Dagger Duchess counters SWARM + TANK
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ค. 2024
- Dagger Duchess gameplay with @clashwithshane just causally playing swarm/bait, cycle, beatdown to show the new Legendary Tower Troop mechanics and her reload attack speeds. As long as she has ammo, she does a REALLY good job countering bait/swarm cards, and a SINGLE tank. But her ammo is easily baited out with Bats or Ice Golem.
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She goes from princess on steroids to cannoneer on diet
Underrated
😂
So real
lmao
Dont Call Her Princess!
I noticed that the regeneration time (1.2 seconds per dagger) is applied only when she stops attacking, so a really interesting buff would be to apply it while she's attacking, this effectively regenerates up to 2.3 daggers by the time she goes from full ammo to none because 8 daggers x 0.35 attack speed turns out to be 2.8 seconds of total attacking time.
This would definitely be a good change, because she seems a little bit weak
@@kanegd2990 certainly, it seems trivial to exploit her atm.
Although nice, this benefits her more when she’s already at full ammo. I think a more universal buff to her would be to just make the daggers each regenerate 0.2 secs faster
I was thinking either this or to reload all her daggers at once but said reload is slower than the current one
Yh I agree she should always be regenerating daggers. Also I think she needs a faster reload time. Instead of 1.2 maybe 1.1 or 1.0
She goes from
Cannoneer with princess attack speed to
Princess with cannoneer attack speed
Yup
Very smart of supercell to introduce a tower troop that gets dicked by bridge spam in the same update that we get the evolved battle ram lmao
canoneer when they bring in a second evolution slot to further encourage spam
She murders every initial attack. So she blocks every lane switch and bridge spam.
@@jfh667is she good against cycle
@@1mol831 More like completely shuts them down.
She was made to counter small hp cards but she actually gets countered by them when in large quantities 😂😂
‘Congratulations, you played yourself’
Princess also get counter with large quantities, i dont see the problem. Ohh yea also dagger duchess and princess are completely DIFFERENT PLAYSTYLE OMGGGGGS
It's not about small or big troops, it's about small or big pushes. She's good vs small pushes and bad vs big ones
Supercell says getting her is not a joke, but it looks like she is a joke, bait decks will definitely be a strong pick against her, or pretty much anything that could make her spend all of those daggers
Yes fr
Not even just bait decks, she already uses so much daggers on one single card like a knight, hog, or any tank
She needs a slightly higher base attack speed. That way when she is out of daggers she is not totally useless. As she is right now, she is only useful against single troops sent in alone.
Pretty sure she's a joke (she is releasing on april 1st..)
Bridge spam💀
It's a bit weird because it feels like she has almost the exact same weakness as cannoner that being fast pace decks but at the same time she can't deal with big pushes
Cannoneer's weakness is simply swarm. He usually holds off better than the princess against big pushes as long as there's no bats or goblin barrel to distract him.
honesttly shes gonna be really bad against goblin drill, battle ram, and shes gonna be horrific in 3x, ramp up, and 7x elixir
Yeah supercell has completely given up on being intelligent in the slightest
And shes literally the legendary tower troop
@@oreos2653 that's what I'm saying!
??? You're acting as if like princess or cannoner do good at defending by themselves in 3x, much less in ramp up and 7x.
Complaining about something because it’s not overpowered and broken? You guys must be whales
i really think they just should've done something like multi archer tower from clash of clans where she shoots 3 (or even 2) daggers at two different opponents but if there is just one, she focuses all attacks on that one opponent (exactly like the electro wizard attack now I'm realizing)
Probably some splash damage also
Like wiz tower
Or Just Increase The Range Of Towers But Speed Decrease
That Would Be Good
2:10 Oj's face tells you everything
To make her decent i think the opponent should not be able to see the bar because that give a big advantage to the opponent, it's like showing the cooldown speed of the cannoneer
that's a neat point, it would make people calculate/predict those timings.
@@southerncyan4098 still, the tower would be very underwhelming against spam, no need to count if its always low
its like being able to see oponents elixir damn
@@emreuncu4957 wtf fr
It really isn't hard to determine whether or not she is running out of daggers. In the end, the most common strategy to counter her is to simply spam troops anyway so there's not much difference on whether we can see the bar or not.
Honestly she seems like the weakest Tower Troop, either her reload needs to be faster or she has more ammo, then I think she'll be on par with the other two tower troops.
It does need to be broken or even good, unless everyone has it, it would be super p2w if it was
I agree, i think of she was still able to fire consistently but slower when out of bat might help or they're dedicated to keeping her speed
They should increase her dagger limit from 8 to 12 or smn and reduce reloading time from 1.2 sec to 0.8
weakest would be a overstatement
I personally think they should make it so she keeps a slower attack speed while recharging but throwing daggers while recharging doesn’t take any daggers
10:08 “Both towers are down!”
Boy, I would sure love to hear this without context
Oh you're brutal 😂
Imagine if this was at 9:11 💀💀
I think she doesnt seem too unbalanced, just maybe a bit underpowered. I think just increasing her max ammo to 10 or 12 would go a long way
Bring back its a orange juice intro
Agree
He said no
🫡
Carry on my comment guys SPAM HIM!!!!
Yes🎉
0:01 You know who else-
I do too
💀
2 elixer gone😀
Unfunny
@@elegalrupzz hilarious
so after some detailed reearch i consider princess tower thankyou
"No one runs golem in 2024"
Wow OJ I'm offended ;-; my Golem deck is offended.
i agree it's much much more confusing having to deal with the dagger bar in both sides
I think this will be like cannoneer. She’ll be underpowered on release but will eventually get buffed to a good spot.
Or it’s a april 1 joke and they will release a diffrent towertroop.
They should of done something with her that's similar to the Little Princes fire rate charge up but resets after retargeting so that she is slightly more vulnerable to swarms but more potent against tanks. The reload mechanic just leaves her way too vulnerable for her to be comp I think.
I think they should slightly buff the amo regen, or amount of amo, or both. Otherwise she won't be viable almost at all.
She has only like 10% lower dps than princess tower. The only buff possible is just max dagger increase so she can kill tank with more ammo to spare
Yeah they need to increase ammo to 9 or 10 imo
Oj: Surprisingly the numbers feel balanced.
Balance changes and 10x value: allow us to introduce ourselves
Basically this is an indirect buff for the pekka bridge spam
They seem to forget that the one facing this card is a human with eyes and a brain. The human understands that she is good vs small pushes and bad vs big ones, therefore they'll never send small pushes, therefore the card is shit and feels bad to play all the time.
Maybe you could make it so that the duchess regenerates 1 dagger every kill, so for example she would be good against skarmy, but the same as now against tanks. This may be a little op, but it would be more biased towards the idea of her countering swarms.
That makes sense but yeah too op. I mean yeah she struggles against bigger tanks after draining so there's a benefit to running tanks, and then it wouldn't be as detrimental to face swarms when that's the whole point of the card. I could see this not helping much against pekka bridgespam though cause the fireballies take so many daggers to kill still.
Maybe regens 1/2-4 as to maintain a sense of vulnerability against larger troops.
I love that with every tower troop they release they make the princess look more useful
April 1st,somethings up
True, don't trust that date 😂
This tower troop sounds like a worst joke of the year already
@@crazyylifethe whole game is a joke
While battle ram is the best lmfao
@@TheeOnlyStolas i agree that's why i am never coming back to this shitty game
She is gonna be really good in poison cycle
What if instead, she could recharged the entire bar instantly but there’s a pause between each recharge 🤔 at the very least, it would avoid making her feel like a weaker cannonier
I think she could actually benefit a lot from a range nerf, since a lot of her daggers just get instantly used up the moment anything crosses the bridge
they managed to make something even worse than cannoneer lmao
I thought they were gonna use the rage spell to see if the ammo comes back faster, that’s what I wanted to see the most, probably doesn’t but maybe it does
She's wild, looks super cool, and I feel like her extra HP and burst damage are gonna be really good in XBow decks
All these updates are just indirect buffs to all Bridge Spams.
With the new Battle Ram evolution, Zap Evolution, Buff to Pekka and now this.....
Pekka Bridge Spam is going to crazy..
It isnt cause nobody is using this
The meta is not yet here lol. This evo is next season, in a day and a half@@freezeguy1295
@@freezeguy1295 the top 1 Ultimate champion player uses Pekka bridgespam the last time I checked his profile 💀
Pekka bridgespam is definitely the new meta deck once Evo ram rider has been released.
@@noobishnubreal he meant nobody is using dagger tower
Personal opinion, turn it into a burst tower. Shoot all 6 daggers, reload idk let’s say for 3-5 seconds,then she shoots them all again. Would be better but with the drawback she doesn’t shoot constantly
That’s pretty much a cannoneer
That’s literally just Cannoneer with extra steps.
In my opinion, I think it would be better if she had a bit less damage,but no amo (like other towers). Like: she takes 2 shots for a squeleton,but she would take less damages against a skarmy than a princess tower because she is like a gatling
I feel like a cooler concept would be like she has a spread of a firecracker like a spread of daggers but like cannoneer reload speed
That was the original concept, but it got scrapped
It was the original concept but it was too wonky and unpredictable
This seems to fit into the beatdown decks, it is less punishing to ignore an oponents attack and build a push in the other side
Princess is still by far the best option
top 100 players almost all use cannoneer
@@sam_1467fr lol
@@sam_1467That's because their all pay-to-win 😂
@@Nunya58294exactly
Yeah, i'm never using this tower, it's good but suffers similar issues with the cannoneer when it rans out of daggers, which is pretty much always
should be other way around. attacks faster as it keeps attacking to counterract spam. rn it is literally the opposite of what you want
We shall see
They should make her like a reverse little prince, where she starts off shooting fast and then gets really slow after some amount of shots, but every time she resets (no enemies around) she gains her increased speed back
I’ll stick to the princess
Or cannoner
@@Potato-TheKingno no they said princess
I’ll also STICK on the princess
woah calm down there
@@Naw_ow😃 ... 😦
I feel like they should increase the first ammo recharge, because it is way to easy to bait the ammo out
Oh yeah, of all suggestions i think faster (like 1s. Or 0.8s but lower dmg than PrincessT) reload whenever she has less than 3 ammo would be great
so constant pressure deck is going to reck her, +1 point to brigde spam and cycle decks
All I got from this is cycle decks just getting even stronger
Oj: canoneer shreds tanks
P.E.K.K.A: you dare challenge me
shane plays the weirdest decks every time
He is weird.
I feel like because she IS a Legendary she should be able to unleash 10 daggers instead of 8 with a 1sec/1.1sec recharge then I would see it being good.
Funny that no one realises she’s a literal legendary card
Ikr! I’ve seen so many content creators being like “I wonder what rarity she’ll be.” She needs a slight buff is what I think, after all she is a Legendary troop.
Came back to say after playing it, it actually doesn’t feel that bad…
Been waiting for this video
I thought this card would be amazing against swarm but terrible against beefy cards but it seems like that’s not the case. I think it needs a max ammo buff, at least enough to take out a full skarmy
Honestly I would prefer for it to reload all daggers at once for more time than just using one by one when empty.
I think it should recharge faster if not agroed, like Battle Healer heals when not attacking and buff her HP a lot
YES
That's a good idea.
Games done if you get to double elixir vs log bait or any bait deck
Either shorten her reload time, or increase it to maybe 3.2 and make it so after she reloads she gets all 8 of her knives back
Just makes no sense because a Goblin Gang or any other small card can waste her ammo, and then that whole side is vulnerable to any form of rush. It’s almost guaranteed damage if a tank pushes or a hog rider
You need to adapt to get used to dagger duchess or cannoneer. This is not princess tower, so the playstyle will not be the same
For dagger duchess, your gonna need more defensive card beacuse she need to reload her dagger
you're acting like the ability to negate 3 elixir from the enemy is a bad thing, you can counter hog with other things like buildings. imo this deck only works in decks with a building to use both sides to quickly defend a big push
@@calgoulden8223 true, princess and dagger duchess are completely different playstyle, people are so quick to assume its bad
Counters the naked ambushes from control decks. Really interesting.
Seeing Evo battle ram hitting the tower even once is just so satisfying.
Unlimited charged duchess tower will make a crazy mode
Bro should work at supercell
@bingobeego with 4x elixir !
3:14 "I'm gonna completely ignore that"
*proceeds to not completely ignore it*
Are you regarded?
He said zappies, not the royal ghost
@@kyleyuen245 by defending the royal ghost he defended the zappies
@@Gl_3tch no he didn't, he wanted to test dagger duchess against just the tower, when royal ghost came he placed ice golem which tanked the royal ghost and didn't change the interaction with duchess because the zappies already locked on tower.
Just because he placed something doesn't mean he defended it. placing e golem against giant isn't defending it
@@kyleyuen245 first of all, you're example sucks because they can't even target each other, but also, the ice golem pushed the zappie
I think that she’s gonna be amazing in control decks and paired with tornado
All of this Tower Troops made me appreciate the Tower Princess more than ever.
We only got two new TT and the two of them are underwhelming, but at least the Dagger Duchess is not as horrible as the Canonneer is
6 out of 10 top ladder finishes last season used canonneer
Cannoneer is so much better
If she gets raged, does she regenerate her daggers faster? (Just wondering since freeze stops her recharge)
Destroys sudden attacks from the bridge, but can't handle constant pressure. Seems balanced imo.
Except it massively rewards you for constant pushing instead, to the point any deck not meant to constant push is still very rewarded, you need a VERY defensive deck to be able to compensate for that, and all you get is likely 1 or 2 spare elixir for what she can defend compared to someone else
@@monikaisdonewiththeinterne2039 Yes you need a defense heavy deck, in a meta designed for spamming attacks, in a game where it's super easy to counter single cards meaning you need support cards to do a good attack and taking away your entire defensive deck.
The only use case for this tower is xbow and maybe mortar. Or perhaps RG as well, basically defensive siege decks.
Very wholesome character and card!
OJ not used to this makes it funny as hell
looks pretty bad to be honest, people won't use this in it's current state
She should be reworked so that she attacks with the same speed but makes way less dmg per hit with no reload time
That's what I was thinking before it's release low damage with fast speed why would they add a reload time to a tower troop with the current players just spamming everything on the bridge that will just encourage them to spam bridge even more
Man... I wanted to see balloon interactions so bad
they gotta up the daggers from 8 to 10-12, and lower the tower health a bit and lower the dagger recharge or make it 2 seconds to recharge all of them
No they dont
If I were supercell, I'd definitely do a buff with reload times or at least give her more daggers to be more viable in the upcoming battleram meta
Yeah because she isn’t legendary worthy
Of all suggestions i think faster (like 1s. Or 0.8s but lower dmg than PrincessT) reload whenever she has less than 3 ammo would be great
It’s a legendary tower troop. And supercell has removed wild card from token shop BUT the good news is that it’s poop. Just stay with princess tower.
Or cannoner
Its like Supercell tried to mix canoneer with princess making the dagger duchess, although op in concept Its really, really hindering in most situations
Nice
Cant wait to use my lvl 9 tower troops against these lvl 15
"I wanna see tower take "insert random unit" other guy "okay" drops every unit he can to prevent that interaction from happening
they should make her reload faster during double elixir
Very smart suggestion, I agree
supercell never takes suggestions
what if it is 3x elixir ? Your opponent decide to spam and that's how u dead
I think the tower troops could be way better if we had like a standby phase when we load into a match both decks are shown and then we can choose what tower troop we want to bring into that match
For some reason I found that duchess pairs well with classic bridge spam with evo zap or ram but it ain’t available right now for the challenge
Princess tower is still the strongest tower in the game.
The last dagger should do extra damage
I feel like this tower troop needs either a stun effect of .5 when she loses her charge so she still stands a chance, or a bleeding effect to a target after hitting it with 4-5 daggers
Yeah similar to crow it will be better
I think they should increase the amount of daggers at the same time slightly buffing all towers to make up for the power curve we've seen happening over the past year
She needs 10-12 knives and a slightly faster recharge or damage (I'd prefer damage). Conceptwise she's fine but she just drains her ammo too quick
It's so funny looking at all these overanalyzed comments now, when dagger duchess absolutely destroyed the meta
So either a bit faster reload speed or higher max dagger amount
"e-giant + freeze only 15 elixir" quote og
a shame they didnt show what the interactions look like while the duchess is raged - also looks like she is legendary, wonder how hard leveling her will be as a f2p
She is legendary, but it's not too hard to get it maxed with f2p. Only sad thing is that there will no longer be legendary wild cards in season shop.
No legendary wild cards😩😩😩😩😩😩
@@gabi0690Of course they're gonna do that stupid shit 😂 they always gotta take shit away just to force people to spend more $$$$
Barb hut evolution 🔥🔥🔥
Asked nobody else ever lmao
First evolution to reach 0% use rate
If she's buff like her attack pierce 1tile the from the initial target.
Dagger Duchess is basically Canoneer but less vulnerable to swarms
Supercell- we'll give you a crow but worse
i dont really see a benefit to using her. same with the canoneer. princess tower is so far just better. you never know who you face, so having a tower thatcan deal with everything is better than those specialized towers.
The only thing that she has over the other princess towers is that she counters dual sided rushes
But she also is horrid in single side rushes, so I don’t think the pros outweigh the cons
Should control when to be able to use her ammo like an ability
2:18 Poor OJ
This is what ima talking about
She either needs more daggers or a faster recharge speed because the slow fire rate is very oppressive
Yeah, so based on what im seeing, i would probably prioritize running splash cards again and run more tank buster cards as well. They honestly might need to buff her a little bit just because she runs through them so quick.
they should make it so once the ammo bar is empty, it won't attack for let's say 3 or so seconds, and then all the daggers are back. This means that it can balance the swarm out and make the tower more balanced with interactions being consistent. Give a like because I think this is a solid idea for a balance change. And who knows what could happen.
daggers could also regenerate slower if no opposition troop is on their side, in case it regenerates too quickly after a hog push per se.
The tower troop is so bad. It makes swarms and Larry's meta. She runs out so fast and so easily to the point she is just a worser princess tower. Actually it makes ice golem and any mini tank cards meta.