There's a 700+ page book called Studies in the Horror Film: The Shining. They literally spoke to everyone on the film. EVERYONE. My two takeaways from the book is that Kubrick shot everything in order, changing things as people came up with them. Jack came up with throwing the tennis ball in the Colorado Room. The scenes of Danny riding the Big Wheel were added after watching the footage and hearing the wheels hitting the wooden parts of the floor. And, second, anytime someone would point out anything that didn't quite make sense, Kubrick would chuckle and shrug, saying, "It's just a ghost story." Kubrick assistant Leon Vitali insists that Stanley would find all of this scrutiny hilarious.
a lot of people close to him insist that these conspiracy theories weren't actually intentional of kubrick's part, like kubricks brother in law or, like you mentioned, leon vitali. however, is it that far fetched to think kubrick didn't really discuss themes or what he was doing in his films with people? I mean it wouldn't even make sense for him to start discussing things on a surface level, as far as filmmaking techniques and whatnot, he would just do his thing and ask people what he wanted out of them, let alone start discussing thematic implications and subtle hints and clues. just wouldn't be practical for a director to be open about what he is doing, especially on big productions like kubrick's films. I also highly doubt he told anyone that the opening to dr strangelove was intended as a sexual metaphor, and yet, he has admitted in writing that that was in fact his intention, while filming he likely just told people what he wanted to get, without discussing the meaning behind it. I'm all for discrediting crazy theories, but with the shining there are several that have too much supporting them to be dismissed. for example, is it really a coincidence that mr ullman, the owner and representative of the hotel, is wearing clothes that parallel perfectly with the american flag in the corner of the screen? (blue jacket, and red and white striped shirt), and is it a coincidence that the hotel was built on an indian burial ground, and america was literally also founded on an indian genocide? and then there are the several references to the number 42, on danny's clothes, and the tv show being watched on by wendy and danny is called "summer of 42"? regardless if you agree with the holocaust theory, one thing is certain, this reference to the specific number 42 was not a coincidence. and I doubt kubrick ever mentioned this topic with anyone from his inner circle. films may be a collaborative effort, but they are still a form of personal expression by the director, especially in the case of "authors" like kubrick. I think we're all doing the film a huge disservice but brushing aside any parallels as "coincidences", especially when they are this specific (like the number 42 being referenced more than once in completely different scenes; the owner of the hotel wearing clothes that parallel the american flag, and the hotel being built on an indian burial ground, just like america was; not to mention the references to sexual abuse by jack, like the fact jack is reading a playgirl magazine while waiting in the lounge at the start of the film, implying he was gay or bisexual, and in said magazine there's an article about parents who molest their own kids, and danny appears several times on screen with bear imagery, and later there's a bear costumed man performing sexual acts; this all sounds crazy and out there, but check these things for yourself, it's all online by now, and it is all tied thematically, it's not just random nonsense for the sake of it). some of these things might sound crazy, but the coincidences are too specific to be just coincidences. and I doubt an artist would openly discuss his art with people close to him, kubrick also didn't seem to be self indulgent to do something like that
I've said on other threads, that in the few short years Kubrick spent in production of his movies, he could not possibly have conceived the complexity of bizarre ideas the thousands of fans have concocted over a period of 40 years.
@@aliensoup2420 not all of them of course (fake moonlanding stuff for example), but there are ones that are well founded in the films and make a lot of thematic sense. Discrediting all of them because of a few (or a lot really) bad apples is doing him a disservice in my opinion, there's a lot of clever implications under the surface of his films that deserve to be discovered and analysed, shame there are too many lunatics out there that give the rest of them a bad name
@@knurdyob One thing to keep in mind about all of Kubrick's movies up to and including The Shining, is that they were all made prior to the home video and mass distribution era. That means the average viewer only ever saw the movie once, and did not have the luxury of 'pause', 'rewind', and 'slow motion' to scrutinize a scene. Most of the symbolic imagery that is painstakingly isolated by modern viewers, is not noticed by a casual viewer. I've watched Kubrick films countless times and only notice them after being pointed out. That means most of this seemingly intended symbolism is lost on a vast majority of the audience. Some of it may be intentionally subliminal, but I believe most of it is simply continuity errors, and random coincidence. If one tries hard enough one can manufacture many sorts of ludicrous theories. I have imagined some of my own that might have fit well into the documentary "Room 237".
@@aliensoup2420, I align with this take. I believe most were simple continuity errors. It's interesting seeing what people have to say, but it turns me off when it no longer becomes fun and is this subliminal obsessive thinktank of overanalyzing pieces.
12:31 It's interesting how after the ball is rolled, the next shot shows Danny facing the opposite direction. Look at the carpet pattern. Very deliberate.
I've met Joe Turkel numerous times and had lunch with him once. I told him, "You know you were the devil, right? What's the line before you appear? 'I'd sell my soul for just a glass of beer.' And then you're there to seal the deal." He creased his brow, thinking about it. "You've never heard that before?" I asked. He shook his head, laughed, and said, "That's a Kubrick film! Everyone can see something different in it!"
Something I've noticed in "The Shining" is the presence of books. In the Torrances' apartment there are a lot of books and all over the place: books on shelves and books in stacks and even Danny has a collection in his room. I'll have to look again but I think the bathroom in the apartment is the only space there without books in it. In the caretaker's quarters there are books again. Maybe I missed it but I don't think we see in the movie a single bookshelf that has all the books standing upright in a row. I suspect this is to show the disarray and instability of the Torrances's life together. It would be interesting to know why when we first see Wendy she's reading "Catcher in the Rye". I don't know a lot about Stanley Kubrick but I know enough that the Salinger novel is there for a reason. The doesn't-line-up interior/exterior of the Overlook Hotel makes me think of the Crain mansion in Shirley Jackson's "The Haunting of Hill House". It's been a while since I read the novel but my recollection is that Hill House had been built to be confusing and to be slightly "off" and disorienting and unsettling though for what reason I don't recall---if any reason was ever given. Hill House and the Overlook Hotel (a hill house in its own way) have some differences between them but still have a lot in common. Something else that would be interesting to know is whether Shirley Jackson's mansion inspired Stephen King's hotel I've never heard or read anyone sayng so but I think the Overlook, though not real, has some of the most beautiful interiors I've ever seen. I could stay there a long time and not grow tired of it though I'm not sure I'd want to be there "...forever...and ever...and ever"! Shelley Duvall has been mocked or criticized for her performance in "The Shining" but I think she was right on the money in her portrayal of someone married to an alcoholic and an abuser who is mentally unbalanced. I agree when it's been said that Wendy was the kind of person an abuser would marry. As time has gone by and there's more knowledge about addiction and about domestic violence I hope that there's more understanding of appreciation for Ms. Duvall's performance.
There is a channel called Shining Insights, and he has a video about The Catcher in the Rye in the movie. The page Wendy is reading is the one where Holden Caulfield asks a girl friend to run off with him to an isolated cabin. She says no. Caulfield is having a nervous breakdown, so, he is like Jack. Also, the description of the girl friend sounds a lot like Wendy.
I do like the theory that much of what we see is part of Jack Torrance's novel he's trying to write while overcoming writer's block. This could explain the inconsistencies in the set design.
The shirt Danny was wearing could be a call back to the honey mooners. In the show the main character would should that he would send his wife ' to the moon' when he was angry at her.
@@Beedostudios3721 It's called "Midnight with the Stars and You" by Al Bowlly. Needless to say, I only knew of the song by searching for the film's soundtrack, lol. Also, hey, man, I appreciate the kind words. I guess I'm doing something right on this channel!
I knew after I figured out that Loyld was the devil the moment that jack says, "I would give my god dang soul for a glass of beer." He says that loyld appeared as well as all the alcohol. Jack recognized immediately Loyld took a drink and the deal was sealed and now the hotel has him as you said. Your money is no good here. Money meaning his soul.
@@RideAcrossTheRiver Of course not. Jack wasn't actually drinking liquor, it was all a product of his imagination as he created the protagonist for his book whom is actually the Jack we see for most of the movie. Kubrick shows us in no uncertain terms when Wendy runs into the Gold Room that, not only is Jack alone and there is no booze on the shelves, but Jack is slumped over as though in a trance/dream until Wendy shakes him. In fact, we see numerous times throughout the film where Jack is sleeping right before he encounters a "ghost" which shows the audience that these interactions are merely the product of a dream, all of which he draws from for his book (which is actually what we're watching play out for the bulk of the film in my opinion). The first time we see Jack sleeping, he's in bed when Wendy wakes him up with breakfast indicating the previous scene was a dream. When Danny goes to get his toy from the caretaker's apartment, his mother says "don't wake Daddy" indicating that Jack is indeed asleep during the proceeding, unsettling scene with Danny. Jack is later shown having a nightmare at his desk when Wendy hears his screams and comes running from the boiler room to check on him, he tells her he had a disturbing dream where he kills her and Danny and "chops them up into little pieces" which I believe is what we see later in the film where he "runs amok" with the axe - this was the dream Jack had in the Colorado Lounge (in fact, there are strong indicators that there are a couple of other scenes shown out of sequence). Right before Jack's encounter with the old woman in room 237 he is shown sleeping in the Gold Room, indicating the proceeding events are also a dream which is why he so convincingly informs Wendy he didn't see anything unusual in room 237. I believe he's telling the truth. Jack, in reality didn't see anything odd in there, the scene which took place in room 237 only occurred in his nightmare which was influenced by what was told to him by Wendy. Before Grady speaks to him from behind the locked pantry door, we again see Jack sleeping...Grady doesn't really speak to him, nor does he let him out of the pantry. Nothing that takes place from this point on actually happens in reality, it's all just "pictures in a book. It isn't real". In the first act, we see the "real" Jack - Jack the writer. He and Wendy hold hands, they are jovial, Jack is relatively normal and interacts well with Danny, nothing seems amiss and throughout the tour of the hotel we never see the maze like carpet (because this part of the hotel doesn't actually exist in the "real" Overlook - all of the decor is done in an Native American style motif, no garish colours/geometric patterns can be seen anywhere, they only appear later in one of Jack's "fever dreams" involving Danny). The majority of the second act, what we're seeing are Jack's dreams which fuel his imagination for the writing of his book - which makes up the entire third act. When Wendy interrupts Jack in the Colorado Lounge as he is typing, we see next to his typewriter the scrapbook containing the newspaper clippings detailing the triple murder/suicide committed by Grady. It is only THEN we see Jack snap for the first time as we're introduced to Jack, the CHARACTER, who shares the same characteristics as the murderous Grady. Notice when he talks to Wendy she is standing in front of a reflective surface, as are all the "ghosts" he converses with. After screwing up the paper and throwing it to the floor before reprimanding Wendy for interrupting him, we see him staring blankly ahead, there is NO paper on the floor and Wendy is nowhere to be seen...Jack resumes typing, he is WRITING this scene for his book, it never happened. From this point on, we rarely see the "real" Jack (writer Jack) and Kubrick gives us a huge visual clue in the form of his typewriter which is now a different colour for the rest of the movie. It took well over a dozen viewings before I came to this conclusion, but all the clues are there and they're actually not subtle at all once you know what to look for.
@@donnamaree4920 Jack slurred his words drunkenly when Wendy told him of the "crazy woman" in Room 237. Of course, Jack was right; there was nobody there. But Jack was clearly drunk when Wendy ran into The -Cold- Gold Room.
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You missed the two Grady’s theory, Charles and Delbert, one in the 1920s and the other in the 1970s. Delbert (1920s ?) supposedly the lover and murderer of the woman in 237. Both Grady’s are referenced as killing their families with an axe. Could the 1920s photo of Jack be actually of Delbert, which could mean Jack assumes the role or persona of Grady, and the bathroom scene would be both Grady’s conversing.
You're definitely on the right track, only Grady wasn't the lover of the woman in room 237 (Lorraine Massey) who had a penchant for seducing young bell boys that worked at The Overlook, and she wasn't murdered, she committed suicide in the bath tub after one of her young lovers abandoned her.
Re-watch the scene in the bathroom...look at Jack's eyes as he speaks to Grady. They're not looking at Grady, but directly into the mirror at HIMSELF, which lends credence to this theory that they're one and the same.
Danny's Ball rolled to him on the carpet and the next shot the pattern us reversed means they would either have to rip up the carpet and reverse it or lay a new carpet on top so its NOT a continuity error Stanley meant for the pattern to be reversed.
I saw The Shining in a movie theater when I was 14. Still one of the most atmospheric movies I've ever seen. Scary as hell too! Would love to see this movie on the big screen again.
I think the two Jacks theory should have been included. The concept of writer Jack and the Jack character from his new book. Would explain the scenes that are real versus the fantasy (with missing furniture, changing lampshades, etc). Fun learning some new facts, thanks for sharing!
That's a neat one. This might be a false memory, but I feel like I remember hearing about that some time ago (after I made the video). Anyway, yeah, I would have included that for sure had I known about it. Thanks!
Someday I may get tired of analyses of "The Shining" but so far that hasn't happened! Very interesting ideas here. I found especially interesting the idea that Wendy may have been the caretaker. Something I've noticed and that has been commented on elsewhere is that in a Gold Room scene a woman in a gown walks away from the camera and on the back of her dress, at her derriere, is a handprint, maybe blood? No one else has commented on this but in the movie version of "Carrie and, I think, in the novel too, we see and read about how after Carrie's menstrual cycle begins and the gym teacher helps her, there is a bloody handprint on the teachers white gym shorts. This may be a long shot but I'll mention it: the Gold Room (one of the most beautiful rooms ever seen in a movie) bears a strong resemblance to the Art Deco nightclub the Club Leviathan that was one of the First Class public rooms aboard the ocean liner Leviathan. The Leviathan started out as the Vaterland under the German flag, was seized in 1917 to become the troopship Leviathan then after the war she remained under the American flag with the same name and went back to passenger service. The Club Leviathan replaced an earlier public room, maybe a Ritz Carlton restaurant that had been in that space and decorated in a completely style.
I prefer the other infante terrible Ken Russell. Kubrick leaves important info out to keep people talking about them. Ken hits you over the head with his vision. But his masterpiece The Devils, was banned for the religious overtones.
During the interview at the end there is a small white spot on jacks tie (which has the maze on it). It is not there until the end of the interview. Only can think it represents Jack frozen in the maze.
Yes, there are too many "explanations" and too few analyses of this movie. With analysis I mean how Kubrick & co works to create certain moods with cinematography, sound, acting, editing etc.
The fact that the opening credits run "backwards" lends credence to this theory, though I don't buy it for a multitude of reasons...not least of all because I have a better theory!
If you look at the zoomed out image of the maze, you can almost see a cartoonish outline of a Minotaur. I’ve seen some people compare Jack to one at the end of the film due to a poster that shows up earlier but I’ve never seen people talk about the Minotaur outline
Great work, great video. As conspiracy theories go, all of the wrong ones are conspiracies. The correct one is not. You need to think harder about this movie but I still love your video. Cheers
The Wendy Theory really intrigues me. The fact that Kubrick was known for being a perfectionist and there are a number or missing objects just does not make sense. Especially having shot a scene 127 times. Sadly, if you look too deep into it, it makes less and less sense.
In Re: The Wendy Theory -- I have to disagree. The more you look into TWT (particularly aspects not covered in the Navarro video from a few years ago), it actually makes *more* sense, not less. There's so much subtextual analysis to support that it's Wendy who has been mentally unstable for years now, with many of the scenes/attributions made relative to Jack actually having been done by her -- dislocating Danny's arm, for instance -- but with her usually having been in a fugue state and not realizing what she was doing. (Sidenote example: in a couple different analyses, including one that was suggested to me in a long discussion among some friends back in '89, Wendy could likely have actually killed Jack at the staircase scene; instead of having dragged his body to the pantry, which others have noted for decades as being a physically daunting feat for a woman of her size/build, she could have more credibly dragged him just outside, leaving his body by some bushes, et al, at a much shorter distance *but* having hallucinated dragging him to the pantry, as well as hallucinating much/most of what followed.) The mistake that some people have made relative to TWT, in whichever analyses, is in thinking it is the "real" answer to what is happening in the film -- it likely isn't. What it *does* do, however, is "square the circle" of various narrative mirrors that exist across the film: whereas Jack is essentially depicted as a sociopathic narcissist who inflicts harm on others in several analyses, and Danny in still others is hallucinating much of the film while having his frequent undiagnosed seizures, Wendy serves the mirror of being mentally unstable/prone to hallucinations who commits violent or neglectful acts but unlike with Jack does so in a mental fugue-state where she hallucinates others being "x" and responds accordingly. (In at least one other analysis I'm aware of, where Jack is several hours dead when Holloran returns, it's Wendy who is "wandering in a maze", and she's the one who killed him -- the blood on her knife isn't Jack's but Hollaran's, and she hallucinated finding his body which she herself had stabbed just moments earlier.) There really is a lot going on there relative to TWT, just as much as there is for several of the other non-supernatural analyses ("Jack's Just Insane", or "It's all part of Jack's Novel", or "Danny is having Seizures and is Hallucinating", and others) that also have strong contextual support, too.
i definitely think the continuity errors are very deliberate, but not to signify a specific characters viewpoint- like the wendy theory. It makes it unsettling to watch without you pinpointing what is unsettling...all the characters are unreliable narrators and the weird lack of continuity in the hotel is showing that. you think you are seeing events happen quickly one after another, but the time references put in the film are deliberately vague and one scene that looks like it follows directly from another could easily have had longer time inbetween. Halloran shows them the freezer, but when they exit it it's on the opposite side of the hall from where they started...to me, it looks like we were spared the interval of time from him showing the first freexer, and him finishing up on the last freezer, across the hall. the effect is it feels a little disorientating and like Danny with his first vision, we lose time and can't account for it. I'd also put forward that Danny has no shine, other than a person who has been abused will shine out to another person who has experienced similar abuse. the way Scatman acts that scene is like an adult counsellor probing a child for signs of abuse, and Danny is unreliably interpreting what is being asked of him. Halloran is confused by a lot of what danny says that you'd think a legitimate mindreader wouldn't need the clarification for. The way Wendy, Jack and Danny are played by the respective actors is very much the dynamic of a long term abusive relationship that has gone on for longer and with worse cruelties than admitted to in the film by characters themselves. it's what makes this film so ingenius is that it legitimately can be seen as a story of a narcissistic abuser taking his family to a remote location and finally trying to destroy them when his abuse is about to be exposed. Shelley portrayed an incredibly accurate and subtle depiction of a wife who had been in an abusive relationship for years, Jack a very real depiction of a narcissist who is feeling undermined. Because that kind of nuance is not anticipated in a horror i think that's why people felt the performances were bad, at the time. I'm not saying it's definitively a non supernatural film, just that Kubric very deliberately made it so both interpretations are valid, with supported visual and contextual evidence, on screen. The political aspect, Native American Genocide...He definitely included lots of imagery and sound that would point to that part of history, but i think the reasoning is - Jack is an abusive manipulative man with delusional entitlement, the genocide and other atrocities are committed by men like this and they get vengeful when confronted on their entitlement
Yeah I know what you mean ,you bring up some good points , but one scene in particular when Danny and Jack are talking on the bed together, a lot of people think Danny looks afraid of Jack, but I think that’s just Danny’s personality, he’s never excited or happy
@@jamesbyrne9312Yes. Also, I have never used a typewriter but the L's in All work and no play..... they certainly look more like the digit 1. A11 work and no play..... Not All. Not ALL. but A11? That is all I have. That and the gold room certainly looks like the inside of a nice golden coffin/casket? Crazy shit man.
I’m sure it’s already been said, but working the actors to death probably was why so many takes were needed. Jeez! I thought the Arrowverse actors had it bad. Well…support the actors strike.
The scene where Wendy picks Danny up was maybe a dummy, because it was easier for her to lift. But the close-up scene of her holding Danny is not a dummy. Look at the right hand cliched in a fist. That's a real hand. Furthermore, if you watch very closely as she is backing up, the right thumb moves, and the next scene the thumb is no longer clinched in the fist, but straightened out.
It's Mr. Kubrick's own version of his 'Shining's journey..the poster with the yellow background and the terrifying face in reverse white was Stanley's face, Jack Torrance Jack Nicholson, Danny Lloyd/ Torrance, Llyod the bartender..see the pattern? Continuity problems, it wasn't Wendy , its Jack and Danny slowly merging with the overlook ...
So you're suggesting that Kubrick cast Danny Lloyd solely on the basis that his names were the same as the child protagonist and bartender in King's novel? That's quite a leap... Maybe he chose to direct The Shining because he shared the same initials as Stephen King!
The part of what you said about Mr Ullman at the deleted scene at the hospital, 🏥 threw that ball 🥎 to Danny & laughed. The SAME mysterious ball that rolled on the floor towards Danny, that Mr Ullman may ACTUALLY KNOW SOMETHING about that sinister Overlook Hotel, actually gave me the Creeps & some Shivers! 😬🥶😬🥶❄️🌬️🌨️👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾😉👌🏾🥃🍹🧊🚪🪓🩸🩸🩸👭😈😱🛀☝️🧸⚾
I’ve always assumed Stuart Ullman was the devil, and the overlook a type of hell, like the hotel California, you can check in anytime you like, but you can never leave…
It’s a video format where information on the top (i.e. tip of the iceberg) is well known, and the further you go down the more obscure or unknown the trivia becomes.
Teddy Bears. OMG Teddy Bears in Eyes Wide Shut, final scene where their daughter is taken away. Kubrick DESTROYED Steven King's novel. Why does a kid have an Apollo 11 T shirt? Why the weird scene with a Giant teddy bear? Why are panda bears associated with pedophilia? Qanon was not a term when this film was invented.
Rusty water. I grew up on rusty well water. Before most people had big filters to take the rust out. Our laundered clothing would get more and more rusty looking.
At this time I didn’t know the video condenser “Handbrake” that I used was the cause of increasing the volumes. For the longest time I kept wondering what the hell was causing the music to increase and pitch. I eventually realized there was an audio component in HandBrake that allowed the sound to be unaffected.
I don’t think her acting was bad as much as unsettling and probably purposely so it makes you fear for their son more if she was gi jane it wouldn’t of had the same affect
Shelley Duvall was a professional. Nicholson is method and I'm sure Kubrick encouraged it. Duvall knew what Kubrick was about, it was no secret in the industry. They couldn't have possibly known how vulnerable she was or Kubrick could have found someone else. I am sorry about Duvall's emotional health. Kubrick gave her a part that a hundred other actresses would have killed for and been happy to embrace the hardship of working with Kubrick. I am sorry she couldn't handle it. It's not Kubrick's fault.
not really a fan of this commentary. The story having a native american allegory isn't a tin foil hat conspiracy- it would be more of an art form and allegories like this aren't uncommon in film. Shelly Duvell wasn't just stressed out because Kubrick was a perfectionist. Kubrick was purposely terrorizing her and told the set and actors not to talk to her to drive her into a mental state that was supposed to help her act the character and act like she had no self esteem. I used to have a computer game when I was a child called Digby the Dog that Shelly Duvall worked on, did lots of the voices , and wrote all the songs for =)
Appreciate the honesty. That's a fair point with the Native American idea not being considered a 'tinfoil conspiracy'. I still think it's outlandish, but I will agree it shouldn't fall under tinfoil. I did not know Shelly worked on a game! That's cool to hear.
I can see that. Stephen King can get reeaalllyyy detailed in his descriptions of settings to where people can find it hard to follow what's happening exposition-wise. I’m just tossing a guess there.
There was no Final Solution, 42, blah blah blah. If you are old enough to remember, the Holocaust story has changed a thousand times over the years and still keeps changing.
@@nosuchthing8 uhh do you think dude, like totally like the bra has said that several tubular times to everyone who has like said what I like said dude, even like above dude... I mean dipshit
There's a 700+ page book called Studies in the Horror Film: The Shining. They literally spoke to everyone on the film. EVERYONE. My two takeaways from the book is that Kubrick shot everything in order, changing things as people came up with them. Jack came up with throwing the tennis ball in the Colorado Room. The scenes of Danny riding the Big Wheel were added after watching the footage and hearing the wheels hitting the wooden parts of the floor.
And, second, anytime someone would point out anything that didn't quite make sense, Kubrick would chuckle and shrug, saying, "It's just a ghost story."
Kubrick assistant Leon Vitali insists that Stanley would find all of this scrutiny hilarious.
a lot of people close to him insist that these conspiracy theories weren't actually intentional of kubrick's part, like kubricks brother in law or, like you mentioned, leon vitali. however, is it that far fetched to think kubrick didn't really discuss themes or what he was doing in his films with people? I mean it wouldn't even make sense for him to start discussing things on a surface level, as far as filmmaking techniques and whatnot, he would just do his thing and ask people what he wanted out of them, let alone start discussing thematic implications and subtle hints and clues. just wouldn't be practical for a director to be open about what he is doing, especially on big productions like kubrick's films. I also highly doubt he told anyone that the opening to dr strangelove was intended as a sexual metaphor, and yet, he has admitted in writing that that was in fact his intention, while filming he likely just told people what he wanted to get, without discussing the meaning behind it.
I'm all for discrediting crazy theories, but with the shining there are several that have too much supporting them to be dismissed. for example, is it really a coincidence that mr ullman, the owner and representative of the hotel, is wearing clothes that parallel perfectly with the american flag in the corner of the screen? (blue jacket, and red and white striped shirt), and is it a coincidence that the hotel was built on an indian burial ground, and america was literally also founded on an indian genocide? and then there are the several references to the number 42, on danny's clothes, and the tv show being watched on by wendy and danny is called "summer of 42"? regardless if you agree with the holocaust theory, one thing is certain, this reference to the specific number 42 was not a coincidence. and I doubt kubrick ever mentioned this topic with anyone from his inner circle. films may be a collaborative effort, but they are still a form of personal expression by the director, especially in the case of "authors" like kubrick. I think we're all doing the film a huge disservice but brushing aside any parallels as "coincidences", especially when they are this specific (like the number 42 being referenced more than once in completely different scenes; the owner of the hotel wearing clothes that parallel the american flag, and the hotel being built on an indian burial ground, just like america was; not to mention the references to sexual abuse by jack, like the fact jack is reading a playgirl magazine while waiting in the lounge at the start of the film, implying he was gay or bisexual, and in said magazine there's an article about parents who molest their own kids, and danny appears several times on screen with bear imagery, and later there's a bear costumed man performing sexual acts; this all sounds crazy and out there, but check these things for yourself, it's all online by now, and it is all tied thematically, it's not just random nonsense for the sake of it). some of these things might sound crazy, but the coincidences are too specific to be just coincidences. and I doubt an artist would openly discuss his art with people close to him, kubrick also didn't seem to be self indulgent to do something like that
I've said on other threads, that in the few short years Kubrick spent in production of his movies, he could not possibly have conceived the complexity of bizarre ideas the thousands of fans have concocted over a period of 40 years.
@@aliensoup2420 not all of them of course (fake moonlanding stuff for example), but there are ones that are well founded in the films and make a lot of thematic sense. Discrediting all of them because of a few (or a lot really) bad apples is doing him a disservice in my opinion, there's a lot of clever implications under the surface of his films that deserve to be discovered and analysed, shame there are too many lunatics out there that give the rest of them a bad name
@@knurdyob One thing to keep in mind about all of Kubrick's movies up to and including The Shining, is that they were all made prior to the home video and mass distribution era. That means the average viewer only ever saw the movie once, and did not have the luxury of 'pause', 'rewind', and 'slow motion' to scrutinize a scene. Most of the symbolic imagery that is painstakingly isolated by modern viewers, is not noticed by a casual viewer. I've watched Kubrick films countless times and only notice them after being pointed out. That means most of this seemingly intended symbolism is lost on a vast majority of the audience. Some of it may be intentionally subliminal, but I believe most of it is simply continuity errors, and random coincidence. If one tries hard enough one can manufacture many sorts of ludicrous theories. I have imagined some of my own that might have fit well into the documentary "Room 237".
@@aliensoup2420, I align with this take. I believe most were simple continuity errors. It's interesting seeing what people have to say, but it turns me off when it no longer becomes fun and is this subliminal obsessive thinktank of overanalyzing pieces.
Over 40 years on and this film is still being talked about and analysed
Yeah, it's pretty wild.
This is arguably the most unique horror movie ever. I can't get enough of the analysis. I want to thank you for posting. subscribed, notifications on
12:31 It's interesting how after the ball is rolled, the next shot shows Danny facing the opposite direction. Look at the carpet pattern. Very deliberate.
I've met Joe Turkel numerous times and had lunch with him once.
I told him, "You know you were the devil, right? What's the line before you appear? 'I'd sell my soul for just a glass of beer.' And then you're there to seal the deal."
He creased his brow, thinking about it.
"You've never heard that before?" I asked.
He shook his head, laughed, and said, "That's a Kubrick film! Everyone can see something different in it!"
I’ve had lunch with him 7 or 8 times before he died and I always said.
He would always crease his brow. As I would blow my bad breathe on him.
There aren't enough good caretakers around these days
Ain’t that the truth!
Something I've noticed in "The Shining" is the presence of books. In the Torrances' apartment there are a lot of books and all over the place: books on shelves and books in stacks and even Danny has a collection in his room. I'll have to look again but I think the bathroom in the apartment is the only space there without books in it. In the caretaker's quarters there are books again. Maybe I missed it but I don't think we see in the movie a single bookshelf that has all the books standing upright in a row. I suspect this is to show the disarray and instability of the Torrances's life together. It would be interesting to know why when we first see Wendy she's reading "Catcher in the Rye". I don't know a lot about Stanley Kubrick but I know enough that the Salinger novel is there for a reason.
The doesn't-line-up interior/exterior of the Overlook Hotel makes me think of the Crain mansion in Shirley Jackson's "The Haunting of Hill House". It's been a while since I read the novel but my recollection is that Hill House had been built to be confusing and to be slightly "off" and disorienting and unsettling though for what reason I don't recall---if any reason was ever given. Hill House and the Overlook Hotel (a hill house in its own way) have some differences between them but still have a lot in common. Something else that would be interesting to know is whether Shirley Jackson's mansion inspired Stephen King's hotel
I've never heard or read anyone sayng so but I think the Overlook, though not real, has some of the most beautiful interiors I've ever seen. I could stay there a long time and not grow tired of it though I'm not sure I'd want to be there "...forever...and ever...and ever"!
Shelley Duvall has been mocked or criticized for her performance in "The Shining" but I think she was right on the money in her portrayal of someone married to an alcoholic and an abuser who is mentally unbalanced. I agree when it's been said that Wendy was the kind of person an abuser would marry. As time has gone by and there's more knowledge about addiction and about domestic violence I hope that there's more understanding of appreciation for Ms. Duvall's performance.
There is a channel called Shining Insights, and he has a video about The Catcher in the Rye in the movie. The page Wendy is reading is the one where Holden Caulfield asks a girl friend to run off with him to an isolated cabin. She says no. Caulfield is having a nervous breakdown, so, he is like Jack. Also, the description of the girl friend sounds a lot like Wendy.
I do like the theory that much of what we see is part of Jack Torrance's novel he's trying to write while overcoming writer's block. This could explain the inconsistencies in the set design.
Or perhaps Wendy was reading the novel
Jack wears a different outfit while writing in one scene than the outfit where Jack is throwing the ball.
@@jeffreywillstewart Yup. I think the typewriter changes too.
The shirt Danny was wearing could be a call back to the honey mooners. In the show the main character would should that he would send his wife ' to the moon' when he was angry at her.
I'll take that over a fake moon landing any day.
The music in the beginning is beautiful. Great way to start the video and get you in the mood. Amazing video
Thanks for the comment! I love that song. It's called "Welcome, Traveler" by Artificial.Music.
@@CaretakerWanted yeah i saw it in the description! Keep up this great content! You deserve so much more fame
@@CaretakerWantedI have a question. What is the 1930s music playing during the video?
@@Beedostudios3721 It's called "Midnight with the Stars and You" by Al Bowlly. Needless to say, I only knew of the song by searching for the film's soundtrack, lol. Also, hey, man, I appreciate the kind words. I guess I'm doing something right on this channel!
@@CaretakerWanted thanks and you sure are! I remember this song from the bathroom in the shining
I knew after I figured out that Loyld was the devil the moment that jack says, "I would give my god dang soul for a glass of beer." He says that loyld appeared as well as all the alcohol. Jack recognized immediately Loyld took a drink and the deal was sealed and now the hotel has him as you said. Your money is no good here. Money meaning his soul.
What about how his eyes rolled back and he stared blankly for some time right after he took the drink🥃?
@@need-to-know- It is foreshadowing. Jack's expression after taking the drink is identical to the one on his face after he freezes to death.
@@donnamaree4920 Wendy doesn't react to any booze on his breath, though, and bourbon STINKS
@@RideAcrossTheRiver Of course not. Jack wasn't actually drinking liquor, it was all a product of his imagination as he created the protagonist for his book whom is actually the Jack we see for most of the movie. Kubrick shows us in no uncertain terms when Wendy runs into the Gold Room that, not only is Jack alone and there is no booze on the shelves, but Jack is slumped over as though in a trance/dream until Wendy shakes him. In fact, we see numerous times throughout the film where Jack is sleeping right before he encounters a "ghost" which shows the audience that these interactions are merely the product of a dream, all of which he draws from for his book (which is actually what we're watching play out for the bulk of the film in my opinion). The first time we see Jack sleeping, he's in bed when Wendy wakes him up with breakfast indicating the previous scene was a dream. When Danny goes to get his toy from the caretaker's apartment, his mother says "don't wake Daddy" indicating that Jack is indeed asleep during the proceeding, unsettling scene with Danny. Jack is later shown having a nightmare at his desk when Wendy hears his screams and comes running from the boiler room to check on him, he tells her he had a disturbing dream where he kills her and Danny and "chops them up into little pieces" which I believe is what we see later in the film where he "runs amok" with the axe - this was the dream Jack had in the Colorado Lounge (in fact, there are strong indicators that there are a couple of other scenes shown out of sequence). Right before Jack's encounter with the old woman in room 237 he is shown sleeping in the Gold Room, indicating the proceeding events are also a dream which is why he so convincingly informs Wendy he didn't see anything unusual in room 237. I believe he's telling the truth. Jack, in reality didn't see anything odd in there, the scene which took place in room 237 only occurred in his nightmare which was influenced by what was told to him by Wendy. Before Grady speaks to him from behind the locked pantry door, we again see Jack sleeping...Grady doesn't really speak to him, nor does he let him out of the pantry. Nothing that takes place from this point on actually happens in reality, it's all just "pictures in a book. It isn't real". In the first act, we see the "real" Jack - Jack the writer. He and Wendy hold hands, they are jovial, Jack is relatively normal and interacts well with Danny, nothing seems amiss and throughout the tour of the hotel we never see the maze like carpet (because this part of the hotel doesn't actually exist in the "real" Overlook - all of the decor is done in an Native American style motif, no garish colours/geometric patterns can be seen anywhere, they only appear later in one of Jack's "fever dreams" involving Danny). The majority of the second act, what we're seeing are Jack's dreams which fuel his imagination for the writing of his book - which makes up the entire third act. When Wendy interrupts Jack in the Colorado Lounge as he is typing, we see next to his typewriter the scrapbook containing the newspaper clippings detailing the triple murder/suicide committed by Grady. It is only THEN we see Jack snap for the first time as we're introduced to Jack, the CHARACTER, who shares the same characteristics as the murderous Grady. Notice when he talks to Wendy she is standing in front of a reflective surface, as are all the "ghosts" he converses with. After screwing up the paper and throwing it to the floor before reprimanding Wendy for interrupting him, we see him staring blankly ahead, there is NO paper on the floor and Wendy is nowhere to be seen...Jack resumes typing, he is WRITING this scene for his book, it never happened. From this point on, we rarely see the "real" Jack (writer Jack) and Kubrick gives us a huge visual clue in the form of his typewriter which is now a different colour for the rest of the movie.
It took well over a dozen viewings before I came to this conclusion, but all the clues are there and they're actually not subtle at all once you know what to look for.
@@donnamaree4920 Jack slurred his words drunkenly when Wendy told him of the "crazy woman" in Room 237. Of course, Jack was right; there was nobody there. But Jack was clearly drunk when Wendy ran into The -Cold- Gold Room.
This was GREAT!!!! 😊👍🏾 & Thanks for playing ALL of those theme music in the background!! (Except for that one music 🎵 that causes your ears to pop along with the original version!) 👍🏾🖤🖤🖤♥️❤️🤍🩸🪓🔪🥃👭😬🥶🤩
I like the theory that there are two Jacks, Jack the writer and Jack the character and this explains most of this.
You missed the two Grady’s theory, Charles and Delbert, one in the 1920s and the other in the 1970s.
Delbert (1920s ?) supposedly the lover and murderer of the woman in 237.
Both Grady’s are referenced as killing their families with an axe.
Could the 1920s photo of Jack be actually of Delbert, which could mean Jack assumes the role or persona of Grady, and the bathroom scene would be both Grady’s conversing.
You're definitely on the right track, only Grady wasn't the lover of the woman in room 237 (Lorraine Massey) who had a penchant for seducing young bell boys that worked at The Overlook, and she wasn't murdered, she committed suicide in the bath tub after one of her young lovers abandoned her.
Re-watch the scene in the bathroom...look at Jack's eyes as he speaks to Grady. They're not looking at Grady, but directly into the mirror at HIMSELF, which lends credence to this theory that they're one and the same.
The Empire Strikes Back fact was the most interesting one for me!👍
Danny's Ball rolled to him on the carpet and the next shot the pattern us reversed means they would either have to rip up the carpet and reverse it or lay a new carpet on top so its NOT a continuity error Stanley meant for the pattern to be reversed.
Amazing video. Thanks for making it.
Thanks, Paul!
I saw The Shining in a movie theater when I was 14. Still one of the most atmospheric movies I've ever seen. Scary as hell too! Would love to see this movie on the big screen again.
I think the two Jacks theory should have been included. The concept of writer Jack and the Jack character from his new book. Would explain the scenes that are real versus the fantasy (with missing furniture, changing lampshades, etc). Fun learning some new facts, thanks for sharing!
That's a neat one. This might be a false memory, but I feel like I remember hearing about that some time ago (after I made the video). Anyway, yeah, I would have included that for sure had I known about it. Thanks!
Someday I may get tired of analyses of "The Shining" but so far that hasn't happened!
Very interesting ideas here. I found especially interesting the idea that Wendy may have been the caretaker.
Something I've noticed and that has been commented on elsewhere is that in a Gold Room scene a woman in a gown walks away from the camera and on the back of her dress, at her derriere, is a handprint, maybe blood? No one else has commented on this but in the movie version of "Carrie and, I think, in the novel too, we see and read about how after Carrie's menstrual cycle begins and the gym teacher helps her, there is a bloody handprint on the teachers white gym shorts.
This may be a long shot but I'll mention it: the Gold Room (one of the most beautiful rooms ever seen in a movie) bears a strong resemblance to the Art Deco nightclub the Club Leviathan that was one of the First Class public rooms aboard the ocean liner Leviathan. The Leviathan started out as the Vaterland under the German flag, was seized in 1917 to become the troopship Leviathan then after the war she remained under the American flag with the same name and went back to passenger service. The Club Leviathan replaced an earlier public room, maybe a Ritz Carlton restaurant that had been in that space and decorated in a completely style.
10/10 mate, keep up the good work👌
Wow, this video was great. Subscribed
Thanks, Liam!
I prefer the other infante terrible Ken Russell. Kubrick leaves important info out to keep people talking about them. Ken hits you over the head with his vision. But his masterpiece The Devils, was banned for the religious overtones.
During the interview at the end there is a small white spot on jacks tie (which has the maze on it). It is not there until the end of the interview. Only can think it represents Jack frozen in the maze.
Oh wow, thanks, Daniel! That's very cool to hear.
@@CaretakerWanted Great video BTW. Really enjoyed it.
The truth of a thing is the feel of it, not the think of it.
- Stanley Kubrick
I love that quote!
I loved your theory, maybe the Grady also said that silly phrase and sold hos soul for a beer and he ended upursering his family.
Worth noting as well that the doll that Danny drops in the lobby is a Golliwog, a historical black face doll.
That’s was Danny’s doll from home and he still is a vocal advocate for the term nigger
That's crazy, Shelly played 127 times the scene, alone, on her own, a monologue... I'm happy Nicholson wasn't part of this scene...
wow good video i really love kubricks art he is an underrated genius
I wouldn’t say he’s underrated, he’s extremely well-known and respected
Shelley was* so beautiful
She’s definitely had a rough life.
Yes, there are too many "explanations" and too few analyses of this movie. With analysis I mean how Kubrick & co works to create certain moods with cinematography, sound, acting, editing etc.
I would love to see videos about that.
there's constantly more to learn about this movie, I love it
A good starting point for those who really wants to delve into the mysteries of this film.Have you seen The Shining backwards and forwards?
No, I haven't! But, looking at pictures people have shared, it's interesting.
@@CaretakerWanted th-cam.com/video/sdzeeVTxJk4/w-d-xo.html. Try this one.
well a cycle begins and ends at the same point
The fact that the opening credits run "backwards" lends credence to this theory, though I don't buy it for a multitude of reasons...not least of all because I have a better theory!
@@donnamaree4920 let me know are you on twitter?
Jack Nicholson playing Jack Torrance is drinking Jack Daniels (Time 18:08)
Dun dun dun :)
The mini series is pure s***. Who rewatches that?! Kubrick created a masterpiece that will live on!
I should have put more emphasis into that part being a joke. It’s a 0/10 .
If you look at the zoomed out image of the maze, you can almost see a cartoonish outline of a Minotaur. I’ve seen some people compare Jack to one at the end of the film due to a poster that shows up earlier but I’ve never seen people talk about the Minotaur outline
I’ve heard about that on a Shining video somewhere. I think it might have had to do with proving/disproving the fan theory film.
Great work, great video. As conspiracy theories go, all of the wrong ones are conspiracies. The correct one is not. You need to think harder about this movie but I still love your video. Cheers
The Wendy Theory really intrigues me. The fact that Kubrick was known for being a perfectionist and there are a number or missing objects just does not make sense. Especially having shot a scene 127 times. Sadly, if you look too deep into it, it makes less and less sense.
Your last sentence sums it up perfectly. I feel that way too many people look so deep into these things that it ends up not making any sense.
In Re: The Wendy Theory -- I have to disagree. The more you look into TWT (particularly aspects not covered in the Navarro video from a few years ago), it actually makes *more* sense, not less. There's so much subtextual analysis to support that it's Wendy who has been mentally unstable for years now, with many of the scenes/attributions made relative to Jack actually having been done by her -- dislocating Danny's arm, for instance -- but with her usually having been in a fugue state and not realizing what she was doing. (Sidenote example: in a couple different analyses, including one that was suggested to me in a long discussion among some friends back in '89, Wendy could likely have actually killed Jack at the staircase scene; instead of having dragged his body to the pantry, which others have noted for decades as being a physically daunting feat for a woman of her size/build, she could have more credibly dragged him just outside, leaving his body by some bushes, et al, at a much shorter distance *but* having hallucinated dragging him to the pantry, as well as hallucinating much/most of what followed.)
The mistake that some people have made relative to TWT, in whichever analyses, is in thinking it is the "real" answer to what is happening in the film -- it likely isn't. What it *does* do, however, is "square the circle" of various narrative mirrors that exist across the film: whereas Jack is essentially depicted as a sociopathic narcissist who inflicts harm on others in several analyses, and Danny in still others is hallucinating much of the film while having his frequent undiagnosed seizures, Wendy serves the mirror of being mentally unstable/prone to hallucinations who commits violent or neglectful acts but unlike with Jack does so in a mental fugue-state where she hallucinates others being "x" and responds accordingly. (In at least one other analysis I'm aware of, where Jack is several hours dead when Holloran returns, it's Wendy who is "wandering in a maze", and she's the one who killed him -- the blood on her knife isn't Jack's but Hollaran's, and she hallucinated finding his body which she herself had stabbed just moments earlier.) There really is a lot going on there relative to TWT, just as much as there is for several of the other non-supernatural analyses ("Jack's Just Insane", or "It's all part of Jack's Novel", or "Danny is having Seizures and is Hallucinating", and others) that also have strong contextual support, too.
Then he suddenly comes out with "White Man's Burden" from out of nowhere.
i definitely think the continuity errors are very deliberate, but not to signify a specific characters viewpoint- like the wendy theory. It makes it unsettling to watch without you pinpointing what is unsettling...all the characters are unreliable narrators and the weird lack of continuity in the hotel is showing that. you think you are seeing events happen quickly one after another, but the time references put in the film are deliberately vague and one scene that looks like it follows directly from another could easily have had longer time inbetween. Halloran shows them the freezer, but when they exit it it's on the opposite side of the hall from where they started...to me, it looks like we were spared the interval of time from him showing the first freexer, and him finishing up on the last freezer, across the hall. the effect is it feels a little disorientating and like Danny with his first vision, we lose time and can't account for it. I'd also put forward that Danny has no shine, other than a person who has been abused will shine out to another person who has experienced similar abuse. the way Scatman acts that scene is like an adult counsellor probing a child for signs of abuse, and Danny is unreliably interpreting what is being asked of him. Halloran is confused by a lot of what danny says that you'd think a legitimate mindreader wouldn't need the clarification for. The way Wendy, Jack and Danny are played by the respective actors is very much the dynamic of a long term abusive relationship that has gone on for longer and with worse cruelties than admitted to in the film by characters themselves. it's what makes this film so ingenius is that it legitimately can be seen as a story of a narcissistic abuser taking his family to a remote location and finally trying to destroy them when his abuse is about to be exposed. Shelley portrayed an incredibly accurate and subtle depiction of a wife who had been in an abusive relationship for years, Jack a very real depiction of a narcissist who is feeling undermined. Because that kind of nuance is not anticipated in a horror i think that's why people felt the performances were bad, at the time. I'm not saying it's definitively a non supernatural film, just that Kubric very deliberately made it so both interpretations are valid, with supported visual and contextual evidence, on screen. The political aspect, Native American Genocide...He definitely included lots of imagery and sound that would point to that part of history, but i think the reasoning is - Jack is an abusive manipulative man with delusional entitlement, the genocide and other atrocities are committed by men like this and they get vengeful when confronted on their entitlement
Yeah I know what you mean ,you bring up some good points , but one scene in particular when Danny and Jack are talking on the bed together, a lot of people think Danny looks afraid of Jack, but I think that’s just Danny’s personality, he’s never excited or happy
GREAT MOVIE .. kubrick might have been a little harsh on wendy but either you do your job right or get out ! kubrick is the director not wendy
Your channel name is hilarious 😂 😃
Haha glad you feel that!
@@CaretakerWanted hello Lloyd!
PS anyone notive the tapestry over the fireplace resembles booster rockets. Tying into the apollo 11 theory?
@@jamesbyrne9312Yes. Also, I have never used a typewriter but the L's in All work and no play..... they certainly look more like the digit 1. A11 work and no play.....
Not All. Not ALL. but A11?
That is all I have. That and the gold room certainly looks like the inside of a nice golden coffin/casket?
Crazy shit man.
@@CoreyW6292 hahaha yeag
It's also related to the cult of Dionysus. Madness, alcohol, mazes, possessed women, on and on. Oh and the minotaur.
I’m sure it’s already been said, but working the actors to death probably was why so many takes were needed. Jeez! I thought the Arrowverse actors had it bad. Well…support the actors strike.
The scene where Wendy picks Danny up was maybe a dummy, because it was easier for her to lift. But the close-up scene of her holding Danny is not a dummy. Look at the right hand cliched in a fist. That's a real hand. Furthermore, if you watch very closely as she is backing up, the right thumb moves, and the next scene the thumb is no longer clinched in the fist, but straightened out.
It's Mr. Kubrick's own version of his 'Shining's journey..the poster with the yellow background and the terrifying face in reverse white was Stanley's face, Jack Torrance Jack Nicholson, Danny Lloyd/ Torrance, Llyod the bartender..see the pattern? Continuity problems, it wasn't Wendy , its Jack and Danny slowly merging with the overlook ...
So you're suggesting that Kubrick cast Danny Lloyd solely on the basis that his names were the same as the child protagonist and bartender in King's novel? That's quite a leap...
Maybe he chose to direct The Shining because he shared the same initials as Stephen King!
The part of what you said about Mr Ullman at the deleted scene at the hospital, 🏥 threw that ball 🥎 to Danny & laughed. The SAME mysterious ball that rolled on the floor towards Danny, that Mr Ullman may ACTUALLY KNOW SOMETHING about that sinister Overlook Hotel, actually gave me the Creeps & some Shivers! 😬🥶😬🥶❄️🌬️🌨️👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾😉👌🏾🥃🍹🧊🚪🪓🩸🩸🩸👭😈😱🛀☝️🧸⚾
Exactly!
I’ve always assumed Stuart Ullman was the devil, and the overlook a type of hell, like the hotel California, you can check in anytime you like, but you can never leave…
Wendy theory is the best. Dont believe me? Watch the video, and now the other video going more in depth about it.
The images from the beginning (helicopter) scene are exactly the same as the images from the end scene of Blade Runner !!
I think ulman could have been usesd more, hence I quite like the alternate ending.
There is a lot of Eagle symbols.
best actress. !
An iceberg video on The Shining that only lasts 18 minutes? Surely some mistake.
Iceberg?
It’s a video format where information on the top (i.e. tip of the iceberg) is well known, and the further you go down the more obscure or unknown the trivia becomes.
@@CaretakerWanted Aha! Cool. Thanks.
Great video! I learned more about the film than I knew
Thank youuuuu!
…Right now I want to understand English…
How can you say he made Tony up? Tony is in the book lol
Teddy Bears. OMG Teddy Bears in Eyes Wide Shut, final scene where their daughter is taken away.
Kubrick DESTROYED Steven King's novel. Why does a kid have an Apollo 11 T shirt? Why the weird scene with a Giant teddy bear? Why are panda bears associated with pedophilia? Qanon was not a term when this film was invented.
Rusty water. I grew up on rusty well water. Before most people had big filters to take the rust out. Our laundered clothing would get more and more rusty looking.
It’s like the story of Flint, Michigan. Give it up for the news to abandon their story.
The music is really distracting. Turn it down or off pls!
At this time I didn’t know the video condenser “Handbrake” that I used was the cause of increasing the volumes. For the longest time I kept wondering what the hell was causing the music to increase and pitch. I eventually realized there was an audio component in HandBrake that allowed the sound to be unaffected.
@@CaretakerWanted
I see. Yeah the background music is kind of loud in a few parts. Great video otherwise. The cheese sandwich info was new to me! Ha
I don’t think her acting was bad as much as unsettling and probably purposely so it makes you fear for their son more if she was gi jane it wouldn’t of had the same affect
You sound just like Randall from Clerks, who was also a lover of fine cinema. Coincidence? I think not.
Thought this was obvious, but me saying the Mini-Series is a 10/10 was a joke.
Oh, thanks I thought you were being sarcastic, I just wasn't sure. I would never doubt the verisimilitude of a you tuber.
The holocaust one is actually not a theory but confirmed by on set assistants.
Shelley Duvall was a professional. Nicholson is method and I'm sure Kubrick encouraged it. Duvall knew what Kubrick was about, it was no secret in the industry. They couldn't have possibly known how vulnerable she was or Kubrick could have found someone else. I am sorry about Duvall's emotional health. Kubrick gave her a part that a hundred other actresses would have killed for and been happy to embrace the hardship of working with Kubrick. I am sorry she couldn't handle it. It's not Kubrick's fault.
Shelly used to be so hot.
not really a fan of this commentary.
The story having a native american allegory isn't a tin foil hat conspiracy- it would be more of an art form and allegories like this aren't uncommon in film.
Shelly Duvell wasn't just stressed out because Kubrick was a perfectionist. Kubrick was purposely terrorizing her and told the set and actors not to talk to her to drive her into a mental state that was supposed to help her act the character and act like she had no self esteem.
I used to have a computer game when I was a child called Digby the Dog that Shelly Duvall worked on, did lots of the voices , and wrote all the songs for =)
Appreciate the honesty. That's a fair point with the Native American idea not being considered a 'tinfoil conspiracy'. I still think it's outlandish, but I will agree it shouldn't fall under tinfoil. I did not know Shelly worked on a game! That's cool to hear.
That bar scene might have been on the Titanic
Why on Earth would that be the case, lol?
Please, not "the Wendy theory"... It is such a b...shit!!!
Totally agree.
Stephen King's books are over rated.
I can see that. Stephen King can get reeaalllyyy detailed in his descriptions of settings to where people can find it hard to follow what's happening exposition-wise. I’m just tossing a guess there.
I remember reading the book after the movie and man I couldn’t get though it
@CaretakerWanted I don't mind detail but u have to give me a reason to care.
There was no Final Solution, 42, blah blah blah. If you are old enough to remember, the Holocaust story has changed a thousand times over the years and still keeps changing.
So you're a Holocaust denier?
Shelley Duvall was the most unattractive yet talented actress.
Thumbs down for giving that horrible mini-series 10/10 and for your headache inducing virtue signaling
The 10/10 was a joke.
Dude he was being sarcastic
@@nosuchthing8 uhh do you think dude, like totally like the bra has said that several tubular times to everyone who has like said what I like said dude, even like above dude... I mean dipshit