really should build strength by cooperation. We all know that the threat comes from the east...
Wrong. Sweden for example is already conquered by muslims
Scandinavia....... Vikings
Finland should make conscription mandatory for women too. But in case of war, both parents shouldnt be called in.
What about the other Nordic countries?
Everyone called in in case of war....
Sweden reinstated conscription in 2017, this year 109 966 will be called in to fill about 8000 slots.
@@butterflies655 Well im Finnish so i dont really have a opinion on what Norway, Sweden and Denmark should do. Expecially since they all dont even have conscription for men.
No - we shouldn't. There are enough men.
Denmark is very small so that's part of why they lack alot ... Norway lended / gave Ukraine alot of assistance in tools, weapons, and overall equipment
Some wrongs here about Norway. We dont`t have 90 MBT. We are procuring 54 new Leopard 2A8NO. But we are not keeping our older A4. Some of them are beeing rebuilt to the new bridglayer. I can go on with some of the others to, The M125, is called NM204F1. We do still have M109A3GNM on stock, we only donated the M109GN variant and so on.
I as a swede we all are brottets in the north and sweden who produce their own aircrafts artilleri wich is both top 5 in world