The annoying noise turned out to be the hard top. I unbolted it, shifted it 1/8" on the tub, torque it back to spec at all the bolts, and the noise is gone.
I'm hoping that they will put the hellcat engine in the Gladiator soon thus torque will no longer be a issue. The bad thing is it will then be a 80k vehicle.
Howdy! I would like to thank you for your interesting video. I am new to the Jeep pickup and so far, 3 weeks ownership, I am pleased at what I have purchased. I can't wait to try out the four wheel because I know what the Camachee pick up was like in the 80's. I am very thankful for your input and heads up on this vehicle. It gives a guy like me a head start on fun and knowledgeable Jeep ownership. Thank you once again and please keep up the great work!!!
EATSLEEPDRIVE2002 try to find one. The lowest advertised price I can find in Alabama is $39k. If I could find one for under $33k with the auto trans I’d buy it tomorrow
Lots of problems with the Eco diesel on the Ram pickups and Grand Cherokees. You don't want that engine. The driver side mirror and poor seats are deal-breakers. The piss poor seats in the Tacoma are one of the reasons I didn't buy one. I test drove the Ford Ranger and it was ok but nothing special, not for the money they want for one of those. When they update the Ranger I'll check it out again. A big NO to anything from GM but I do like the look of the Colorado.
I was a huge gladiator fan before I even seen one. I followed all the pages and ads from several social media apps. When our local dealer got them in I was looking day one. I was so excited I overlooked some things. I drove it for a half hour and noticed what a cheap POS it was. I didn’t want to believe it. I came back the next day still ready to buy one. I was deciding between colors and started to really look how they was built. I was mad. I waited so long for them to finally show up and they turned out to be less than a wrangler in quality . I thought they was just like any other new wrangler with a truck bed. They are but the differences are so poorly done. It reminds me of Daewoo engineering and materials. WTF? I apologize for writing this but WTF Jeep?
Great video with some excellent call outs. I have to say though, I chuckled a bit that one of your complaints was not being able to see whats happening in the lane next to you about 5 minutes after saying that the black jeep had “all the safety things you dont need” which would include blind spot haha. Good looking truck, I actually like the mudflaps everyone hates! And AMEN on the lack of trailer brake.
I own a JLU. I owned a JKU. The price between my 2016 Rubicon almost completely loaded and my 2018 Rubicon almost completely loaded was 10K. The price of Wranglers is getting crazy expensive but as long as we are willing to pay the price they will keep on hiking the price. I dont see good service at the dealership either
Thanks for this quite informative video. I like to listen to your thoughts regarding the JT since you seem quite reasonable and unbiased. I plan on getting a JT next year when they launch in Germany, if, that is, they do not go totally mental with the pricetag. Will keep following your channel until then!
I have a Rubicon model and I think my biggest complaint is that there is no trailer brake controller! Other than that I'm loving mine. Trying to save money and do mods myself. Great truck overall though
Yes so they had it on there and pulled it. Last I heard they are saying late 2019 for availability... which seems crazy to me when they are pushing best in class towing so much.
The brake controller is a Curt Products Spectrum. Available now , easy install Also our JT is two days old and already it ate the front fender liners . I am angry because FCA is in denial that the problem exists. We en joy your channel and ordered your running boards even though we bought a Rubicon. My wife ( the boss ) is short and we just wanted a Ruby. Be well. Wayne
I was thinking the same. I have a TJ Wrangler and a Tundra. If you want a small truck get a Tacoma and be done with it. The Jeep is going up for sale soon. My Jeep only has 124K miles and it's a complete nightmare. Bad light switches, valve lifters, engine bearings, bad trans input shaft bearing. Good luck finding those kinds of problems on a Toyota with 125k miles.
Hopefully the Gladiator doesn't end up like the PT Cruiser. Released with so much hype and dealers were selling them for way more than the invoice/msrp because everyone had to have it. Years later turns out it was a piece of crap.
I have to say I appreciate your comments and your reviews. I'm learning from your nit-picky as you put it, please don't stop. I'm one of those guys who got the Gladiator, my first jeep and like you I love it, but I've seen your youtube review I've of been prepared with the info you sir put so Thank you
99.9% of the Gladiator owners would have been happier with a CJ and a Toyota Tacoma. When Jeep aggregated this albatross they made too many compromises and missed the whole point. You really can't use a Gladiator for hard core off-roading and it makes for a ridiculous truck. I appreciate your comments on this vehicle because it highlights the many issues that comes with anything that is NOT purpose built...
Can’t do serious off-reading? Have you seen any of the videos of people off-roaring in non-lifted Rubicons? Yes, they are longer but you can certainly off-road in them. Two inch left and 37s and you can go about anywhere.
The jeep is setup for dirt road driving only . Light duty . The dealership is looking for the weekend backroad driver who may pull a small trailer sometimes . Mostly to be used commuting back and forth to work .
Jeep execs and engineers should all gather in a room and watch this video of yours! Thank you so much for your video. Now I know what to look for with my next Jeep ! Great video!
FCA has an alert out for the noise. It is the seat belt bracket they are just tightening it up and greasing it. Take it back to the dealer and they will fix it. But it may be your steps you installed if the bolts became a little loose. Happened on my jk. Supply issues with the trailer brake controller is holding those up. I do wish they made the Easter eggs Jeep trucks instead of Willy’s but I suspect they will in the future, just trying to save a little production time and cost with the recycled jl parts. I had a chance to speak with the production line boss for JT in Toledo, and he said most of the jl overhang is to save on production time. It takes 45mins to assemble a wrangler and 2 hrs to assemble a gladiator. So most is a time saver because they wanted to keep production at the Toledo plant and have to work around some plant issues to do it. Also the dealers can’t order there own packages right now only costumers can. All they can say to FCA is we want a JT. And then they get what they get.
Hey I have a 2018 JL Sahara and have been thinking of trading in for a Gladiator. Your videos are very helpful. I wanted to let you know that in my Sahara Unlimited I don’t have any stamping on the inside handlebar and the plastic inside fenders appear to be the same as yours in the Gladiator.
I live in Saint Louis Missouri and I know 10 guys that have gladiators and have never heard any of the complaints that the author is making a fact they love the gladiator jeep
I think you gave a fair assessment of the vehicle. I said this before, FIAT should of really stepped up and offered the Gladiator in a trim level with the 5.7 Hemi. I'm willing to bet they wouldn't be able to keep those suckers on the lot. Americans love power.
@mk319mod0 I like both Tacos and Jeeps and I strongly considered the Gladiator (my requirement is 4x4 with a manual transmission) but I’m going with a Taco TRD Off-Road. Bang for the buck, it can’t be beat. I do love the Gladdy, specifically the removable roof. But the Taco is the better truck for everyday driving. The Gladdy is better off road but for everything else a truck needs to do it isn’t as well thought out as the Taco.
Nick J I bet it will return to its former glory in 10-20 years after they get tired of making junk. That said I love the idea of the gladiator if it was built better and came in extended cab or two door.
@Nick J Me too ,my 2000 xj can be fixed by a knucklehead like me. Lord help those that are smarter than me . without u tube and other forums I would be lost.
1- price 2- price 3-price Why do these trucks cost so much. I would have bought one at $20-25,000 for a mid size truck these companies pricing themselves out
You're paying for a exclusively, you're ultimately buying a lifestyle vehicle. You're buying a Jeep, and the first Jeep truck in about 3 decades, you want to buy a Jeep truck You're gonna pay a premium. If want it for cheaper wait a couple of years. And I agree you can to tow over 3000 lbs if you don't supply a trailer brake.
I’ve been looking at the gladiator but the option packaging pisses me off. No max tow package on the Overland trim. No proximity key option on the sport and sport s. Once you have that on a car, it’s hard to go back. Plus the push button start is stupid if you still have to take the key out to unlock the damn car!
Currently if you offer to pay invoice on a Gladiator you will probably be told to leave. Demand is too high at the moment. I went to two different Jeep dealerships near me a couple weeks ago and each only had 1 truck in stock. One of them had dealer installed accessories (lift, bigger tires, ect) and was marked up $20K. Apparently most of them are sold before they even hit the lot. At least near me in the NW Phoenix-metro area. I'm thinking I wont be seriously looking for one of these until next year. Hopefully by then the novelty of a new model wears off. And maybe by then we'll actually see more info about the diesel going in it.
Does getting the max tow package only come with the higher final gear ratio? I would imagine that driving down the highway unhitched, you’d lose some MPG because of that rear end... so getting the max tow package will affect your MPG and your cruising RPM, right?
The tail lights are poor design, but they did the same thing on the JKs. I was driving down a trail one in my JKU, and ran over a branch which was torqued up and took my tail light off. Ugh. Trailer break controller coming by end of year they say
I just did the price build on the site with all the safety stuff and max tow. Total price came out to $45,705. I would not purchase a Gladiator without the Max Tow.
I have to throw this for comments.They make a Snorkel for deeper stuff.What happens to all that 'lane assist'and other computer components when water is above the doorsills?
i hate what jeep has become ! i had a 93 limited 4.0 back in the day and that thing was well built it was hit twice and repairable both times and $21k brand new those days are gone !
Those taillights are what kept me from getting a Gladiator and buying a JL. The taillights look good on my JL but like you said, they should have integrated them into the bed for aesthetics
I have 2800 miles on my launch edition. All of the items mentioned are there, and are liveable; some are easily correctable. I'm sure many items will be addressed in future models. My Gladiator works well for me, because I replaced a JK Unlimited and a Sierra extended cab with one vehicle. I didn't want to wait and am glad to drive it daily, even with a few issues.
For the price (any wrangler for that matter) the seats are absolutely terrible. By far the most uncomfortable seats out there. We have a JL and any trip over 3hrs I just cant do it. Just kills my back. For 40k put some damn decent seats in.
Nope. Ordered it before I had seen or driven one. For the first 45 days, it was virtually impossible to see one on a lot because they sold as soon as they unloaded them from the delivery truck.
Wow... That's an absolutely stupid thing to do. Learn some patience and wait until you can get what you want. Ordering a truck you've never seen and know nothing about is absolutely stupid.
I love mine been watching your vids apparently my dealer thought of everything you hate had it over two months now love it will keep it probably will buy another when it’s payed for looked at half of comments only thing I have for them is their rite some ppl can’t afford them
Dealers order trucks like that because not everyone will use it in a way thats intended to do. Some will just drive to work, groceries and back home. So no need for a max tow.
I've always had wranglers all TJ's and 1 jk Chrysler just acknowledged death wobble is an issue in 2019. I've had that on all my wranglers at some point since 97 . Only reason they acknowledged it is because tins of new jeeps have the same issue sad thing is they blame it on poor service and lift kits and aftermarket parts .aftermarket parts better made than stock actually helped me fix those issues. They just sidestepped fixing that issue unless your jeep is bone stock
I'd like to know why they didn't include elockers? Been trying to get info on that, and can't get any price even on the elocker pod. Too new. Anyone know the number of splines for the Sport S axles shafts so I can figure which locker I need? 30 or 35 splines for a Dana 44? And the mirrors really bug me too. I have a rattle on my drivers sun visor.
I had a creaking noice like that in my drivers door,, all i did to fix it ,the rubber seal on the the body where the door seals all around was like dry, i armor all’d the whole seal a cpl of times to soften and make it more slippy and the noice went away , and maybe once a year i have to do that and it stays nice and quite.
That's why it's best to wait a year or so before getting a newly designed vehicle. It gives them time to work the bugs out and add the features everyone it s asking for.
Yup and the last year of a model (like the JK) would probably be the best time to grab a JK because most or all of the bugs during the years have been phased out. I grabbed a 2018 JKU last year :)
The Gladiator was never designed as a truck from the ground up tbh. I compared one to my 06 Dakota and while the Gladiator does have new features and better fuel economy and such, it doesn’t measure up to what the Dakota can do as a pickup, but again, the Gladiator is more a Wrangler with a short bed on the back.
It was designed from the ground up as a truck. There are certain things that can swap out, (doors, ect) however the grill is larger for air flow while towing, lots of differences. They just didn't take a standard jeep and bolt a bed frame to it.
@@commonsense3963 it’s been a while but to clarify I wasn’t taking about the frame design or any of the mechanical aspects. The features that are on the truck are geared more towards an off roader rather than a towing/hauling rig. It’s not a bad truck, just there are better choices if you need something to haul/tow.
@@vr4787 I agree with that, it can easily haul a small camper or trailer, if you want. If you are looking to haul a 5th wheel or a 30ft trailer then pick a full size truck.
Do you need the tail lights are out like that for your sensors that indicate if somebody is beside you they need to be out as far as your fender flares are
@@fergotti that's because at this point it's just about cost savings why would you make two different tail lights if they both do the same thing at the end of the day
Jeep probably didn’t want to design larger mirrors for the Gladiator knowing that people would just complain that mirrors stick out too much, like the tail lights. People would just complain that off road the mirrors stick out too far. If people are gonna complain they probably figured, “Fuck it,” and saved the money on designing new mirrors to use for something else that, not surprising, people would complain about.
I own a TJL with 124K miles and a Tundra. Take that thing back and get a Tacoma. My Jeep is going up for sale. Here's why; headlight control stalk went and drained the battery in the process, ignition switch actuator, a valve lifter sticks, crankshaft bearings shit the bed but the rod bearings had normal wear, bad trans input shaft bearing. And that's just been the past 25k miles. Good luck finding those kinds of problems on an Import with 125k miles. In the past 30K on the Tundra I've changed the brakes and oil. It has 98K on the clock.
Did you research the vehicle before buying it? Didn't you notice those."things you hate " before buying it. Seriously the rear lights? Am happy with my almost loaded rubicon glady
All gladiators have a hook up for the trailer brake controller under the dash directly under the steering wheel. It is the same as in the ram trucks. I ordered a redarc controller and ram hook ups and it installed easily and didn’t even have to flash the computer. I feel like I should do a TH-cam video but I am camera shy😂 face for radio! But works and looks great! I think Jeep always planned on offering the brake controller but their supplier couldn’t meet the dead line or specs. And I do wish they had a cool tow mirror something like the ram where they fold out. But they are probably coming just have to be patient. And I wish all colors where available when they released it for ordering. Had to get silver may third choice because I couldn’t wait! I think Jeep did rush this a little just to get it out there before the midsize truck market cools off. But it is a good start and I am sure they will only get better. After all the Jeep Wrangler is fca’s bread and butter along with the ram.
New to the whole Jeep thing myself. Never owned one, doing my research, have come across this video a couple of times. And others of course. You're not along on the "up to go down" issue. I see it as a matter of perception. When I am going through a menu, I think of it like it's written it on paper or displayed on a larger screen. #1 is at the top, #2 below that, #3 below that... Down in direction is up in number. Frankly, it's how I myself expect it to be. It's obvious this is a menu, why would it be arranged in any other way, you know? But forward to downshift... I'll give you that one. I think of a stickshift, where first is forward, second is rearward, but then third is forward from second... and this being an automatic that you have, really that doesn't make sense. Even on the 20 year old two door "sports" car I drive daily, first gear is all the way rearward. Glad you figured out the noise... I'd be annoyed by that too, and now I know what to look for (a soft-top LOL). I wonder if the JK/JL fender well inserts could translate to the JT. Are they so different they won't fit? Real men love cats. In fact I'm wearing that shirt right now. But what do I know? I want a stick-shift :D
My 2k18 JL Wrangler has nothing written on the passenger grab handle. The brake lights stick out because some models have the blindspot notification tech.
I dont understand why nobody ever thinks 'don't buy the first year of any new generation of vehicle' you'll have all sorts of fitment issues and quality control problems. The current gen 2019+ Ram had issues with the outside molding mixing chrome upscale and black WT window trims. Easy shit like that is avoidable but everyone 'has to have the newest thing's so I always laugh, you did it to yourself and spent WAY to much money to figure that shit out.
I noticed the same thing about the mirror after I test drove one at the dealer. Then I was reading about the mirrors online and one forum showed that you can move the entire mirror. Like the black plastic part. It said it was very stiff but it would move. Have you tried this?
Wonder if these will hold there value like the wranglers. I didnt like the way they looked but its growing on me. I've owned rams and jeeps. Cryhsler definitely makes sharp looking vehicles. But there reliability not to sure of. My I guess you dont buy a jeep for reliability
I needed a tow vehicle, wanted the Jeep Truck, but it cost way to much. I decided to hang on to my 2016 Willys, then purchase a 2018 Grand Cherokee Overland (loaded) demo with only 5K on it for $42K. The Grand Cherokee can tow 6200 lbs enough to pull my camper. I get all the nice things a Rubicon has for a whole lot less. Plus: my wife loves to drive it...
the best thing jeep can do is, sale the jeep without wheels and tires, no suspension, so we save money and we can do whatever we want for our jeep. maybe without differential .
The annoying noise turned out to be the hard top. I unbolted it, shifted it 1/8" on the tub, torque it back to spec at all the bolts, and the noise is gone.
I'm hoping that they will put the hellcat engine in the Gladiator soon thus torque will no longer be a issue. The bad thing is it will then be a 80k vehicle.
Awesome! I'm glad you were able to locate and fix the issue. Well done.
Damn, already having quality issues. Should've got a Tacoma
@@mechanicsteve2320 492 - gotta be coming to the Gladiator 🔜?
Run from tacoma
Rule no 1 - never buy the first model year of ANY vehicle.
Rule no 2 - never buy a jeep of any model.
Except toyota. They got mine right, the first time.
Yeah, Wait untill recalls have been addressed.
Rule no 3 nvr buy a Fiat truck!😂
@mk319mod0 😂😂😂....i hit a nerve? It was just a joke....Sorta..? LOL
It's September 10th, and that black Gladiator is still sitting there. :D Called it!
Not crazy about those cheesy mud flaps... Gladiator is outrageously over priced. Let them sit on the lots till they have to deeply discount.
Howdy! I would like to thank you for your interesting video. I am new to the Jeep pickup and so far, 3 weeks ownership, I am pleased at what I have purchased.
I can't wait to try out the four wheel because I know what the Camachee pick up was like in the 80's.
I am very thankful for your input and heads up on this vehicle. It gives a guy like me a head start on fun and knowledgeable Jeep ownership.
Thank you once again and please keep up the great work!!!
They should of made the sports alot more affordable. 44k is one hell alot of money on a jeep gladiator sport
I got the Rubicon version for 45000 with a lot of the bells and whistles.
you can buy quite a nice pickup for that.
Where did you get 44,000? The MSRP for a sport is $31,000
EATSLEEPDRIVE2002 try to find one. The lowest advertised price I can find in Alabama is $39k. If I could find one for under $33k with the auto trans I’d buy it tomorrow
@@BamaPewPew I got mine in Texas for 32k out the door
These things are WAY over priced. The base model is $10, 000 over a Tacoma TRD off road, and a Frontier PRO 4 X .
PRO 4 is due for an update. I heard that dealers are offering deep discounts..
Selling like hot cakes
Pro 4x is so bad in the cab. Just can’t do it
@@Dog.soldier1950 No doubt, but people are paying $50,000 or more for a wrangler that jeep attached a pick up bed to. Is it worth the money?
@@rottdog666 I think the Jeep PU will hold their value better and although pricy the better depreciation will make them a better buy in the long term
Everyone should know by now , Never buy a first time offered vehicle . Wait for next year so they can work out the inevitable issues .
Lots of problems with the Eco diesel on the Ram pickups and Grand Cherokees. You don't want that engine. The driver side mirror and poor seats are deal-breakers. The piss poor seats in the Tacoma are one of the reasons I didn't buy one. I test drove the Ford Ranger and it was ok but nothing special, not for the money they want for one of those. When they update the Ranger I'll check it out again. A big NO to anything from GM but I do like the look of the Colorado.
I was a huge gladiator fan before I even seen one. I followed all the pages and ads from several social media apps. When our local dealer got them in I was looking day one. I was so excited I overlooked some things. I drove it for a half hour and noticed what a cheap POS it was. I didn’t want to believe it. I came back the next day still ready to buy one. I was deciding between colors and started to really look how they was built. I was mad. I waited so long for them to finally show up and they turned out to be less than a wrangler in quality . I thought they was just like any other new wrangler with a truck bed. They are but the differences are so poorly done. It reminds me of Daewoo engineering and materials. WTF? I apologize for writing this but WTF Jeep?
Might want to check the drive shaft to make sure they put grease in it. Unless you already got the recall.
Great video with some excellent call outs. I have to say though, I chuckled a bit that one of your complaints was not being able to see whats happening in the lane next to you about 5 minutes after saying that the black jeep had “all the safety things you dont need” which would include blind spot haha. Good looking truck, I actually like the mudflaps everyone hates! And AMEN on the lack of trailer brake.
😂😂
I like jeeps, I have an 2005 LJ but these new jeeps are overpriced crap. You can get a full size truck loaded for this price.
And you can get good rebates on them
Isn't that what a jeep gladiator is a truck 🙆
A tiny POS truck you pay more for than a full size loaded truck that is more capable.
The tail lights stick out so that the blind spot monitoring can see past the fender flares.
Danny Roberts he doesn’t have the blind spot package
@@Baseball4life518 I understand that but that is why the tail lights are pushed out from the body.
Cody Jones doesn’t matter, same shape/size taillights
The tail lights stick out because that is where Jeep mounts the camera for the blind spot detection/lane keep assist.
Lane keep assist isn’t an option on JT, just blind spot detection.
I own a JLU. I owned a JKU. The price between my 2016 Rubicon almost completely loaded and my 2018 Rubicon almost completely loaded was 10K. The price of Wranglers is getting crazy expensive but as long as we are willing to pay the price they will keep on hiking the price. I dont see good service at the dealership either
It's an Italian Jeep that's why!
Thanks for this quite informative video.
I like to listen to your thoughts regarding the JT since you seem quite reasonable and unbiased.
I plan on getting a JT next year when they launch in Germany, if, that is, they do not go totally mental with the pricetag.
Will keep following your channel until then!
why did you sell your Gladiator ?
The tail lights are like that because they have the safety sensors in them on the safety package and have to protrude to do their job.
That is why I never buy a new truck when they first come out. Ill wait another 2 years before thinking about getting one .
Agreed and the fact they might have more engine options too soon would be a huge decision driver for me.
5 problems that none of the car reviewers on youtube addressed.
I have a Rubicon model and I think my biggest complaint is that there is no trailer brake controller! Other than that I'm loving mine. Trying to save money and do mods myself. Great truck overall though
TJ Mitchell Films when the configurator first came out there was a trailer brake option. Did the stop offering it?
Yes so they had it on there and pulled it. Last I heard they are saying late 2019 for availability... which seems crazy to me when they are pushing best in class towing so much.
I hate when they do things like that. If they release a vehicle they should have everything ready.
The brake controller is a Curt Products Spectrum. Available now , easy install Also our JT is two days old and already it ate the front fender liners . I am angry because FCA is in denial that the problem exists. We en joy your channel and ordered your running boards even though we bought a Rubicon. My wife ( the boss ) is short and we just wanted a Ruby. Be well. Wayne
I'd return that vehicle. Jesus christ it's a failure.
I was thinking the same. I have a TJ Wrangler and a Tundra. If you want a small truck get a Tacoma and be done with it. The Jeep is going up for sale soon. My Jeep only has 124K miles and it's a complete nightmare. Bad light switches, valve lifters, engine bearings, bad trans input shaft bearing. Good luck finding those kinds of problems on a Toyota with 125k miles.
Hopefully the Gladiator doesn't end up like the PT Cruiser. Released with so much hype and dealers were selling them for way more than the invoice/msrp because everyone had to have it.
Years later turns out it was a piece of crap.
PartyUpLive like the caliber , shadow, k car, all fiat junk
I have to say I appreciate your comments and your reviews. I'm learning from your nit-picky as you put it, please don't stop. I'm one of those guys who got the Gladiator, my first jeep and like you I love it, but I've seen your youtube review I've of been prepared with the info you sir put so Thank you
The tail lights stick out to accommodate the BSM system.
In situations like going thre a restaurant drive thru u will scrape the fender flare before hitting the BSM hump, same might hold true in 4 wheeling.
99.9% of the Gladiator owners would have been happier with a CJ and a Toyota Tacoma. When Jeep aggregated this albatross they made too many compromises and missed the whole point. You really can't use a Gladiator for hard core off-roading and it makes for a ridiculous truck. I appreciate your comments on this vehicle because it highlights the many issues that comes with anything that is NOT purpose built...
Can’t do serious off-reading? Have you seen any of the videos of people off-roaring in non-lifted Rubicons? Yes, they are longer but you can certainly off-road in them. Two inch left and 37s and you can go about anywhere.
Mitsubishi Montero used cheap fender liners and when I was washing it fell off disinigrated.
The jeep is setup for dirt road driving only . Light duty . The dealership is looking for the weekend backroad driver who may pull a small trailer sometimes . Mostly to be used commuting back and forth to work .
no different than any other mid size truck. except the max tow sport S will out pull any other mid size truck.
Jeep execs and engineers should all gather in a room and watch this video of yours! Thank you so much for your video. Now I know what to look for with my next Jeep ! Great video!
FCA has an alert out for the noise. It is the seat belt bracket they are just tightening it up and greasing it. Take it back to the dealer and they will fix it. But it may be your steps you installed if the bolts became a little loose. Happened on my jk. Supply issues with the trailer brake controller is holding those up. I do wish they made the Easter eggs Jeep trucks instead of Willy’s but I suspect they will in the future, just trying to save a little production time and cost with the recycled jl parts. I had a chance to speak with the production line boss for JT in Toledo, and he said most of the jl overhang is to save on production time. It takes 45mins to assemble a wrangler and 2 hrs to assemble a gladiator. So most is a time saver because they wanted to keep production at the Toledo plant and have to work around some plant issues to do it. Also the dealers can’t order there own packages right now only costumers can. All they can say to FCA is we want a JT. And then they get what they get.
Love my modified '78 CJ7 that I bought new for $6,500........The only thing electronic is the ignition box and my cell phone!
Hey I have a 2018 JL Sahara and have been thinking of trading in for a Gladiator. Your videos are very helpful. I wanted to let you know that in my Sahara Unlimited I don’t have any stamping on the inside handlebar and the plastic inside fenders appear to be the same as yours in the Gladiator.
Really? Interesting. Thanks for sharing.
I live in Saint Louis Missouri and I know 10 guys that have gladiators and have never heard any of the complaints that the author is making a fact they love the gladiator jeep
I think you gave a fair assessment of the vehicle. I said this before, FIAT should of really stepped up and offered the Gladiator in a trim level with the 5.7 Hemi. I'm willing to bet they wouldn't be able to keep those suckers on the lot. Americans love power.
I agree. The diesel will be almost a 5k option. Hemi will be much cheaper.
It’s a Fiat, do your research, build quality is the lowest and price is the highest. Worst value on the road.
@mk319mod0 I like both Tacos and Jeeps and I strongly considered the Gladiator (my requirement is 4x4 with a manual transmission) but I’m going with a Taco TRD Off-Road.
Bang for the buck, it can’t be beat. I do love the Gladdy, specifically the removable roof. But the Taco is the better truck for everyday driving. The Gladdy is better off road but for everything else a truck needs to do it isn’t as well thought out as the Taco.
The "ten" things I hate about it.
1: the over pricing if it.
2: see above.
3: see above.
Etc., etc., etc.
And it's a *Fiat* with a JEEP Badge.
Well Jeep is owned by Fiat. Lol
Too box looking and black plastic that will turn grey. Plus it's made by Chrysler/Fiat.
Definitely overpriced with a crappy engine and plastics but still the best chassis for off-roading.
Nick J I bet it will return to its former glory in 10-20 years after they get tired of making junk. That said I love the idea of the gladiator if it was built better and came in extended cab or two door.
@Nick J I have a 2000 xj, not perfect , almost.
@Nick J cool
@Nick J Me too ,my 2000 xj can be fixed by a knucklehead like me. Lord help those that are smarter than me . without u tube and other forums I would be lost.
Stupid trend, why would anyone buy this so called pickup? Buy a real pickup for that kind of money🙄🙄
It's more of a woman's truck really.
I like jeeps but this thing is just weird. Like a Jeep they attached a truck bed to. I’ll stick w my taco.
What's a real pick up truck?
I don't consider Anything a 'Truck',if you can't fit a bicycle without taking wheels off.
1- price
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Why do these trucks cost so much. I would have bought one at $20-25,000 for a mid size truck these companies pricing themselves out
For 20-25,000 you can't find a 4x4 pickup, period. They are all over 30.
You're paying for a exclusively, you're ultimately buying a lifestyle vehicle. You're buying a Jeep, and the first Jeep truck in about 3 decades, you want to buy a Jeep truck You're gonna pay a premium. If want it for cheaper wait a couple of years. And I agree you can to tow over 3000 lbs if you don't supply a trailer brake.
I’ve been looking at the gladiator but the option packaging pisses me off. No max tow package on the Overland trim. No proximity key option on the sport and sport s. Once you have that on a car, it’s hard to go back. Plus the push button start is stupid if you still have to take the key out to unlock the damn car!
Nobody pays sticker, the most anyone should pay would be invoice. Dealer gets incentives too
Currently if you offer to pay invoice on a Gladiator you will probably be told to leave. Demand is too high at the moment. I went to two different Jeep dealerships near me a couple weeks ago and each only had 1 truck in stock. One of them had dealer installed accessories (lift, bigger tires, ect) and was marked up $20K. Apparently most of them are sold before they even hit the lot. At least near me in the NW Phoenix-metro area.
I'm thinking I wont be seriously looking for one of these until next year. Hopefully by then the novelty of a new model wears off. And maybe by then we'll actually see more info about the diesel going in it.
waltr9358; could be I suppose in some or maybe all areas. I’m not sold into all the Gladiator hype. I have a Tundra for trucking and a TJ for jeeping
I think the price should be closer to the Regular unlimited. Generally trucks cost less than their SUV counterparts.
And ripped off you were.
Does getting the max tow package only come with the higher final gear ratio? I would imagine that driving down the highway unhitched, you’d lose some MPG because of that rear end... so getting the max tow package will affect your MPG and your cruising RPM, right?
The tail lights are poor design, but they did the same thing on the JKs. I was driving down a trail one in my JKU, and ran over a branch which was torqued up and took my tail light off. Ugh.
Trailer break controller coming by end of year they say
Maybe, you shouldn't run over a downed tree branch.
I just did the price build on the site with all the safety stuff and max tow. Total price came out to $45,705. I would not purchase a Gladiator without the Max Tow.
I have to throw this for comments.They make a Snorkel for deeper stuff.What happens to all that 'lane assist'and other computer components when water is above the doorsills?
i hate what jeep has become ! i had a 93 limited 4.0 back in the day and that thing was well built it was hit twice and repairable both times and $21k brand new those days are gone !
Drove my 92 4.0 for 22 years.
Those taillights are what kept me from getting a Gladiator and buying a JL. The taillights look good on my JL but like you said, they should have integrated them into the bed for aesthetics
Is it possible to physically move the whole mirror out more?
The taillight is out for the safety stuff
True however his sport doesnt have the blind spot indicator and several other manufacturers have done this without it sticking out this far
Needs to be 10K cheaper across the board.
Non rubicons should have a standard rear locking diff
It should’ve been, at very least, an option on the Overland Edition.
I have 2800 miles on my launch edition. All of the items mentioned are there, and are liveable; some are easily correctable. I'm sure many items will be addressed in future models. My Gladiator works well for me, because I replaced a JK Unlimited and a Sierra extended cab with one vehicle. I didn't want to wait and am glad to drive it daily, even with a few issues.
I have to say that I agree with your points. Hope Jeep is listening.
For the price (any wrangler for that matter) the seats are absolutely terrible. By far the most uncomfortable seats out there. We have a JL and any trip over 3hrs I just cant do it. Just kills my back. For 40k put some damn decent seats in.
1 question, did you look it over before buying?
Nope. Ordered it before I had seen or driven one. For the first 45 days, it was virtually impossible to see one on a lot because they sold as soon as they unloaded them from the delivery truck.
Wow... That's an absolutely stupid thing to do. Learn some patience and wait until you can get what you want. Ordering a truck you've never seen and know nothing about is absolutely stupid.
I love mine been watching your vids apparently my dealer thought of everything you hate had it over two months now love it will keep it probably will buy another when it’s payed for looked at half of comments only thing I have for them is their rite some ppl can’t afford them
Dealers order trucks like that because not everyone will use it in a way thats intended to do. Some will just drive to work, groceries and back home. So no need for a max tow.
I've always had wranglers all TJ's and 1 jk Chrysler just acknowledged death wobble is an issue in 2019. I've had that on all my wranglers at some point since 97 . Only reason they acknowledged it is because tins of new jeeps have the same issue sad thing is they blame it on poor service and lift kits and aftermarket parts .aftermarket parts better made than stock actually helped me fix those issues. They just sidestepped fixing that issue unless your jeep is bone stock
I'd like to know why they didn't include elockers? Been trying to get info on that, and can't get any price even on the elocker pod. Too new. Anyone know the number of splines for the Sport S axles shafts so I can figure which locker I need? 30 or 35 splines for a Dana 44? And the mirrors really bug me too. I have a rattle on my drivers sun visor.
With the Max Towing package, I believe the axle shafts are 32 spline, same as Rubicon.
That noise would drive me crazy. I’d take that thing apart just to find it.
I had a creaking noice like that in my drivers door,, all i did to fix it ,the rubber seal on the the body where the door seals all around was like dry, i armor all’d the whole seal a cpl of times to soften and make it more slippy and the noice went away , and maybe once a year i have to do that and it stays nice and quite.
That's why it's best to wait a year or so before getting a newly designed vehicle. It gives them time to work the bugs out and add the features everyone it s asking for.
Yup and the last year of a model (like the JK) would probably be the best time to grab a JK because most or all of the bugs during the years have been phased out. I grabbed a 2018 JKU last year :)
Theres after market mirrors that slip over the ones there to extend them out for better view.
will wrangler tube doors fit the gladiator?
Yes. The WRANGLER and the Gladiator both have the exact same doors so even if the get damaged somehow you can replace them for cheap!
The Gladiator was never designed as a truck from the ground up tbh. I compared one to my 06 Dakota and while the Gladiator does have new features and better fuel economy and such, it doesn’t measure up to what the Dakota can do as a pickup, but again, the Gladiator is more a Wrangler with a short bed on the back.
It was designed from the ground up as a truck. There are certain things that can swap out, (doors, ect) however the grill is larger for air flow while towing, lots of differences. They just didn't take a standard jeep and bolt a bed frame to it.
@@commonsense3963 it’s been a while but to clarify I wasn’t taking about the frame design or any of the mechanical aspects. The features that are on the truck are geared more towards an off roader rather than a towing/hauling rig. It’s not a bad truck, just there are better choices if you need something to haul/tow.
@@vr4787 I agree with that, it can easily haul a small camper or trailer, if you want. If you are looking to haul a 5th wheel or a 30ft trailer then pick a full size truck.
Do you need the tail lights are out like that for your sensors that indicate if somebody is beside you they need to be out as far as your fender flares are
This JT doesnt have the blind spot indicator
@@fergotti that's because at this point it's just about cost savings why would you make two different tail lights if they both do the same thing at the end of the day
@@frankmartin3182 dude I get it but I dont like how it looks
Jeep probably didn’t want to design larger mirrors for the Gladiator knowing that people would just complain that mirrors stick out too much, like the tail lights. People would just complain that off road the mirrors stick out too far. If people are gonna complain they probably figured, “Fuck it,” and saved the money on designing new mirrors to use for something else that, not surprising, people would complain about.
Another insightful vlog. Good job and Thanks.
Just push the side mirror glass out a little. It will Rachet
I own a TJL with 124K miles and a Tundra. Take that thing back and get a Tacoma. My Jeep is going up for sale. Here's why; headlight control stalk went and drained the battery in the process, ignition switch actuator, a valve lifter sticks, crankshaft bearings shit the bed but the rod bearings had normal wear, bad trans input shaft bearing. And that's just been the past 25k miles. Good luck finding those kinds of problems on an Import
with 125k miles. In the past 30K on the Tundra I've changed the brakes and oil. It has 98K on the clock.
Does the physical mirror open outward more by any chance?
Did you research the vehicle before buying it?
Didn't you notice those."things you hate " before buying it.
Seriously the rear lights?
Am happy with my almost loaded rubicon glady
In a year you won't get more than 26K for a trade and the Jeep dealers will offer the least.
Fender liners on my Ram 1500 are junk too. The mirror situation is a joke, that sucks!
And the video starts when?
All gladiators have a hook up for the trailer brake controller under the dash directly under the steering wheel. It is the same as in the ram trucks. I ordered a redarc controller and ram hook ups and it installed easily and didn’t even have to flash the computer. I feel like I should do a TH-cam video but I am camera shy😂 face for radio! But works and looks great! I think Jeep always planned on offering the brake controller but their supplier couldn’t meet the dead line or specs. And I do wish they had a cool tow mirror something like the ram where they fold out. But they are probably coming just have to be patient. And I wish all colors where available when they released it for ordering. Had to get silver may third choice because I couldn’t wait! I think Jeep did rush this a little just to get it out there before the midsize truck market cools off. But it is a good start and I am sure they will only get better. After all the Jeep Wrangler is fca’s bread and butter along with the ram.
for the cost, it should come integrated in. Aux buttons come with the tow pkg, but not a controller? thats my only issue with it.
New to the whole Jeep thing myself. Never owned one, doing my research, have come across this video a couple of times.
And others of course. You're not along on the "up to go down" issue. I see it as a matter of perception. When I am going through a menu, I think of it like it's written it on paper or displayed on a larger screen. #1 is at the top, #2 below that, #3 below that... Down in direction is up in number. Frankly, it's how I myself expect it to be. It's obvious this is a menu, why would it be arranged in any other way, you know?
But forward to downshift... I'll give you that one. I think of a stickshift, where first is forward, second is rearward, but then third is forward from second... and this being an automatic that you have, really that doesn't make sense. Even on the 20 year old two door "sports" car I drive daily, first gear is all the way rearward.
Glad you figured out the noise... I'd be annoyed by that too, and now I know what to look for (a soft-top LOL).
I wonder if the JK/JL fender well inserts could translate to the JT. Are they so different they won't fit?
Real men love cats. In fact I'm wearing that shirt right now.
But what do I know? I want a stick-shift :D
I like your reviews. Honest and not overblown. All those things would bother me to. Good video! Cheers from Miami.
My 2k18 JL Wrangler has nothing written on the passenger grab handle.
The brake lights stick out because some models have the blindspot notification tech.
This is the worst truck out there , extremely noisy, leak water, loose / play steering wheel, cheap plastic interior, all the above is unfixable.
How about Jeep offering a manual transmission on this truck and selling for less money
They do
Aren’t Jeeps rated bad on all the automotive websites?
I dont understand why nobody ever thinks 'don't buy the first year of any new generation of vehicle' you'll have all sorts of fitment issues and quality control problems. The current gen 2019+ Ram had issues with the outside molding mixing chrome upscale and black WT window trims. Easy shit like that is avoidable but everyone 'has to have the newest thing's so I always laugh, you did it to yourself and spent WAY to much money to figure that shit out.
You're saying no1 should ever buy first year vehicles. So with that logic no1 would be driving vehicles right now, smart thinking!
Jeeps are junk. I have one and I know. The price is coming from all the middlemen who want their cut.
I noticed the same thing about the mirror after I test drove one at the dealer. Then I was reading about the mirrors online and one forum showed that you can move the entire mirror. Like the black plastic part. It said it was very stiff but it would move. Have you tried this?
Wonder if these will hold there value like the wranglers. I didnt like the way they looked but its growing on me. I've owned rams and jeeps. Cryhsler definitely makes sharp looking vehicles. But there reliability not to sure of. My I guess you dont buy a jeep for reliability
I needed a tow vehicle, wanted the Jeep Truck, but it cost way to much. I decided to hang on to my 2016 Willys, then purchase a 2018 Grand Cherokee Overland (loaded) demo with only 5K on it for $42K. The Grand Cherokee can tow 6200 lbs enough to pull my camper. I get all the nice things a Rubicon has for a whole lot less. Plus: my wife loves to drive it...
Things about your gladiator I hate is you have one and I don’t. LOL great vid, keep it up.
Can you move the back of the mirror over? I have adjusted it by pushing the black backing outward. Hope this helps.
the best thing jeep can do is,
sale the jeep without wheels and tires, no suspension, so we save money and we can do whatever we want for our jeep.
maybe without differential .
Have you ever owned a vehicle that he was 100% satisfied with or anything a person in your life that he was 100% satisfied with
One of things I dislike about my 21 Jeep Gladiator are my front left speakers, sounds like it's popped and not having a V8. Who care about mpgs.
Nice looking H3T
Could be summed up with “I really wish that Jeep just made a Tacoma with a removable hardtop”
Probably a tool from the factory in the door panel like a wrench