Just wanted to say thank you for making this program. I gave up on film because converting colour film was so difficult and time consuming but this gives perfect results and it's easy to use.
Wow! I have been shooting digital my entire life, just recently had the guts to move out to film, and ever since been shooting digital, always try to mimicking how film look like I learnt to do the whole process at home except printing in darkroom... at first was so disappointed how the scanner outputs the photos... and since im partially color blind, adjusting a white balance is a hassle for me I even tried out many software and swoop my scanner which i thought was to blame... till i found Negative Lab Pro group in FB...i was so curious and started my research bout this...gave it a trial for 12 converted photos...less than an hour, i just paid for full version Thank you so much Nate! This is a must for home processing film IMHO... and would appreciate every slide of film even more
One thing that I found being rather frustrating was the problem when using a GPU. To be honest I didn't realize the solution would be so simple, so thank you for pointing that out. Might I suggest that you maybe put that information at the very top of the guide on your website or somewhere really prominent. It is very essential for smooth operation. It would have saved me some frustration.
I’m curious why the negative to positive colour conversion is based on replicating the look of a particular pro film scanner and not based on the film type as in Silverfast. Your approach seems very different and you seem to get great results. You’ve just approached the problem from a totally different perspective. I work 99% black and white (as I’m restoring historical images, glass plates, large format, panorama etc) and not needing to know the original film type is a big plus for me. The saving to tiff is a brilliant feature btw. I’m currently exporting to tiff and reimporting to get over the Lightroom backwards adjustment slider issue with negatives.
Thanks, Nate. Excellent video. I appreciate the simple logics of your tool. Shooting mostly B&W, I was wondering whether Negative lab Pro could bring as much benefits for B&W scans from film. Would you accept to make a video tutorial dedicated to using NLP for b&w photography? Thanks by advance! Photographic cheers from France, Jean
Thanks! Yes and yes - there are some major benefits to both speed and results using Negative Lab Pro for black and white film scans. I will make a separate video that will show more!
@@NatePhotographic Like Jean, I'm considering trying out Negative Lab Pro Nate, but I'm wondering if you ever got round to making a video showing the benefits for Black and White neg scan's ?
Could you tell me please, can I do dslr scan method, if I have fujifilm x-t30 and 18-55 not macro lens? And just what focal length better need to do this?
Hey nate i have question, basicly i dont have scaner, so my lab scan it for me, and i can ask for 'positive scan' so i get the negative film and convert it with nlp, the problem is most of the lab cant give a little film border that we need to white balance it bcs it fully automatic right, so how u choose the white balance spot? second is it ok to convert it from jpg file?, bcs as far as i know scaner like frontier and noritsu cant give a tiff scan file.
I reckon it would work for TIFF generated by a Hasselblad X5 too, right? Don't really like the way FlexColor handles the inversion. it would be nice to have it Photoshop as well!
thanks for this video! I do have one problem with negative lab pro: when clicking the white balance, it is always on 2000 K, all the way to the left. And the images did not really look great after converting. I do use Kodak Portra. Any idea? Thanks
Great software, Nate. I've made the mistake of not cropping out the frame properly and converting and couldn't understand why my negatives come out all blue. Solid explanation, thank you! Is there a way to use Negative Lab Pro to convert images and have film borders around the image still?
Answering my own question from one year ago - of course, there is a way! Just crop images before conversion properly, do all the Negative Lab things, and change cropping back again.
when you white balance you said you would not go past 2400, why is that? If I can't WB off the film mask why can't I opt for daylight setting instead of auto ? the negative is a "sunny 16" type of image.
I scan with silverfast and im just starting to learn more about negative lab pro. Then thing i am most confused with, is what (if any) is the benefit in converting the negative to a positive yourself? by that i mean, with silverfast the negative is scanned and converted automatically, so would there be a noticable difference with doing it yourself with negative lab?
The main reason is for people that are "scanning" their negatives with a DSLR camera, where you photograph the negative and you have a RAW file that has to be converted into a positive, and Silverfast doesn't work with regular images from this method, just scanners. Negative Lab Pro helps to propertly invert the negatives just like Silverfast does, so if you're using a scanner then I don't see much of a reason to use Negative Lab Pro instead of Silverfast.
You would have to untick the box in Epson Scan 2 that automatically detects your frames, so you can select them manually and have the borders of your film.
I am running into a problem where I white balance off the white masking. It turns the photo a little orange and when I run the plug-in it only dulls the orange and lowers highlights. What do I do?
@@NatePhotographic Unless there is a second button hiding somewhere I did. I checked my masking to make sure nothing was causing an issue and made sure to white balance the photos. I also re-scanned the photos.
@@ChrisBraw There are two buttons. There is an "Apply" button AND a "Convert Negative" button. Based on your description, I'm guessing you hit the "apply" button.
Hey Nate, in some of your earlier videos, you talk about changing the profile in LR from Adobe Color to Negative Lab. On the trial version I didn't see this feature available, and you don't mention it here. I noticed this video contains edits in both profiles. Is this something we need to do? Thanks for creating this.
Chris - when you first pull up Negative Lab Pro, it now automatically sets up the Negative Lab profile for you (on RAW DLSR scans -- regular scans will not have a camera profile associated with them since you cannot have dcp profiles for non-camera files). The latest version has been upgrade to have Negative Lab Pro set the preset settings for you dynamics - no need to hit a preset. This saves time and allows it to adjust internal calibrations that get it closer to the emulations than was possible with the presets. When you pull up Negative Lab Pro on an image, you should see the Adobe Standard or Adobe Color profile change to Negative Lab automatically (there was a bug in versions before v1.1.4 where it would sometimes not update the displayed profile, even though the profile was correctly being changed in the background, which is what you see happening in this video)
I want to try this but dont currently own a macro lens for fuji. Anyone tried using with a wide angle lens like the 16mm 1.4 that i can get pretty close with?
There's a free trial, so you can try it! That said, I'm not sure sure you will be able to fill your frame with a 16mm lens (especially if shooting 35mm film - you may be able to get almost there with 120 film or larger)
Hey Nate! I downloaded, installed and I'm very pleased with the results. Have you done any 4x5 DSLR scanning? Currently that is what I am trying to do and just seeing if anyone was a solid workflow for the DIY method and not scanning.
Hi! So glad you are pleased! I haven't personally done any 4x5 scanning but I'm sure there are some in the community who have! Check out the "Negative Lab Pro Users" private facebook group, and I'm sure someone else has some tips!
If using Lightroom 6, make sure you have updated to the most recent release of LR 6 (some early version had bug with SDK). Also, make sure to turn off "Use Graphics Processor" in LR preferences (there is still a bug in with this that impacts SDK). One of these two things should fix it!
If you want to use Negative Lab Pro with scans from film scanners, you need to set the scan mode to "positive" so that it does not try to invert the image for you. Then use Negative Lab Pro to invert and edit the image. I'm also working on a separate video for working with various film scanners, along with some changes to how NLP works with these files.
Hi - on a Mac, just hit "control + N" to bring up Negative Lab Pro. On Windows, you can either go to "file > plugin extras > Negative Lab Pro" or follow the instructions here (www.negativelabpro.com/guide/installing/#windows-hotkey-installation) to install and use the Windows hotkey shortcut. Hope that helps! -Nate
Just wanted to say thank you for making this program. I gave up on film because converting colour film was so difficult and time consuming but this gives perfect results and it's easy to use.
Thanks so much! Love hearing that and love seeing more and more photographers getting in to colour film!
Wow!
I have been shooting digital my entire life, just recently had the guts to move out to film, and ever since been shooting digital, always try to mimicking how film look like
I learnt to do the whole process at home except printing in darkroom... at first was so disappointed how the scanner outputs the photos... and since im partially color blind, adjusting a white balance is a hassle for me
I even tried out many software and swoop my scanner which i thought was to blame... till i found Negative Lab Pro group in FB...i was so curious and started my research bout this...gave it a trial for 12 converted photos...less than an hour, i just paid for full version
Thank you so much Nate! This is a must for home processing film IMHO... and would appreciate every slide of film even more
Awesome Video, I can't wait for my negatives to come back, do my own scans and work it in Negative Lab Pro!!!!!
Negative Lab Pro is a game changer. Thank you for making this plugin!
Super helpful video! Thanks for sharing!
thanks for making this wonderful plug in
Do you plan to make a version for Capture One Pro also? :)
Brilliant video! Cheers Nate!
One thing that I found being rather frustrating was the problem when using a GPU. To be honest I didn't realize the solution would be so simple, so thank you for pointing that out. Might I suggest that you maybe put that information at the very top of the guide on your website or somewhere really prominent. It is very essential for smooth operation. It would have saved me some frustration.
I’m curious why the negative to positive colour conversion is based on replicating the look of a particular pro film scanner and not based on the film type as in Silverfast. Your approach seems very different and you seem to get great results. You’ve just approached the problem from a totally different perspective. I work 99% black and white (as I’m restoring historical images, glass plates, large format, panorama etc) and not needing to know the original film type is a big plus for me. The saving to tiff is a brilliant feature btw. I’m currently exporting to tiff and reimporting to get over the Lightroom backwards adjustment slider issue with negatives.
In version 2 he also is including film stock settings.
Good video. Perhaps time to update it for Version 2.4?
I wish there is a version for Capture One 20. will there be one soon?
Super helpful! Thanks Nate!
Thanks, Nate. Excellent video. I appreciate the simple logics of your tool. Shooting mostly B&W, I was wondering whether Negative lab Pro could bring as much benefits for B&W scans from film. Would you accept to make a video tutorial dedicated to using NLP for b&w photography? Thanks by advance!
Photographic cheers from France, Jean
Thanks! Yes and yes - there are some major benefits to both speed and results using Negative Lab Pro for black and white film scans. I will make a separate video that will show more!
@@NatePhotographic Like Jean, I'm considering trying out Negative Lab Pro Nate, but I'm wondering if you ever got round to making a video showing the benefits for Black and White neg scan's ?
Nate I have a lot of B&W negatives and wondered how the NLP works with B&W negatives? Are there any tutorials on that?
There is a B&W converting mode, but B&W is also really easy to convert manually
What is the best workflow to get the negative scanned via a flatbed epson into Lightroom? Is it best to use default settings with the epson software?
Hi! I have a post about that on the forum here: forums.negativelabpro.com/t/scanning-film-negatives-with-epson-scan-and-negative-lab-pro/345
Could you tell me please, can I do dslr scan method, if I have fujifilm x-t30 and 18-55 not macro lens? And just what focal length better need to do this?
Hey nate i have question, basicly i dont have scaner, so my lab scan it for me, and i can ask for 'positive scan' so i get the negative film and convert it with nlp, the problem is most of the lab cant give a little film border that we need to white balance it bcs it fully automatic right, so how u choose the white balance spot? second is it ok to convert it from jpg file?, bcs as far as i know scaner like frontier and noritsu cant give a tiff scan file.
I reckon it would work for TIFF generated by a Hasselblad X5 too, right? Don't really like the way FlexColor handles the inversion. it would be nice to have it Photoshop as well!
thanks for this video!
I do have one problem with negative lab pro: when clicking the white balance, it is always on 2000 K, all the way to the left. And the images did not really look great after converting. I do use Kodak Portra. Any idea? Thanks
What light source are you using? I could see this happening perhaps if you were using a very warm light source to illuminate your negative?
Nate Photographic it is a Aputure Amaran AL-M9. The specs say it has 5500k
Thanks nate, awesome video!
Been trying to get to you. I have a Polaroid 120 scanner, and there is no profile in NLP, so I get crap for output. Anything I can do?
Great software, Nate. I've made the mistake of not cropping out the frame properly and converting and couldn't understand why my negatives come out all blue. Solid explanation, thank you!
Is there a way to use Negative Lab Pro to convert images and have film borders around the image still?
Answering my own question from one year ago - of course, there is a way! Just crop images before conversion properly, do all the Negative Lab things, and change cropping back again.
do i need to white balance in lr my negative in the newest version ?
can u make an updated video for the current version?
Ditto, many of the settings do not apply to the current version.
i still need help setting my negative lab pro up to light room i dont know how to set this difficult shit up
Thanks for the video! I was wondering if you followed the same steps for slide film or if you did anything different ?
what scanner do you use?
how did you pull up negative lab in light room...
when you white balance you said you would not go past 2400, why is that? If I can't WB off the film mask why can't I opt for daylight setting instead of auto
? the negative is a "sunny 16" type of image.
Does NLP have film profiles like SilverFast or Vuescan.
Good info, indeed. Thanks!
I scan with silverfast and im just starting to learn more about negative lab pro. Then thing i am most confused with, is what (if any) is the benefit in converting the negative to a positive yourself? by that i mean, with silverfast the negative is scanned and converted automatically, so would there be a noticable difference with doing it yourself with negative lab?
The main reason is for people that are "scanning" their negatives with a DSLR camera, where you photograph the negative and you have a RAW file that has to be converted into a positive, and Silverfast doesn't work with regular images from this method, just scanners.
Negative Lab Pro helps to propertly invert the negatives just like Silverfast does, so if you're using a scanner then I don't see much of a reason to use Negative Lab Pro instead of Silverfast.
Good morning, how do I white balance 35mm that I’ve scanned on an epson if I have no area to white balance the film?
You would have to untick the box in Epson Scan 2 that automatically detects your frames, so you can select them manually and have the borders of your film.
Is it possible to use Negativ Lab Pro in Photoshop? I would love to try it out.
I am running into a problem where I white balance off the white masking. It turns the photo a little orange and when I run the plug-in it only dulls the orange and lowers highlights.
What do I do?
Chris Brown - You need to hit the “Convert Negative(s)” button.
@@NatePhotographic Unless there is a second button hiding somewhere I did. I checked my masking to make sure nothing was causing an issue and made sure to white balance the photos. I also re-scanned the photos.
@@ChrisBraw There are two buttons. There is an "Apply" button AND a "Convert Negative" button. Based on your description, I'm guessing you hit the "apply" button.
Hey Nate, in some of your earlier videos, you talk about changing the profile in LR from Adobe Color to Negative Lab. On the trial version I didn't see this feature available, and you don't mention it here. I noticed this video contains edits in both profiles. Is this something we need to do? Thanks for creating this.
Chris - when you first pull up Negative Lab Pro, it now automatically sets up the Negative Lab profile for you (on RAW DLSR scans -- regular scans will not have a camera profile associated with them since you cannot have dcp profiles for non-camera files). The latest version has been upgrade to have Negative Lab Pro set the preset settings for you dynamics - no need to hit a preset. This saves time and allows it to adjust internal calibrations that get it closer to the emulations than was possible with the presets. When you pull up Negative Lab Pro on an image, you should see the Adobe Standard or Adobe Color profile change to Negative Lab automatically (there was a bug in versions before v1.1.4 where it would sometimes not update the displayed profile, even though the profile was correctly being changed in the background, which is what you see happening in this video)
@@NatePhotographic awesome. Thanks!!
I want to try this but dont currently own a macro lens for fuji. Anyone tried using with a wide angle lens like the 16mm 1.4 that i can get pretty close with?
There's a free trial, so you can try it! That said, I'm not sure sure you will be able to fill your frame with a 16mm lens (especially if shooting 35mm film - you may be able to get almost there with 120 film or larger)
Thanks Dude!
Hey Nate!
I downloaded, installed and I'm very pleased with the results. Have you done any 4x5 DSLR scanning? Currently that is what I am trying to do and just seeing if anyone was a solid workflow for the DIY method and not scanning.
Hi! So glad you are pleased! I haven't personally done any 4x5 scanning but I'm sure there are some in the community who have! Check out the "Negative Lab Pro Users" private facebook group, and I'm sure someone else has some tips!
i think i have installed it right but when I press convert, the green bar goes across but nothing changes
If using Lightroom 6, make sure you have updated to the most recent release of LR 6 (some early version had bug with SDK). Also, make sure to turn off "Use Graphics Processor" in LR preferences (there is still a bug in with this that impacts SDK). One of these two things should fix it!
What about if the negative has been already converted in positive as happens in most of film scanners?
If you want to use Negative Lab Pro with scans from film scanners, you need to set the scan mode to "positive" so that it does not try to invert the image for you. Then use Negative Lab Pro to invert and edit the image. I'm also working on a separate video for working with various film scanners, along with some changes to how NLP works with these files.
Nate Photographic what about positives slides, that are already positive in the film?
Would this recognise my Nikon d5500?
I use a D5300. Works great.
Great video! But can't we just invert colors in Photoshop?
Hi! Is cropping the entire mask before converting still mandatory in version 2.1? Cheers
Hi! As of v2, you can leave some film border and have the “border buffer” control set to ignore the border area during conversion.
Awesome! How come some people leave thumbs down??
Geez, "I'm gonna pull up Negative Lab Pro" and boom it's up - NO INFO ON HOW TO PULL IT UP!!
Hi - on a Mac, just hit "control + N" to bring up Negative Lab Pro. On Windows, you can either go to "file > plugin extras > Negative Lab Pro" or follow the instructions here (www.negativelabpro.com/guide/installing/#windows-hotkey-installation) to install and use the Windows hotkey shortcut. Hope that helps! -Nate
WHY DOES EVERYONE USE LIGHTROOM CLASSIC IM SO FUCKING TIRED OF ZERO GUIDES BEING AVAILBLE FOR "NORMAL" LIGHTROOM
“Normal” Lightroom is Lightroom classic, the original.