PROS Know This About COLOR GRADING, Beginners DON'T
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- PROS Know This About COLOR GRADING, Beginners DON'T
Color Grading, it’s not just something you do in the Color Grading Panel in Lightroom. In this video I'll show you different color grading techniques that you should be using, some which might surprise you, achieving enhanced light and a more dynamic result.
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I love the way you deseturate the image to add it in the color crading tool afterwards. What a great idea! Love it!
You have a great sense of color in mind! I wish I could visualize it like you!
Regards Stefan
Hi Stefan, it’s a neat little trick. Handy when you want to eliminate some of the colours you may not like.
Thank you, Mark, another great tutorial. Love the shot!
Hi Alice, thanks so much for the feedback. I really appreciate your time and compliment on the shot.
Very helpful and informative! Thank you so much Mark! God bless you and good luck!
I really appreciate that thank you. Thanks for watching and for the support.
@@MarkDumbleton Great pleasure! You're very welcome!
Extremely useful, professional and artistic. You nailed the water drop!!! ... ... and this is called attention to smallest details!!! Loved every bit of it!!! Thanx! ♥
Thanks so much for that. I really appreciate the feedback and happy I can deliver something you think is useful.
Demonstration purpose
Beautiful editing!
Thanks so much! Thanks for watching!
Great Lightroom Tutorial Mark. Well done.
Thanks mate! Appreciate it!
Hi Mark. Another great video. It follows nicely from your video on colour-grading last October. I am now going to have to watch them in sequence to ensure I understand your process.🦁
Thanks so much Garnet! Appreciate the feedback, and thanks for the preset sale 🙏🏻 please do ask if you have any questions.
So useful Mark. Thanks for uploading this fellah.
Thanks for letting me know Gary. Appreciate the comment and thanks for watching.
Wow! You've taken this to a whole other level! Thanks for the video.
Thanks so much for watching and for the comment. Appreciate it and I hope you found value in the video 😊
These 10 min were well invested ! Thanks for sharing !
So happy to hear that, thanks for devoting your time to watching my video, it means a lot! Thank you for the comment 🙏🏻
Amazing video, very helpful. Thank you 😃🙏
Thanks so much Josh, appreciate the comment! Thanks for watching!
very useful tutorial, something that I do myself when editing landscapes. The tutorial confirms that I am on the right path and following the lead of Mr. Dumbleton :-)
Thanks so much Muji! I appreciate the feedback and yes, this method works well for landscape too 😊
Watching this video allowed me to slide the clarity slider to the right. Great descriptions of each effect and desired modulation.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and thanks for watching!
Sparked a few ideas watching your video. Thank you for taking the time to explain everything in detail and your thoughts.
Hi Sean, thanks for the comment. Glad the video sparked some ideas for you. I always find it super interesting watching how people edit, there are a trillion different ways to go about things.
Fantastic edits and composition. Even as a pro photographer, I learned something new. Cheers for sharing mate.
Thank you for the feedback, and I’m super happy to hear you learned something. Thanks so much for watching!
@@MarkDumbleton Sure mate. Had to subscribed as well. Cheers.
Thanks so much for subscribing 🙏🏻
I just subscribed first time I’ve seen you in a word fantastic. Look forward to seeing more🎉
Thanks so much for subscribing 😊 appreciate the follow and hope to share more valuable info you find helpful.
Nice work and thanks for sharing. BTW, where do your color swatches come from in ytour overlay image?
Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching. I simply used a rectangle shape in Canva, and chose colours from the actual image to create the swatches.
Brilliant👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks so much Nigel! I appreciate the comment and thanks so much for watching!
Looks flawless
Appreciate it a lot thank you! 😊
Excellent work Mark ... I just found you 😀👍
Thanks so much! Nice to meet you 😊 I hope to bring you more content you like in the future.
Wow, great video
Thanks so much! I appreciate that a lot!
Hi Mark.... need to watch your color-grading again.... all of them. I am struggling with them .... especially the blue...... suppose its a case of doing it over and over again to get to know what looks right!!!!
Hi Carol, practice does make perfect, don’t be afraid to experiment as well, but going through my colour grading videos again should certainly help.
You're great teacher :)
Thank you so much! I really appreciate that!
very nice video. Thanks.
Hi @hlpvinod thanks so much for watching and for the comment.
Great video, thanks
Hi Willy, thanks so much for the comment. Thanks for watching. Hope you found some value in it 😊
Very nice.
Thanks so much! Appreciate the comment.
Really nice work! Thank you for the video!
I only do not understand why in the first part you increase both saturation and vividness and then in HSL you desaturate all the image? Shouldn’t be more effective to only de-saturate the single tones?
To be honest, I play around with a lot of sliders early on, sometimes adding saturation and taking it away later on. Editing is a balancing act and I often find myself doing things that are difficult to explain such as adding saturation and taking it away. I never really know exactly what to do to an image when I start and adjusting sliders and creating different effects helps me find direction with the edit. Hope that answers your question 😊 thanks for watching!
great tips SUBSCRIBED!!
Thank you so much 😊 appreciate it!
That was an awesome edit. I noticed a little banding being introduced in the sky near the end. Was it still there in your final edit?
Thanks so much. That banding was only because of the video compression when uploading to TH-cam. No banding on the actual edit. Thanks so much for watching!
@MarkDumbleton That’s great thanks for that.
Very nice process. Is there a best practice as to when to apply sharpening? I have seen videos where the presenter suggests doing it as a last step.
Hi Martin, thanks so much for watching. If you’re applying sharpening in Lightroom only, sharpen at anytime. If you open the image into Photoshop as a non-raw file, ie jpg or tiff, then apply sharpening only as the last step. Sharpening adds very fine contrast to your image, and you don’t want to add to that sharpening by making other adjustments.
Really enjoying your tutorials Mark. I use Camera Raw for my editing so my question is are there any differences between using Camera Raw versus Lightroom?
Hi Kathy, thanks so much for the message. There is no difference to the way Lightroom and Camera Raw work, it’s only the interface that is different. The processing engines are identical 😊
Natural complementary color there!
Absolutely, love the cool / warm contrast. Thanks for the comment bud!
Thank you
My pleasure! Thanks for watching.
Gracias
Thank you for watching!
I enjoyed watching your video. I’m interested in watching more of your videos. I hope you don’t mind me suggesting this, given you do these videos for free, but could you explain more of they “why” you are doing things. The “how”‘and “what” are all good, but I am particularly interested in why you are doing certain things. Thanks and well done
Thanks for the comment Andrew. I’ll definitely give more consideration to the “why”. In my head it makes sense to do what I do to an image, but to explain why can sometimes be tricky, but as a viewer, knowing “why” is gold! I’ll be sure to focus more on the “why”. 😊👍🏻
@@MarkDumbleton Thanks, Mark. Your new subscriber. 👌
I really appreciate that!
i might be wrong but you sound SouthAfrican, or at least Southern African, and for that i will give this video a like. me supporting local content 😅.
jokes aside, i literally started using Lightroom today and the knowledge you parted will act as building blocks to in my photography journey.
Hi Ken, I am indeed from South Africa 🇿🇦 please do reply if you have any questions about Lightroom. It’s an amazing editing tool!
I recommend image enhance in the last step since it makes larger file size and will eventually make the grading adjustments slower..
Thanks for that tip. That will definitely help!
Invaluable information! People pay thousands of dollars and years experience to learn these techniques. Awesome job Mark!
I really appreciate that! I’m glad you found the info invaluable! 🙏🏻
Really like the raw.
Thank you for the comment!
How, other than time, did you come to pick up on all of these personal preference editing technique's. For instance choosing to flatten the image at the beginning and reduce purple and magenta in wildlife, and figure out that sharpness masking overlay. I have sort of just started with lightroom (haven't used lightroom clasic) and wildlife photography around 6-7 months ago and have down it casually as a hobby but have never gotten into the editing side of things.
So in this regard I'm just curious how you picked up on all of this. This includes other's who have their own tips and tricks for editing as well. I just want more exposure to niche wildlife editing techniques and I'm amazed by all of the little things that add up.
Hi, thanks for the comment. It all comes down to experimenting. I enjoy the editing process and when I have time to mess around in Lightroom, I try different things, try different slider combinations etc. I’ve been doing photography since 2007 and I can’t even guess as to how many photos I’ve edited, but through all of that editing time you develop little tricks and nuances that you like to do to photos. I have learnt a lot from others as well, taking little tips and techniques and tweaking them into my own style. The main thing for me is to always keep an open mind to anything, there is always something to learn. But my main advice is to just experiment, go crazy with sliders and see what they do.
An interesting video, but too complex for me (I believe in the k.i.s.s principle). I do my exposure adjustment in Lightroom Classic, set my WB, then edit in Photoshop for a slight curves adjustment, then very minor hue/sat by eye, then some very minor sharpening (high pass filter, 0.2px). Thank you for taking the time to explain your workflow though!
David, thanks for sharing your workflow. It’s always nice to hear what other people do, and that’s the beauty of editing, there is no right or wrong way! I appreciate the comment 👍🏻
@@MarkDumbleton Exactly. I have just amended my workflow, following watching another person's video on adjusting the exposure. I personally think it's made my images look a LOT better than they did before. I have also started adjusting WB following Jan Wegerner's recent video advice, and I'm finding that doing so seems to make an image look sharper (I think it's a trick of the WB affecting line contrast in the image, given higher apparent sharpness). Both amendments to my workflow are making me very happy at the moment.
Where I am falling down is adjusting contrast. My eyes tend to naturally prefer a lighter contrast, more "natural" looking and more "pastel" in nature, wherreas most others seem to prefer more contrast than what I typically use in my images. Isn't the eye and brain weird?
I've only been at birding photography for ~17 months now, but have come a long way I think. Still much to learn and my self-identified areas of weakness are:
1. getting images of the birds, especially raptors in flight, front lit in warm light (avoiding back lit conditions and overcast conditions)
2. getting the bird large enough in the frame to avoid cropping (I am using a R3 and finding that 24mp, whilst enough for a full frame image, hurts me when cropping). I went with the R3 because the R5 has some serious rolling shutter and EVF blackout issues, both of which would drive me insane.
3. getting close enough to the bird, especially smaller songbirds, without spooking them. Kind of related to pont 2 above, although ponit 2 refers more to raptors in flight from my personal perspective.
4. sharpness/AF accuracy. I am finding a very low keeper ratio for my R3 - typically around 10% for BIFs, even when they are larger in the frame. I suspect that this is due partly to myself using a 1.4x TC for 700mm focal length, and the fact that I am using a 1st generation EF 500mm f4 prime lens. I am saving for a 2nd generation unit, but I am on a fixed income and it will be quite some time before I'll be able to afford it. I have considered the RF 100-500, but the turn offs for me are the lower f stop, necessitating a higher ISO typically, and the fact that you can't use a TC in the 100-300 range, which is a p.i.t.a imho and terrible design by Canon.
I would never go back to a DSLR - the mirrorless AF is so superiour it isn't funny. Plus, despite my initial misgivings on the EVF, I LOVE the R3 EVF. Big, bright, sharp, no blackout, no lag, just gorgeous. The ability to see the histogram in the viewfinder, and see the exposure changed in real time, are just so massive it isn't funny. I typically use double back button AF. In contrast to the BIFs, I find the AF with the R3 for perched birds very accurate and a high success rate. Duade [Paton] has told me that he struggles with sharp pictures/AF for BIFs with his R5, so perhaps it isn't my self, or my setup, but just the way things are, and I am worrying about non-existent problems.
Thanks for the reply Dave. I’ll go check out Jan’s video about the WB, that sounds super interesting.
banger edit
Thanks so much!
Wow
Thanks for the comment! 🙏🏻
@@MarkDumbleton you explain very clearly. Awesome 👌
Thanks for that, glad my content comes across clearly.
Q: Why not use Calibration at the very start to balance colours and manage the blending of the primary colours before doing more selective, localized colour changes? Maybe it’s just personal preference, it is just something that I was always taught and followed and am curious your personal professional opinion. Thanks!
Hi @brockguntersmith, thanks for the comment. I do sometimes use the calibration at the beginning, but sometimes when I edit and am not sure on the direction I’ll go when editing (mainly experimenting) I’ll use the calibration as a way to fine tune the colours after all the global and local edits have been applied. Also, I might be different to other people, but I often find myself editing in Lightroom in very unconventional ways to what a lot of others describe. My advice would be to use the panels in as many different ways as possible, and figure out little tricks along the way if you can. I enjoy editing and experimenting in Lightroom as I don’t get enough time out in the field to shoot, so I do tend to spend more time editing than others as well.
@@MarkDumbleton Awesome, I appreciate you sharing your thought process so clearly. I think its a good reminder to myself to remember that this is art (and science, but more art) and that I should feel free to experiment more freely and not think so rigidly about just a fixed set of mechanical steps to follow. 👍
@@BrockGunterSmith it took me a while to experiment and think more freely. I think what kept me back is thinking too much about what other people thought. Now I edit for myself, even if I am the only one who likes it. Appreciate the reply 😀
use your eyes the best camera we have. After raw processing use Photoshop much more control.
Thank you for the comment!
Been doing image editing for 30 years, unfortunately today there's too much image editing not enough photography.
Thanks for the comment David. I do agree, I however enjoy the editing process and seeing what creative expressions we can make from an image. I would definitely prefer to rather be taking photos. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
While this is a very detailed video with lots of useful info, in my opinion the final result is not that great. The subject looks drastically different to the point where it could be a whole different species in the same genus. There is not a speck of orange anywhere on that bird in the RAW file and it came out looking like it got a bad tan. I think keeping the green in the background would have helped the subject pop more as well. After the edit, it shares a lot of the same tones as the background. Lightning the eye... why? It's center frame and the deep black grabs the eyes right away. It looks very flat with the mask on it. Noise reduction at the beginning is questionable too as all the editing you did would have introduced more noise, especially playing with colors as much as you did.
Thanks for the comment and for your opinion. Editing is subjective and everyone has different tastes and styles, but I do value your input.
Absolutely and it's your own work so if your happy with it than nothing else really matters. Photography is art and editing is a part of the process.
You're right: as a beginner I don't know what you are doing. You're very first step 0:17 isn't clarified here, you don't describe how to find this setting, what it is, or where to find it.
My Lightroom shows a different Basic Color panel than what is shown here.
I have no "Adobe Color". Just "Color". With the choices of "Basic" Artistic, Modern, Vintage, B&W....
What version of Lightroom are you using?
great edit but I don't think you need to go through all that work to achieve that look. I think you could do it much quicker if you did it a different way.
Thanks for the comment. I would love to hear how you would do it differently. Always keen to learn.
@@MarkDumbleton I like to take out the shadows and lower the highlights and then deepen and lighten the blacks and whites tremendously and then it gives that beautiful color and then you can go and change the HSL but I do not think you need to put the colors up and down that much I think if you do the first step you could just move the hsl a little and receive the same result. You might have to unsaturated it and will have to do the mask still but I think it will be quicker. i'd love to see the result of that on this photo and see if it works how I think it will.
1:56 ancient way of doing masks man, I wouldn't do that, at least make it deselect the water area darkening the bird only
Thanks for the feedback on the masks.
Too much processing for a nature shot. The raw file was really nice…. It just needed a little tweak….
Thanks for your opinion and thanks for watching.
My head ached after all this!
waste of time..idiots .. stupid old men spoiling time of others
I wouldve went a completely different route. While I agree and disagree with this comment, I think leaving the background the color it is originally would probably be better since it would, make the bird stand out instead of blend in with the bg
Always give photos your style otherwise u'll never stand out
PROS know WHAT about COLOR GRADING that beginners don’t?? Your video has NOTHING to do with your title.
It’s about the fact that there is more to colour grading than just using the colour grading panel.
Too complicated for me!
Thank you for the feedback.
Sorry, you are telling all the time WHAT you are doing but never WHY you are doing it. This is not so helpful. Pulling the black slider uo to that scale has a massive impact on the image. Doing this without letting us know your intention is at least confusing.
Hi @uwetrenkner9716. Thanks for the comment. I guess sometimes I miss out on explaining everything I do, to keep the video shorter. To explain the use of the black slider, I use it a lot to open up the blacks. And by that I mean when raising the black slider, it pushes the dark points of the image into more of a dark grey. This is just my personal preference because I don’t like having pure blacks in my image. Opening up the black slider gives the shadows a more softer appearance which I quite like. I prefer raising the blacks rather than the shadows, because if I just used the shadows, that pure black will still largely remain in the image. If you have any more questions, I am more than happy to explain 😊 Thank you for watching and for the critique on the video.
@@MarkDumbleton Thanks for your reply. For me, those slider is way too brutal. If I use it at all, it puts it to values like 3 or 5. To achieve the effect you described, I raise the black value of the gradient curve and shape it until the outcome is right. I am sure you know this method as well. I would be interested to hear WHY you preferred the black slider instead of the gradient curve. As Simon Sinek says - start with why.
I think it’s just personal preference why I choose to use the black slider instead of the tone curve. I must experiment with both ways and see how each slider differently interacts with the image.
Spent more time watching you faff around with brushes, grads, sliders to work the image to death - than the video title. As a photographer, what exactly is it you are "imparting" ? that pro v's beginner is missing, because nothing here went beyond lightroom basic edits? Content != title. "This" what?
Sorry this is negative, but reading a title, I expect to see something that resembles it. Which meant I quickly got frustrated watching yet another "heres my edit" video. Nothing new to see.
Maybe keep to the topic? forget personal edits, just work the colour grading and spend the time explaining your process there? And I say that with both respect and experience.
OTOH - for people new to phogography and lightroom.... it is a good "how I edit" video - but lacks some explanations necessary for a beginner level curve.
I get many questions about how to use the Colour Grading panel to colour grade images, and I made this video to explain that there is more to colour grading an image than just using the colour grading panel only.
@@MarkDumbleton Exactly.
Basic Panel. HSL. Callibration. Tone curve. Colour Grading.
The point I'm making is that in order to give a succinct and targeted "Colour Grading" overview you should work on a final version image rather than starting from scratch, as the time spent "add a little highlight with a brush here and there" is NOT grading. It's personal editing to a subjective taste.
E.g in grading for video, grading is the last stage of the workflow, it is so important that you don't want to be distracted with minutia details.
This, for photography, becomes more evident when you are grading a series of images (much more so for a client), the last thing you want is to be distracted by fiddling and tweeking when you are trying to pull a body of work together visually.
I'm just suggesting you concentrate rather than dilute your informative content!
From a content creation perspective, you then have much more refined content, and more room to cover related/ancillary topics in other videos.
Thanks, I appreciate your feedback and ideas for future videos.
Complete disorganization. Taking away using one technique and adding back with another. SO many of the panels achieve the same result - there is no need to use them all. Quite the mess.
Thanks for the comment. If you see it that way that’s understandable, however I find each panel has different nuances and I like the way they all work together.
That is too harsh. Correct respectfully. We ain't perfect
Interesting thought @dannir but I actually agree with Mark regarding the nuance of his process. LR and PS have multiple methods of achieving similar results and it’s up to the user to apply those methods as they see fit. I feel that, without any support for your claim, your critique lacks merit.