@@ragansmithgymnastics7782 Eythora from Netherlands actually had some quality tumblings (like triple twist to front flip) this year but too bad she downgraded in these Championships
Say what you want, deduct what you want, but Brooklyn Moors evokes more emotion in her dance, body, and face than a lot of the powerhouse tumbling going on in floor today. I applaud her for that.
@@pedropelaez You do realize that the "artistic" in Artistic Gymnastics is there for a reason, right? It's not just about tumbling; it's about creative presentation and artistic expression. Dance choreography has always been a part of floor routine, and without it, you'd be deducted heavily. If you ever watched in the earlier days of the 70s during the Korbut & Comaneci era onward, you'd see an even greater display of it. Watch Dominique Moceanu's fun routine from the 96 Olympics. The point of floor is not to merely tumble, it's meant to PERFORM. Learn your gymnastics.
Just like the “artistic” men’s floor? In the past the uneven bars were super close that didn’t allow for the difficulty we see today. Give me the most difficult routines done cleanly over pretty but simple (relatively speaking) routines. 🤷♂️🤷♂️
@@pedropelaez Men's & Women's artistic gymnastics do not comprise the same events nor are performed the same, so trying to make that comparison is just silly. Whether you "care" for one type of routine over the other is totally your opinion, but don't discredit dance and artistry as if it isn't and hasn't always been a part of Women's Artistic Gymnastics. You'll just be showing your ignorance to the sport.
Ugh this is one of the greatest flood routines of all time. Sure it doesn’t have the highest difficulty but this would eat a Khorkina program for a snack and be a perfect compliment to one from Boguinskaya. BREATHTAKING
i coundnt see what was so special about her old coreography. now i see the power of expression from her. its magical! its a happening! ive never seen such interpretation since the old ways gymnastics.
The Canadians are so wonderful to watch. They just need to work on strength and endurance so they can add skills and increase their D-score. Brooklyn can add her front to double front. They won't have to worry about an extra 0.1 inquiry to up the D-score.
I’m a big gymnastics fan from the USA! and although Simone is the GOAT for her acrobatic talent, this routine is incredible for both its artistry and acrobatic elements. Maybe not as difficult as Simone, Jade but it’s incredible nonetheless. It’s perfection in my opinion
Her last two passes were weak...last one landed very low...no amplitude...big difference between her and Simone. Also Simone's dance style is totally different, Simone's style is bouncy, sassy and fun, Brooklyn's is mega dramatic, it isn't fair to compare styles...when done well.
Exactly what I say. Biles is WAG's greatest acrobat/power-gymnast of all time, and don't get me wrong, I love her for that, but if you were to take the tumbling out of both routines, you'd be left with far more from Moors' programmes than you would from Biles'--and that's nothing to do with Moors being 'balletic' because to use another VERY underrated American gymnast--in terms of their artistry--Kim Zmeskal. By far one of the most artistic Americans ever and not balletic in anyway.
@@kathymilesmorgan6047 I don't know what about it "isn't fair"... Brooklyn Moors has superior artistry and style on this routine than Simone, and really to any other WAG elites right now. I think you're right that in general, most folks would judge balletic routines more "artistic" than the bouncy/playful routines, but in that latter category I do think that even Laurie Hernandez's 2016 floor has the edge over Simone. And of course, because artistry isn't really being judged, it all has nothing to do really with how excellent and dominant Simone is. Brooklyn Moors is not about to beat her for any floor medals. But, because I'm procrastinating I feel compelled to also defend Brooklyn's tumbling, which, though it has form issues, is by no means "weak". A double front to front full is on the higher end of difficulty for what's being done in WAG now. Same with the last pass, which had a major issue with form/amplitude, but in terms of difficulty, in a quad when lots of gymnasts brought back a simple double back tuck, there's no issue with the difficulty of a 2.5 punch front.
@@_padfoot I could not agree more with your comment about the tumbling. I've said in several comment sections that all D+ fwd twisting elements should be increased by 0.1, that the Maldonado (front triple full) should be bumped up to an H and that the bwd 3.5 should also be increased to a G. So on that basis if this were to be scored properly her middle pass would be an E+C + 0.2 CV = 0.7 (G). Then in the EF she actually added a stag jump to her Podkopayeva giving it 0.1 in CV therefore making it a G and her last pass would be worth an E with CV. So I fully agree, minus the form issues this is very difficult tumbling and could have contended well had it not been for covid postponing everything. But who knows, hopefully we'll see her make a suprise return for 2024.
Doesn't have the biggest difficulty but Man is it Soo beautiful to watch. The only gymnast I know that does a Podkepayeva and that Triple Attitude turn makes me scream EVERY TIME!!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Canada, I salute you. Aside from a great performance with incredible music, you actually provide your gymnasts with adult-size leotards. I double-salute you for that
@@sahpire75 They're ridiculous. What's more is that the FIG actually has rules against that, yet it allows all it's biggest manufacturers to violate them.
Art... pure art. Powerful tumbling also but wow. This is it's own type of gymnastics. She wasn't asking to be judged. She was performing for the world. She almost ate shit on the last pass but 1 hell of a performance.
Yeah... but they dont want to reward the power and athleticism either. They are destroying this sport. Where they downgraded this routine in tumbling they should have given more value to her artistry, expression and dance .....
I love her emotions and dance, but I honestly can't help but feel it doesn't match the music. Like I feel it's the same dance for the 2017 season's music to which it fit a lot better. This music just isn't dramatic enough especially in the very dramatic moments in the dance, in my opinion. But I do see how other people would think otherwise
@@elinamauno8833 I think if anything there more areas of her previous programme that didn't match the music because the choreography was too dramatic wherease the music was too light and delicate. Also I think going with heavier, more dramatic, _nocturnal_ music whilst having such similar choreography to her previous programme is what reveals that even more. Regardless, I still enjoyed both, but I think this years choreography is more wholeheartedly suited to the music than 2018's.
Brooklyn Moors has the best artistry and choreography on floor of any gymnast - of all time! Greater than Svetlana Boginskaya, Shannon Miller, Lilia Podkopayeva, Svetlana Khorkina, Vanessa Atler and everyone else.
It was supposed to be, and the inquiry was to try and get it credited and named after her, but IMO she dropped her leg too soon so it was more like a two and a bit...
She tried. The leg came down just past the 2nd rotation and she tried to dance out of it. Judges weren't having it. Triple attitude "has" to end exactly where it started with leg still in position. I don't think danced out of triple could be credited. But I also think with more work she can do it
Mauricio M you think a leap should be judged the same as a triple double? lol you’re delusional babe!! maybe try watching rhythmic if that’s what you’re into ;)
No it was a 5.3. After the inquiry it was a 5.2. She definitely needs to increase her tumbling level and clean up her landings. She is so stunning to watch
You would be very wrong to take that deduction. It's a very common transition out of that kind of turn in dance and is controlled really well. I could maybe understand a deduction for lack of control if her core was unstable in the transition (by that I mean hunching over/collapsing - you know a transition into the ground is controlled when their upper body remains in alignment), but even in slow motion it's apparent that Brooklyn is in complete control during her transition. I understand that it's a transition you don't see in turns often given how rare back attitude turns are in routines nowadays, but the way she handles it is actually extremely appropriate and smart from a choreography composition standpoint. A big marker of her style is how well one thing flows to another - tumbling and dance elements included. This transition helps that.
Unpopular comment but I don’t really like her choreography I feel like she just keeps stroking her face and it makes me cringe but her expression is unmatched.
I disagree. She can pull off the drama. I was a stage actress for many years, and one of my mentors taught me that there is no such thing as "overacting," just bad acting. You have to commit to every moment of the performance, and Brooklyn does that like few other gymnasts ever have.
@@saramurray3057 I agree, but as much as I love this routine I get where the OP is coming from. Her expression is top notch and although she does actually dance at times, I do wish that she would have danced more (than just express the music through emotion) so as to maintain a greater fluidity of movement throughout. For instance, I'd love to see a rhythmic gymnast perform a ball routine to this music and I personally think that watching an RG (or dancer) perform to this (even freehand) would have helped a bit; especially during the times where she repeats the choreography.
Why? Suni has very nice choreo. As does grace and simone (say what you will her routines are well put together) this is more of a "dance" routine than a womens artistic gymnastics elite level routine (and I love Brooklyn) her tumbling just isnt enough. Dont blame USA...blame the code. And no america doesn't need it when ever member can throw a double double in their sleep. These routines are in the code as and designed to be TUMBLING orientated with dance skills and a gymnasts personal brand of artistry (whether its dance, movements, expression, etc). So no. They shouldn't lose points compared to a ballet style routine in WAG.
@@diandracocco7102 well Sherlock im not a gymnast so i wont be able to do that lol, smh ,pff it was an opinion not an open invitation to stupid people to respond with stupid questions lol wow kids
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Without Morgan Hurd, I’m very grateful another gymnast puts actual thought and effort into choreography-stunning!
I miss watching Morgan at worlds this year 😭
@Glenn delos Santos Did I say that?
@Glenn delos Santos Oh, I . mean maybe it's just the lack of tumbling in the Netherlands routines. Morgan and Brooklyn have the difficulty and dance!
Glenn delos Santos yeah i mean gymnasts who could go for just power but still choose to prioritize choreography (:
@@ragansmithgymnastics7782 Eythora from Netherlands actually had some quality tumblings (like triple twist to front flip) this year but too bad she downgraded in these Championships
Can we just talk about the way the leo catches the lights?? Absolutely stunning!
Love that Leo. Sparkly awesomeness
Gorgeous
Yeah, her leo looked like the outer space.
Say what you want, deduct what you want, but Brooklyn Moors evokes more emotion in her dance, body, and face than a lot of the powerhouse tumbling going on in floor today. I applaud her for that.
Yesss!!! Now if she could up her difficulty a bit she could really contend. She is a rare gem
This isn’t a dance competition. This is a gymnastics competition and difficulty should be rewarded, not pretty choreography. 🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@pedropelaez You do realize that the "artistic" in Artistic Gymnastics is there for a reason, right? It's not just about tumbling; it's about creative presentation and artistic expression. Dance choreography has always been a part of floor routine, and without it, you'd be deducted heavily. If you ever watched in the earlier days of the 70s during the Korbut & Comaneci era onward, you'd see an even greater display of it. Watch Dominique Moceanu's fun routine from the 96 Olympics. The point of floor is not to merely tumble, it's meant to PERFORM. Learn your gymnastics.
Just like the “artistic” men’s floor? In the past the uneven bars were super close that didn’t allow for the difficulty we see today. Give me the most difficult routines done cleanly over pretty but simple (relatively speaking) routines. 🤷♂️🤷♂️
@@pedropelaez Men's & Women's artistic gymnastics do not comprise the same events nor are performed the same, so trying to make that comparison is just silly. Whether you "care" for one type of routine over the other is totally your opinion, but don't discredit dance and artistry as if it isn't and hasn't always been a part of Women's Artistic Gymnastics. You'll just be showing your ignorance to the sport.
The only gymnast that attended all floor finals of the Quad - Montreal, Doha and Stuttgart.
Hope to see her in Tokyo EF as well.
the artistry, expression, emotion. I LOVE IT
Ugh this is one of the greatest flood routines of all time. Sure it doesn’t have the highest difficulty but this would eat a Khorkina program for a snack and be a perfect compliment to one from Boguinskaya. BREATHTAKING
Does anyone else want to throw roses on the gym mat after that performance?? Bravo 👏👏👏👏
One of the most artistic fx in the new code.
i coundnt see what was so special about her old coreography. now i see the power of expression from her. its magical! its a happening! ive never seen such interpretation since the old ways gymnastics.
The Canadians are so wonderful to watch. They just need to work on strength and endurance so they can add skills and increase their D-score. Brooklyn can add her front to double front. They won't have to worry about an extra 0.1 inquiry to up the D-score.
I’m a big gymnastics fan from the USA! and although Simone is the GOAT for her acrobatic talent, this routine is incredible for both its artistry and acrobatic elements. Maybe not as difficult as Simone, Jade but it’s incredible nonetheless. It’s perfection in my opinion
Her last two passes were weak...last one landed very low...no amplitude...big difference between her and Simone. Also Simone's dance style is totally different, Simone's style is bouncy, sassy and fun, Brooklyn's is mega dramatic, it isn't fair to compare styles...when done well.
Exactly what I say. Biles is WAG's greatest acrobat/power-gymnast of all time, and don't get me wrong, I love her for that, but if you were to take the tumbling out of both routines, you'd be left with far more from Moors' programmes than you would from Biles'--and that's nothing to do with Moors being 'balletic' because to use another VERY underrated American gymnast--in terms of their artistry--Kim Zmeskal. By far one of the most artistic Americans ever and not balletic in anyway.
@@kathymilesmorgan6047 I don't know what about it "isn't fair"... Brooklyn Moors has superior artistry and style on this routine than Simone, and really to any other WAG elites right now. I think you're right that in general, most folks would judge balletic routines more "artistic" than the bouncy/playful routines, but in that latter category I do think that even Laurie Hernandez's 2016 floor has the edge over Simone.
And of course, because artistry isn't really being judged, it all has nothing to do really with how excellent and dominant Simone is. Brooklyn Moors is not about to beat her for any floor medals.
But, because I'm procrastinating I feel compelled to also defend Brooklyn's tumbling, which, though it has form issues, is by no means "weak". A double front to front full is on the higher end of difficulty for what's being done in WAG now. Same with the last pass, which had a major issue with form/amplitude, but in terms of difficulty, in a quad when lots of gymnasts brought back a simple double back tuck, there's no issue with the difficulty of a 2.5 punch front.
@@_padfoot I could not agree more with your comment about the tumbling. I've said in several comment sections that all D+ fwd twisting elements should be increased by 0.1, that the Maldonado (front triple full) should be bumped up to an H and that the bwd 3.5 should also be increased to a G.
So on that basis if this were to be scored properly her middle pass would be an E+C + 0.2 CV = 0.7 (G). Then in the EF she actually added a stag jump to her Podkopayeva giving it 0.1 in CV therefore making it a G and her last pass would be worth an E with CV.
So I fully agree, minus the form issues this is very difficult tumbling and could have contended well had it not been for covid postponing everything. But who knows, hopefully we'll see her make a suprise return for 2024.
Reminds me of Boginskaya. Beautiful!
Most gorgeous outfit and performance I have ever seen by this Canadian Gymnast, Brooklyn Moors. Love her older Sister Victoria Moors also.
What a truly remarkable routine....I enjoyed it very much and her energy was off the charts!!!!!
Amazing choreography!! What a dancer!!! I love it!
this will be the most gorgeous thing we'll see all worlds
First time I've ever seen a gymnast who submitted an inquiry for their score and actually had their score decrease.
her score was decreased o.o?
Gymnasmic this just happened to kara eaker as well
@@lb7617 yeah, that was very sad to see :(
I'm so sad about Eaker. .4 off?!
what was her original score? would she make the finals?
Doesn't have the biggest difficulty but Man is it Soo beautiful to watch. The only gymnast I know that does a Podkepayeva and that Triple Attitude turn makes me scream EVERY TIME!!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
By far the best floor as it pertains to artistry and choreography
simply stunning.
Such a pleasure to watch!!❤️ We rarely see such beautiful choreography combined with such emotion anymore. I wish it was rewarded more.
Canada, I salute you. Aside from a great performance with incredible music, you actually provide your gymnasts with adult-size leotards. I double-salute you for that
Ty tired of the thong like Leo
@@sahpire75 They're ridiculous. What's more is that the FIG actually has rules against that, yet it allows all it's biggest manufacturers to violate them.
This is art. So beautiful.
Wonderful!
I love it great performer passion,
Beautiful! So elegant
So incredibly light, elegant and emotional. I am THRILLED she is heading UCLA!
Talento, eleganza, bellezza, tutto quello che per me deve avere una ginnasta!
stunning
Art... pure art. Powerful tumbling also but wow. This is it's own type of gymnastics. She wasn't asking to be judged. She was performing for the world. She almost ate shit on the last pass but 1 hell of a performance.
brooklyn moors you will always be famous 🫡
The elegance...oh my gosh
Gorgeous leo!
Wow that's good ol fashioned dance training !
Beautiful routine. Unfortinunety, not what the judges are looking for. Today it's all about power and athleticism...
Yeah... but they dont want to reward the power and athleticism either. They are destroying this sport. Where they downgraded this routine in tumbling they should have given more value to her artistry, expression and dance .....
that turn in attitude...gorgeous
its so beautiful I’m going to cry 🥺💙
A última passada acabou com ela
Really nice to see art back in the sport. Of course I love raw power, but this is more engaging.
I love her emotions and dance, but I honestly can't help but feel it doesn't match the music. Like I feel it's the same dance for the 2017 season's music to which it fit a lot better. This music just isn't dramatic enough especially in the very dramatic moments in the dance, in my opinion. But I do see how other people would think otherwise
Elina Mauno Completely disagree. This routine is poetry
@@tuckertootsie9639 I'm happy you love it! That was just my personal opinion and I can still see why people do not agree with me:D
@@elinamauno8833 I think if anything there more areas of her previous programme that didn't match the music because the choreography was too dramatic wherease the music was too light and delicate. Also I think going with heavier, more dramatic, _nocturnal_ music whilst having such similar choreography to her previous programme is what reveals that even more. Regardless, I still enjoyed both, but I think this years choreography is more wholeheartedly suited to the music than 2018's.
What is the name of this song?
Wow
Brooklyn Moors has the best artistry and choreography on floor of any gymnast - of all time! Greater than Svetlana Boginskaya, Shannon Miller, Lilia Podkopayeva, Svetlana Khorkina, Vanessa Atler and everyone else.
She did 3 passes
Why three passes and not four
Was that a triple attitude
Misógina internalizada Opresora héteropatriarcal yep!
It was supposed to be, and the inquiry was to try and get it credited and named after her, but IMO she dropped her leg too soon so it was more like a two and a bit...
@@madnatty She should try it again
She tried. The leg came down just past the 2nd rotation and she tried to dance out of it. Judges weren't having it. Triple attitude "has" to end exactly where it started with leg still in position. I don't think danced out of triple could be credited. But I also think with more work she can do it
Goddess. It's obscene she will get no more credit for this glorious choreography than Biles will get for her ZERO CHOREOGRAPHY.
It's the problem of the Code. It does not reward artistry. Artistry have poor few tenths in the calculation compared to acrobatics.
remember this is gymnastics, not a dance recital, ria!!
Ria Bright It’s not Biles’ choreography first of all. She didn’t come up with it. Also that’s not how this sport works
@@macjamesward Remember this is ARTISTIC gymnastics, both should be balanced, it's not trampoline or acrobatics.
Mauricio M you think a leap should be judged the same as a triple double? lol you’re delusional babe!! maybe try watching rhythmic if that’s what you’re into ;)
does someone know why she got downgraded? i think the routine is originally 5.4
There were tiny errors all over landing leaps i can seewhy they downgraded
If you force a review they get a chance to view your routine in slow motion thus harsher penalties
No it was a 5.3. After the inquiry it was a 5.2. She definitely needs to increase her tumbling level and clean up her landings. She is so stunning to watch
the 10 dislikes are from blind&deaf people! she is perfect!!!
Score?
Marc Myron 13.566 (5.2/8.366). D score was 5.3 but they submitted an inquiry and it was lowered to 5.2. 😬 She’s 3rd on floor after 6 subs.
sopranomegs omg 😂😂😂😂 so she actually lost a tenth trying to get a higher SV? Is that even allowed?😂😂😂
Marc Myron Unfortunately yes! It’s a gamble to submit an inquiry. I’ve very rarely seen it make a score lower though. Lol
I don’t like the way she finishes her turns.... I would always take .5 cause she seems to fall out of her turns on purpose
Christian 74 lol just my opinion check my channel out
I agree with you but it clearly isn’t worth a .5 deduction. I would take a deduction for lack of control though
.5? lol
J F TI me she fell out the skill
You would be very wrong to take that deduction. It's a very common transition out of that kind of turn in dance and is controlled really well. I could maybe understand a deduction for lack of control if her core was unstable in the transition (by that I mean hunching over/collapsing - you know a transition into the ground is controlled when their upper body remains in alignment), but even in slow motion it's apparent that Brooklyn is in complete control during her transition.
I understand that it's a transition you don't see in turns often given how rare back attitude turns are in routines nowadays, but the way she handles it is actually extremely appropriate and smart from a choreography composition standpoint. A big marker of her style is how well one thing flows to another - tumbling and dance elements included. This transition helps that.
Unpopular comment but I don’t really like her choreography I feel like she just keeps stroking her face and it makes me cringe but her expression is unmatched.
Brooklyn is a brilliant gymnast bur there is way too much drama in this routine
I disagree. She can pull off the drama. I was a stage actress for many years, and one of my mentors taught me that there is no such thing as "overacting," just bad acting. You have to commit to every moment of the performance, and Brooklyn does that like few other gymnasts ever have.
@@saramurray3057 I agree, but as much as I love this routine I get where the OP is coming from. Her expression is top notch and although she does actually dance at times, I do wish that she would have danced more (than just express the music through emotion) so as to maintain a greater fluidity of movement throughout.
For instance, I'd love to see a rhythmic gymnast perform a ball routine to this music and I personally think that watching an RG (or dancer) perform to this (even freehand) would have helped a bit; especially during the times where she repeats the choreography.
This routine wasn't appreciated for its artistic value...smh
No it wasnt. And when they devalued the landings they should have given her higher value for presentation and artistry
Compared to this, the US girls must get negative points for choreo.
They don't need it apparently
Why? Suni has very nice choreo. As does grace and simone (say what you will her routines are well put together) this is more of a "dance" routine than a womens artistic gymnastics elite level routine (and I love Brooklyn) her tumbling just isnt enough. Dont blame USA...blame the code. And no america doesn't need it when ever member can throw a double double in their sleep. These routines are in the code as and designed to be TUMBLING orientated with dance skills and a gymnasts personal brand of artistry (whether its dance, movements, expression, etc). So no. They shouldn't lose points compared to a ballet style routine in WAG.
1:14 the ugliest leap ive ever seen in gymnastics history ugh bad for brooklyn
That was a bad camera angle
How is it to be blind? The leap is really good...
please send in the video of you doing it better pftt
@@diandracocco7102 well Sherlock im not a gymnast so i wont be able to do that lol, smh ,pff it was an opinion not an open invitation to stupid people to respond with stupid questions lol wow kids
@@stevenvalencia6353 no you're right. It was a messy leap.
Everyone is calling amazing and beautiful it I find this routine slow and boring and her form is atrocious.
Atrocious and Brooklyn just dont go together in the same sentence. She is not a strong tumbler but far from atrocious
Oh, WOW. 🥲 This is ARTISTIC gymnastics!