Hi Tinman, I recommended your channel to several folks today that were looking for information on porting power saws. I do not have the time to port saws for others right now so I have been looking for an honest and open source for info to refer folks to, so that they can learn to port themselves or have a better understanding of porting when hiring a saw builder. Having followed your channel from the beginning I can truly say you have the heart of a teacher. Your transparency in this video continues to prove that. Thank You!
I was gonna subscribe either way but your honesty about chipping the plating and explaining that that's how things go when you're building things completely sold it for me. Honesty goes a long way and it's in short supply around here.
That's always such a bummer when something like that happens in the "finishing touches" stages☹ sometimes it's the unforseen challenges that make these hobbies fun! Thanks for sharing!
I believe you are gonna love that titanickle cylinder and piston! I’m looking forward to seeing the results! Thanks for sharing buddy! 👍👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🙏🙏🙏
Tinmaaaaan, buddy.. That is very unfortunate about the first jug, s-$&t happened and that's life.. Keep up the honest content, we are all very thankful for what you are putting up.. All the best.. SLANT'E
272 giveaway now! Sorry about the chip. Gotta be honest Tinman, when you were showing the top ends you had to choose from, I was rooting for the 272 titanikel. Now I feel kinda guilty, like I made that happen with my big brain waves... my bad 😉
Unfortunately I cook 2 of my power saw 455 husqvarna and 590 echo, not bad for 12 year old saws, dwon to 372 knock off and makita ea6100 only left. But love the work and videos, really helpful, on the 056 avo still wait on back orders, be safe out there
Awe buddy.... those transfers were lookin' MINT! You took it like a man. I have been known to have conversations with inanimate objects in situations like that.
Looks like getting that grinder dialed in. Hopefully be able get one this yr. And start learning the in and out. Like how getting that bore camera figure out also. Those things can be a pain get angles sometimes.
Great video!!! You continue to show and give me ideas on my porting and how to improve!! I’ve used Hyway cylinders for years and they have always been great and have never had a failure. Monday I was working on a 272 cylinder and incited chipping like you experienced. Definitely a downer. I’ll be waiting for your next video!!!👍👍👍
I’m glad you took it well. I myself would’ve had a meltdown! All that time down the drain, but your outlook helps people like me not react so harshly! And I appreciate that. Stuff happens, no biggie! That was just a practice run! 🤣 you’re the man!
You are the man tinman 👍 any body else would of not even mentioned that oops, what a great job showing all of us that , you show steady hands and confidence in your grinding great job 👍👍👍
Tin man I was watching this thinking it's a 268 but close to the 272 Hyway titanikel cylinder with a pop-up piston I'm going to use as soon as I get time to get to it. Now I guess it is as long as yours has a pop-up piston. It sucks to have the plating chip in that spot. I'm sure it will get used for something at some point 😉. Good video of course now the name of the video will have to be 268/272
Hey Tinman!! I love your porting work, I've been watching your channel pretty much since the start and you have givin me the ability to fix my saw when I though it was going to cost 100$ I can't thank you enough for everything you have done to help other and the amazing content, perfectly in depth just perfect! I've been wanting to port my 266se just the way you did that one bit I don't have the tooling nor the money for equipment, I wish I could just send you the jug
Tinman, I just watched a video Bayou Country Power Saws has up about a 262xp and it runs great. I own a 262xp that needs some work, but seeing you port this 268 gives me a good idea on what to do with those lower transfers so it'll run more like Kensies 262 than it does stock. Thanks Tinman!!!
@@tinmanssaws Pulled the cylinder and there's some dark grey by the both ports (wear or aluminum transfer from piston on exh side?) and the exh side of the piston has scored marks not not on the int side, and now crank won't rotate. I put it back together and it's a project saw to learn on. It'll be 6 months or so before I tackle this but I'll keep you informed. Umm decided tomorrow to pour fuel and oil mix into lowers to soak them bearing.
I've had no experience myself there Tinman but everyone I've ever seen online says the plating on those Titanickle cylinders chips really easy and maybe you already knew that
Love the videos although I would have left the cylinder side of the transfer stock bar a light stoning to clean the casting .. My thinking is by keeping it stock you force the column of air towards the rear transfer wall and strengthen its entry into the cylinder ..
Ruined the first cylinder I tried to port by doing what tinman did right next to exhaust port. Wolf creek saw shop took care of me - it cost me $75 to have a new cylinder shipped, and he mailed it even before I paid for it. Amazing service, not a bad fee for such a big error.
I think its interesting how much you focus on transfers. Very to cool to see a well known guy port first hand. Definitely gives me more confidence in my own porting. Although a dremel is a pain to port with. Constantly overheats have to wait and port for 5 minutes wait and do it again and again. Have to invest in better tooling. I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on porting the upper transfers, intake, and exhaust ports. Do you have any videos of porting a McCulloch? I'll dig through your videos and find out. Nice video!
Oh boy good luck with grinding the titanikel..platings super hard n they chip really easy..i have a 66 titanikel that has #s comparable to oem n running it stock it's so good..was gonna port it but heard others had terrible time grinding them..great stuff tinman..
What can you do to try and minimize the chipping? I'm thinking the chipping on the left side of the transfer is due to the rotation of the tool lifting the plating. Reversing the rotation on that side would probably stop the big chips. I'd also hazard a guess that generally chipping would be minimized as the tool speed goes up. I'd try and get comfortable with it at max speed. Not sure though. The thing can really dig in if not controlled well.
i was thinking the same thing about the plating. maybe try doing the finishing cuts with the right angle tool so the teeth of the burr are running roughly along the line of the plating.
Another fantastic video! Your shot looking inside as you were grinding was very cool...did you stick the bore scope through the plug hole? So you left a very thin ring the original thickness across the bottom edge of the transfer’s... wouldn’t it allow more fuel charge to shoot up out of the bottom end if that material on the sides was pushed back to actually open up the very bottom of the transfer’s??? Or do you need that to be acting as a seal kinda to make the fuel mixture shoot through the piston window’s and not get mixed around???
Are you leaving the lower transfer wall on bottom cylinder. Or you going square cut it out to the base. Did you get the angle head handle also when you got the Foredom. Have you tried that one if you did.
I see some guys bring there transfers all the way down the bottom of cylinder wall and some leave a 1/16th of cylinder wall at the bottom. Witch is right or better?
How many saws did you port in the beginning until you got it right. Or did you do a good porting job the first time you tried? I feel like I need to go ahead and grab some junk saws and practice first lol
Tinman! Great content! I put a 372 top end on my 365 and decked the cylinder to about .025 and ported it.....It has the Zama EL8A would it be worth it to spend the $100 to get a Walbro HD12? Many thanks! Keep on rockin 🤘🤘🤟
I bought an HD 12 and couldn't get my 372 to tune at all so I went back to a farmertec carb and it runs great. There are guys that know how to mod those Walbro carbs to work well but its kinda like jewelers work, you need little tiny pin drills I think.
@@mfsaws8240 no problem, I think the carb I got is an "epa" carb and if you get an older hd12 it would probably be fine. Mine had limiter caps which I removed but I think there is some internal jet bypass paths or something that kinda links the high and low circuits some how.
“Sit Down and Port” makes “Stand Up and Buck” happen!
Hi Tinman, I recommended your channel to several folks today that were looking for information on porting power saws. I do not have the time to port saws for others right now so I have been looking for an honest and open source for info to refer folks to, so that they can learn to port themselves or have a better understanding of porting when hiring a saw builder. Having followed your channel from the beginning I can truly say you have the heart of a teacher. Your transparency in this video continues to prove that. Thank You!
Tinman... the dentist for chainsaws... excellent video.
I was gonna subscribe either way but your honesty about chipping the plating and explaining that that's how things go when you're building things completely sold it for me. Honesty goes a long way and it's in short supply around here.
Someone will get a cool saw. Nice work! The camera angle inside the cylinder was awesome.
Tinman gets the shots!
Great video Tinman it's always educational.
That's always such a bummer when something like that happens in the "finishing touches" stages☹ sometimes it's the unforseen challenges that make these hobbies fun! Thanks for sharing!
I believe you are gonna love that titanickle cylinder and piston! I’m looking forward to seeing the results! Thanks for sharing buddy! 👍👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🙏🙏🙏
Tinmaaaaan, buddy.. That is very unfortunate about the first jug, s-$&t happened and that's life.. Keep up the honest content, we are all very thankful for what you are putting up.. All the best.. SLANT'E
Thanks for sharing. Bummer about the chip dang it. I have been looking forward to seeing one of the titanikel cylinders at work. Love it buddy. 🌲❤🌲✊🪓
272 giveaway now! Sorry about the chip.
Gotta be honest Tinman, when you were showing the top ends you had to choose from, I was rooting for the 272 titanikel.
Now I feel kinda guilty, like I made that happen with my big brain waves... my bad 😉
you weren't the only one hoping he would fit the titanickel top end. 😆
You have been busy lately making alot of videos! Much appreciated for your time a knowledge! Thanks for sharing
Thanks buddy! Really appreciate you taking the time share and knowledge! ✊
Good job Tinman. Also good camera work can see everything you did
Love watching you very good job explaining what is going on
That socks, but more power equal better work saw, can't to see what happen with first cylinder. Love watching your work buddy, see on the next one
Unfortunately I cook 2 of my power saw 455 husqvarna and 590 echo, not bad for 12 year old saws, dwon to 372 knock off and makita ea6100 only left. But love the work and videos, really helpful, on the 056 avo still wait on back orders, be safe out there
Bummer on the chipped transfer but the new cylinder is gonna be better! Somebodys gonna get a ripper! Cant wait to see what that saw turns into!!
Awe buddy.... those transfers were lookin' MINT! You took it like a man. I have been known to have conversations with inanimate objects in situations like that.
Looks like getting that grinder dialed in. Hopefully be able get one this yr. And start learning the in and out. Like how getting that bore camera figure out also. Those things can be a pain get angles sometimes.
Good videos.......whatever became of the CS590 Timberwolf? ? ? ? I can't stand not knowing ? ? ? ? ! ! ! !
Also awsome job on the up close shots!
Looking good, thanks for sharing.
Great video!!! You continue to show and give me ideas on my porting and how to improve!!
I’ve used Hyway cylinders for years and they have always been great and have never had a failure. Monday I was working on a 272 cylinder and incited chipping like you experienced. Definitely a downer.
I’ll be waiting for your next video!!!👍👍👍
That porting will really put some "zing" into that Husky 👍 and nice job showing the process.
Awesome video. Keep up the good work.
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I’m glad you took it well. I myself would’ve had a meltdown! All that time down the drain, but your outlook helps people like me not react so harshly! And I appreciate that. Stuff happens, no biggie! That was just a practice run! 🤣 you’re the man!
Well who knows how long he stopped recording and was swearing like a sailor😂
@@edwingroening5087 you’re absolutely right 😂 But he left that out and saved us the positive outlook! What a guy!
You are the man tinman 👍 any body else would of not even mentioned that oops, what a great job showing all of us that , you show steady hands and confidence in your grinding great job 👍👍👍
Nice job TINMAN looks stock✊✊
Tin man I was watching this thinking it's a 268 but close to the 272 Hyway titanikel cylinder with a pop-up piston I'm going to use as soon as I get time to get to it. Now I guess it is as long as yours has a pop-up piston. It sucks to have the plating chip in that spot. I'm sure it will get used for something at some point 😉. Good video of course now the name of the video will have to be 268/272
Gonna be a ripper i know because that's what u build an i love it
Hey Tinman!! I love your porting work, I've been watching your channel pretty much since the start and you have givin me the ability to fix my saw when I though it was going to cost 100$ I can't thank you enough for everything you have done to help other and the amazing content, perfectly in depth just perfect!
I've been wanting to port my 266se just the way you did that one bit I don't have the tooling nor the money for equipment, I wish I could just send you the jug
Tinman, I just watched a video Bayou Country Power Saws has up about a 262xp and it runs great. I own a 262xp that needs some work, but seeing you port this 268 gives me a good idea on what to do with those lower transfers so it'll run more like Kensies 262 than it does stock. Thanks Tinman!!!
That 262 that Kensies built was a strong runner for sure.
@@tinmanssaws Pulled the cylinder and there's some dark grey by the both ports (wear or aluminum transfer from piston on exh side?) and the exh side of the piston has scored marks not not on the int side, and now crank won't rotate. I put it back together and it's a project saw to learn on. It'll be 6 months or so before I tackle this but I'll keep you informed. Umm decided tomorrow to pour fuel and oil mix into lowers to soak them bearing.
@@tinmanssaws Friend, how best to adjust the L-needle in the carburetor?
So much easier to deal with o my my God very beautiful
Awesome video tinman. Shame towards end .u can do something with that cylinder head am sure .godbless
Great content!
Awsome video, Tinman! Thanks for sharing! 👍
I've had no experience myself there Tinman but everyone I've ever seen online says the plating on those Titanickle cylinders chips really easy and maybe you already knew that
Oem is always the best
Love the videos although I would have left the cylinder side of the transfer stock bar a light stoning to clean the casting .. My thinking is by keeping it stock you force the column of air towards the rear transfer wall and strengthen its entry into the cylinder ..
I would have blown a gasket wrecking a new top end lol guess that’s why I’m trying to port a free saw
Ruined the first cylinder I tried to port by doing what tinman did right next to exhaust port. Wolf creek saw shop took care of me - it cost me $75 to have a new cylinder shipped, and he mailed it even before I paid for it. Amazing service, not a bad fee for such a big error.
I think its interesting how much you focus on transfers. Very to cool to see a well known guy port first hand. Definitely gives me more confidence in my own porting. Although a dremel is a pain to port with. Constantly overheats have to wait and port for 5 minutes wait and do it again and again. Have to invest in better tooling. I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on porting the upper transfers, intake, and exhaust ports. Do you have any videos of porting a McCulloch? I'll dig through your videos and find out. Nice video!
"How to port a chainsaw"is a playlist with a complete start to finish of a saw being done.
Oh boy good luck with grinding the titanikel..platings super hard n they chip really easy..i have a 66 titanikel that has #s comparable to oem n running it stock it's so good..was gonna port it but heard others had terrible time grinding them..great stuff tinman..
Darn, but been waiting to see a titanikel build!!!
thats great i with someone would port saws over here in scotland also love the channel ceek it up
Can't wait to see that saw in the wood tinman. We all know she's gonna rip
You would make a great dentist just keep grinding
love the vid!!
What can you do to try and minimize the chipping? I'm thinking the chipping on the left side of the transfer is due to the rotation of the tool lifting the plating. Reversing the rotation on that side would probably stop the big chips. I'd also hazard a guess that generally chipping would be minimized as the tool speed goes up. I'd try and get comfortable with it at max speed. Not sure though. The thing can really dig in if not controlled well.
i was thinking the same thing about the plating.
maybe try doing the finishing cuts with the right angle tool so the teeth of the burr are running roughly along the line of the plating.
Thank s
Glad to see that I’m not the only one
Hope you show the grind on the titanickle.
Aww, bummer man! Thanks for being open and honest, and sharing your mistakes! Oh man, 272 would be so sweet! I'm a 2-series junkie :0) Blessings man!
Back to the grind.
I'll only run OEM cylinders on my personal production saws....
Hey buddy love you
I'd like you to talk about your grinding equipment, I'm looking for something new.
honest man
Another fantastic video! Your shot looking inside as you were grinding was very cool...did you stick the bore scope through the plug hole? So you left a very thin ring the original thickness across the bottom edge of the transfer’s... wouldn’t it allow more fuel charge to shoot up out of the bottom end if that material on the sides was pushed back to actually open up the very bottom of the transfer’s??? Or do you need that to be acting as a seal kinda to make the fuel mixture shoot through the piston window’s and not get mixed around???
Are you leaving the lower transfer wall on bottom cylinder. Or you going square cut it out to the base. Did you get the angle head handle also when you got the Foredom. Have you tried that one if you did.
Getting closer to a 372 lol. Sorry it didn’t work out but I know you can fix it
I would filled it in buy welding it then sand it down instead of throwing it way
looks good but will it cut gum
+++++++++++++ Are the channels ground on both sides of the cylinder or only on one side????
I see some guys bring there transfers all the way down the bottom of cylinder wall and some leave a 1/16th of cylinder wall at the bottom. Witch is right or better?
Both are right. Depends on what you are goin for
@@tinmanssaws instant throttle response
I have a dental phobia so please turn the volume down 😂😂😂
Here we go again I’m just playing
How many saws did you port in the beginning until you got it right. Or did you do a good porting job the first time you tried? I feel like I need to go ahead and grab some junk saws and practice first lol
First saw I ever ported was a Stihl ms260. It ran pretty well..
It took me 4 or 5 saws to really understand whats what.
Tinman! Great content! I put a 372 top end on my 365 and decked the cylinder to about .025 and ported it.....It has the Zama EL8A would it be worth it to spend the $100 to get a Walbro HD12? Many thanks! Keep on rockin 🤘🤘🤟
I bought an HD 12 and couldn't get my 372 to tune at all so I went back to a farmertec carb and it runs great. There are guys that know how to mod those Walbro carbs to work well but its kinda like jewelers work, you need little tiny pin drills I think.
@@vintagesawyer6246 Thank you for your input and experience. Much appreciated!
@@mfsaws8240 no problem, I think the carb I got is an "epa" carb and if you get an older hd12 it would probably be fine. Mine had limiter caps which I removed but I think there is some internal jet bypass paths or something that kinda links the high and low circuits some how.
I’ve seen 268 cylinder kits without windowed pistons. Why would that be?
Those are probably the 268 non xp version. Those have open ports and windowless pistons.
Blue stuff is it oil or mix of dishsoap.
Water and dishsoap
Hey whats the bore on that cylinder
I'd run that cylinder on a personal saw. Smooth that chip out and giver🤭
Yeah its good enough for me but not something I'll send to someone elso.
I'll use it on an upcoming project that envolves machine work.
@@tinmanssaws completely agree. Besides, I'm curious to see how the titanikel performs.
Oooooooooh……… I like more Powerful!!!
Poop. Don't you hate it when something like this happens at the end of your work instead of before doing all the hard yakka.
Its all part of the process. Doesn't happen often but it does happen sometimes.
( oooops )🤢