How Kubrick Adapted ‘The Shining’ into a Cinematic Masterpiece | Screenwriting
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Whenever I think of The Shining, I’m always amazed by the sheer number of iconic moments in a single movie. So, I wanted to take a look at the writing process and see how we ended up with such a masterpiece of cinema. Now, there have been plenty of great videos on The Shining as well as videos specifically about the script, but I want to go deeper. What exactly is happening from a storytelling perspective?
What was it like to collaborate with Kubrick on this screenplay? How did the movie wind up so different than Stephen King’s original novel? How close did they stick to the screenplay during production? What were Kubrick’s thoughts on horror? All that and more on this episode of Making Film...
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This video essay was written, edited, and narrated by Tyler Knudsen.
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The Shining - Frozen Material: Stanley Kubrick’s Adaptation of Stephen King’s Novel by Ursula Von Keitz
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“Stanley Kubrick: New Perspectives” Ed. Richard Daniels
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King criticized Kubrick for his representation of Wendy, however by the end of the movie she is the true hero, finally standing up to Jack and ultimately saving Danny. And even throughout the movie adaptation, she took care of everything - maintenance, meals, attending to Jack and Danny. She was much stronger than people think.
King also portrayed her as a very beautiful blond. I just don't think that would have worked in the film and, to be honest, I don't think it really works in the book once one realises what Jack Torrance is actually like.
@@ivorbiggun710 It didn't work in the TV series, anyways. It just became too romantic and cheesy lol. In the movie, Wendy is a fair representation of someone who's been mentally abused for years.
king's characterization is not preferable (in the book she's a ballbuster, and that's it).
@@ivorbiggun710 except in the book Jack is TRYING to be better for his wife and son. He loves them deeply. His fall isn't the inevitable descent of a crazy person into crazier lunacy, but the erosion of a man with flaws who is attempting to fix them by a supernatural entity exploiting those flaws.
@@briancrocker3377 it was sad near the end of the book when Jack came back to himself one last time telling Danny to run and that everything was going to be ok, Danny felt so GUILTY about leaving his father behind to die. I actually felt like crying because Jack had no control of his possession and truly didn’t want to kill Wendy or Danny (he tried so hard to be the best for the two.) Danny felt like he could help his father escape, but knew that even if they did save him, Jack would have felt guilty and would be mentally traumatized forever, possibly ending his marriage (which Danny was scared about since he could read his parents thoughts.) It was a sad experience since any ending would have been horrible no matter how you went about it.
.. "incedently, Kubrick was offered to direct the exorcist but turned it down."
My god that would have been the freakiest thing ever put to screen.
Meme Man I was goddamn chocked when he said that! But it was definitely for the better, because now we got The Shining, and The Exorcist is a masterpiece as well. Ironically, it’s one of Kubrick’s favorite films.
No you Yes, I believe you are.
No you Yeah, I know. But I don’t think that King ever really was a huge fan of Kubrick. Although, I didn’t mean it as an insult to you.
No you I also don’t believe that he was really against him, just not a huge fan.
that's really sucks
I actually think Wendy is an incredibly strong character and not weak. After all she doesn’t crack up living in isolation for months, Jack does. She never complains or shows Jack her insecurities. She is completely selfless and puts everyone before herself. She has absolutely no ego.
She's very sensitive and emotionally fragile, but she has an incredibly strong character that sees her through once it gets its footing. But it takes a while for the switch to occur.
@@Theomite I think someone else said this before, but she is a weak and passive person...who overcomes it. A weak person becoming strong is much more interesting than a strong person being strong.
She was certainly stronger than Jack since she survived the assault by Jack and the Overlook ghosts in both the book and the film. I think Kubrick made her "appear" weak to make her seem more vulnerable, a victim. Even the way she holds the bat suggests a person who has little or no experience in sports or competition. In actuality she was both a victim and survivor of long-term domestic abuse. Much more compelling and multi-dimensional than the book IMO. Fuck what Stephen King has been bitching about, I think Kubrick's Wendy is in no way misogynistic.
People didn't like Shelley Duvall's Wendy because she's so different from the book and people somehow connect the word "different" to the word "inferior". Someone else on TH-cam mentioned that most people would have similar reactions if they were in Wendy's situation in real life but they like to think they would handle a murderous, axe wielding maniac with more dignity. Maybe a few exceptionally brave souls would - war veterans come to mind - but most people would be scared shitless. Stanley Kubrick, who was a brilliant filmmaker but was also a manipulative and abusive asshole towards his performers, did everything he could to genuinely frighten Shelley Duvall. She still has the mental scars 40 years later so when she looks scared in the movie, that fear is real.
She beat his ass with that bat
What I love most is some of the most iconic moments, like *"HERE'S JOHNNY!"* are completely improvised
Agreed. Good directors let the actors collaborate on making the scenes better!
They did it to get the maximum reaction out of Wendy. She had no idea what the plan was the whole time.
Thank you for showing Diane Johnson's contribution to this great work of art.
This video really made me think about The Shining and how it was written and translated to film. In many ways, it supports what I've always thought about books to film adaptations. Because films are mostly visual, you will never be able to interpret the book to match a film version perfectly. For one, as a reader, you develop your own interpretation of what's going on in the story within your own mind. No two people will experience a book the same way. So, to expect a film adaptation of a book to satisfy everyone is not only impossible, but insanely unrealistic.
Not necessarily so.
THE GODFATHER film is a significant improvement over the source material book and there are several others including
~ PSYCHO
~ THE GRADUATE
~ JAWS
~ STARSHIP TROOPERS
To name only a few, There are many more.
VFX Todd this is why I never watch the movie if I've read the book. I know it can't live up to my imagination
The Godfather novel is pulp. Even Puzo admitted he wrote it as a quickie to earn cash because he was struggling to make a living as a serious writer. In the history of literature, it is remembered only because it as the source material of one of the great American films
I disagree. Sometimes a film can tell a story so successfully that it completely
changes the perception of the story you may have had as a reader.
And a great film can even have such an impact that its images become imprinted
on the minds of people, and those images become the new accepted standard for
what that particular story is "supposed" to look like.
Mind you, it doesn't happen often. ;)
My point was that no two people can perceive or interpret the story from a book the same way, that when translated to film they both have the same experience as they did from the book. A great film doesn't tell the story the way it was "supposed" to, it tells the story however the filmmakers chose to tell the story. You can't impose a standard of a story on an audience simply because you created a film that others perceive as great or good.
Just look at all the fans of books that cry whenever they see a film version that they insist didn't tell the story "right". Fans make the mistake of assuming that they know what details were the most important to include in the film version of the book's story, forgetting that no film could possible capture all of the details and plot turns from the book.
I remember when the film came out (and I should as I was a "gopher" on the film during the exterior shoots in Colorado as an eighteen-year-old) and King hated "what Kubrick did" to his book. I had read his book and realized immediately that it would have made a terrible movie had anyone tried to shoot it like the book even if that were possible - and it wasn't. A great experience for me as a kid and a real insight into both Kubrick's extraordinary attention to detail as well as his voluminous temper. No, he didn't set foot in Colorado as he was, famously, afraid to fly so sent his 2nd unit director, Brian Cook, D.P. John Alcott and art director, Jan Harlan (a really lovely man) in his place. I could hear him yelling on the phone back at the motel before the day's shoot began and, on more than one occasion caught the second-hand anger from Brian or John, myself. Kubrick films weren't exactly relaxed or even very happy sets. But he was a fantastic director, wasn't he? The Shining has actually gotten more respect with time than when it first came out. I have always seen its flaws pretty clearly; it isn't a perfect film, but it's still one of the few truly great films in the horror genre.
Mr Kennerly, Wow! Good comments. How interesting! And what a great experience so early in your career. (How'd you get the job?). Get on yr comp and leave a longer comment.
I've seen the movie a few times and just seeing these little snippets from the film have me rattled!
That woman in the tub... 😨😨😨😨😨
ABC made a tv movie the shining based on book with Steve weber/rebecca demornay trying to show what book was about. I saw the movie first and movie was very scary for a young boy.
Stephen King is a bit of a Hack. He used to think he could make movies...until he tried it and found out it wasn't as easy as he thought. Made one of the worst movies of all time.
Yeah, it wasn't shot in Colorado at all 😂 Nice try though.
I love the song "Midnight, The Stars, and You" from The Shining
If you've ever seen Lolita, you know Sellers is doing an impression of Kubrick as Claire Quilty. Perfect impression.
"Lolita" I watch every few months or so. Ditto Dr. Strangelove and 2001, A Space Odyssey.
As always, fantastic video once again Tyler. Your works on Kubrick are unparalleled on TH-cam or otherwise, it's like watching a 20 minute documentary, please never stop
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*Same initials* :
Stanley Kubrick, Stephen King
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King's novel was inspired by his stay at The Stanley Hotel.
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SC Santa clause, Scott Calvin. Same initials. 😂
i have to disagree with your point about jack and wendy's back story not being relevant for one reason. in the book, jack isnt evil, hes just in the middle, the hotel is evil and uses him as a tool to do what it wants, while in the movie jack is more evil, the hotel just sort of goads him, aids him. this is the main difference between the two and why i personally enjoy the book more, at the end jack tells danny he loves him before the hotel takes over and jack smashes his own face in giving the hotel full control. also stephen king has said the main difference he sees is that at the end of his book, the boiler explodes and the whole hotel gets destroyed, while in kubricks it freezes. sort of a dark story with a semi bright ending, versus just a dark story, not that either are inherently better.
He wasn't evil, but he was hard to like. Sabotaged every opportunity to better himself and takes his wife and kid with him. Jack Torrence is a douche.
To each his own obviously. Jack isn't really "evil" to any extent beyond that we know he hurt Danny's arm while drunk so he's no father of the year. I like that the hotel remained standing in the movie and then you see Jack's picture hanging in the Lobby from another lifetime and you know that this whole thing is going to play out again, probably over and over.
Jack is an abusive alcoholic. May be that's not exactly evil, but it's heading down that road.
@@barbarasmith6005 but in the book he is trying to get better, and his love for his family is evident. That isn't the case in the movie. His fall in the book is tragic, as you are going he can fight off the hotel and save himself and his family. In three movie he's barely above a Mike Myers or Jason Voorhees
i think the reason the film is a masterpiece is that you cannot know if jack is evil, or if the hotel is. like it says in the video, the mystery and the stimulating of the audience's imagination without an actual answer IS the effect, an answer just ruins it. duality of meaning has never been one of King's strengths
It’s between hereditary and the shining for my favorite horror film. Truly one of the best looking and most atmospheric and deep movies.
Hereditary is good if you ignore the fucking atrocious last 15 minutes of the film
I saw the movie before I read the book. I enjoyed the book, but it's no literary masterpiece. Kubricks film however, is a cinematic masterpiece.
Absolutely loathed the miniseries.
I enjoyed the miniseries. No its not better than kubricks version at all yet i liked the miniseries lol king is my fav writer yet hes completely wrong about his hatred of kubricks version. Like the video said kubrick stripped away all the "fluff" from the book and focused more on the terrifying aspects and the film was a masterpiece no matter how King feels about it. The best king miniseries is Storm of the Century then The Stand
@@chanelhenderson8460 what do you by all the ''fluff''?
@@darnellmajor9016 kubrick cut out what he thought wasnt needed for the movie. Its mentioned that he didnt like the hedge animals coming to life. Well i didnt either i read the book seen kubricks version of i dunno 700 times and seen the miniseries. He also cut out why jack got fired wendys isssues with her mom and so on and so forth "fluff" was just a term to symoblize what Kubrick didnt want in the film. Could be called filler too whatever works i guess?
Darnell Major all the unimportant details. You don’t need to see hedge animals come to life to understand it’s a spooky place. You can tell from the girls who just want to play.
@@Prince_Luci it's important NOT to see hedge animals come to life.
I've never seen anything so unintentionally comical; they look like pigs grubbing about in a field.
I think Kubrick like Ken Russell made every film an Experience....you always feel like you've gone through something rather than just watching a film 😎👍
Make a video about a clockwork orange
Read the book lad.
Omg I love that movie!
It's just myself, so it is. Why do you say that?
Read the book and seen the film. Like both for different reasons.
Who is excited for this video? This guy. I love Kubrick, I love King, I love The Shining and I love you too Tyler.
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Soon tba, The Disney nursery crimes._. After Donald and mickey are done playing president and vice president .
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Kubrick style of horror or psychological thrillers have a very abstract feel to them in their creations, his insular use of the weird and unnatural make him such a unique and totally original director. Using human pschyy and their anxietys , by planting the seed of fear visually on the screen in the audiences mind , it then manifests in their fears, and grows in their own imaginations. He was a master at manipulating the audience, and captivating in his execution to detail and the process of squeezing every drop of energy from every scene. Genius
he was offered to Direct The Exorcist! so much as i love stanley, i think Friedken nailed it..that was his
loved this dude, keep it up
leave me alone!
Jesus, guy. This MAY BE the best, most riveting exploration into film/story architecture I’ve ever seen on YT. If this doesn’t get me to sub, nothing will. Hats off to YOU, sir!
👏👏
15:56 That's my favorite part of the movie, when Hollaran gets it, it was so unexpected and sudden.
Terrific job! There's a lot of Shining videos on TH-cam, but I like how you dive deep with behind the scene stories. Kubrick is always an interesting topic.
Never stop doing kubrick analysis videos. They're so good
I've seen a number of videos about this film but I appreciated the fresh perspective in this one.
I always wonder what it would be like if Robin Williams played Jack since he was chosen first. Now that would have been interesting to see a funny guy like that turned into a killer, its like seeing a darker version of Popeye which he and Shelly did together. Maybe he might pop somebody's eye out.
speaking of characters....I think Kubrick liked Sissy Spacek's character in 1976 "Carrie". Shelley Duvall look was just the same, meek and weak.
Well at least we got Insomnia
Shazbot, Wendy!
"One Hour Photo" is as close as you can get in seeing an insane Robin Williams.
He is just the perfect example of turning someone from a babyface to a heel.
Can we appreciate how there’s old music playing in the background, it fits so amazingly.
one damned search and i'm bombarded with the shining video essays.
nice vid btw
Love your channel, wish you posted more often but I'm sure these take a long time to put together. Congrats on the increasing sub count!
You can't make enough Kubrick videos. Very detailed!
Thanks!
Love the talk of all the different endings they had. Esp Wendy killing Jack and then Grady walks over to hallorann grinning saying "good evening chief". Classic
I like it how you used the carpet design of the hotel as a backdrop at some points in this video
Now this is some quality video! You can tell that you put a lot of effort in making this one and it really really pays off (or of, i'm Dutch and i'm too lazy to check the right 'of'). Great video, just loved it!!
It's "off". It usually is: Pay off, piss off, lay off, rip off, fuck off, etc.
Kubrick is the best example to an artist, any kind of artist, of how to develop a method for creating quality work.
I wonder what would have the exorcist looked like if Kubrick had directed it
I think it could have been great. Although I like it as is.
Banana Man he was suppose to direct the Exorcist?!?!?
Fukkkkkk
@@dAdpool-lt2zh He was offered it, I believe, but turned it down.
No need for Kubrick on that one, William Friedkin created a masterpiece.
a lot better
Thank you again Cinema Tyler for doing this analysis. This contemporary culture needs you as the sick needs the medicine.
The 4th draft was really dark, but that would've been a real experience on film.
Topher S I'd love to see student films (or experimental films) recreate these scraped scenes.
One of my favorite movies ever.
Whoa!! Did anyone else notice there is a bloody hand print on the ass of the woman walking by 13:43 ? I've watched the film over a dozen times and never noticed it. Was it intentional?
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With Kubrick, it's probably wise to assume that every tiny detail is deliberate and well thought out in advance.
It's Stanley Kubrick, a perfectionist who was also one of the greatest cinematic geniuses, if not the greatest, in the history of filmmaking. Every single thing in the movie was part of his plan.
Except for the parts which are mistakes, which everyone tries to spin as deliberate, even after hearing him say in this very video that he's very open to coming up with things in the moment. The chair that vanishes and then reappears behind Jack when he's chewing out Wendy for interrupting him is just a mistake, probably due to a reshoot. As for the alleged handprint, it's hard to be sure looking at it here, but it could just be folds in the fabric creating shadows. It sure as hell doesn't have a thumb.
Even the parts that were mistakes work for the overall story. Kubrick deliberately moved some things around, like when Jack tore paper out of his typewriter and another piece magically appeared in its place. Either Jack or the Overlook "shined" a piece of paper in there while Jack was talking to Wendy. It's impossible to know how many of the little inconsistencies weren't deliberate but you can pinpoint a few that were if you look hard enough. Kubrick took what would normally be considered movie mistakes and used them to his advantage.
outstanding video! i found a lot of interesting parallels and contrasts in Kubrick's writing process relative to my own as i was reflecting on the video. definitely informed some new approaches i'm interested to try. small piece of feedback about your video production though- really well edited throughout, but leave your end slate up longer! i waited until you finished speaking before i moved to go check out your patreon & had to rewind back into the video to get the convenient link back. it's a small ease-of-use thing, but i'd hate to see a minor inconvenience cut off the potential of more patronage for your excellent channel. keep up the great work with your videos, i look forward to each one!
Thanks! Unfortunately the new end card editor only allows me to put the links up for the last 20 seconds of the video. I really wish annotations were still allowed.
I like how your background music evokes the Overlook Hotel. The amount of information on here is incredible as always.
The old women being The Grady Twins theory makes sense.
No it doesn't. The twins were murdered when they were children.
@solomon kane there is no such number in the book
@@dovermcmanus4595 yeah, just at the time when their father worked as overseer at the hotel... if he actually worked there at all
In the book the woman in room 217 was suicide.
Grady murdered his family in 1970 according to the story so that would mean the twins would be around 18 years old in 1980. Seems unlikely the twins where in room 237
Thiis was extremely interesting. The Shining is one of my favourite movies. I have watched it about 12 times and there is always something new to discover. Kubrick was a genius, and Nicholson is maybe the most charismatic actor ever. Shelly Duvall was perfect in her part. I am unable to imagine how the movie could have been improved. Hearing about all the alternatives they considered making the script it seems they consistently made the right choices.
That this film works on so many levels is scary enough. Kudos to Garrett Brown for his incredible steadicam work.
This was such a great video to watch :D I love character analysis and I enjoy story analysis (to a point, in this case, yes!) And I'm particularly fond of this movie. I think you did an awesome job, thank you very much!
This is an excellent effort and an amazingly altruistic and selfless effort to pull all this together and put it on TH-cam. It's simply a great gift for the rest of us. Thank you.
I think Kubrick had the mastery of responding to the solicitations of his continually evolving and refining perceptions regarding the structural features of the situation and he did so in such a way as to bring the situation closer to his sense of an optimal gestalt. That’s where Kubrick mastered himself.
As someone who had read this book before seeing the film, I felt in control watching the movie up to the moment Halloran is murdered. That was such a shock to my system I can remember thinking “that’s not fair (to the character)” & “are they all gonna die?”. I fully experienced the fear the unknown in the Overlook that the characters experience. In retrospect I have always felt that this is the Kubrick film that diminishes on rewatching for me, but its probably just the heightened shock of the derailed narrative on first viewing that destroyed me first-time around that cannot be replicated by rewatching. When you say the title of the movie to me, Halloran’s death is the first image that comes into my mind, not the elevator of blood or dead twins, probably because that’s the moment when hope dies and the story becomes real horror.
Its more than just a jump scare & that’s what cheap horror often misses. Its the dread that deeply moves us not the shocks.
King probably likes the film he just doesn't want to admit it since he's butthurt that Kubrick didn't want to collaborate with him. My theory.
You analyses make these film breath in new ways. Thanks for feeding our heads.
I would recommend that you watch “The Wendy Theory,” on you tube here. It involves Kubrick’s own under the surface way of telling a story. Kubrick as a chess player, has many stories going on at once in Shining. The Urben legend Apollo 11 confession story is in there as well.
Sweet! You have the best Kubrick vids Ty.
I really appreciate you using The Specials “Ghost Town” on this RIP Terry Hall.
Love King books, but they dont transfer well to film. They are too long, too much detail, and at times go way OTT which would look stupid on film.
The Shining is amazing, it falls into the small list of "the film better than the book"
I think Carrie(the original) was excellent, Stand By Me, Shawshank Redemption, and Misery all worked. "It" was okay but should have gotten the mini-series treatment. But, yeah, a lot of bad ones. Interestingly The Shining got bad reviews when it was released and I remember an audience cinemascore only gave it a C+.
Bart: "You mean SHINING*"
Willie: "Shh, you wanna get sued?"
Incredible video as always, you put a lot of effort in researching and arranging the video to present the information. Thank you very much.
At approx 9 minutes "mundane fantastic " like Johnny Depp in the tourist I saw that 8 times the weekend it came out! You should get an oscar for this post overwhelmingly brilliant!
To those that dislike the movie in favor of the book, remember that no one would be having discussions of the book decades later if Kubric wouldn't have made the movie. Kubric took a forgettable novel and made it into a movie that will be discussed more than all of Kings books combined.
King has written great books of varying topics, but I agree with The Shining being one of his weaker works. Kubrick simply took that which is good, distilled and amplified it to Nth degree.
I agree. I tried reading the book and I found it terribly trite and boring. I put it down after about 100 pages.
Stand by Me, IT, Shawshank Redemption are some of the best books and short-stories written by a popular author since Dickens. They will be talked about for decades and actually have. I agree that Kubrick's take on the Shining story is better however.
An excellent exploration of the creative process! I love it. Keep up the great work.
Incredible video. Thanks so much!
I am soooo impressed with your presentation and story-telling.
After watching several of your vids, I’m a sub and will soon be a Patreon member.
Thank you for time, effort and vision which is obviously of high caliber.
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I actually was sad at the end of the movie when Jack died, the ghost in the house or the house itself makes one of the family members kill their loved ones and if you watch the movie Jack is obviously the victim of becoming the killer, and in the end he dies, he dies the villain :( quite sad, as we saw, Jack was crying because he told Wendy he had a dream where he killed his family, and you can really tell he loved his family :(
That's the plot of the book yes, and would have been nice if Kubrick our even one iota of that on screen. There was no warmth towards his family from Jack, and he was crazy from the first moment he appeared on screen.
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I wonder what print of Kubrick’s _The Shining_ I first saw? To elaborate a little, I first saw this movie in ‘85 or ‘86 as a very young teen (around 13 or 14 years old) in Evanston, on Northwestern University’s campus, in their Norris Center theater… more than once over six years… and my recollection of the movie I saw then is _so different_ from the movie I saw later on VHS or even later on DVD or, decades later still, as a restored theatrical re-release… like, super-different. I remember seeing the helicopter’s shadow in those early tracking shots of the VW Bug headed to the Overlook, I swear up-and-down I remember a scene of Danny together with both the young and the decomposing bathtub lady in her room, I remember the initial scenes with Danny and Hallorann playing differently, more lengthily, and I remember the scene of Hallorann making his way back to the hotel also containing some bookending scenes that subsequent viewings didn’t contain. Weird. So Northwestern ran all sorts of things super-cheaply for their students (and collaterally for bold high school kids: no party or screening or event on campus would ever really ID that hard, so no one ever questioned my presence on campus anywhere - even when alcohol was served, even though I looked 12 well into my 20s - so my friends and I pretty much spent high school on Northwestern’s campus) and every semester they rented cheap and then screened a few, well-worn, busted-up prints of blockbuster movies that’d just left theaters… but they also ran _lots_ of arthouse, classic, “cult” and “midnight movie” types of films, that was about 95% of their programming, and those were also always projected from actual physical prints - this was _decades_ before digital projection was economically or even technologically feasible for chains, let alone for a student-run theater - and _who knows_ where they got their prints from?? Some they owned, some sat in a closet on campus 11 months out of 12, some did the rounds getting rented by sketchy local distributors to midnight theaters as well as to NU, some they “found” under mysterious circumstances… and I doubt very much the Northwestern University Norris Center Student Film Society (I forget what they were really called: the AO something) ever contacted MGM directly to offer up the loot for an official pristine print of anything… let alone for a print of a 1980 Kubrick horror film when he hadn’t even yet released anything since (this was a few years before _Full Metal Jacket_ was shot), so… I wonder if NU accidentally got their hands on some alternate print of _The Shining_ that Kubrick failed to capture and withdraw from circulation, maybe a test-audience print MGM surreptitiously made and then forgot about, maybe one of Kubrick’s withdrawn premiere prints, sent to a teetering theater that shuttered before the print could be sent back… and then maybe it sat, moldering, in someone’s uncle’s attic for a few years, before some indie second-run distribution firm won it at auction or something, and began circulating it again? Because I swear, the first several times I saw _The Shining,_ it was a different movie from what I later saw… and some early Kubrick edit, printed but withdrawn yet somehow escaping the furnace, to make it to auction and then to travel the midnight circuit, before lying forgotten somewhere on NU’s campus in the Norris Center’s basement offices… that might be worth someone’s time to research, if it truly reflects a different vision Kubrick had for the film, and not just my memory being wildly broken.
There aren't many directors I can think of who stuck rigorously to the ideas they first envisioned, and still
ended up with a fantastic end result. I suppose Hitchcock, Kurosawa and Tarkovsky belong in that rare
category, but it must be a very difficult thing to continously produce marvelous work without ever giving
in to the temptation of incorporating the ideas of others or spontaneous happy accidents that inevitably
occur on set during a shoot.
Personally, I'd prefer to do it the way Stanley did. I mean, it's one thing to be an auteur with a personal
vision, but if you completely dismiss the input of others, regardless of whose idea is the better, then it
becomes about selfish ego, which is rarely what's best for the film you're trying to make.
Almost no feature film is made by one man alone. It's, by practical necessity, a collaborative process,
very much like the running of a ship. You need a captain to make crucial decisions, but if the captain
refuses to listen to his crew, you're gonna hit the iceberg.
Anyway, I like The Shining as a book. But I think Kubrick improved on a lot of aspects of the story.
By cutting out silly things like the hedge animal sculptures/monsters, and telling the story as a tale
of extraordinary things happening within a fairly mundane setting, as seen subjectively through the eyes
of each character, he allows us, the audience, to experience what happens in the film in a seemingly
realistic way.
In "ordinary" horror films, you're watching the characters from a distance being scared. And by rooting
for them, you get scared when they find themselves in potentially dangerous situations.
And if that doesn't work, there's always the cheap jump scare tactic to employ.
But when you watch The Shining, YOU are feeling the frustrations of Jack, YOU are Wendy being terrified
in the bathroom and YOU are Danny running for his dear life inside the maze.
And that's what separates a great horror film from the trash: the ability to transport you to a place where
anything can happen so realistically that you cannot help but feel that you're actually there yourself in the moment.
And a horror film which can achieve this in spite of being based around supernatural and fantastical elements
is all the more impressive.
Interesting points. I agree.
Things happen when you're filming that you can't ignore. I directed a short called "Butterfly Girl". In one take of a shot of the main character, the Butterfly Girl, a butterfly randomly flew across the screen. You can't ignore that kind of serendipity when shooting. Naturally that take made it into the final cut.
I watched this with a few people. Most of them said they'd never watch it again. Uncomfortably long camera shots, etc.
It unraveled viewers and for that I consider it a masterpiece to this day.
just came across your channel, and videos. you're doing a great job, dude, and i appreciate all of the effort you are putting into your projects. thank you.
These Kubrick videos are some of the finest videos on film on all of TH-cam. Fucking excellent work my man
Very inspiring were the last four minutes or so of the video. Many great bits of information throughout that are great for working, especially within this genre. One of my favorite shot films ever as well. Kubrick was a delight and I think for as simple as he thought the premise was of this film in its eventual simplicity of the final script, I think it ended up being unintentionally, perhaps, maybe his best film.
I often rewrite stories I've read in my mind to make them better. Some day I need to write them down and actually film them. One story is "The Thing" from Scary Stories to tell in the Dark.
@ the 8:01 mark, if you look up next to the spectral twins there is a poster on the wall that says Monarch. I assume it's a movie poster, I'm not certain though, but it rings a bell in my mind. Something I recall reading once about "monarch mind control". It is a golden opportunity for MK Ultra enthusiasts to explore more deeply. Especially knowing that such a poster would not be placed haphazardly in a Stanley Kubrick film during that specific scene.
11:14 - Well hello there!
1:19 This is where the term "wallbanger" comes from (not Kubrick specifically but the action itself)
This was a a very interesting and highly informative video about the art of film making. Thank you for pursuing this subject.
"All work and no play makes Homer something-something!"
Go crazy?
Urge to kill rising...
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Your videos are quite simply FANTASTIC! All of them..... They are engrossing and beautifully edited...... Thank you 🙏🙏🙏👍
Thank you. I can see now the problems to be addressed in adapting a novel to the screen and the place a good director can have in respecting and inspiring actors. I read an account about the making of "On the Waterfront" where the original scene where Charlie picks up Terry in a taxi to tell him that the gang will kill Terry if he testifies. The earlier draft had Terry nearly begging for his life. With the actors rehearsing they changed the approach. Chalie draws a gun on his brother but Terry pushes it away because his brother will not kill him and he knows it. Then Charlie sits back and they recount Terry's brief career as a boxer. This leads up to the "i could have been a contender" beat where Terry realizes his brother has used him to "put him in solid" with Johnny Friendly and his gang.
A point made by King that I agree with is that Jack should have been a normal guy, who progressively descends into madness as opposed to what we got which was a guy who was already strange, creepy and generally a bit off, who just becomes even more weird then eventually murderous.
this is excellent. thanks
Are you doing another short video about eyes wide shut because that was an absolute masterpiece.
Little Danny Torrance and Dick Hallorann where communicating back and fourth with the shinning on a frequency that drove Jack nuts.
That scene with Jack and the caretaker in that surreal red bathroom is my absolute favourite. The timing and delivery of the dialogue is like nothing else I’ve seen... outside of a Kubrick movie, that is.
6:21 Kubrick's Quote
12:00 The main problem with the shining
12:30 wendy
12:50 backstory
4:15 is that ALL they did???
blown my mind after i knew these facts, this skillfully structured movie...my idea is you have to think but you have to be entertained in the same time. no matter what genre is he keeps presenting us godly imageries that sucked into our mind so deep we forget this only a movie.
It took me yeas to find that Kubrick was an American director that just lived in another country because he didn't like working in Hollywood. Every time I hear him speak I always think in my head, "Oh yeah.."
Good little break down.....Just an amazing film..I like the uneasy atmosphere it brings..It just grows on you
Great video as always!
I loved the shinning can’t wait for doctor sleep
I watched the movie first and have since read the book as well and I love both. Both a very good in different ways and I feel like they each give the viewer/reader a different experience. For me the book was the better experience but I can definitely understand why a lot of people prefer the movie. I think the movie just feels a bit too cold for me whereas in the book there are some more emotional scenes and I felt more attached to the characters in general. I also prefer the ending of the book by far. So yeah, two fantastic works in their own ways. Glad to have experienced both and loved them both.
I love how Kubrick drew a skull on Jacks copy of the screenplay & made it look just like Jacks face 😂 @12:25
"He was big on lists" suddenly every youtuber falls in love
I’m glad this channel exists thank you good sir
I love the fact that you put the annotations to your quotes in the subtitles. Wonderful idea!
King just can’t stand that another creator took his idea and made it… better! A masterpiece in fact. The book is one of my favorites, but it isn’t even in the same discussion as the movie. I’m sure that want easy for king to swallow. Then or now. The Shinning will always be the definitive work from Kings mind. And he isn’t even the one who immortalized it.
What an intriguing combination of detailed control and flexibility SK had.
I love your analysis of movies as they are so simple. Most other channels seem to use a vocabulary that is unnecessarily academic. Almost to the point where it seems they use a thesaurus for every second word. I'm not saying those videos are bad, I just much prefer your direct and simple approach! Keep up the good work!
Thanks! I try to keep it conversational, so that I can better communicate with people. After all, I'm no expert-- I'm just organizing information. 😉
man, you make me want to follow my passion in film making, keep it up
Movies are a visual experience and books themselves become more emotional and subconscious. Kubrick took the egos of the characters and created an all encompassing and foreboding setting that becomes a character in itself
yee boi 20 min ty ty on my guy my man stan
Mate just wanted to say this is a wonderful video.