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Another TH-cam reviewer found that while charging in online ups mode, you can still use 240v outlet but it's actually same phase on both hot legs. It actually make sense when they call online ups mode - they possibly have two inverters and runs both all the time. In online ups mode one inverter is always charging the battery, and another one is producing output from the battery instead of pass through. So, with online UPS mode you can't power any 240v appliance but still use it in transfer and limited to 3600w total. Online UPS mode is also useful if anyone wants to top up the battery from their EV's 120v outlet without taking the home offline.
If it's out of phase it's no longer 240v. The manual it says 240v is disabled. What they are doing is powering all outputs in online mode with one side of the inverter. That's why it's limited to 3600w.
I live in Seattle area and was out of power for 4 days last week. This battery seems like the cheapest option right now which provides the full 7200w output to connect to transfer switch or 30A generator inlet and in my research also supports simultaneous charging. Other option is EF Delta Pro Ultra (or two Delta Pro / Delta Pro 3). Delta Pro Ultra supports simultaneous charging while still have 240v on. Why do I need that? I have an EV which can occasionally top up the battery for few hours a day from the car's 120v outlet. EVs sit on a giant battery which can power most homes for a week.
I was also hit by the power outage here for a week. The problem with most EVs in America though is that they don't support V2H (vehicle to home). You also need to have a transfer panel in your home. If your EV has an AC out, it likely is still limited to 1500W. I guess though in a pinch it would be possible (though not so practical) to shuttle power between an EV and Home using a unit like this.
@@calvinl2149 At 1500W, you can still charge a 5kwh battery in 4 hours. If all of your home heating and cooking need is by gas, this should be enough to run house for day. Just to add some data, my EV has a 120v 1500W outlet. I was able to run two refrigerators, gas furnace, tankless heater (gas but still need electricity to run) from my car's 120v outlet. In 24 hours of continuously powering these, it consumed only 10% of the car battery. But it's not whole house and I can't drive the car. With a 240v power station like this, I can power the whole home and still use the car, and only charge the battery at night. I am thinking just to install a generator inlet with interlock - which should be cheaper.
Having the 240 stay on while charging with both 240 and solar is awesome. I have it hooked up to my transfer switch and the generator plugged into the DPU 240 generator charge port. I also have 4000 watts of solar hooked up. Anytime I run short of sun and low on battery I just start my generator and charge at 6000 watts with no interruptions to anything in the house. Awesome set up.
This is my use-case as well. The combination of the Jackery 5000 plus the 70+ kWh in my car should be able to run my house nearly indefinitely (with maybe weekly trips to a fast charger). My car can provide up to 1800 watts continuous and I already have a transfer switch/generator input. To get around the simultaneous charging issue, my plan is to use something like the EG4 Chargeverter to convert the incoming AC from my car to DC and use the Jackery's low voltage DC input. I'll be limited to 21amps (~1000 watts) of charging input, but that should be plenty. The EG4 costs $500 and is very overpowered for this use case, so I'm trying to figure out if there's a decent quality option that can convert the AC to 500-1000 watts of DC output to feed into the Jackery.
@@magellannh645 That's what I am thinking as well - get a dc power supply to simultaneously charge. if you spend $500 more, you can also get Delta Pro Ultra, which already supports simultaneous charging. 1kwh storage extra and higher efficiency inverter (less inverter drain). Delta pro ultra with a single battery is available at $4k right now at wellbots
AWESOME review, but too late, we already ordered TWO units, plus the Smart Panel so we can get a full 240V 60A into our home panel. As noted, we were one of those who ordered for A) the compact form factor and B) for the standard MC4 solar inputs. PLUS, the unit has a built-in solar disconnect switch. I hope that some of the issues cam be worked out with firmware updates. We received our first 5000 Plus today, and are waiting on the second unit as well as the Smart Panel. I’m hoping their referral service for solar-qualified electricians turns out to have merit. In the end, we have been wanting to have some sort of non-gas/propane backup for our home in the country, and could have gone the traditional system route, but at 67, we may not always be in this home, and wanted something that was PORTABLE. Time will tell whether we made the best choice versus Anker and EcoFlow. Thanks again...
Excellent comprehensive review. It's great progress from Jackery but the negatives are glaring and I could not bring myself to buy any of their product except the 290 I brought locally from Harbor Freight. I have the Anker Solix 3800 on my list. It also is not perfect and has a few flaws but not glaring enough to keep me from buying one or two. It does come down to your individual needs and likes. I have a total off grid plan so I would have no need for home backup. Nice flat extension cords that I can cover and replace readily keeps things simple and wonderful. Jackery has not learned much still using barrel plugs; they must have a warehouse full of those things and cannot offload them.
Wow thats way worse than. Anker 3800. Arguably one of teh 3800s only two shortcomings (the other being 240 outlets turned off when changing off grid.) hard to see where this Jackery fist is with completion given these issues and price.
I mean, it takes a lot of power to concurrently run two separate phases that are perfectly 120 degrees out of phase of each other. This isn’t 120v only remember. I would like if Jackery separated the 120v and 240v for better efficiency though.
@@simon359It’s almost like you didn’t watch the video, the maximum for the high voltage side is 4000w and the low voltage side is 1200w. Comparing a SYSTEM “you built yourself” to an all in one production PRODUCT is pretty dumb lmao. It’s really easy to top the specs of many of these power stations on the market with your own purchased hardware. Nobody is impressed dude.
@ i think you are mistaken, this product isn’t designed to be an off-grid power solution. It’s designed to be a home backup system incase of power outages; im sure your system can recharge from solar in a few hours; but remember this Jackery isn’t meant to be an off-grid solution. And because of that, why engineer 100a solar input (which will drive the cost up) when the majority of people that will use this won’t have more than 3000w of solar? From a business perspective it doesn’t make any sense.
@@simon359do you really need to charge up to 100% every day? If charge cycles mess with how long your batteries will last. Maybe your battery would last longer by having a backup system. You use all the available current on the main unit before recharging the main unit, instead of recharging the solar generator when you have only used 30% in over night use of watts. Do you think that would increase how long your solar batteries would last?
The low voltage solar as well as the 12VDC output should have some sort of positive lock connector available like an Anderson or the 12VDC XT connector.
You can get a surge protector put on the power meter outside the house. We rented one from the power company for $10/month. (Only option) They also put one on the internet cable box outside the house next to the meter. That cable is not grounded so lightning could come in and wreck your computer gear-speaking from experience. Even grounded lightning will do what it wants but better than surge protector inside
Can you charge with 120 v while outputting 240 v to the house? Example: The house is 240, in an emergency, it would be running. my small inverter generator would run for some of the day to change this back up. So will it be able to output 240 while being charged with 120? Or does the 240v load need to be turned off while charging from a 120 v generator?
The the 240v will turn off while ac charging but it still puts out 120v bridged on both legs of the 240v plug . Essentially it will still run both legs of your home panel at 120v but you can't run any 240v circuits. To me that's still a win compared to the anker f3800 which just completely shuts off its 240v plug when ac charging.
@@ajfoskett8826actually if you spend another $500 you can get the 240 and the 120 to work at the same time. There is a guy that made a video a month back. He goes by Jasonoid on TH-cam
I also agree the DC8020 ports need to go, and the app needs some work. My 1000 plus will not recalculate the % with 2 packs added on the main screen, and I don't like how the main unit will drop power before draining the add-on packs first, seems backwards. The app connection issues are a problem. The add-on pack cables are also needing some work. Need to offer longer, shorter, and 90 degree options.
Note: Regarding the expansion batteries for the Explorer 5000 Plus not fitting on top of the main unit, I’ve been looking at all the depictions in the Jackery ads, and the batteries are always shown sitting off to the side. May be deliberate for stability of the main unit, which is tall compared to its footprint?
Thanks for your reviews. How would you compare the Jackery 5000 Plus to having two Pecron E3600LFP with connect box to provide 240v for whole house power?
Nice. That could run my AirCon for 1 hour. Tell Jackery they forgot to send me one. Think this would 100% replace my DIY one I use for camping. Wish the plugs had rubber covers, that's one thing my DIY generator has on it. They really do need to make the AC idle eco. It's like they didn't even try.
Maybe I missed this, but it looks like the professor had a neutral-ground bonding plug in the Jackery when it was connected to the home transfer switch. So I'm guessing that means his transfer switch cuts the neutral from the main panel when its switched over to backup power. If the transfer switch doesn't switch both the hot and neutral wires coming in from the main panel, I think the ground-neutral bonding has to be handled at that main panel and not the Jackery to prevent the risk of ground loops. Do I understand that right? I'm planning to use the 5000 with my transfer switch and I want to make sure I get this right. My generator had to be set up with the ground-neutral unbonded to work with my transfer switch and I'm assuming it'll be the same with the Jackery. Thanks in advance for any insights anyone has on this.
Thank you for your channel. I am buying this unit for my home and cargo trailer(7’x14’. I want to mount solar panels on top. What would you recommended? I don’t have a budget,I prefer to do it once.
The dropout during the first UPS test is very concerning. Hopefully it’s something they can fix in firmware but I’m voting for a Hardware bug. Looks to me like the main processor did a hard reset. That should never happen and is usually an indication of insufficient hardware filtering. Maybe wait for the Jackery 5000 V2?
I loved my Jackery 300. Recently upgraded to Anker C1000. I can't go for these large ones until they offer full charging/discharging UPS capability without extra panels. Otherwise, not useful for house backup IMO. I just want to connect it to my existing transfer switch. None of these proprietary panels on my house.
I was told by Jackery Tech support that the 5000+ would NOT allow for L2 Tesla charging since the 240v NEMA 14-50 is not grounded and will cause the dreaded ground fault error.
So stupid question. The units that won’t put out on the 240 while say being charged via generator, can you get 240 with a Y splitting adapter cord to a 240 30 amp 4 way plug? By plugging one Y end into different sides?
What would happen to your switching power supply if you used it to charge the Jackery from, say, 20% to 80%? Would it handle it? Flake out? I'm thinking grid down, cloudy sky, using a generator as a work-around.
Why no monitoring of the extra batteries on the head unit or at least on the app. That means a lot especially it your setting this up exclusively as a home system.
Yep. Sounds like Jackery alright. Good stuff but late and sometimes sketchy. That said I own 3 different Jackery but am finally migrating to Bluetti (recently bought a Elite 200) because of Jackery's day late and engineering questionable/obsolete approach to business.
I actually switched from Bluetti EB55 to Jackery 1000 v2, and I find Jackery’s products to be much more stable and of better quality. Plus, the prices during big sales like Amazon Prime Day or Black Friday are really nice. So, for me, the switch was definitely worth it!
Thanks HoboTech for another terrific video, appreciate the information. I just received my Jackery 5000 plus, And as you mentioned it does have both pros and cons. I have a question, With a proper Nema 240 v cable plugs, can I plug a 240v cloths dryer directly to the Jackery Explorer 5000 Plus 240v outlet using a Nema 240v plug adaptor. I don't want to connect the smart transfer panel kit or regular transfer box, Just want to have access to dry cloths incase of an off-grid emergency if grid was to go down for long periods. Will the Explorer 5000 Plus handle a 240v dryer directly plugged to the Explorer 5000 Plus? Will the spit phase allow this without safety issues or grounding or bonded issues plugging 240v directly to Explorer 5000? Appreciate the help, I learned a lot watching this video. Thank you, Paul
@@HOBOTECH 90% sure 100 amp panel. Whole 8 fuses. House built in 56. I really wish ya did a detail review of the panel as their web site doesn't even have the panels manual available.
Professor, I've enjoyed watching your reviews, have seen many. I was wondering why You've never (that I've found yet) done a review on the Anker f3800. I'd like to see you test one. Or is there a reason You have not or don't want to? I want to get something for home backup and am undecided yet. Thanks man for all you do
@@HOBOTECH Thank You for the reply sir. I've been dragging my feet on which way to go for home backup. There are only a couple of you guys doing vids that do real test for consumers deciding where to put a lot of $$$$. Might lean towards a 120/240 inverter, chargeverter, and a 48 volt battery or 2? Careful when you stick yer finger in those 12 volt sockets, something might squirt out at ya!! 😰
Looks awesome, but like with gas generators I can't really understand why they'd waste money on USB ports. This isn't really the kind of product that needs that, and if some weirdo does want a USB port, a 120V charging brick is essentially free, relatively speaking. Definitely would rather eliminate the DC system entirely at this level and add a few watt-hours or native 240V charging.
Supporting the weight on those wheels might be an issue why the extra battery is not made to be stacked on top of the main solar generator. Plus tipover issues?
I stacked the unplugged battery on top and it's stable and easy to push. There's no reason not to support putting a single battery up top as everyone else does it.
@HOBOTECH cool. Another brand had a complaint about a wheel breaking. There are no details on how much weight caused the issue. There are issues with weight. Will an impression occur in the flooring over time. The main unit is over 100 lbs. How much more batteries can be stacked safely?
This seems great but this and the ecoflow version are entirely too expensive for people who don't have a very specific use-case for it - live in a condo where they aren't allowed to have a generator , RV, etc and can justify the cost. For those with a house, they can get a nice 240V inverter generator for half that. For those in an apartment where people aren't allowed to touch any of the wiring and money is probably tighter, they probably get something smaller. Hopefully the price on these will come down too like the others. I had to spend $1299 to get the Jackery 880 WH/1000 W Explorer 290 combo from Costco a couple of years go because my late father was on oxygen and couldn't have a generator and that was just enough for his portable machine and not enough for his big machine. After he passed, I've used the same unit for 2 major power outages but it's always been undersized for the fridge, but nowadays I could get double the capacity/output for the same price.
I actually really like the orange-black design! Most power stations on the market are just plain black, so that splash of orange really makes the brand stand out
You know the world is going crazy when Jackery actually has an original idea! Build in MC4 connectors! Oh my! But now getting to the end of the video I see it's just another Jackery fail and still years behind everyone else. So maybe there's hope for the world yet! 😂
I own the Jackery 1000 V2, and after using it for a while, I honestly find it to be a great value. It’s compact, portable, and has been more than capable of supporting my power needs for short camping trips. I haven’t had any issues with it, and the price-to-quality ratio feels solid to me.
I don’t personally see Jackery as being "behind everyone else"-they’re making real progress with their products, and the 5000 Plus seems like a nice step forward. Everyone has their preferences, but for me, Jackery has been reliable, and I’m happy with my purchase!
Up and coming dual direction EVs will make a lot of these batteries niche products. You will be able to plug your EV into your solar or cheap nightime electric and use it when required.
@@HOBOTECH Well obviously you'll only be dipping into it, not depleting it completely. Most new EV's have around 80kwh+ batteries. You'll be burning through some amount of electric to use that per day, and that amount of stored electric puts most powerwall battery's to shame too (10-12kwh average). Vehicle to grid cars could stop the need to even have powerwalls. Aussie TH-camr - Electric Viking has some good videos on EV tech if interested.
@@MrX8503 Standard as across the board, yes, a few years down the line but Tesla are introducing it next year 2025. EV tech comes thick and fast as each brand tries to keep up.
Looks like you gained some weight along with this Jackery. I have to old 500 Jackery's and love them. But I never got interested in owning more of their products because of their stupid 8mm proprietary plugs for solar charging. Still would not buy this unit simply because I do not possess enough solar panels to provide the minimum voltage required to start charging. Too bad they don't have MC4 connectors or XT60I for the low voltage side where I could use my panels. In my opinion for the lowly consumer like myself that does not have the acreage to support a solar farm , will never own something like this and is relegated to diy power banks for my needs, and thanks to Victron for providing for my needs.
Why not wait for a promotion season? Many products are available at 50% off during those times. Plus, the 5000 Plus has a similar capacity to the Delta Pro Ultra, but with a significantly lower price tag. It’s definitely worth considering during big sales!
@@tinysparky It's still limited to 6000W output. And I have to spend on ac charger, cables, trolley etc. I built LFP battery before I have some idea about that. Jackery also comes with 5 years of warranty.
If someone needs more than 1800 - 3000 watts just Stay at Home. Eco Flow Delta 1300 and River 2 Pro and Delta 2 outshine these massive Starships and well under $1,000.00 with a 5 year warranty - Wearing them out isn't possible - I Keep Trying 👌
@austinavery-rh5tt OP clearly doesn't understand a large segment of the population spends weeks or months traveling to see the world instead of sitting on the couch. These folks need more than a tent camping product.
Does the Jackery Reps even speak to you? AT some point you have to tell them they need to pull their head out of their asses and update there ways of designing. Its like buying a new car that doesn't come with an engine.
Isn’t this product designed as a backup power solution to connect to the grid and provide power and lighting for the whole house? Not sure why the focus is on whether it has a flashlight. Maybe it’s just because you’re a hater?
As far as I can tell, no one has done a review of the Jackery Smart Transfer Switch. Just some quick comments related to it's use with the 5000. Hint hint.
As with all high frequency units, cut that output number in half and thats what you can safely run if you expect it to last any length of time. But myself I'll stick with my low frequency units. If volts,amps and watts is another language to you, do yourself a favor and learn the difference between low and high frequency units. People think if it says, pure sine wave there good to go, what a fawking joke
Too little too late Jackery. Company has rested on its laurels and TH-cam influencer wave for years. Bothe EcoFlow and Bluetti are better in every way and offer more capabilities.
No need to judge a brand just based on when its products were released. Rushing to launch products can often lead to more issues down the line, and I’m sure you wouldn’t want to deal with a half-baked product.
@ What does Jackery ass taste like brown noser? It’s called INNOVATION and Jackery has lacked it for a long time. They instead focus on handing out free products to scumbag influencers and social media POS. That party ended with Covid and BOTH EcoFlow and Bluetti have destroyed them on the high end and a myriad of Chicom manufacturers on the low end.
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Another TH-cam reviewer found that while charging in online ups mode, you can still use 240v outlet but it's actually same phase on both hot legs. It actually make sense when they call online ups mode - they possibly have two inverters and runs both all the time. In online ups mode one inverter is always charging the battery, and another one is producing output from the battery instead of pass through. So, with online UPS mode you can't power any 240v appliance but still use it in transfer and limited to 3600w total. Online UPS mode is also useful if anyone wants to top up the battery from their EV's 120v outlet without taking the home offline.
If it's out of phase it's no longer 240v. The manual it says 240v is disabled. What they are doing is powering all outputs in online mode with one side of the inverter. That's why it's limited to 3600w.
I know i saw that video.. but i cant find it anymore
@@unijabnx2000 it’s on jasonoid video after 33 minutes
I believe it is actually one inverter, but truly a split phase
I live in Seattle area and was out of power for 4 days last week. This battery seems like the cheapest option right now which provides the full 7200w output to connect to transfer switch or 30A generator inlet and in my research also supports simultaneous charging. Other option is EF Delta Pro Ultra (or two Delta Pro / Delta Pro 3). Delta Pro Ultra supports simultaneous charging while still have 240v on. Why do I need that? I have an EV which can occasionally top up the battery for few hours a day from the car's 120v outlet. EVs sit on a giant battery which can power most homes for a week.
I was also hit by the power outage here for a week. The problem with most EVs in America though is that they don't support V2H (vehicle to home). You also need to have a transfer panel in your home. If your EV has an AC out, it likely is still limited to 1500W. I guess though in a pinch it would be possible (though not so practical) to shuttle power between an EV and Home using a unit like this.
@@calvinl2149 At 1500W, you can still charge a 5kwh battery in 4 hours. If all of your home heating and cooking need is by gas, this should be enough to run house for day.
Just to add some data, my EV has a 120v 1500W outlet. I was able to run two refrigerators, gas furnace, tankless heater (gas but still need electricity to run) from my car's 120v outlet. In 24 hours of continuously powering these, it consumed only 10% of the car battery. But it's not whole house and I can't drive the car. With a 240v power station like this, I can power the whole home and still use the car, and only charge the battery at night. I am thinking just to install a generator inlet with interlock - which should be cheaper.
Having the 240 stay on while charging with both 240 and solar is awesome. I have it hooked up to my transfer switch and the generator plugged into the DPU 240 generator charge port. I also have 4000 watts of solar hooked up. Anytime I run short of sun and low on battery I just start my generator and charge at 6000 watts with no interruptions to anything in the house. Awesome set up.
This is my use-case as well. The combination of the Jackery 5000 plus the 70+ kWh in my car should be able to run my house nearly indefinitely (with maybe weekly trips to a fast charger). My car can provide up to 1800 watts continuous and I already have a transfer switch/generator input.
To get around the simultaneous charging issue, my plan is to use something like the EG4 Chargeverter to convert the incoming AC from my car to DC and use the Jackery's low voltage DC input. I'll be limited to 21amps (~1000 watts) of charging input, but that should be plenty.
The EG4 costs $500 and is very overpowered for this use case, so I'm trying to figure out if there's a decent quality option that can convert the AC to 500-1000 watts of DC output to feed into the Jackery.
@@magellannh645 That's what I am thinking as well - get a dc power supply to simultaneously charge. if you spend $500 more, you can also get Delta Pro Ultra, which already supports simultaneous charging. 1kwh storage extra and higher efficiency inverter (less inverter drain). Delta pro ultra with a single battery is available at $4k right now at wellbots
AWESOME review, but too late, we already ordered TWO units, plus the Smart Panel so we can get a full 240V 60A into our home panel. As noted, we were one of those who ordered for A) the compact form factor and B) for the standard MC4 solar inputs. PLUS, the unit has a built-in solar disconnect switch. I hope that some of the issues cam be worked out with firmware updates. We received our first 5000 Plus today, and are waiting on the second unit as well as the Smart Panel. I’m hoping their referral service for solar-qualified electricians turns out to have merit. In the end, we have been wanting to have some sort of non-gas/propane backup for our home in the country, and could have gone the traditional system route, but at 67, we may not always be in this home, and wanted something that was PORTABLE. Time will tell whether we made the best choice versus Anker and EcoFlow. Thanks again...
Too bad. You could have saved some money.
@hobotech, indeed, though I did end up saving $2199 on BF introductory prices…
To stay competitive with Bluetti they need to add a 30amp RV outlet and drop that price to $4200. In my opinion.
It's already $2999 and you can simply use a 50A to 30A dogbone for a RV. I always carry one anyway because some RV parks only have 50A.
i have never taken jackery seriously because of that 8mm plug so thank you for the mc4 connector! 👍
Still have my Jackery 240. Bought it based on your review!
Excellent comprehensive review. It's great progress from Jackery but the negatives are glaring and I could not bring myself to buy any of their product except the 290 I brought locally from Harbor Freight. I have the Anker Solix 3800 on my list. It also is not perfect and has a few flaws but not glaring enough to keep me from buying one or two. It does come down to your individual needs and likes. I have a total off grid plan so I would have no need for home backup. Nice flat extension cords that I can cover and replace readily keeps things simple and wonderful. Jackery has not learned much still using barrel plugs; they must have a warehouse full of those things and cannot offload them.
That inverter draw is insane, accidentally forget to turn it off? Unit is empty in two days. Unacceptable
Wow thats way worse than. Anker 3800. Arguably one of teh 3800s only two shortcomings (the other being 240 outlets turned off when changing off grid.) hard to see where this Jackery fist is with completion given these issues and price.
I mean, it takes a lot of power to concurrently run two separate phases that are perfectly 120 degrees out of phase of each other. This isn’t 120v only remember. I would like if Jackery separated the 120v and 240v for better efficiency though.
@@Billie-qb2usI don't know what anyone is talking about 😭 I just want something to replace my propane fueled generator for my camper trailer
It turns itself off if not in use. The default is 2 hours.
@@laggyx500yes but if using small draw the inverter cannibalizes way too much of the battery reserve
No more barrel plugs for charging. I sold all my units for that reason and stoped recommending them to my clients for that reason.
I’ve heard from other reviewers that it’s buggy! Don’t know why they release buggy software when they ship it?
15 A solar is a joke! My system can charge it 100 A
@@simon359It’s almost like you didn’t watch the video, the maximum for the high voltage side is 4000w and the low voltage side is 1200w. Comparing a SYSTEM “you built yourself” to an all in one production PRODUCT is pretty dumb lmao. It’s really easy to top the specs of many of these power stations on the market with your own purchased hardware. Nobody is impressed dude.
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At least I’m not pushing a crappy product! 15 A is a joke! In the shorter days of winter, you will never charge up the battery!
@ i think you are mistaken, this product isn’t designed to be an off-grid power solution. It’s designed to be a home backup system incase of power outages; im sure your system can recharge from solar in a few hours; but remember this Jackery isn’t meant to be an off-grid solution. And because of that, why engineer 100a solar input (which will drive the cost up) when the majority of people that will use this won’t have more than 3000w of solar? From a business perspective it doesn’t make any sense.
@@simon359do you really need to charge up to 100% every day? If charge cycles mess with how long your batteries will last. Maybe your battery would last longer by having a backup system. You use all the available current on the main unit before recharging the main unit, instead of recharging the solar generator when you have only used 30% in over night use of watts. Do you think that would increase how long your solar batteries would last?
wow, I remember that video as that's when I started watching you Hobotech.
You are always very fair in your valuations.
That's my goal. Too many channels say everything is perfect when that's clearly not true.
The low voltage solar as well as the 12VDC output should have some sort of positive lock connector available like an Anderson or the 12VDC XT connector.
You can get a surge protector put on the power meter outside the house. We rented one from the power company for $10/month. (Only option) They also put one on the internet cable box outside the house next to the meter. That cable is not grounded so lightning could come in and wreck your computer gear-speaking from experience. Even grounded lightning will do what it wants but better than surge protector inside
Oooof, this is a solid machine but that parasitic draw is a killer for me.
Great review and super informative.
Can you charge with 120 v while outputting 240 v to the house? Example: The house is 240, in an emergency, it would be running. my small inverter generator would run for some of the day to change this back up. So will it be able to output 240 while being charged with 120? Or does the 240v load need to be turned off while charging from a 120 v generator?
The the 240v will turn off while ac charging but it still puts out 120v bridged on both legs of the 240v plug . Essentially it will still run both legs of your home panel at 120v but you can't run any 240v circuits. To me that's still a win compared to the anker f3800 which just completely shuts off its 240v plug when ac charging.
@@ajfoskett8826actually if you spend another $500 you can get the 240 and the 120 to work at the same time. There is a guy that made a video a month back. He goes by Jasonoid on TH-cam
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When plugging in the AC wall charger you still have 240 volt from the side plug. It just makes it 120 from each leg.
I also agree the DC8020 ports need to go, and the app needs some work. My 1000 plus will not recalculate the % with 2 packs added on the main screen, and I don't like how the main unit will drop power before draining the add-on packs first, seems backwards. The app connection issues are a problem. The add-on pack cables are also needing some work. Need to offer longer, shorter, and 90 degree options.
Note: Regarding the expansion batteries for the Explorer 5000 Plus not fitting on top of the main unit, I’ve been looking at all the depictions in the Jackery ads, and the batteries are always shown sitting off to the side. May be deliberate for stability of the main unit, which is tall compared to its footprint?
Thanks for your reviews. How would you compare the Jackery 5000 Plus to having two Pecron E3600LFP with connect box to provide 240v for whole house power?
Nice. That could run my AirCon for 1 hour. Tell Jackery they forgot to send me one. Think this would 100% replace my DIY one I use for camping. Wish the plugs had rubber covers, that's one thing my DIY generator has on it.
They really do need to make the AC idle eco. It's like they didn't even try.
Maybe I missed this, but it looks like the professor had a neutral-ground bonding plug in the Jackery when it was connected to the home transfer switch. So I'm guessing that means his transfer switch cuts the neutral from the main panel when its switched over to backup power.
If the transfer switch doesn't switch both the hot and neutral wires coming in from the main panel, I think the ground-neutral bonding has to be handled at that main panel and not the Jackery to prevent the risk of ground loops. Do I understand that right? I'm planning to use the 5000 with my transfer switch and I want to make sure I get this right. My generator had to be set up with the ground-neutral unbonded to work with my transfer switch and I'm assuming it'll be the same with the Jackery.
Thanks in advance for any insights anyone has on this.
The bonding plug is required for my inverter to detect the "generator". It's not going through a transfer switch. The inverter has a transfer switch.
Thank you for your channel. I am buying this unit for my home and cargo trailer(7’x14’. I want to mount solar panels on top. What would you recommended? I don’t have a budget,I prefer to do it once.
I was going to ask if they could be paralleled go 14,000 watts output to get the full 50amp output.
Professor: Can i use an automatic meter collar transfer switch with this for home essentials backup while I'm away?
You can use your own transfer switch with the 240v output.
The dropout during the first UPS test is very concerning. Hopefully it’s something they can fix in firmware but I’m voting for a Hardware bug. Looks to me like the main processor did a hard reset. That should never happen and is usually an indication of insufficient hardware filtering. Maybe wait for the Jackery 5000 V2?
The firmware is literally v1.0 and wouldn't update. It's likely an easy software fix of the trip condition. If concerned, use the online UPS.
What’s the inverter power draw when connected to their smart panel? The same?
Yep
I loved my Jackery 300. Recently upgraded to Anker C1000. I can't go for these large ones until they offer full charging/discharging UPS capability without extra panels. Otherwise, not useful for house backup IMO. I just want to connect it to my existing transfer switch. None of these proprietary panels on my house.
I was told by Jackery Tech support that the 5000+ would NOT allow for L2 Tesla charging since the 240v NEMA 14-50 is not grounded and will cause the dreaded ground fault error.
You can get around that.
So stupid question. The units that won’t put out on the 240 while say being charged via generator, can you get 240 with a Y splitting adapter cord to a 240 30 amp 4 way plug? By plugging one Y end into different sides?
No. For split 240v you need two 120v 60hz in opposite phase. Two in the same phase is still 120v.
Ok I thought the 2 on the left and 2 on the right were different phases.
What would happen to your switching power supply if you used it to charge the Jackery from, say, 20% to 80%? Would it handle it? Flake out? I'm thinking grid down, cloudy sky, using a generator as a work-around.
Would be fine. I would just reduce the voltage so it ran around 2000w. The issue here was source power caps at 2400w.
@HOBOTECH thanks Tom
Good review. You're getting to be a real Hororwhitts.
@HOBOTECH I thought the high PV has a max Voltage of 450V. I believe you said 400V in the video. I just want to confirm on this. Thanks.
Why no monitoring of the extra batteries on the head unit or at least on the app. That means a lot especially it your setting this up exclusively as a home system.
And especially because Bluetti did it years ago!
You can't set the AC input lower than like 1300W? Some of them have many lower settings.
Nope
Yep. Sounds like Jackery alright. Good stuff but late and sometimes sketchy. That said I own 3 different Jackery but am finally migrating to Bluetti (recently bought a Elite 200) because of Jackery's day late and engineering questionable/obsolete approach to business.
I actually switched from Bluetti EB55 to Jackery 1000 v2, and I find Jackery’s products to be much more stable and of better quality. Plus, the prices during big sales like Amazon Prime Day or Black Friday are really nice. So, for me, the switch was definitely worth it!
Good for those not wanting to do a diy build
Thanks HoboTech for another terrific video, appreciate the information. I just received my Jackery 5000 plus, And as you mentioned it does have both pros and cons. I have a question, With a proper Nema 240 v cable plugs, can I plug a 240v cloths dryer directly to the Jackery Explorer 5000 Plus 240v outlet using a Nema 240v plug adaptor. I don't want to connect the smart transfer panel kit or regular transfer box, Just want to have access to dry cloths incase of an off-grid emergency if grid was to go down for long periods.
Will the Explorer 5000 Plus handle a 240v dryer directly plugged to the Explorer 5000 Plus? Will the spit phase allow this without safety issues or grounding or bonded issues plugging 240v directly to Explorer 5000? Appreciate the help, I learned a lot watching this video.
Thank you, Paul
Can the transfer panel be the main/only panel? I currently have fuses...
Depends on your loads. It's a 100A panel. Most homes have 200A.
@@HOBOTECH 90% sure 100 amp panel. Whole 8 fuses. House built in 56. I really wish ya did a detail review of the panel as their web site doesn't even have the panels manual available.
Professor, I've enjoyed watching your reviews, have seen many. I was wondering why You've never (that I've found yet) done a review on the Anker f3800. I'd like to see you test one. Or is there a reason You have not or don't want to? I want to get something for home backup and am undecided yet. Thanks man for all you do
Because I can't get them to commit to anything. Trying again next year for an agreement. I'd advise going with a brand that has their crap together.
@@HOBOTECH Thank You for the reply sir. I've been dragging my feet on which way to go for home backup. There are only a couple of you guys doing vids that do real test for consumers deciding where to put a lot of $$$$. Might lean towards a 120/240 inverter, chargeverter, and a 48 volt battery or 2? Careful when you stick yer finger in those 12 volt sockets, something might squirt out at ya!! 😰
Talk about why you put what looks like a bonding plug in when you did 240V.
Why the heck don't they put in switches for bonding?
I need one for my home system when charging from a generator that's not grounded.
@@HOBOTECH Interesting. Why not bond at the generator? I was taught to bond closest to the power source.
I was bonding at the generator...
@@HOBOTECH I watched the video again. At 13:50 is that a bonding plug I see in the Jackery? We never see your generator.
Looks awesome, but like with gas generators I can't really understand why they'd waste money on USB ports. This isn't really the kind of product that needs that, and if some weirdo does want a USB port, a 120V charging brick is essentially free, relatively speaking.
Definitely would rather eliminate the DC system entirely at this level and add a few watt-hours or native 240V charging.
Supporting the weight on those wheels might be an issue why the extra battery is not made to be stacked on top of the main solar generator. Plus tipover issues?
I stacked the unplugged battery on top and it's stable and easy to push. There's no reason not to support putting a single battery up top as everyone else does it.
@HOBOTECH cool. Another brand had a complaint about a wheel breaking. There are no details on how much weight caused the issue. There are issues with weight. Will an impression occur in the flooring over time. The main unit is over 100 lbs. How much more batteries can be stacked safely?
This seems great but this and the ecoflow version are entirely too expensive for people who don't have a very specific use-case for it - live in a condo where they aren't allowed to have a generator , RV, etc and can justify the cost. For those with a house, they can get a nice 240V inverter generator for half that. For those in an apartment where people aren't allowed to touch any of the wiring and money is probably tighter, they probably get something smaller.
Hopefully the price on these will come down too like the others. I had to spend $1299 to get the Jackery 880 WH/1000 W Explorer 290 combo from Costco a couple of years go because my late father was on oxygen and couldn't have a generator and that was just enough for his portable machine and not enough for his big machine. After he passed, I've used the same unit for 2 major power outages but it's always been undersized for the fridge, but nowadays I could get double the capacity/output for the same price.
Thank you Jackery for keeping the orange color down to a minimum
I actually really like the orange-black design! Most power stations on the market are just plain black, so that splash of orange really makes the brand stand out
Great video , is eco flow doing anything this BF?
I have 3 more BF videos coming!
You know the world is going crazy when Jackery actually has an original idea! Build in MC4 connectors! Oh my!
But now getting to the end of the video I see it's just another Jackery fail and still years behind everyone else. So maybe there's hope for the world yet! 😂
I own the Jackery 1000 V2, and after using it for a while, I honestly find it to be a great value. It’s compact, portable, and has been more than capable of supporting my power needs for short camping trips. I haven’t had any issues with it, and the price-to-quality ratio feels solid to me.
I don’t personally see Jackery as being "behind everyone else"-they’re making real progress with their products, and the 5000 Plus seems like a nice step forward. Everyone has their preferences, but for me, Jackery has been reliable, and I’m happy with my purchase!
I like your reviews, but I do miss the old vids, and your wanderings!
Thank you for the video.
Too big for me but those with room for solar panels and also have high electricity demands this seems like a great deal.
13:20 NICE!
@13:26 It's... It's... IT'S OVER NINE THOUSAAAAAAND!
Up and coming dual direction EVs will make a lot of these batteries niche products.
You will be able to plug your EV into your solar or cheap nightime electric and use it when required.
Until you need to drive your car ...
@@HOBOTECH
Well obviously you'll only be dipping into it, not depleting it completely. Most new EV's have around 80kwh+ batteries. You'll be burning through some amount of electric to use that per day, and that amount of stored electric puts most powerwall battery's to shame too (10-12kwh average). Vehicle to grid cars could stop the need to even have powerwalls.
Aussie TH-camr - Electric Viking has some good videos on EV tech if interested.
V2H is the dream, but you’ll be waiting for years for it to be standard.
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Standard as across the board, yes, a few years down the line but Tesla are introducing it next year 2025.
EV tech comes thick and fast as each brand tries to keep up.
@@nowisthetime6093 that’s if they do. Also what if I don’t want a Tesla? You’re still waiting years.
The government better not sabotage electrical system
How many Ah is that?
Depends on the voltage of the battery. 12v equivalent is 5040Wh/12.8v or 393Ah.
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Thank you.
13:14 Maybe being an Auctioneer is your True Calling? lol
Looks like you gained some weight along with this Jackery. I have to old 500 Jackery's and love them. But I never got interested in owning more of their products because of their stupid 8mm proprietary plugs for solar charging. Still would not buy this unit simply because I do not possess enough solar panels to provide the minimum voltage required to start charging. Too bad they don't have MC4 connectors or XT60I for the low voltage side where I could use my panels. In my opinion for the lowly consumer like myself that does not have the acreage to support a solar farm , will never own something like this and is relegated to diy power banks for my needs, and thanks to Victron for providing for my needs.
What’s the issue here? This doesn’t really seem like something worth getting upset about.
Barrel plugs suck. And get these battery prices down. You can build a 16 kwh pack with 16 3.2v EVE MB31 cells for under $2000!
Jackery has always been overpriced and under-spec'ed and they still are. No coincidence that they are your first sponsored video.
Why not wait for a promotion season? Many products are available at 50% off during those times. Plus, the 5000 Plus has a similar capacity to the Delta Pro Ultra, but with a significantly lower price tag. It’s definitely worth considering during big sales!
Had I saw this I would have got it instead of my small bluetti ac2000p.
I just have a soft spot for Bluetti, IMO their the best.
Must be nice getting free stuff.
A Jim Doozy !?!? I know him.
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But it's quiet....
When the price drops to $800 in 2026 I'll buy
Are you sure 2026 going to be nice when it gets here?
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Your getting Famous 🤣
No intro sfx! 😢
Hobo, you are falling behind the other reviewers. Only yours are worth watching. Please try and get these out quicker to get more views. Love you.
Jackery sent this to me after every else already reviewed it. I was miffed.
@@HOBOTECH =(
That's a mighty big Jackery 240 you got there professor.
Can u imagine if one of these caught fire in a home??
LiFePO4 batteries don't catch fire. That's why they are used in homes and RVs.
Too much money for too little in return.
Learn some math
This is the cheapest 7200w home backup battery right now. Closest one is Delta Pro Ultra, compare the price with that
Or get an eg4 5kw rack battery and a 6000xp and cables... Your price is $2,300.
@@tinysparky It's still limited to 6000W output. And I have to spend on ac charger, cables, trolley etc. I built LFP battery before I have some idea about that. Jackery also comes with 5 years of warranty.
Great review! Thanks for taking the time.
If someone needs more than 1800 - 3000 watts just Stay at Home. Eco Flow Delta 1300 and River 2 Pro and Delta 2 outshine these massive Starships and well under $1,000.00 with a 5 year warranty - Wearing them out isn't possible - I Keep Trying 👌
@austinavery-rh5tt OP clearly doesn't understand a large segment of the population spends weeks or months traveling to see the world instead of sitting on the couch. These folks need more than a tent camping product.
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Does the Jackery Reps even speak to you? AT some point you have to tell them they need to pull their head out of their asses and update there ways of designing. Its like buying a new car that doesn't come with an engine.
They quit asking for my input when they changed management in 2020.
No flashlight kills the deal for me.
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No way to call down our little buddies. 👽
Isn’t this product designed as a backup power solution to connect to the grid and provide power and lighting for the whole house? Not sure why the focus is on whether it has a flashlight. Maybe it’s just because you’re a hater?
@@CowperHilda You haven't seen enough Hobotech Jackery reviews to get the joke about the flashlight.
Just another review site now, but I get it everyone's got to eat
This has been a dedicated review channel for over 5 years... Just rejoining society?
@ And now it’s a co-opted review channel
Jackery products are way too pricy for what they deliver....
$2999 for 7200w inverter and 5kWh battery with 5 year warranty is actually very competitive.
Only 3 GRAND? LOL.
As far as I can tell, no one has done a review of the Jackery Smart Transfer Switch. Just some quick comments related to it's use with the 5000. Hint hint.
stupid 8mm proprietary plugs. Sorry capital S.
Actually, this isn't really a problem.
These large all in one units are too expensive I'll build my own
As with all high frequency units, cut that output number in half and thats what you can safely run if you expect it to last any length of time. But myself I'll stick with my low frequency units. If volts,amps and watts is another language to you, do yourself a favor and learn the difference between low and high frequency units. People think if it says, pure sine wave there good to go, what a fawking joke
Too little too late Jackery. Company has rested on its laurels and TH-cam influencer wave for years. Bothe EcoFlow and Bluetti are better in every way and offer more capabilities.
No need to judge a brand just based on when its products were released. Rushing to launch products can often lead to more issues down the line, and I’m sure you wouldn’t want to deal with a half-baked product.
@ What does Jackery ass taste like brown noser? It’s called INNOVATION and Jackery has lacked it for a long time. They instead focus on handing out free products to scumbag influencers and social media POS. That party ended with Covid and BOTH EcoFlow and Bluetti have destroyed them on the high end and a myriad of Chicom manufacturers on the low end.