Sigma 85mm F1.4 DG DN Art Review

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  • The Sigma 85mm F1.4 Art lens is fast, compact and affordable - and it delivers great image quality. Watch our review to learn more! Full resolution sample images from this episode: www.dpreview.c...
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  • @narutoshippuden473
    @narutoshippuden473 4 ปีที่แล้ว +211

    Ancient Egyptian viewers are proud of you, Chris.

  • @EinzMY
    @EinzMY 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Thank you Dpreview for bringing us to the beautiful lake and not hiding the view with toneh.

  • @obsidian00
    @obsidian00 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    “For our ancient Egyptian viewers...”
    You two are the best at what you do...I don’t shoot SONY nor mirrorless but yet here I am...

  • @friendsstudiochailchowk2247
    @friendsstudiochailchowk2247 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Chris & jordan the best TH-cam reviewer I have came across..

  • @jackhamm7745
    @jackhamm7745 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I could write a love letter to this lens. Anyone still considering this lens, I've owned it for two years. I have many lenses, Sony and Sigma, and this one is just perfect. Buy it!

  • @soldokane8509
    @soldokane8509 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Noct
    noun [C]
    Unit of measure for the mass of a lens based on an engineering aberration.

  • @Bluefax
    @Bluefax 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    "For our ______ viewers..."
    This should become a regular.

  • @cameraconspiracies
    @cameraconspiracies 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    That's where I want to live too :)

  • @RhawiDantas
    @RhawiDantas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    "fairly husky adult male"
    hahaha
    *cuts to jordan*
    awww...

  • @momchilyordanov8190
    @momchilyordanov8190 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    5 years ago they promised us mirrorless cameras will result in smaller lenses. It took some time, but here it is! Look at the Samyang primes for Sony. Or the Tamron zooms. Or this one.

    • @coolcat23
      @coolcat23 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did they promise "computational photography" as well? Because that's what is being sold here. Without image correction, this lens shows heavy pincushion distortion and heavy vignetting. No free lunch, even if the mirror is omitted.

    • @nikoolix
      @nikoolix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@coolcat23 Most DSLR lenses also have distortion to what's your point?

    • @fredriksvard2603
      @fredriksvard2603 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pana 1.8 primes

    • @fredriksvard2603
      @fredriksvard2603 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@coolcat23 who cares

  • @Jimmy87268
    @Jimmy87268 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love the measurement conversions!

  • @mohammadmehdizoghifard1131
    @mohammadmehdizoghifard1131 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The best camera-lens review channel on youtube. you guys are keeping the quality high. You answer all the things I have in my head in your reviews. keep up the good work!

  • @movakalin5333
    @movakalin5333 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Canada is so far up north, I always have the impression they are comparable to Siberia. Very cold and not much sun. But seeing Chris in a TShirt and shorts, there is hope.

    • @webdaddy
      @webdaddy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The land of moose and maple trees.
      Seriously, a beautiful country.

    • @alex0589
      @alex0589 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s been 95f degrees since may here in Montreal. Download google earth, bruh.

  • @Revan89
    @Revan89 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Love you guys, but this feels like an understatement:
    "is not that much more expensive [than the Sony 85 1.8]" = Literally is double the price.
    Would have loved at least a mention of the Samyang/Rokinon 85 1.4 that cost half the price too. Is the Sigma $600 better?

    • @TTWGD3
      @TTWGD3 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes

  • @80-80.
    @80-80. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Was this episode shoot on the A7SIII?
    It looks like it is.

  • @joesciacca
    @joesciacca 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dear Chris, over all these years I have been enjoying your wonderful camera and lens reviews. Shout outto the video guy who notoriously does a great job in the background as well. You have a serious fan overseas. Best from Zurich, Joe Sciacca

  • @aliendilemma
    @aliendilemma 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks so much, just bought this lens and this video did not make me regret it!

  • @smithcon
    @smithcon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Chris: great lens! Jordan: great lens! Bee: did that guy just cuss me out for *landing on a flower*?!! Seriously, great review as always; was interesting to see the video(Jordan) / photo (Chris) split on the recommendations for the L-Mount version, but it makes sense.

  • @RickMentore
    @RickMentore 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The back-lit images were outstanding, especially the one @8:38! Another fantastic review JCReview, thanks.

  • @randygerber2885
    @randygerber2885 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Welcome to Kelowna.
    I always enjoys your content

  • @FabledFew
    @FabledFew 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ahhh, thank you. The Noct Scale is back. Need to know how many Nocts I can carry in my bag.

  • @BartzConcept
    @BartzConcept 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Definitely thinking of upgrading my Fe 85 1.8 Sony and getting this once the price is low enough / there's a good deal! Those 11 aperture blades!!! Beautiful. Sigma's DN lenses are such an asset for the E mount system right now and I hope this trend of smaller Art series primes will continue with maybe a new 50mm or 18mm!

  • @JamesJohnsonthe4th
    @JamesJohnsonthe4th 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As an American I struggle with the metric system so I always appreciate the conversions. I really hope Sigma makes a new 50mm f/1.4 that is smaller than the old version.

    • @doublevgreen
      @doublevgreen ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well they still havent made one

    • @sskribbla
      @sskribbla ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This aged well

  • @nicolask.3825
    @nicolask.3825 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:04 BIG fan of this sample photo timing.

  • @Nayson
    @Nayson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    8:50 made me laugh more than I care to admit.

  • @intheblues
    @intheblues 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    The conversions 🤣

  • @KenOttaviano
    @KenOttaviano 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The units of measurement are hilarious!

  • @powerlurker
    @powerlurker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    hope sigma redo their art series with this smaller style

  • @chrisrarc
    @chrisrarc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    "oh you're gonna land - oh you ****" nice inside look at Chris' psyche

  • @ak4939
    @ak4939 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review. Thank you. I ordered the 85/1.8, until I came across this lens........cancelled the 85/1.8 order, and now the Sigma is on the way. The Sigma retails for 1050 on Amazon, currently, and for this price, it is a no-brainer for the size, quality and the wide aperture.

    • @ak4939
      @ak4939 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is a great lens. However, once the hood is on, don't expect the lens to look small in any way.......with the hood on, it is just a little bit smaller than say the 135mm f/1.8 GM, which is a big prime by any measure. Without the hood, and compared to its f/1.4 peers, the 85mm f/1.4 DG DN is certainly much smaller........but I personally always shoot with the hood on.

  • @djrbfmbfm-woa
    @djrbfmbfm-woa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    looks beautiful there. hope you guys get to live there. btw, congrats on 250k+ subs. j.

    • @djrbfmbfm-woa
      @djrbfmbfm-woa 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      thx, been watching you guys for years now. best on YT, no doubt. j.

  • @waltertomashefsky2682
    @waltertomashefsky2682 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    They make wine in Canada!? Who knew. Must all be Chardonn, eh?

    • @alex0589
      @alex0589 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Walter Tomashefsky can you slap a comment?

    • @niccollsvideo
      @niccollsvideo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      How dare you...make me laugh out loud.

    • @dillank3240
      @dillank3240 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They make all sorts of good wine in Canada. I like the Riesling from the Okanagan, where this was shot.

    • @niccollsvideo
      @niccollsvideo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dillank3240 Quails gate. I picked up their dry Riesling

  • @villemononen5303
    @villemononen5303 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sigma finally starting to make smaller lenses, watch out! Stunning lens, just absolutely stunning! I enjoyed all of the pictures and that says a lot. Also, THIS back-lit portrait @ 8:35, wow... Talk about stunning all the way through this review...

  • @RaquelFoster
    @RaquelFoster 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm all about sarcasm and nerdy details. Although I do have some corrections:
    1:51 1 stone = 14 lbs... so 625g = 1/3.2 Noct = 1.38 lbs. = 0.0984 stone
    3:21 1 cubit = 18 in... so 0.85 m = 1.86 cubits

  • @SpencerLupul
    @SpencerLupul 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yes!! My hometown 😍

  • @martysender5539
    @martysender5539 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Enjoyed the "look" at that beautiful lake and countryside. The more you guys show of O Canada, the more I want to come visit, maybe stay. Meantime, those of you who do not have a thousand bucks for an 85mm f1.4, do what I did, cheap out, and buy a Rokinon 85 1.4 for $267 dollars US. ah Jordan, let me guess. you shot this one on the S1H. man the video is pretty.

    • @T0ly113
      @T0ly113 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly, did the same. Got it for sub 200$, and it's ridiculous value for that price.

  • @tomarse84
    @tomarse84 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Not sure if it's really optically better than its predecessor which I happen to own. Distortion and vignetting are pretty strong in this new version, and even though easily correctable in post, it comes with IQ degradation. Using a Canon EOS R5, I have no option to use this lens anyway, but even if I did, I am not sure whether I'd make the switch. Yes, I'd love to have 85/1.4 as compact as the new DG DN, but strong vignetting and distortion make it a little less attractive. There's no such thing as a free lunch, I guess.

  • @junxia8119
    @junxia8119 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sigma led the way in building oversized lenses back then and set every player in the market (even Sony) to follow them, which has made us even doubt our idea that mirrorless systems should be compact. As a result, we have huge RF prime and fixed f2 lenses, bulky S1 series, and even a new weight unit , Noct 58. But guess what, they change their direction with several recent products, which is pretty surprising. Hope they would bring us more excitements like this in the future.

    • @felipecastro8668
      @felipecastro8668 ปีที่แล้ว

      But in fact, Sigma revolutionized the world of objective lenses. so much so that, even after years, the Canon RF 85mm f/1.2 couldn't beat the Sigma 85mm f/1.4 which costs less than half the price and delivers the same quality.

  • @skipper4114
    @skipper4114 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Quails gate so nice there. Cheers from the NWT.

  • @leonardodosvinci4130
    @leonardodosvinci4130 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The pedestrian at 4:05 clearly got the 'keep on walking buddy!' look from Jordan. :)

  • @cedric3379
    @cedric3379 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sigma single handily pulled down the cost of using e mount verses ef rf and z mount, really looking forward to the 70200 that's yet to come

  • @Micha_7F
    @Micha_7F 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Guys, I do like you and reviews that much, that I can’t even not wait until end until liking the video 😅

  • @jimbean532
    @jimbean532 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great humor, excellent photos, helpful info, loved the video production. Grand slam boys! Thanks 🙏

  • @chengchengxu
    @chengchengxu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I miss traveling... but I live in the USA. :(
    :D

    • @webdaddy
      @webdaddy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, we are too infested with viruses to travel right now.

  • @timothyhall87
    @timothyhall87 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What was this filmed on? The picture is amazing!

  •  2 ปีที่แล้ว

    One year later still my favorite camera

  • @utzlygutzly8402
    @utzlygutzly8402 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for yet another very entertaining and detailed review.
    The lens looks great, only I see this review just a month after I purchased the Sony 1.8 one...
    I certainly don't regret but if something happens to that lens you convinced me to switch...

  • @Ildskalli
    @Ildskalli 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The flare at 8:25 is excellent - it complements the portrait really well.

  • @photographerjonathan
    @photographerjonathan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It would be cool to see a comparison of this New Sigma 85 f1.4 DN with the new Canon RF 85 f1.2 L , I know both lenses are sharp, so I would like to see
    just a comparison of the contrast and subject separation ( or 3D pop ) wide open. and the quality of the background blur wide open. and also a bokeh ball comparison wide open. the new Canon RF is a lens that I am sure is great, but personally I don't want an 85 lens that weighs 1190g when there is a Sigma 85 that weighs 625g, and I will also take $1.199 over $2.500 any day. so the Canon better have some kind of an edge other than it being f1.2 to justify it's size and weight and price. I know to allot of people the new Canon L f1.2 primes are making them drool and want to go to the Canon system, but for me they are making me want to stay away from the system because of there size and weight. and I'm sure for many people the price.

  • @afonsosantos8364
    @afonsosantos8364 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You were the only reviewer that addressed the weak AF performance of fast moving subjects. I immediately noticed that insufficiency coming from the 85 f1.8

  • @vpr5562
    @vpr5562 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've got me covered with a batis 85 1.8. IS + weather sealing.

  • @chcomes
    @chcomes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    am I the only one seeing lots of distorsion? in the sharpness test part, the sigma text was not looking great... easy to correct?

    • @iransirijillo
      @iransirijillo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Christian Comes pincushion distortion, the elephant in the room that wasn’t addressed.... can’t have it all I guess and this is why the sigma is smaller than the GM

    • @oliverlison
      @oliverlison 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The distortion, I have seen it and the lens is shit. You will piss your money away. This is my opinion.

  • @808islandlife_HI
    @808islandlife_HI 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review as always.

  • @marclattoni1959
    @marclattoni1959 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nicely done as always. Solid content and great presentation.

  • @kantkapii
    @kantkapii 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I own 85 1.4 GM, I'm considering to change to 85 1.4 DG DN. Any thoughts?

  • @chenwang6410
    @chenwang6410 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Perfect combination of size, price and image quality. If only we have a similar option for 35mm...

  • @EvaLi211
    @EvaLi211 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    love your style! i live in this beautiful town, too!

  • @foilpainterfantasyartist1711
    @foilpainterfantasyartist1711 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review and beautiful scenery and I need to visit Canada after this pandemic is over.

  • @aleriga1981cr
    @aleriga1981cr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice Footage Jordan... was that the S1H? Which lenses were you using?

  • @samhodgkinson8901
    @samhodgkinson8901 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "...they just kept that large, huge design..."
    "...very large, very heavy, and quite bulky..."
    Someone is trying to bump the word count up on this review

  • @sbk_nef
    @sbk_nef 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really love the way you guys declared Nikon's Noct lens as a weighing standard in all your lens reviews. Lol.

  • @KingofStreet3
    @KingofStreet3 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm sold on clicking aperture ring

  • @GrimTactics6226
    @GrimTactics6226 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The moment you reattached your lens hood in .3 seconds sadly gave me the realization of how incompetent I am at this haha

  • @james123202
    @james123202 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent .. thanks for another great review

  • @YakAlmighty
    @YakAlmighty 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would love to see a comparison video between this and the ef version adapted using the sigma adapter.

    • @flygonex10
      @flygonex10 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Christopher Frost Photography has a comparison video of these two lenses

  • @qvarfoto
    @qvarfoto 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love to see a comparison between this and the "newer" Lumix S series 85mm f1.8 lens.

  • @TheFilmmakersWorkshop
    @TheFilmmakersWorkshop 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very funny Chris. Nice comparison. How about a vid on adapted glass for L mount users. Best and budget alternatives

  • @iddeegee
    @iddeegee 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    NIce lens, especially the "aperture mute button" :) Now waiting for Fujinon XF 50mm f/1.0 review which also has the cat-eye effect wide open... and some CA

  • @JacobChristiansen1
    @JacobChristiansen1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Classic CA", makes it sound fancy

    • @webdaddy
      @webdaddy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's "fan...sayyyyy....."

  • @photoeducationbydaniel
    @photoeducationbydaniel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have to hugely correct you guys about the L-mount - The Sigma Art 85 1.4 HSM has limitations with AF-C and tracking. It stops refocusing during af-c and burst shoots (At least with Leica) Because they've simply adapted their DSLR version. With this new 85mm 1.4 DN that limitation is removed and one can use AF-C tracking with continuous burst without limitation and the camera continues to focus track a subjects - I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND THE NEW DN AND NOT THE ADAPTED HSM version

  • @DustyCR
    @DustyCR 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    "push button on the hood; oh, I love it, very classy".... sounded like Hammer from Iron Man 2! :D

  • @Gladius7
    @Gladius7 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well I dont know how but I have never come across you guys before, Well I Subed,Liked,Belled,Commented and Loved the review. Well done you got a new Fan. :)

  • @martelljhixson
    @martelljhixson 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What lens are you using for this TH-cam video? The image clarity and color grading is awesome!

  • @MrTacticalinuit
    @MrTacticalinuit 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm so happy with my Samyang 85mm f1.4, makes me want to see comparison with this.

  • @LoLoo-wg3wj
    @LoLoo-wg3wj 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's so good that it has more distortion than an ultrawide angle zoom lens. Distortion is the in thing apparently! $1200 for a prime with terrible distortion, looks I'll be selling my RF lens collection and going all Sigma now. (BTW that is sarcasm)

  • @pasapucha
    @pasapucha 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dear Jordan ! please use polarizing filter

  • @d.k.1394
    @d.k.1394 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great vid......................................

  • @darrylscott-windsor6556
    @darrylscott-windsor6556 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Distortion wasn't addressed in this review, one of the biggest flaws apparently by other reviewers. Everything else is great, but distortion?? How bad is it, really??

  • @phathorn
    @phathorn 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    very nice review, thanks for the great job you guys do ! Any advice about this lens with the Leica SL 601 ?

  • @concretely
    @concretely 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome review!

  • @danieldougan269
    @danieldougan269 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm glad Chris acknowledged the ancient Egyptian viewers.

  • @almostinfamous42
    @almostinfamous42 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's a very entertaining review and a great Kelownascopy for potential tourists too. (sorry)

  • @cmacd8879
    @cmacd8879 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Chris, stay in Calgary... yes Okanagan summers are great, the wine is wonderful, but the (warmer) winters are cloudy, grey, no sun for weeks, you would soon miss the prairie winter sun. You're welcome...!

  • @sumanhazra8731
    @sumanhazra8731 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Woww. Deatailed explained. When it will be available in India ? I have the older Sigma 85mm 1.4 ver. i will exchange with new one..i found old ver is bit heavy

  •  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I need this lens on Nikon Z, it's a shame that they didn't release it. I think I will have to buy adapter but it's not the same thing as having it natively.

  • @w0lfyovi294
    @w0lfyovi294 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Both of you handsome guys are moving to the same place ... isn’t that officially make you brothers for life, where one goes so does the other :)

  • @dfj555
    @dfj555 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sigma 85mm f/1.4 DG DN, Sony FE 85mm F1.4 GM, or Zeiss 85mm f/1.8 Batis for my Sony A7R4, which one would you buy?

    • @donzokor5312
      @donzokor5312 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sigma 85mm 1.4, owned the others and Sigma is the best. Especially if you shoot portraits in a studio. Batis does not focus well in the studio.

  • @kurgo_
    @kurgo_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'll be honest, I'm not digging the bokeh of this lens a lot, wide open, seems far too nervous and pretty bad with double-edged structures. Maybe a comparison with the gm 85 / samyang 85?

  • @jeanleguique4280
    @jeanleguique4280 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    6:35 Thanks, you made my day :)

    • @luisinhocol
      @luisinhocol 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can adjust white balance by pointing the camera to Chris legs at 02:55😁

  • @zollieuncle9647
    @zollieuncle9647 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    All right gents, I did subscribed and hope you can move to that beautiful place in this lifetime. :-)
    BTW, I would have also made a comparision with the new Sigma 65mm F2 lens as the Sony FE 85GM is hopefully soon retired and we will see an optically way superior 85/1.4(1.2?) mark2 soon at a significantly higher price point.

  • @FerdinandTerreros
    @FerdinandTerreros 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So I’m thinking Batis 85mm or Sigma 85 Dg Dn, any recommendations or opinions ?

    • @donzokor5312
      @donzokor5312 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sigma all day long! I owned all the 85mm lenses available for the Sony body and this really is the best for portraits. The G Master was so slow and loud to focus I returned it, they need to make an updated version for the G Master. The ZEISS Batis lens is great for outside work but has a focus issue if you do studio photography. I was shooting a client and had to remove the Batis and put the Sony 85mm 1.8 on, the Batis just would not nail the focus. If you only shoot portraits outside you won't notice the issue. This Sigma 85mm 1.4, Sigma 105mm 1.4, ZEISS 55mm 1.8 Sony 90mm macro are 4 of the best lenses I ever used for portraits.

  • @JF..
    @JF.. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice! Love it 👍

  • @venom5809
    @venom5809 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kelowna, hmm, wonder if you saw the Daily Driven Exotics guys?

  • @JapanLovers
    @JapanLovers 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love the cats eyes bokeh

  • @JourneymanActor
    @JourneymanActor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The IQ on the video was really good. Was this the pro res on s1h or something else?

  • @SpencerLupul
    @SpencerLupul 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are you guys still in Kelowna?

  • @artmaltman
    @artmaltman 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent review thank you. Would you do a comparison to the Samyang 85mm f/1.4? Thanks!

  • @mikkelstormhansen9733
    @mikkelstormhansen9733 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is Toneh?

  • @bogrunberger
    @bogrunberger 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Samyang 85 f/1.4 looks very good too and it's much cheaper.

  • @nexuses1
    @nexuses1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Might need to bring back the triangle sponsorship for the move