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Eventually, with enough upgrades, your ground fleet can wipe planetary bases with ease, but this method is decent until then. I prefer using ground fleets as early as possible, feels more like a battle and I hate having to crawl around the planet with signal towers.
Ground fleets are great, but I’ve found that once you have antimatter capsules, they’re mostly good for distracting the small units while you personally annihilate them by ranks. With a couple energy damage upgrades, an antimatter charge will wipe a whole section of base structures in one or two hits and the effect on massed ground units is very satisfying. That said, Nilaus’ method has some distinct benefits: once the landfall base is activated, you don’t actually need to go to each base and can let the BABs set up the attack chains. There may also be a limit to the the level of darkfog you can conveniently take out alone, an issue the landfall base doesn’t share, since its damage scales really well. I’m also very excited to see how this all changes when the updated combat stuff is released: they’ve said they’ll add space stations, so it seems reasonable, especially in combination with the unused slot in Icarus’ ammo UI, that they’ll be adding player-controlled orbital bombardment, or maybe just artillery. Either way, that should change up the strategy for clearing planets
30:00 - U need just 8 shields to protect a planet from Relay Stations - 1 for each polus (but in the middle, so I think it will be 4 in your case) and on the 6 on the equator (each 60 degrees)
Hey did you know that you can use the fleet to destroy the relays in orbit and if you wait long enough all the bases run out of power? Yes the space hives attack, but 9 destroyers can handle any hive wave and you don't have to worry about the ground units if you don't have any buildings. The bases without power don't build new ground units and they don't shoot. You can take them out with personal weapons and precision drones. PS you can't leave the planet without your fleet or turrets set to high air or else new relays come in. PPS I shouldn't have commented before finishing your whole video. Just learned about it after your last ground battle.
I had an enemy base I was farming just run out of power completely, not sure why. I had built all around it to farm yellow strange matter. I have a fair few planets still pulling and using the yellow fuel rods, so I would suggest at least setting up one farm, as opposed to clearing every planet. And if you plan on eventually upgrading to alien facilities, you’ll need to farm a smidge of alien loot too. I now have to find and setup a new one and rank it back up to 30.
Would it be possible to have a blueprint that wraps the entire planet with BABs and Signal Towers, each building the next in sequence, so you don't have to manually chase down every hive? Theoretically it should radiate out from your central location so it wouldn't be at much risk of buildings things only for them to instantly be destroyed.
I wonder if it would be possible to first build a planetary fortress style "enclosure" with a lot of missile turrets, power generators and a single ILS... And then pop a blueprint that would have a combination those self building things (forward analysis base?) and signal towers and something to delay the building like solar panels etc. And then just self build over the entire planet and watch new bases come into range of the freshly built signal towers and get annihilated by the missile fire coming from the fortress... I wonder if that would work or if the fog will just destroy the self-placing buildings and stop the process.
We went from "don't attack the relay" to "attacking relay reveals easy mode". This seems to be a broken game mechanic. Not sure how devs fix without indestructible relays. We do not even need space update as space hives are inert once the relays are all removed. Note you can do this early game on starting system or even starting planet. You just need enough turrets and missiles can deal with the small space hive fleet dispatched (5/hive so max 15). In case of other systems, there is not even a base for the space hive to attack; you just fly to each planet and allow corvettes to remove the relays.
Keep on killing dark fog so they level up, you'll be getting new loot every couple levels or so and you'll get new cool stuff You can hover the relay at the base to see its level and XP
@@DrCwRc yes , this i understand i have planetary base on lvl 21 and the loot is very cool , but there is debris specific for Dark Fog like Matrix and some other stuf looks like satelite or some nano(thing) , where i Can use it ? I have thousands of them
Its a fast way, but by far not the fastest by any means. The fastest is to roll up on every base with a full load of drones and purple plasma ammo and just blast the entire base. Yes it will cost alot of drones, but 1 planet takes 3-5 minutes to clear off 20 bases.
Hi Nilaus, this is extremely minute but can you please refer to your bipolar hub as the dipolar hub? Bipolar refers to the mental illness and dipolar refers to something with 2 poles. Thank you
You are thinking of Bipolar Disorder, bipolar just means "having or relating to two poles." A dipole refers to two equal and opposite charges separated by a distance
Bipolar refers to both. Bipolar means having 2 poles (and pole means a point or axis around which other things are turning). The name of Bipolar Disorder refers to the patient behaving like 2 different people, or having 2 different poles around which their emotions/reactions are based. Or going back and forth between 2 extremes A dipole is 2 oppositely charged points creating an electric or magnetic field. It sounds confusing, because "bipolar" is a Latin loan word and "dipole" is a Greek loan word. The words mean the exact same things in their respective language (e.g. In Greek "dipole" is used to refer to both "bipole" and "dipole" interchangeably). In English, they mean different things, because English is a mess when it comes to loan words.
Eventually the Devs said they will ramp the space battles back up. Lots of folks complained in the beginning so the devil nerfed space battles till they figure out more things
You can use this tactic in mid-game, too (as soon as you have corvettes) - just leave the planet as soon as the relays are destroyed. The punishment fleet would just hover over empty planet for several minutes and return. In the meantime you could clear relays of other planets in the system.
Funnily enough I discovered this recently on my own playthrough, and at first I thought the enemies were bugged - and then I realized they don't have power anymore from the core they dig down to. Walk in the park when landing on high difficulty planets with 20+ bases. :D When I saw your title I was guessing this was going to be it.
@Nilaus Do you use any performance mods? I have 120 fps at the start, but it drops as my factories get bigger and I build on other planets. I now only have ~20 fps, even though I have a good PC (Ryzeb 5950X - Radeon 7900 XT - 32 GB Ram)
I hope your heading towards a big dark-fog science planet blueprint, i think it may come in 2 parts, part1 the battle labs spaced around or close to the equator and power.. requiering a quick run round the planet, or could the battle labs build like dominoes toppling?? part 2 something similar to your existing science world blueprint.. the Big difference being that no need to spend 40 mins-1hour walking round to build as the battle lab drones will take care of business??? well i hope you do the work so i can lift it ;) thanks for all the fun..
Figured this out on accident after your last video since I’ve just now caught up in my current play though, was going to comment this on your next (this) video but I’m happy to see you figured it out on your own 🎉
Great video as always! Auick question since i play on 5/10 difficulty i clear worlds with corvets i find it goes faster than going with fortresses. Does deathworld outpost deal to much damage for pre infinite fighter research?
I'm not as good at this stuff as you are. What do I power my fuel generators on after hydrogen? I'm not ready to aggro the hive yet and have't made my dyson sphere but i'm running low on oil.
Power is always a hassle midgame. Solar panels at the poles or as a ring around the equator are an option. You can also burn coal/graphite in your generators in case you didn't know. Deuterium fuel rods are used by most until they start on their sphere, but that's probably not an option if you're out of hydrogen
Turn your hydrogen to deuterium using Fractionators then use the deuterium to craft deuterium fuel rods And enjoy easy power till the easiest power comes along😊
@@DrCwRc sweet I'll look into that. I was almost completely bingo on iron and copper and had to get the tech to take the other planets in my system. Thats secured now the job is to start making those things.
@@DavidGuild I think what DtWolfwood wanted to say is that it'd be cool if the game would have buildable components that could form a turing-complete system, i.e. a universal computer.
Did they decrease the deuterium production of gas giants? I haven't played in a year or so when storage logistics and proliferators were done... I dont remember gas giants only doing like .04/sec deuterium...
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Eventually, with enough upgrades, your ground fleet can wipe planetary bases with ease, but this method is decent until then. I prefer using ground fleets as early as possible, feels more like a battle and I hate having to crawl around the planet with signal towers.
Ground fleets are great, but I’ve found that once you have antimatter capsules, they’re mostly good for distracting the small units while you personally annihilate them by ranks. With a couple energy damage upgrades, an antimatter charge will wipe a whole section of base structures in one or two hits and the effect on massed ground units is very satisfying. That said, Nilaus’ method has some distinct benefits: once the landfall base is activated, you don’t actually need to go to each base and can let the BABs set up the attack chains. There may also be a limit to the the level of darkfog you can conveniently take out alone, an issue the landfall base doesn’t share, since its damage scales really well. I’m also very excited to see how this all changes when the updated combat stuff is released: they’ve said they’ll add space stations, so it seems reasonable, especially in combination with the unused slot in Icarus’ ammo UI, that they’ll be adding player-controlled orbital bombardment, or maybe just artillery. Either way, that should change up the strategy for clearing planets
Glad you are keeping up on this game and it's progress. I had a fun vacation this holiday playing this game. Thanks!
30:00 - U need just 8 shields to protect a planet from Relay Stations - 1 for each polus (but in the middle, so I think it will be 4 in your case) and on the 6 on the equator (each 60 degrees)
5 around the equator works too I think
Hey did you know that you can use the fleet to destroy the relays in orbit and if you wait long enough all the bases run out of power? Yes the space hives attack, but 9 destroyers can handle any hive wave and you don't have to worry about the ground units if you don't have any buildings.
The bases without power don't build new ground units and they don't shoot. You can take them out with personal weapons and precision drones.
PS you can't leave the planet without your fleet or turrets set to high air or else new relays come in.
PPS I shouldn't have commented before finishing your whole video. Just learned about it after your last ground battle.
Good stuff as usual Nilaus. A bit of a translation issue with "excruciatingly" I think lol.
Its excruciating for the dark fog ;)
I had an enemy base I was farming just run out of power completely, not sure why. I had built all around it to farm yellow strange matter. I have a fair few planets still pulling and using the yellow fuel rods, so I would suggest at least setting up one farm, as opposed to clearing every planet. And if you plan on eventually upgrading to alien facilities, you’ll need to farm a smidge of alien loot too. I now have to find and setup a new one and rank it back up to 30.
I would have loved to have your planet full of enemy bases. You need to a lot of the to farm mats for their technologies later on.
Thank you for the interesting video!
Would it be possible to have a blueprint that wraps the entire planet with BABs and Signal Towers, each building the next in sequence, so you don't have to manually chase down every hive? Theoretically it should radiate out from your central location so it wouldn't be at much risk of buildings things only for them to instantly be destroyed.
Yes you could. Only problem i see is you could end up agroing several bases at once and pulling more than your missiles can destroy.
@@merendellor depending on the order they are built some get built too soon without power and get destroyed...
Proliferated rockets and solar sails shoot with double the speed^^
Can you actually “starve” the hives in your home system? Aren’t they siphoning power from your solar sails?
I wonder if it would be possible to first build a planetary fortress style "enclosure" with a lot of missile turrets, power generators and a single ILS... And then pop a blueprint that would have a combination those self building things (forward analysis base?) and signal towers and something to delay the building like solar panels etc. And then just self build over the entire planet and watch new bases come into range of the freshly built signal towers and get annihilated by the missile fire coming from the fortress... I wonder if that would work or if the fog will just destroy the self-placing buildings and stop the process.
WOW how many hours to get this Strong?
In the polar build, what is the point of the ring of yellow science? I cant figure out any reason for it.
Aesthetics
We went from "don't attack the relay" to "attacking relay reveals easy mode". This seems to be a broken game mechanic. Not sure how devs fix without indestructible relays. We do not even need space update as space hives are inert once the relays are all removed. Note you can do this early game on starting system or even starting planet. You just need enough turrets and missiles can deal with the small space hive fleet dispatched (5/hive so max 15). In case of other systems, there is not even a base for the space hive to attack; you just fly to each planet and allow corvettes to remove the relays.
I have the strong urge to create a patreon account with a questionable name just to mess with nilaus
Maybe stupid question , but how can i use debris from dark fog ? For example matrix from dark fog.
Keep on killing dark fog so they level up, you'll be getting new loot every couple levels or so and you'll get new cool stuff
You can hover the relay at the base to see its level and XP
@@DrCwRc yes , this i understand i have planetary base on lvl 21 and the loot is very cool , but there is debris specific for Dark Fog like Matrix and some other stuf looks like satelite or some nano(thing) , where i Can use it ? I have thousands of them
Its a fast way, but by far not the fastest by any means. The fastest is to roll up on every base with a full load of drones and purple plasma ammo and just blast the entire base. Yes it will cost alot of drones, but 1 planet takes 3-5 minutes to clear off 20 bases.
Hi Nilaus, this is extremely minute but can you please refer to your bipolar hub as the dipolar hub? Bipolar refers to the mental illness and dipolar refers to something with 2 poles. Thank you
You are thinking of Bipolar Disorder, bipolar just means "having or relating to two poles." A dipole refers to two equal and opposite charges separated by a distance
@@salempeterson300 hmm now that I think about it i think you're right
Bipolar refers to both. Bipolar means having 2 poles (and pole means a point or axis around which other things are turning). The name of Bipolar Disorder refers to the patient behaving like 2 different people, or having 2 different poles around which their emotions/reactions are based. Or going back and forth between 2 extremes
A dipole is 2 oppositely charged points creating an electric or magnetic field.
It sounds confusing, because "bipolar" is a Latin loan word and "dipole" is a Greek loan word. The words mean the exact same things in their respective language (e.g. In Greek "dipole" is used to refer to both "bipole" and "dipole" interchangeably). In English, they mean different things, because English is a mess when it comes to loan words.
Eventually the Devs said they will ramp the space battles back up. Lots of folks complained in the beginning so the devil nerfed space battles till they figure out more things
You can use this tactic in mid-game, too (as soon as you have corvettes) - just leave the planet as soon as the relays are destroyed. The punishment fleet would just hover over empty planet for several minutes and return. In the meantime you could clear relays of other planets in the system.
Funnily enough I discovered this recently on my own playthrough, and at first I thought the enemies were bugged - and then I realized they don't have power anymore from the core they dig down to. Walk in the park when landing on high difficulty planets with 20+ bases. :D When I saw your title I was guessing this was going to be it.
Self expanding blueprint for cleaning planets ?
@Nilaus Do you use any performance mods? I have 120 fps at the start, but it drops as my factories get bigger and I build on other planets. I now only have ~20 fps, even though I have a good PC (Ryzeb 5950X - Radeon 7900 XT - 32 GB Ram)
Why not include Cammand posts in the planet blueprint?
The building with the extra drones
I hope your heading towards a big dark-fog science planet blueprint, i think it may come in 2 parts, part1 the battle labs spaced around or close to the equator and power.. requiering a quick run round the planet, or could the battle labs build like dominoes toppling??
part 2 something similar to your existing science world blueprint.. the Big difference being that no need to spend 40 mins-1hour walking round to build as the battle lab drones will take care of business??? well i hope you do the work so i can lift it ;) thanks for all the fun..
Figured this out on accident after your last video since I’ve just now caught up in my current play though, was going to comment this on your next (this) video but I’m happy to see you figured it out on your own 🎉
Great video as always!
Auick question since i play on 5/10 difficulty i clear worlds with corvets i find it goes faster than going with fortresses. Does deathworld outpost deal to much damage for pre infinite fighter research?
What Dyson sphere blueprint is this? I couldn’t find it.
Did you ever find it? I'm looking for it now. :/
Hopefully with the next update you can clear out planets from orbit once your tech level is high enough, after all they can do it to you
Yeah there’s a lot of potential for better integration between space and ground combat
I'm not as good at this stuff as you are. What do I power my fuel generators on after hydrogen? I'm not ready to aggro the hive yet and have't made my dyson sphere but i'm running low on oil.
Power is always a hassle midgame. Solar panels at the poles or as a ring around the equator are an option. You can also burn coal/graphite in your generators in case you didn't know. Deuterium fuel rods are used by most until they start on their sphere, but that's probably not an option if you're out of hydrogen
Turn your hydrogen to deuterium using Fractionators
then use the deuterium to craft deuterium fuel rods
And enjoy easy power till the easiest power comes along😊
@@DrCwRc sweet I'll look into that. I was almost completely bingo on iron and copper and had to get the tech to take the other planets in my system. Thats secured now the job is to start making those things.
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Question is will DSP add von neumann machines? Would be crazy if they manage to implement it.
What do you think the player is?
Dark fog is one too
@@DavidGuild I think what DtWolfwood wanted to say is that it'd be cool if the game would have buildable components that could form a turing-complete system, i.e. a universal computer.
Did they decrease the deuterium production of gas giants? I haven't played in a year or so when storage logistics and proliferators were done... I dont remember gas giants only doing like .04/sec deuterium...
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