Hey, DT! Linux Isn't Difficult...It's The Users That Are Difficult!
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- On this edition of "Hey, DT!"
0:00 Intro
0:19 How would one turn their Arco Linux install into a stable version of Garuda Dragonized?
2:43 Linux isn't difficult. People make it that way because they don't know how to share their knowledge...
5:17 Are you installing this in VBox? If so, were you able to activate shared clipboard at all?
6:15 Why don't you try installing MacOS on a non-mac computer using hackintosh?
7:53 When is it appropriate to enable the 'login automatically' option?
10:03 Do it with Debian very please! I was wondering if you could add your openbox session to DTOS.
11:57 How do you cope with baldness?
12:03 As a TH-camr, you should get a quieter keyboard.
13:10 Which distro and wm you use and why? Also, do you care about desktop minimalism?
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Hey DT, don't change the keyboard! How else are we going to know how strong and complicated the password is ?
You never really learn to cope with baldness. It always has the upper hand and never yields.
"Nobody knows what the hell you want." --Derek Taylor
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Agree! I have been on Linux now for a couple of years, and finding information is actually easier than it was on Windows! The wikis for Arch and Debian is outstanding.
Hey DT - just wanted to say thanks for everything you do - yourself and Chris Titus have taught me everything I've needed to help me thrive in my move from Windows to Linux. Your command line and bash videos have been absolutely invaluable, and have opened the door to things I never dreamt I could do on a computer. Before I started watching you, I had never used a terminal, now I spend about 70% of my time in one. I'm now embarking on a custom laptop build starting from my old 2010 Thinkpad netbook, and I'm always referencing your videos when I am tweaking the system. I'd love to donate to you via Paypal, but the link in your profile seems to be broken? Unfortunately, I can't commit to a regular Patreon donation, but this month I have some spare cash and would like to give it to you as a thank you for being my teacher and guide. Best wishes from Australia.
I expect DT has some (working) links on his channel about page where you might be more likely to get hold of him to resolve that.
Anyway, welcome and congrats on not only making the move but getting stuck in with the terminal lifestyle and repurposing old hardware. All the best on your journey, mate!
Holy shit the first guy is smoking some of that good stuff lmao
I dont mind clicky switches in your keyboard
I love your answer to the comment ‘Linux is difficult because..’ - you said it so accurately.
Retranslating: The problem with linux is that it treats its users as adults, as thinking beings from the first moment. I used windows for 15 years, and I have more than 20 years on linux; and I know that windows creates invalid users. Although not all of them conform and look for their answers in windows, they are not the majority. When you enter the linux world, you are responsible for your system, whether you have the knowledge or not, if you want something look it up and research it... that is the linux culture. I have also noticed that in the linux world not all communities are the same, I mean statistically, they go from the softest to the hardest and strictest (obviously the latter has its reason to be that way). Excelent video. Once in a while, a short video about the linux philosophy is needed, especially for new users.
I use auto login on my personal computer because I LUKS encrypt my entire drive. It makes it easier to boot and saves time while still being 1,000,000% more secure.
As long as it’s at home I think it’s sane
I been with Linux for over 15yrs and still valid your help and youtube contributures for linux and thank you very much.
your keys are not an issue at all,i find this nitpicking inane,your videos always come across as straightforward,informative,also you,ve got the sound as well as the composition of your videos spot on.take care and thanks for the time you put into these projects.
Gnome loads things into ram so that they load faster. It doesn't actually need all of that memory. As soon as you start running a program that wants to use it, gnome will make that memory available. It isn't bloat. It just makes the system run faster because ram is still faster than ssds.
unfortunately, that's what I see getting promoted by Linux users on TH-cam, that RAM usage should be as low as possible, doesn't matter if I've 2GB or 64GB (@_@)
Yeah, I wish someone would do a in depth check on explanation on that. I think a bit of it is bloat, but it's also like you said, having things pre cached so some things are faster. And when you start those other programs, the difference between a minimalistic WM/DE and Gnome shrinks. I just wish someone would demistify that, and we can see the values by ourselves.
Still, for the vast majority of normal users, 800-1200 MB of RAM at startup is still plenty fine. It's a bit much, I'd say, only on 4GB or lower systems.
I use auto login in my computer because it has full disk encryption. It needs decryption password first to boot. So I think autologin makes sense.
same
I also do this. Feels like my data is more physically protected from anyone with access to my disks, while not requiring any extra human input to grant the same access. It also streamlines the login experience for me too. Since the OS can load what it needs, then grant access, without a password handled by the OS acting as a barrier of sorts between those two tasks.
Hey, cool video, thanks!
I think a valid use case for "autologin" is when having full disk encryption. So if you need to enter you passowrd in GRUB anyway, why bother to do it again on login screen.
Or am I missing something from the security perspective here?
Good Honest replies. And yes I like the keyboard sounding off👍
I love the keyboard, and get far more comments about loving my keyboard in videos than I do people wanting it to be calmed down.
Distro hopping is a young man's game. When you been on Linux for some time You don't have the need distro help anymore.. you thought over them and a comfortability of the distro that you choose.
And you know the ins-and-outs of everything about it
I don't understand why complaining keyboard being loud? The clicky sound of it makes it satisfying and addictive to type on. I hope to get buy one of these keyboards
Personally I like the loud key switches but it won't bother me if you get quieter ones.
I don't think it's hard to find info on your linux related issues. I just copy the error message I get and paste it into the browser and so far I've never been able to not find someone else having the same issue with the same error message and 99.9% of the time there is also a solution
If you can't find any solution, just ask the Linux community, they are very helpfull.
Q#2: I use Linux Mint (ok, I chose that one when i switched from Win7, and I haven't found anything better yet. Suggestions are welcome.) and I've found the Linux Mint Forums a great place to find helpful, reliable information to fix any problems I encounter with LM.
I chose mint because it’s such a breeze to set it up. I got one box running Manjaro Kde. It’s ok but I still prefer Cinamon on Mint.
I would recommend staying on it, if it works and isn't broke don't fix it, you found a distro you like.
I don't mind the keyboard personally, didn't even notice it before this
Hey DT - would Autologin still be a security concern with full disk encryption? Currently i dont have it set up, but to start up my Laptop i have first to enter the boot password (from the Bios), then the decryption passphrase for my luks key - asked by grub. At the end i have to enter my user password. I sometimes feel thats a little bit too much password asking.
Would an Autologin in this scenario be a security concern?
Keep the key switches definitely ⌨️🙌
4:00 In the Linux community you often ask a question and then people ask you, "why would you want to do this" and if you tell them they will probably tell you that you shouldn't want to do it in the first place. When it comes to Windows, at least everyone knows that what they're doing is a hack that isn't officially supported anyway so people aren't as dogmatic and just do whatever the OS lets them do. And that's almost as much possible customization as on Linux if you know how, it's just not officially documented.
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Great stuff as always, DT. At risk of sounding elitist, your insights are impressively nuanced for someone not from a tech background. Goes to show just how far self-teaching can get a guy.
Re: the Hackintosh question, while I can't claim to know all the ins and outs of either the legal or tech implications, I have seen others on the site manage to get macOS (or one of its predecessors) running on hardware that would upset Apple, yet seemingly without upsetting YT TOS.
It is however reasonable you'd be apprehensive about publishing that kinda thing, even if you were capable and willing to give it a whack privately.
Also, there really seems to be a paradigm shift at play in the US (the EU as well, but they're always regulating things...) with right to repair being a recent prime example, and I believe jailbreaking was ruled to be within consumer rights by an upper court a few years ago.
Definitely ranting at this point, but if gov't can't seem to prevent tech giants from monopolizing, at least we have a chance at using bought and owned software and hardware as we see fit within reason and without threat of legal action.
tl;dr: Apple and friends can have their walled gardens, but what we do outside them is none of their business.
I think the sound of the keys on a keyboard is rather aesthetic.
You should get louder key switches, over getting quieter ones, IMO, though the ones you have right now are fine.
Love you DT
Wondering how your're configuring the ZSA Moonlander to be super efficient with DTOS, Xmonad, Doom Emacs etc. It must be a lifelong configuration with no end in sight.
Hey DT, the moment you said "Deep Diving" is the moment you are acknowledging his point, if information is not difficult to find and there isn't hoard then you wouldn't need to make a deep dive. And just because is the same in Windows/Mac doesn't justify it is on Linux.
Don’t use quieter key switches! Make them louder.
Hey DT, you brought an issue to mind. Have an old MacBook G4 its a beautiful laptop but the OS no longer works and I've held on to it hoping to come up with a haredware solution that would allow me to install linux. As for Auto Login on my laptop, since it doesn't leave my house & there is no one to mess with it, I love auto login 🤣 Unless there is an internal access security risk I'm using it on antiX right now. My new favorite OS🤣 As for customization of OS, do a video on how app dependencies work w/ OS . Great topics, Keyboard noise 0 ! Hey DT you said & I can tell you're not bald. thank you.
I live alone. i dont see how auto login would be a problem. nobodys gonna come up to my desktop and use it.
If it works, it works
Delrick, would BSD is family is a second alternative to Linux ( FreeBSD,OpenBSD,etc) would be fine??
I dont even think its the users or linux thats difficult. I think its unlearning how windows works on PC's thats actually difficult. If you spend your time in an environment wisely and keep yourself there, you get used to how things work pretty fast and really well. A lot of people are so integrated with how windows works that its hard for them to think of how else a computer CAN work and how windows chooses to implement such features.
EDIT TO ADD: I'm glad to have an unexpected question I had answered. I have a linux system thats automatic login and the only things saved are my steam games and information. No social media, card or bank information, personal information are stored on it and I'm never on the internet on it unless I update games.
I would argue that it's actually that hard to find relevant info for deep diving into Windows or MacOS or even ChromeOS, because of the in house support structure, which means online guides from the companies, sponsored courses, online tutorials from the company and even a simple Google search.
On Linux, it's not that simple for most things, often time for small issues, you'll be searching and searching and reading through a bunch of forums to find your solution and often, different people gives different solutions and it's often a trial and error shitshow at times.
You should probably cover RedHat RHEL saga, it's getting ever more dramatic and hilarious as time go, by the reactions of the community and other distros (commercial or free).
...But at the start of the day computers are for enjoyment!
Also don't change your key switches for sound sake if it does not bother you. Only change them for pressure or tactile sake.
I like keys that make noise...my personal keyboard has switches that can be heard. Keep your keyboard and your switches.
For the first question, I think DT has it the wrong way round: keep the Arco Linux kernel and video drivers, but install the desktop, apps and icons/themes which Garuda has.
Hell no don't get a quieter keyboard! I love clicky keyboards like the old NMB ones. They give you a slight amount of weight and followed by some really nice break over and relief. Someone asking you to change your keyboard is something like somebody asking me to get rid of my custom trigger on my 28 Nosler bolt rifle. I paid a lot of money to make it just my way and if somebody would like to shoot that rifle, they deal with the trigger that I like. It's a personal preference.
Hey DT. I'm being teased by my friends for deciding to start the transition to switch to Linux full-time. I explained to them about all the privacy issues with Windows and other propriety software, only to get replied with "You're being too paranoid, let them take our data, as long as the software works and is convenient, who cares?!" How would you personally reply to that notion?
Eric Murphy here on TH-cam did a VERY GOOD video on that just several days ago. It has recent, real world examples of what happens when you don't have privacy. I cannot recommend it enough.
My vanilla arch has black arch and nemisis repos. And since i stay 2 kernels behind the rolling... I never had an issue with zfs dkms or arch in general.... It just bleeds....
Is auto login safe to do with full disk encryption?
If you are the only person using the machine, yes. With an unencrypted drive it could make a huge difference because if a firmware password is set and the attacker can't boot from USB he'd have to waste time removing the harddrive from the machine rather than just turning it on. Unless the pre-login state is exploitale anyway. I know you can just encrypt your home drive too but as a rule of thumb, don't rely on user accounts to protect your data, they'll help you more in protecting permissions.
New Solus is now out. and back
i'm used to qtile but can't make it installed on Debian 12
so i'm using dwm for now
garuda publishes their tools in their gitlab, you can spend some time reading that.
i like your keyboard ..
The last point is well said. Yes, Function over beauty. Linux may not be always beautful, as if users want those, there are other less Freedom respecting O/S out there. Peace :-)
"No one's going to take everything you want to know and put it into this neat little package." Hmm... challenge accepted! (starts typing a novel-length Reddit post. lol)
I agree with you about Mac. The only reason I can see for using it is regarding audio production, like for recording your rock band and mastering the tracks. Unfortunately most software in this field is for Mac...ugh! Software compatibility is this field is pretty atrocious sadly. Don't even get me started on the audio plugins called VSTs. I'm trying to use Ardour for my garage band. We'll see how well I can get this all to work. Reaper is the only other realistic choice for Linux musicians.
The smart money would have his /home drive on a separate drive, and then you can install a new OS (or have multiple OSes!) without the danger of bricking your system.
I am using garuda last 2 years no t any big problem on me everything works fine no dual boot
My Ram on Gnome is using ~850 mb on a cold boot. Average Load is super low
:D Touche'
I'm ok with clickie keyboard until I can hear speech of the guy typing. So don't keep it in mind. For me I'd rather like you use Debian instead of Arch (cause I like it more 🙃) and... to be serious I'd like you do some courses about Linux for experienced Windows users who wants customized experience. All this Linux user experience stuff is pretty much understandable but it's sooo hard to choose something for the first time just because there is sooo much options... And nobody explains what user experience I get if I choose KDE Plasma over Cinnamon for example, X11 over Wayland, I3wm over Awesome wm, etc...
DT doesn't have Windows experience (at least not recent one) so how could he make a course for experienced Windows users, if he doesn't know what they know and like ?
For that, Chris Titus Tech would be BY FAR the best candidate. He is actually very knowledgeable about Windows, even written software for it, including a debloating tool. And he knows Linux too, on a decently advanced level.
Hey DT, does "bloat" actually matter?
13:10 Not at all. I got used to hearing the keyboard. Specially when you type the "strong and complicated password for the DT user".
7:19 SomeOrdinaryGamers made a video like that back in 2021. I prefer making my own OS using Fedora server and starting from there
Hey DT.What it is opinion about Alpine.Can you compare the Alpine with Arch ? I'm Freebsd user but I'm interested about Alpine Linux
The keyboard is fine.
Hey DT, why use Arco? Why not vanilla Arch? We know you're more than capable of setting up Arch... Is it because you're used to Arco?
Considering you don't use the Arco configs, why not migrate to Arch with your configs? It's cleaner and more minimal...
PS: I used Arco for quite some time (thanks to you ;) ) and eventually switched to Arch. I'm a happy NixOS user now.
I use automatic login, however :
1 - I have a single use system
2 - I use disk encryption, which means a password is necessary to turn my computer on
3 - I never leave my computer without locking it, and while using a lock screen isn't as secure as not being logged in, that's also true for someone that needs a password to login to their computer
4 - I don't see any benefit to logging out of the system, I just shut down my computer
I have a very clicky keyboard as well. Hearing one does not bother me at all. The feel of the keyboard is more than worth the sound it makes.
The baldness comment made me laugh. Can this person not look and see that you in fact have hair and just choose to shave your head? I also choose to shave my head. It is very comfortable and I can't see going back to having hair. Some people just don't get it.
It's a running meme, I'm sure that the commenter just did it for the laughs.
@@Winnetou17 I don't track the memes. Couldn't care less.
Sometimes I turn on the auto login if you're using disk encryption, because encryption gives you way more security than just something like just running lightdm
Well it not easy. Reason a lot hardware is different and config them is not easy. First time I easy cause wrong settings. There no guide which programs as well I got lost why network not working. Until I read that you need to manual install network stuff packages. Just some time guide and video something help. Still user does have chose to build that why it fun and messed. It learning.
For Q2:
Linux users share a lot compared to windows'.
Simply put, windows is closed source, try tinkering with windows undocumented APIs and you'll understand.
You'll have to reverse engineer your way to the answer.
Hey DT, How'd you get hard muscles?
Killer title,,, 🤣
15:48: “Gnome boots with more than 1GB of RAM on a cold boot, and that’s a lot of wasted RAM”
I’d argue that this is a fallacy now that computers standard RAM size is 16GB. And it’s contradictory to DT’s own argument that He wants people change to Linux. Gnome standard ram size is fine considering that it softens the impact on users when they change to Linux. Stop complaining about this one.
It's not the users that are difficult, it's the elitists that say you need to do things a certain way; _their way_ and nothing else. There are whole communities founded upon this idea that you _must_ do things their way, even though they appear to be as general LUGs. One of the most popular guilds in Discord as-of-writing suffers from this mismatch of expectation and impression.
There is a time and place for that sort of nonsense. If we're talking about Kali, Parrot or any other pen-testing distro, _serious drivers only._ But for most of the general distros that are popular because they're dead-simple to install, _nah_ don't do that.
How to make a BigMac tastes like a Fillet'o'fish ?
How to make a BigMac with cheesecake?
How to make a BigMac look like a Snickers bar?
This is what people want Linux to do....
Linux popuplarity growing up is not a great thing....
I have several machines that auto-login. Most of them auto-login and immediately lock the screen. This allows end-user applications that start on login to fire up, which makes the logical-login faster. The screen unlocks and everything is good to go. Obviously, this is only useful on single-user systems.
On my dual-seat system, both seats have to fire up on system boot, since getting PAM to hand out the second seat is non-trivial, so once again, startup, login, lock screen.
These machines are all at least semi-publically available, and possibly portable, so requiring a password is important. Likewise, they are configured to lock the screen after sitting idle for a time, in case I forget to lock the screen when leaving.
For machines which are _not_ kiosks, which are in secured locations, but where the machine itself is not secured, autologin is not harmful. If a bad actor getting to the machine has already overcome significant physical security, they are more likely to just extract your hard drive (or the whole machine) than to take the time to rip just your browser-stored passwords (which should be using unix Pass anyway).
Switches are OK
Hey DT, have you heard of distrobox tool, this helps to get containerised aur packages working on debian or fedora, without the use of any virtualbox, boxes, etc. If not, do take a look, and cover it in a video. I personally think this will completely stop unnecessary distrohops form many people.
Looking slippery today. Must be warmish in Texas.
What do we mean when we say "Garuda doesn't work with modern hardware?" I'm on a 5700X and 6750xt, and it runs beautifully. Is my equipment not "modern" enough?
I think you got that backwards it's geruda that works with the newer stuff
@@vlaricshard2 Yeah, that's what I was saying. First comment he reads in the video, person says that Garuda doesn't work with newer hardware. I'm like...Garuda works great with new hardware. Arch kind of hates me, but that's a different story. 😂😂😂😪
(either Arch hates me, or it's possible that Garuda may be geared more for Nvidia, but I have the same problem on other Arch based distros, where after reboot, sometimes, games just run like slideshows for some reason. Then I may leave it off for a while, reboot it a few times...there's an almost endless combination of things that will make it magically start working properly again, and I'm so new i don't even know where to start trying to troubleshoot that. I'm not even sure how to alliterate a query on it.)
To be frank, for today 5700X and 6750 XT are both last generation, so, no, it is not "modern" enough. Because I assume that question, the modern hardware, is about drivers. Which can lag behind hardware launches by several months. Which can turn to a year or even more on some distros. Your CPU and GPU are both 2 year old if I'm not mistaken, even Debian has support for them.
@@Winnetou17 To be frank, the last 3 generations are considered "modern" hardware. If they mean the latest generation of hardware, they should probably say that.
@@PhatDildokhunty True, you're absolutely correct!
Dev ops its for the users that start to build their own custom software, software, that "lives" in their heads, 1 more of the strengths of Linux (GNU).
yea garuda was where i settled almost a year ago, spent 3 weeks distro hopping as a total noob lol ty ty ty valve for the steam deck ida probably nvr tryd linux on my desktop ever again, and trying linux gave me a whole new type of content to watch like distrotube
Good day DT, i having a problem in burning linux OS in USB strick im confuse . tel me how to confiure balena etcher or rufus which is better. how to cnfigure them?, And also i have a prblem in my GPU because my NVIDIA is GT630 why thus some latest linux distro unable to boot?.. is it my GPU 630? :(.?
I'm all about the clicky keyboard.
I did the auto-login on my late father-in-law's computer once...and then he needed sudo access for something or other...and then neither he nor I could remember his password. LOL
time to change init to bash
unused ram is wasted ram. no professional or hobbyist who is into video editing would buy a machine with 8gigs of ram. it'd say with todays standarts 32gb would be the minimum for that kind of use. with that said, it wouldn't make such a difference if the os uses 650mb or 1.5gb of ram on cold boot
Wolfgang's Channel, a Russian-German former Linux TH-camr, went full Macintosh, by the way.
Yeah because the hardware is great. That’s the one thing Linux and or “open source” is not ever going to do realistically. Invent hardware.
The best hardware on earth is all proprietary, and so is every single piece of hardware DT and every other Linux user has as well ironically.
MacOS is Bsd at its core, and it’s terminal is essentially Unix. East transition from Linux or to Linux from MacOS as it’s fairly similar under the hood.
Oh, for most (all, probably) Linux distros all the help is available if you search like "Linux how to ". The answer is there, not necessarily right away, but with a waste of maybe 10-15 minutes of your life you'll find it. With Windows, _maybe_ as well. I don't remember the details after all these years.
Linux ain’t hard it just needs a bit of interest
We love click-clack keyboards, get noiser key seitches.
Linux is actually easy after quiet practice if you plan on making it easier i suggest friendly user version of Linux and put it on market it has to go viral
HEY DT, why don't you set up your computer for you to use and not to feed every whim in the internet
Don't get quieter sswitches.
How out of touch am I if I don't notice or care about an extra GB or two being used by the DE/WM. If this was 2010 or you have old hardware I can understand, otherwise I spent less than $100 on 32 GB of 3200MHz ram. Even doing some video editing or playing games, I'm not coming close to using all that. Although I'll admit, I dual boot windows 11, because I need access to certain games and what not. So maybe I'm jaded by the amount of bloatware that comes with Windows. The fact I can check email and watch a video (KDE) and I'm using less than half of what it would take to do the same in windows is crazy to me so when I hear "bloat" in linux desktops I always laugh to myself.
Don’t replace your keyboards. They are fine. Computer nerds like the sound of keystrokes.
Yeah then keys annoy the hell outta me get a typewriter instead.
These problems do not exist in Linux Mint ! and Users
the more you watch linux porn, the more difficult your life will be
It's difficult to share knowledge in Linux because it's too fragmented with too many pointless options. Windows and Mac OS are the same for everyone.