I went with the MLM2PRO last year and had zero issues with it and zero regrets. I think it is a great monitor. Before I had children, I got down to a +2 handicap. Now that I have 4 children, I don't have a lot of time to golf but want to make the most out of the time that I have. I work from home so I figured getting a launch monitor and hitting balls on my lunch hour, on my patio, would help my game and it has. Even though I still remember all my distances from when I was in my 20's and 30s, they aren't the same as now. Changing carry distance by 5-10 yards on a course can greatly affect your score. Carry distances on the MLM2PRO are spot on. Practicing 50, 60, 70, 80 yard wedge shots is with the MLM2PRO is better than doing it at a range in my opinion. Many might not like the $200 dollar yearly membership but it is a lot cheaper than the money I would spend on range balls working on the range.
Looking at the MEVO+ because i really want that face impact data, but also no subscription is nice. I don't need a ton of simulator courses, just handful is sufficient for me
I've had the Mevo+ since it was available, and then I added the pro. I only use it in the garage, and set up has become very easy, with some tape on the floor. I would also recommend this .. I have had zero issue with it.
Great info. I want to build a simulator in my garage and there are so many options. But I see that the Mevo + has no subscriptions. I like that. Question for you. Do you have any lefty golfer hit in your garage? Is it accurate for them too? I’m a lefty but most my buddy’s are righties and I want to be able to invite them over and play.
Seriously...these bait and switch sales tactics with the subscription stuff (bushnell, rhapsodo), etc are just not consumer friendly. If you need $4000 as a company to make your profit, charge 4k. If you need to keep generating revenue after that, put out better products every 2 years that are better than the last iteration and we will buy it and you can make your profit again. super lame and confusing. no one wants to think that hard.
Originally thought the same… a software lock (on the bushnell) seems greedy but after having the rapsodo and seeing the updates that they work on… I understand the subscription cost. Don’t agree with it but I know that it’s paying for software improvements over time. I would rather buy a launch monitor that gets constantly updated instead of having to buy a new one every 2 years. With the bushnell… its options. Lower hardware cost gets you in the door but you have higher subscription fees. Want it unlocked? Buy the GC3
Nice roundup. I had the launch pro and HATED the subscription, it felt like price-gouging to me. Based on your review(s), I bought the Mevo+ last year and never looked back and have been extremely satisfied with the data I get from the unit! Thanks, Sean!
So good to hear! Yeah the subscription is painful on that one. Great device, but I know its a dealbreaker for a lot of people. Glad you're digging the Mevo+! It's just a compelling package when you factor everything in.
the thought of having to pay a subscription to use a hardware feature on a product i have already paid for is just unacceptable. probably gonna go with an r10 just for this reason, even though i would LOVE to have (and am totally willing to pay ONCE for) the extra features of the MLM2PRO
Built a putting green outside in my backyard ,now i want an outside hitting net with a launch monitor nothing fancy . Need easy set up etc also will need a mat for hitting into the net.
Thanks for doing this, really insightful. I got my R10 at the tail end of the third bout of COVID, after being on the wait list for 8 months, BUT with a pretty cool discount. Anyway, I use it on the range, which gives pretty good data, though (as far as I know), there’s no feature that takes range balls into account. However, the best thing is taking it on course, during practice rounds. I’ve used for ball fitting (which ball fits my swing best), how far do I hit my clubs in changing temperatures e.g. it’s now 0• C (32• F)and how far does my 7 iron go with my gaming ball, compared to when it’s 10• C, or , 20• C, (50• F, and 84• F respectively). But, mostly I use it for wedge gapping, full swing GW, SW & LW; grip down GW,SW & LW; and 9 to 3 swing GW, SW and LW. That really gave me 9 different yardages under 100m (110 yards), which really got my handicap down from 21 to 13.2 as it is now. I do the wedge gapping about once a month with changing temperature and it really helps.
Question for the the group - I have an our door set up in my back yard. Nothing overly fancy, just hitting into your stand 10x7 golf net. My Question - which one of these is going to show me the flight of my ball on an ipad? Or do they all do that? If so, which one does it the best? Thanks!!!
Which can I use for golf simulator...watching in case I missed something. Something for my garage and I can play courses "cheaply" with my son/wife/fam. Like can we do a 4some?
Sean, thank you for your content! Best anywhere. I am thinking of buying the MLM2PRO, but also am intrigued by the mevo. Which is best for just outdoors on range/course for practice, numbers and most accurate? Thank You
The Rapsodo is going to be better across the board. But it's also nearly double the price and has a $200/year subscription. So if it;s in the budget, I'd absolutely go with that. Sicne you wont be using the RPT balls on the range, you wont get some of the benefit of better spin readings, but even without, I'd trust the spin a bit more on the Rapsodo vs Mevo simply due to a new doppler system and the high speed camera.
Great information. Been eyeing a LM for some time, but plan on taking it to my club and range. The FS Mevo + is what I want, but the setup has kept me from purchasing it. I am hopeful FS releases a new unit that is quicker to setup (self leveling).
As far as I know there isn't a major hardware update coming to the Mevo+ in the near future. I could be wrong, but I wouldnt necessarily wait for that if its what is keeping you on the fence. And honestly, I know I talk about the setup issues of the Mevo Plus a lot as a major downside, but its really not that bad. Especially once you know what to do and you have a flat teeing area at the range.
Great video and very insightful! For my use case - I’m thinking of just outdoor range use and occasionally on the course. Mainly looking for distance, speed, and offline data (I understand spin data is not the most reliable here) and wondering how good the R10 will be with those 3 main metrics? Appreciate the help!
For those ueses, I think the R10 will be great! I just wouldnt expect to actually use it on the course, as that's not really what it's designed to do. If that was something you really wanted, you might take a look at the Garmin G80. Its a GPS/Launch Monitor hybrid. Certainly wont be as accurate at the R10, but provides decent data for what it is.
Can you do a wave vs flight scope review comparing just those 2? Those seem like the 2 best but the putt feature on the wave seems amazing but the club face impact on the flight scope seems like a necessity.
Always great reviews! Question. I’ve owned the Mevo, Mevo+, Garmin, SkyTrak, and now have the SC4…all have their plusses and minuses as you mentioned. As my needs and location have changed, I’ve used different ones (move a lot with the military). One thing I really loved about the Mevo+ (other than it being the best LM of all the ones I’ve owned), is that you could upload more than one club of a single type…e.g., I have 3 sets of irons (Miura KM700s, Titleist T150s, and Mizuno MP223/245). I like to be able to compare across them. Most of the LMs don’t let you input more than one club of a type. So, long way of asking, of the under $1,000 monitors, do any allow you to input multiple versions of the same club? Can’t recall if mevo or the Garmin does; I owned those a long time ago…I don’t want to spend a ton of money as I don’t really want it for simulator, or all the other bells and whistles I had with the Mevo+…basically, ball speed, club speed (a plus), carry, spin, launch angle…and a good way to view the data.
This is a great question Pete, and I'd have to go back and do some testing to see if you're able to. That said, for this type of thing I think the Mevo+ is definitely the way to go. A bit more expensive, but their software can function like a full professional device in ways none of the sub-$1k products can.
Having owned it it is exceptional. However I no longer have my home set up, so is be hiring range balls with it. Hard to pay 2k for a device that is limited by the crappy range balls. I did some checking and it seems the mevo can do multiple clubs, but won’t provide as much data. While it doesn’t solve the crappy range ball issue, it’ll still give relative data.
Really appreciate all the reviews you've done, been researching getting a launch monitor for a mini golf sim/range in my backyard. Going with the mevo+ mainly for the accuracy as well as the no subscription fees. Ordered the 2023 model used on ebay for just over a thousand.
I had both -R10 and MLM2-and the camera quality of the MLM2 is outstanding. Plus it uses the built in camera freeing up your cell phone for a face on view as well. The Garmin requires you to setup your phone for video. I sold the Garmin kept the Rapsodo mainly to use indoor simulator. And bought the Full Swing for outdoor range club fitting.
Thanks for you comment … I was leaning towards the Rapsodo already and your comment/advice reaffirms my gut feeling. Thanks again and keep it in the fairways !!!
@carolinagolfer im considering buying the rapsodo mlm2 pro. Does it have club path/angle data?? Also you mentioned you are using as a simulator. Is there a annual subscription fee you are paying to get a simulator of courses on an ipad/monitor? Or is it included with the price of the launch monitor itself?
@@connorjamerson Hey…it does not have club path info as of yet. They have hinted it might be to come but no definite As for simulator I bought the e6 package last year. I honestly can’t recall how much it was. Maybe $300? I’m mkt sure honestly if the Rapsodo now comes with any pre loaded courses. I haven’t had the time yet this winter to set it up in the temp indoor space I used last year. Sorry I don’t have more info.
Rasodo you have buy price and a lock in 200$ per year to make it work. So if you are spending nearly 2k over 5 years I have to think that the mevo+ would be a smarter choice?
Slytrak+ cons pause and small hitting area, mevo+ space, Uneekor eyemini at $1000 off (recently) plus all club data included, range software is free. Obviously it would be great if their sim software was better but as you said subscription fee for 2nd party is low and given the sizable foreign consumer base (income) and recent corporate relocation to the US (growth) I’d guess they’ll be looking to improve to the gold standard pretty quickly. And you can integrate a weight transfer mat and swing cameras for very reasonable costs at any time. Or fully unlock at the original rate at any time. BLP accuracy and price with no necessary fees and plenty of options with no penalties for the future. If I had the space I’d have gone mevo+ but I feel like some of the Uneekor value us getting overlooked here.
Ok here is my dilemma .. I live in an apartment so no simulator for me and I’m torn between the Garmin and the Rapsodo. Which one has the best features as far as capturing videos or my swing that I can see instantly while I’m at the driving range ? That way I can see what I’m doing wrong instantly
Great review. I currently only have an iPad. Will I be able to run E6 on an iPad for this mevo Ltd edition, and then when my gaming PC is set up for my golf room run E6 on that? Or does the license only allow it on one? Thanks
What about best monitor for someone that needs help on course tracking their ball? I have macular degeneration so once I hit the ball I have no idea where it goes. Buddy helps me as best he can, but I'd love to find an accurate monitor that I can see ball tracer so I know where ball went. I've read that most of them under $1,000 won't track side spin which could be a problem. Any advice for someone needing visual helper on the course?
Great video - Thanks so much for the GREAT insights. This information is very helpful. Quick question, I am considering the ES Tour Plus 2.0 launch Monitor/Simulator. Do you have any insights or thoughts on this unit?
Honestly, I haven't used it and have heard very little about it. I couldn't tell you why, but at least in terms of my visibility, I've heard less and less about ES products over the last couple of years. Not sure if there's a reason for that, but they haven't been on my radar nearly as much as they used to be - and I dont get asked about them often. So I haven't tried to get any units for review. Take all that for what it's worth though, perhaps I'm just wildly out of touch ha
I don’t think this is the right forum for this question, but with used Skytraks coming down in price to the neighborhood of $1k or less, how does the Rapsodo mlm2pro stack up against it? Is the ST better all around? Is it so close it becomes personal preference? I hadn’t considered an original skytrak until I saw the prices being comparable to the Rapsodo. Thanks. Love the reviews.
Please correct me if I’m wrong but hard to find THE device under $500 that has all the data for hitting balls in the driving range? Seems like spin rate isn’t in most devices, then most don’t have lateral or data is a bit inaccurate. Or is there one that does all that that I missed…? 😊 Thanks for your feedback
Yeah trying to find all of that under $500 is a challenge. The SC4 gets pretty close, as does the Garmin R10 when on sale. And at that price, it's best to use the numbers from any of those devices as "ish". Most of the metrics will be in the ball park. They'll be close-ish. But wont be dead on. But spin being a specific one that I wouldn't put too much stock into at that price range, close enough, but not dead on.
I have the R10, for almost 2 years now, and I really like it. It’s really good on distance for me, not so much on shot shape as I would like. You really have to have it at the same height as what you’re hitting from, I.e. grass, or the mat. On course I use a laminated A4 to place it on, so it’s not tilted. Take note, spin numbers, especially with wedges and driver are a bit all over the place. Add to that the range balls, and you can’t really trust spin numbers at all. I often find it reads or calculates my drives with 3500-5000 rpm, or it can’t read them and estimates 1000rpm; whereas wen I use it on course it usually reads 2500-3000.
Sean, I’ve been struggling with my new Mevo+ (no pro pkg) setup for a while. So much so that I’m thinking of returning it. Most notably is the side spin data is wildly exaggerated and long club distances are off as much as 10% indoor vs. outdoor. FlightScope has been very responsive (although a little annoying to connect since they’re in South Africa) but we can’t seem to dial this thing in. I’m beginning to wonder if I should return it and look elsewhere. The MLM2 Pro catches my eye as a similar portable item but is it susceptible to the same issues? Does Mevo’s Pro package improve the accuracy or just unlock the D-plane data?
Havent used it, but its basically just an SC4 with different software. Accuracy will be ok, not great. But considerign the worst part of the SC4 is the app, it may be a solid option to try.
I was hoping for garmin to launch a new camera based unit that would be unlocked. I guess it didn't happen at the pga show. Mevo+ seems the best for me with an unlocked unit and no fees. I live in a cold climate, and the downside is there is interference with heaters of fans, which is why i was thinking camera, but all camera units have the subscription fee. Hard to pull the trigger.
Have you tried the ExPutt home putting simulator? I am seriously looking into purchasing this as an addition to my launch monitor. I would love your thoughts especially compared to the golf zone wave. I just purchased the mevo since I am currently tucking money aside for the mevo plus unless your review says different. Keep up the great job
@@breakingeighty thanks for the update and I will be looking forward to seeing your review! Again keep up the great job your reviews have truly been helpful
Good morning, I have question..I am Looking for a launch monitior for carpet range outdoor use, that dont require special balls or stickers on the clubs. So everybody can bring their own clubs... Thinking Golfzone wave is the cheapest and next one the new apogee.. Startrak say it doesnt need but sticker or special balls.. But I am not sure, can you recomend me one you think it work.
Honestly if you want the most accurate club data, then most devices in the "prosumer" range will benefit from using the stickers. But I'd consider the Mevo Plus for this. If you get pro package, you get solid club data without having to have the stickers. Using them on that device primarily helps with more accurate spin numbers.
They do not. The only other one I've tested that has it is the Uneekor Eye Mini. It's certainly a cool feature, especially at Rapsodos price point. But the video itself aside from being cool, hasn't provided me much tangible value. Where that high speed camera does help though is with the more accurate spin numbers you get if using RPT balls.
It can be used with a net, but to your point, yeah it kind of depends on how big the net is and where you're using it. It will still work with less than 8 feet, but the results won't be as accurate.
@@breakingeighty Sounds good. Im wanting something to catch my swing path, as thats my main focus. Eventually id like to use it for a simulator too when I have more room. I think this would work for me.
Almost all of these will provide that! I'd consider the Rapsodo MLM2Pro as a less expensive option, and the Mevo Plus if you're willing to spend a bit more for more accuracy/data.
I agree. We need to stop buying these subscription based units. Change more up front and leave it unlocked. Like the gc 2 from years ago. Solid unit and unlocked that is just as good as units from today.
So after watching your video to me it seems for most who are unsure re cost to value to usage is buy the garmin first if you find your using it a lot and want more then sell the garmin or keep it as a backup, and buy the flights open whichever version you prefer. The subscription options for a home or individualgolfereven for a couple are just stupid these companies need to realise they are not selling to pros or to businesses amd ditch the subscription maybe change it to a base model as a start package then you can buy the additional features as you need the so for example courses you can buy individually or in bundles. Maybe have these add ons linked to your email so if you play a few rounds maybe the kickback for the course is a small discount on a day's or rounds green fee, this will hopefully give an insensitive for courses to want to be added.
Eh I disagree. It's $699 and you get your first year of subscription free. Then $199 after that. So for 2 years of use you're still under $1k - I think that qualifies.
Love the video you explained everything really well !! so well that i can’t decide lol my budget is very low under 1,000 but the eye mini looks really good i need something to practice outside i dont really care much about the app i need a screen to tell me how far im hitting
I went with the MLM2PRO last year and had zero issues with it and zero regrets. I think it is a great monitor. Before I had children, I got down to a +2 handicap. Now that I have 4 children, I don't have a lot of time to golf but want to make the most out of the time that I have. I work from home so I figured getting a launch monitor and hitting balls on my lunch hour, on my patio, would help my game and it has. Even though I still remember all my distances from when I was in my 20's and 30s, they aren't the same as now. Changing carry distance by 5-10 yards on a course can greatly affect your score. Carry distances on the MLM2PRO are spot on. Practicing 50, 60, 70, 80 yard wedge shots is with the MLM2PRO is better than doing it at a range in my opinion. Many might not like the $200 dollar yearly membership but it is a lot cheaper than the money I would spend on range balls working on the range.
Looking at the MEVO+ because i really want that face impact data, but also no subscription is nice. I don't need a ton of simulator courses, just handful is sufficient for me
I've had the Mevo+ since it was available, and then I added the pro. I only use it in the garage, and set up has become very easy, with some tape on the floor. I would also recommend this .. I have had zero issue with it.
Great info. I want to build a simulator in my garage and there are so many options. But I see that the Mevo + has no subscriptions. I like that. Question for you. Do you have any lefty golfer hit in your garage? Is it accurate for them too? I’m a lefty but most my buddy’s are righties and I want to be able to invite them over and play.
Seriously...these bait and switch sales tactics with the subscription stuff (bushnell, rhapsodo), etc are just not consumer friendly. If you need $4000 as a company to make your profit, charge 4k. If you need to keep generating revenue after that, put out better products every 2 years that are better than the last iteration and we will buy it and you can make your profit again. super lame and confusing. no one wants to think that hard.
Originally thought the same… a software lock (on the bushnell) seems greedy but after having the rapsodo and seeing the updates that they work on… I understand the subscription cost. Don’t agree with it but I know that it’s paying for software improvements over time. I would rather buy a launch monitor that gets constantly updated instead of having to buy a new one every 2 years.
With the bushnell… its options. Lower hardware cost gets you in the door but you have higher subscription fees.
Want it unlocked? Buy the GC3
@@and16942 fair point!!
They done got me with the BLP. I’m gonna get rid of it in a year or so
By the time you add the subscription to get those features on the Rapsodo, it’s NOT under $1000!
@pahhaw4251 yes it is for the first 3 years
Nice roundup. I had the launch pro and HATED the subscription, it felt like price-gouging to me. Based on your review(s), I bought the Mevo+ last year and never looked back and have been extremely satisfied with the data I get from the unit! Thanks, Sean!
So good to hear! Yeah the subscription is painful on that one. Great device, but I know its a dealbreaker for a lot of people. Glad you're digging the Mevo+! It's just a compelling package when you factor everything in.
the thought of having to pay a subscription to use a hardware feature on a product i have already paid for is just unacceptable. probably gonna go with an r10 just for this reason, even though i would LOVE to have (and am totally willing to pay ONCE for) the extra features of the MLM2PRO
Built a putting green outside in my backyard ,now i want an outside hitting net with a launch monitor nothing fancy . Need easy set up etc also will need a mat for hitting into the net.
Thanks for doing this, really insightful.
I got my R10 at the tail end of the third bout of COVID, after being on the wait list for 8 months, BUT with a pretty cool discount.
Anyway, I use it on the range, which gives pretty good data, though (as far as I know), there’s no feature that takes range balls into account.
However, the best thing is taking it on course, during practice rounds. I’ve used for ball fitting (which ball fits my swing best), how far do I hit my clubs in changing temperatures e.g. it’s now 0• C (32• F)and how far does my 7 iron go with my gaming ball, compared to when it’s 10• C, or , 20• C, (50• F, and 84• F respectively). But, mostly I use it for wedge gapping, full swing GW, SW & LW; grip down GW,SW & LW; and 9 to 3 swing GW, SW and LW. That really gave me 9 different yardages under 100m (110 yards), which really got my handicap down from 21 to 13.2 as it is now. I do the wedge gapping about once a month with changing temperature and it really helps.
Question for the the group - I have an our door set up in my back yard. Nothing overly fancy, just hitting into your stand 10x7 golf net. My Question - which one of these is going to show me the flight of my ball on an ipad? Or do they all do that? If so, which one does it the best? Thanks!!!
Which can I use for golf simulator...watching in case I missed something. Something for my garage and I can play courses "cheaply" with my son/wife/fam. Like can we do a 4some?
I’ve been waiting for this list! Thanks man!
Let me know if I can answer any questions!
I've got my 9x12 enclosure and Mevo Plus ready to set up in my garage. Just need to clean the garage out and organize first.
Thanks... I've been using. My rapsodo for 6 months... But have been following these videos of yours... Great material
Appreciate it! Did you get the MLM or MLM2Pro?
Mlm2 pro combined with exputt... Liking that combination so far... But sooo Temped by the ST+
Sean, thank you for your content! Best anywhere. I am thinking of buying the MLM2PRO, but also am intrigued by the mevo. Which is best for just outdoors on range/course for practice, numbers and most accurate? Thank You
The Rapsodo is going to be better across the board. But it's also nearly double the price and has a $200/year subscription. So if it;s in the budget, I'd absolutely go with that. Sicne you wont be using the RPT balls on the range, you wont get some of the benefit of better spin readings, but even without, I'd trust the spin a bit more on the Rapsodo vs Mevo simply due to a new doppler system and the high speed camera.
Great information. Been eyeing a LM for some time, but plan on taking it to my club and range. The FS Mevo + is what I want, but the setup has kept me from purchasing it. I am hopeful FS releases a new unit that is quicker to setup (self leveling).
As far as I know there isn't a major hardware update coming to the Mevo+ in the near future. I could be wrong, but I wouldnt necessarily wait for that if its what is keeping you on the fence. And honestly, I know I talk about the setup issues of the Mevo Plus a lot as a major downside, but its really not that bad. Especially once you know what to do and you have a flat teeing area at the range.
Great video and very insightful! For my use case - I’m thinking of just outdoor range use and occasionally on the course. Mainly looking for distance, speed, and offline data (I understand spin data is not the most reliable here) and wondering how good the R10 will be with those 3 main metrics? Appreciate the help!
For those ueses, I think the R10 will be great! I just wouldnt expect to actually use it on the course, as that's not really what it's designed to do. If that was something you really wanted, you might take a look at the Garmin G80. Its a GPS/Launch Monitor hybrid. Certainly wont be as accurate at the R10, but provides decent data for what it is.
Can you do a wave vs flight scope review comparing just those 2? Those seem like the 2 best but the putt feature on the wave seems amazing but the club face impact on the flight scope seems like a necessity.
Always great reviews! Question. I’ve owned the Mevo, Mevo+, Garmin, SkyTrak, and now have the SC4…all have their plusses and minuses as you mentioned. As my needs and location have changed, I’ve used different ones (move a lot with the military). One thing I really loved about the Mevo+ (other than it being the best LM of all the ones I’ve owned), is that you could upload more than one club of a single type…e.g., I have 3 sets of irons (Miura KM700s, Titleist T150s, and Mizuno MP223/245). I like to be able to compare across them. Most of the LMs don’t let you input more than one club of a type. So, long way of asking, of the under $1,000 monitors, do any allow you to input multiple versions of the same club? Can’t recall if mevo or the Garmin does; I owned those a long time ago…I don’t want to spend a ton of money as I don’t really want it for simulator, or all the other bells and whistles I had with the Mevo+…basically, ball speed, club speed (a plus), carry, spin, launch angle…and a good way to view the data.
This is a great question Pete, and I'd have to go back and do some testing to see if you're able to. That said, for this type of thing I think the Mevo+ is definitely the way to go. A bit more expensive, but their software can function like a full professional device in ways none of the sub-$1k products can.
Having owned it it is exceptional. However I no longer have my home set up, so is be hiring range balls with it. Hard to pay 2k for a device that is limited by the crappy range balls. I did some checking and it seems the mevo can do multiple clubs, but won’t provide as much data. While it doesn’t solve the crappy range ball issue, it’ll still give relative data.
Btw, on a business trip and bought some redvenly…game changers. I may not take them off all week.
Great job, very professional.
Thank you!
For someone just starting out, if you could get them as the same price point , would you recommend the Rapsodo MLM or the Flightscope?
Was leaning hard to the Skytrak+ because it sets adjacent to the ball. Got a big frown when you mentioned it doesn't work in grass.
Yeah if you plan to use on grass a lot, I'd probably go Launch Pro.
Excellent video.
Really appreciate all the reviews you've done, been researching getting a launch monitor for a mini golf sim/range in my backyard. Going with the mevo+ mainly for the accuracy as well as the no subscription fees. Ordered the 2023 model used on ebay for just over a thousand.
Love my Mevo+. I have the face impact and pro package. Ive been looking at the Full Swing Kit lately too. What are your thoughts there?
I haven't tested the FSK yet, but should be getting one shortly!
I had both -R10 and MLM2-and the camera quality of the MLM2 is outstanding. Plus it uses the built in camera freeing up your cell phone for a face on view as well.
The Garmin requires you to setup your phone for video.
I sold the Garmin kept the Rapsodo mainly to use indoor simulator. And bought the Full Swing for outdoor range club fitting.
Thanks for you comment … I was leaning towards the Rapsodo already and your comment/advice reaffirms my gut feeling. Thanks again and keep it in the fairways !!!
@carolinagolfer im considering buying the rapsodo mlm2 pro. Does it have club path/angle data??
Also you mentioned you are using as a simulator. Is there a annual subscription fee you are paying to get a simulator of courses on an ipad/monitor? Or is it included with the price of the launch monitor itself?
@@connorjamerson Hey…it does not have club path info as of yet. They have hinted it might be to come but no definite
As for simulator I bought the e6 package last year. I honestly can’t recall how much it was. Maybe $300?
I’m mkt sure honestly if the Rapsodo now comes with any pre loaded courses. I haven’t had the time yet this winter to set it up in the temp indoor space I used last year.
Sorry I don’t have more info.
Love the smash cam on the Mlm pro2. That will probably be enough for me!
Rasodo you have buy price and a lock in 200$ per year to make it work. So if you are spending nearly 2k over 5 years I have to think that the mevo+ would be a smarter choice?
I've seen some photos of a PRGR with bluetooth - any rumors on when that might land?
Thank you sir. Your video is great.
Slytrak+ cons pause and small hitting area, mevo+ space, Uneekor eyemini at $1000 off (recently) plus all club data included, range software is free. Obviously it would be great if their sim software was better but as you said subscription fee for 2nd party is low and given the sizable foreign consumer base (income) and recent corporate relocation to the US (growth) I’d guess they’ll be looking to improve to the gold standard pretty quickly. And you can integrate a weight transfer mat and swing cameras for very reasonable costs at any time. Or fully unlock at the original rate at any time. BLP accuracy and price with no necessary fees and plenty of options with no penalties for the future. If I had the space I’d have gone mevo+ but I feel like some of the Uneekor value us getting overlooked here.
What would you recommend for a mobile golf simulator business?
Ok here is my dilemma .. I live in an apartment so no simulator for me and I’m torn between the Garmin and the Rapsodo. Which one has the best features as far as capturing videos or my swing that I can see instantly while I’m at the driving range ? That way I can see what I’m doing wrong instantly
I didn’t tag you properly. But see my comments above. This is the question I was answering. Hope it helps
Yeah go with the Rapsodo for sure in this case.
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Great review. I currently only have an iPad. Will I be able to run E6 on an iPad for this mevo Ltd edition, and then when my gaming PC is set up for my golf room run E6 on that? Or does the license only allow it on one? Thanks
Yep, you'll be able to use it on both!
What about best monitor for someone that needs help on course tracking their ball? I have macular degeneration so once I hit the ball I have no idea where it goes. Buddy helps me as best he can, but I'd love to find an accurate monitor that I can see ball tracer so I know where ball went. I've read that most of them under $1,000 won't track side spin which could be a problem. Any advice for someone needing visual helper on the course?
Great review. Thank you.
Great video - Thanks so much for the GREAT insights. This information is very helpful. Quick question, I am considering the ES Tour Plus 2.0 launch Monitor/Simulator. Do you have any insights or thoughts on this unit?
Honestly, I haven't used it and have heard very little about it. I couldn't tell you why, but at least in terms of my visibility, I've heard less and less about ES products over the last couple of years. Not sure if there's a reason for that, but they haven't been on my radar nearly as much as they used to be - and I dont get asked about them often. So I haven't tried to get any units for review. Take all that for what it's worth though, perhaps I'm just wildly out of touch ha
Can you go over costs/subs for the eye mini? Wasn’t mentioned.
Watch this video, should cover most of it: th-cam.com/video/ZVEstpDThnw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=rbIlgSOcaSHs2iK0
Great job, Sean. Love the detail provided.
I don’t think this is the right forum for this question, but with used Skytraks coming down in price to the neighborhood of $1k or less, how does the Rapsodo mlm2pro stack up against it? Is the ST better all around? Is it so close it becomes personal preference? I hadn’t considered an original skytrak until I saw the prices being comparable to the Rapsodo. Thanks. Love the reviews.
Same curiosity!
What do you think about swing logic hybrid?
Please correct me if I’m wrong but hard to find THE device under $500 that has all the data for hitting balls in the driving range?
Seems like spin rate isn’t in most devices, then most don’t have lateral or data is a bit inaccurate.
Or is there one that does all that that I missed…? 😊
Thanks for your feedback
Yeah trying to find all of that under $500 is a challenge. The SC4 gets pretty close, as does the Garmin R10 when on sale. And at that price, it's best to use the numbers from any of those devices as "ish". Most of the metrics will be in the ball park. They'll be close-ish. But wont be dead on. But spin being a specific one that I wouldn't put too much stock into at that price range, close enough, but not dead on.
I have the R10, for almost 2 years now, and I really like it. It’s really good on distance for me, not so much on shot shape as I would like. You really have to have it at the same height as what you’re hitting from, I.e. grass, or the mat. On course I use a laminated A4 to place it on, so it’s not tilted.
Take note, spin numbers, especially with wedges and driver are a bit all over the place. Add to that the range balls, and you can’t really trust spin numbers at all. I often find it reads or calculates my drives with 3500-5000 rpm, or it can’t read them and estimates 1000rpm; whereas wen I use it on course it usually reads 2500-3000.
Will you be reviewing the Ballflight and Eye mini lite this year?
A bit more on the expensive side, do you have any thoughts or preferences between the new apogee and uneekor eye xo ?
Sean, I’ve been struggling with my new Mevo+ (no pro pkg) setup for a while. So much so that I’m thinking of returning it. Most notably is the side spin data is wildly exaggerated and long club distances are off as much as 10% indoor vs. outdoor. FlightScope has been very responsive (although a little annoying to connect since they’re in South Africa) but we can’t seem to dial this thing in. I’m beginning to wonder if I should return it and look elsewhere. The MLM2 Pro catches my eye as a similar portable item but is it susceptible to the same issues? Does Mevo’s Pro package improve the accuracy or just unlock the D-plane data?
Can you please review Earnest Sports tour simulator? Under $2000 and seems like a great product.
Hi there. Can you tell me if the SC4 will be able to work with Superspeed for clubhead workout?
Hi Sean,can you tell me if the putting issues has been resolved with the Skytrak + this is the only reason why I won't upgrade from the original ST.
Please do a video on how to edit your rounds with Arccos! It’s way confusing.
What are your thoughts on the orbit launch monitor?
Havent used it, but its basically just an SC4 with different software. Accuracy will be ok, not great. But considerign the worst part of the SC4 is the app, it may be a solid option to try.
I was hoping for garmin to launch a new camera based unit that would be unlocked. I guess it didn't happen at the pga show. Mevo+ seems the best for me with an unlocked unit and no fees. I live in a cold climate, and the downside is there is interference with heaters of fans, which is why i was thinking camera, but all camera units have the subscription fee. Hard to pull the trigger.
Do any of the cheap ones show swing path?
Have you tried the ExPutt home putting simulator? I am seriously looking into purchasing this as an addition to my launch monitor. I would love your thoughts especially compared to the golf zone wave. I just purchased the mevo since I am currently tucking money aside for the mevo plus unless your review says different. Keep up the great job
Unfortunately, I haven't. Hope to try it out sometime soon, along with Puttr - which is different, but also looks very cool.
@@breakingeighty thanks for the update and I will be looking forward to seeing your review! Again keep up the great job your reviews have truly been helpful
Whata the best for hitting into a net? Garmin or rhapsodo?(under 1000)
Eye mini. Since many of the measurements mandate stickers on the balls, doesn't that realistically make driving range use impractical?
With the Eye Mini the stickers go on your clubs, rather than the balls. So you can still get accurate club data when on the range.
You need to check your affiliate links on the launch monitor quiz. Some links seem broken, specifically, R10
Thanks for the heads up! Will go through and make sure everything is up to date!
Good morning, I have question..I am Looking for a launch monitior for carpet range outdoor use, that dont require special balls or stickers on the clubs. So everybody can bring their own clubs... Thinking Golfzone wave is the cheapest and next one the new apogee.. Startrak say it doesnt need but sticker or special balls.. But I am not sure, can you recomend me one you think it work.
Honestly if you want the most accurate club data, then most devices in the "prosumer" range will benefit from using the stickers. But I'd consider the Mevo Plus for this. If you get pro package, you get solid club data without having to have the stickers. Using them on that device primarily helps with more accurate spin numbers.
Rapsodo has the impact view video which is really cool - do garmin and GC3 have same feature ??
They do not. The only other one I've tested that has it is the Uneekor Eye Mini. It's certainly a cool feature, especially at Rapsodos price point. But the video itself aside from being cool, hasn't provided me much tangible value. Where that high speed camera does help though is with the more accurate spin numbers you get if using RPT balls.
Subscription models for Hardware Features is a hard pass.
Nice but I think you missed out on the under $ 500 mark...The Ernest Sports B1 is a great unit....
That's a solid point. I haven't tested any of the Ernest Sports units, but will try and get my hands on one to compare.
If you get awesome golf as a third part app with the MLM2 do you still need to pay for the MLM subscription?
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Great vid! You are the man!
Appreciate it!
whats the best under $1000 to work with my gaming PC for my simulator for a variety of golf sim games?
I'm actually not sure that there's any launch monitor under $1k that allows you to use a PC. At least none of the ones I've tested do.
@@breakingeighty I was able to pick up a used GC2 for $1600 Canadain.
The Bushnell subscription can be bought outright for $3500.
Can the Mevo plus be used with a net? You say 8 ft behind and 8 ft in front... if i put my net 8 feet in front i may hit over the net lol.
It can be used with a net, but to your point, yeah it kind of depends on how big the net is and where you're using it. It will still work with less than 8 feet, but the results won't be as accurate.
@@breakingeighty Sounds good. Im wanting something to catch my swing path, as thats my main focus. Eventually id like to use it for a simulator too when I have more room. I think this would work for me.
What about the full swing Launch Monitor?
Probably over 5k
Too bad the Bushnell Launch Pro is NOT available in Canada, and Geo-Locked to the US... It was on my buy list for the price, but that is not to be :(
I read the MEVO is not updating the app anymore?
They integrated the Mevo with the FS Golf app that the Mevo Plus uses, which is a much better app.
How long do you think the mevo+ takes to set up on the range?
2nd this question
Sir, I decided to get the R10. Would you know what app I need to download - Garmin Connect or Garmin Golf?
Thank you
Has anyone tried the vistrak systems?
Please answer this question! I just want flight and distant for....wait for it....outdoor net. Is there an option?
Almost all of these will provide that! I'd consider the Rapsodo MLM2Pro as a less expensive option, and the Mevo Plus if you're willing to spend a bit more for more accuracy/data.
The Mevo plus is not accurate at all lol. Especially on spin axis
No trackman, eye xo… ??
Subscriptions are a no go for me. R10 when I have the money.
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I hope that one day a Trackman won't cost more than my car...
Dont we all...you can often find used previous gen units for much less.
Bushnell LP by a mile, and it's not even close
No with the fees. Sure if you get only ball data one. It's a complete rip off
You must love looking at yourself....10% of this video is actually showing the products
Farming r10 is garbage, i only kept it for two days before returning it.
No to subscription. It’s not Netflix.
I agree. We need to stop buying these subscription based units. Change more up front and leave it unlocked. Like the gc 2 from years ago. Solid unit and unlocked that is just as good as units from today.
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So after watching your video to me it seems for most who are unsure re cost to value to usage is buy the garmin first if you find your using it a lot and want more then sell the garmin or keep it as a backup, and buy the flights open whichever version you prefer.
The subscription options for a home or individualgolfereven for a couple are just stupid these companies need to realise they are not selling to pros or to businesses amd ditch the subscription maybe change it to a base model as a start package then you can buy the additional features as you need the so for example courses you can buy individually or in bundles. Maybe have these add ons linked to your email so if you play a few rounds maybe the kickback for the course is a small discount on a day's or rounds green fee, this will hopefully give an insensitive for courses to want to be added.
No way the mlm can be in the under the $1000 area after you have to pay $199 a year to actually use the features.
Eh I disagree. It's $699 and you get your first year of subscription free. Then $199 after that. So for 2 years of use you're still under $1k - I think that qualifies.
@breakingeighty not really if you're gonna use it for some time. That pay wall bs from Rapesodo is ridiculous
Your backdrop is awesome. Is it a virtual forest backdrop or your actual window? Would love this for my work zoom calls. 😊
haha thats the window in my home office. The downside is the way I have it setup is opposite, so zoom calls just get the view of....my office ha.
Thanks for the video. Do you know which one is good for normal form ball?
Love the video you explained everything really well !! so well that i can’t decide lol my budget is very low under 1,000 but the eye mini looks really good i need something to practice outside i dont really care much about the app i need a screen to tell me how far im hitting
I think the swing caddie is going to be the winner rapsodo is more accurate but i dont wan to pay 200 a year and no screen to look at hard choices