Great presentation. 👍 You would have to assume they built that citidel but lost their livestock (wealth) to raiders. Thereafter, building the 2nd wall to protect themselves and their wealth. It was large to protect a common wealth. Castles were smaller because they were owned by the raiders.
Amazing, my mother whos mother settled in eastern Canada is from Scottland, they are the Cairns but I have lost the family tree as it's hard to track the history far back. How would you recommend I investigate. My mother is very tall and lean and high cheekbones. She fierce in passion and stubborn, sound Pictish!!!
Would recommend DNA test with Ancestry and FTDNA (Family Tree DNA). Then join respective projects that align with results. That will give you a good baseline to work from.
Just me or does the image on the stone tablet (Land and the written word) at ~3:19, specifically what looks like handcuffs (Infinity symbol?) with the circle up above it (sun?) seem similar to Egyptian, possibly Scythian imagery?
No, people know about these stones and Ogham. Some of the Pictish stones have been interpreted at a very minor level. Using these small traces of Ogham, Pictish has been interpreted overall as being a form of “P-Celtic”. However there is still not enough left behind to fully interpret and reconstruct what the Pictish language actually was.
Q&A re: tattooing - could livestock *branding* be the key to interpretation as in Caucasus clan markings? Romans branded slaves, so technique known to Iron age cattle-herders perhaps> developed catalog of symbols to identify breeding pedigrees ? Metalwork moulds shown in presentation have distinct troughs and ridges suitable for creating a linear images after heating over a fire?
Yes Mr Anderson, of course, not Welsh but many names/place names are cognate in Welsh,a living language. Certainly swathes of Pictish territory were northern branches of Brittonic tribes, indeed the Manau of Gododdin/Clackmannan being a part, birthplace of Cunedda became Pictish territory
Very interesting... personally I don't think the Dice Tower is for the campaign in the North... Its from where it was found , they referred to others as picts also
Do you think it's possible at all that when the PIcts were writing ERRDENNN and variations of, on several different stones, they may have been leaving the name that they called themselves? And not in fact, the name of a King.
I don’t think anyone will answer as I’ve asked many a time on a few Pictish pages. I was born in Alyth and was brought up in Coupar Angus, now live in Perth. I would love to know possibly my Pictish tribe who would have lived in this area during the pagan Pictish era? Thank you for any response. 🧙♂️
WA CUMMINGS "THE AGE OF THE PICTS" BOOK IS A GOOD START,Perth Library,Meigle Museum,Royal Society of Antiquaries of Scotland Website. HappyHUNTING Ray.
@@tuathadesidhe1530 Dear Tuatha, If you live in Scotland your local library will have childrens books on the Picts,my collection of books are all academic and mature reading,good luck with your project and let me know if i can help you further.
The origin of the Pictish language has been a subject of intense debate for many decades . I have to agree with Jackson that Pictish is likely to be pre Indo European and disagree with Forsythe with her thesis of a Celtic origin . I think genealogy is helping us a great deal indeed in the same sense and the Pictish toponymy is clearly non Celtic . The capital of the Picts was Urqhart , in my humble opinion that means surrounded by water , URARTE, the same in Basque and Sumerian. The river URE , water in Basque . ALBA or ARABA means low land in Basque . I wouldn’t object to Federico Krutwig’s theory that CAMPBELL derives from GAN BEL , black night in Basque. IBAR means river in many ancient languages and ABAR or ABER means valley in Celtic languages , yes , but also in Etruscan , Iberian and Basque.
Campbell is actually a nickname as the Chiefs of the Lochawe Familia now Argyll, carried a faulty gene which caused their mouths to be twisted only known in the males that they were called crooked mouth,wrymouth cam is the Celtic word for crooked,twisted or excessively distorted as the Cameron;s also had twisted noses where they carry a nickname meaning just that.In Scotland it was usual to call VIP'S by their land ownership ie Earl of Argyll would be addressed as Argyll by his Equals in social standing.
@@geoffhunter7704 I know that Campbell means something close to crooked mouth in Gaelic . Krutwig , a first class scholar , was aware of that theory , he just disagreed with it . I’m very skeptic about the faulty gene theory .
I don't know what you have been reading about the origins of Pictish, but none of what you have said is supported by any of the material I have read on historical linguistics over the past 40 years. The name Urquhart is a corruption of an Old Gaelic and Old Welsh name "Airdchartdan" and means "by a thicket". The letter combination "quh" is the spelling convention in the Older Scots Tongue for rendering a "ch" or "wh" sound. The name has nothing to do with water or with the Basque word "ugarte" meaning an island. Basque is considered a language isolate, i.e. a language with no known living relatives. That much has been ascertained over many centuries by people who have also studied ancient languages like Sumerian. Any resemblance between the sound of words and their meaning is purely coincidental here and not to be trusted. Federico Krutwig is the only person ever to postulate that Basque, Guanche (Canary Islands language) and Pictish were related, or even the same language. No specialists in ancient languages, let alone Celtic languages agree with him. Pictish is considered to have been a Britonnic P-Celtic language, i.e. related to Welsh. In Welsh, Cumbrian and Pictish, "aber" does not mean a "valley". It means the mouth of a river or confluence of two rivers. As for the name Campbell (or Caimbeul in Gaelic), the name is definitely of Gaelic origin and has nothing to do with Basque. It is consistent with the naming patterns in Gaelic-speaking Scotland where people who were named by patronymics often had identical names and were distinguished by the addition of a descriptive feature relating to their appearance or a personal characteristic. Krutwig is just fantasizing here.
@@alicemilne1444 thank you, I was puzzled as well until you wrote this as this explanation is what I grew up reading or watching and understood, I'm glad you cleared this up
I wouldn't give much credibility to Gordon Nobles account. The archaeology etc stands on it's own merit. The genetic record and the accounts of the Irish who were also Colonized by Romes mercenaries is much more noteworthy. Gordon Noble is clearly an agent of Rome and Colonialism. No doubt air brushing what they want airbrushed and of course profiting from Scotland's culture and ancestry. It would be interesting to hear his views on the current Palestinian genocide. I think that would tell us all we need to know about his Geo-religio-political sympathies. This is a much more authentic picture of the Picts who are from Sythian origin and possibly Egyptian as well. Robert Sepher a published anthropologist puts their language on the Ayrian spectrum same as the Sythian indo-European branch of anthropology. You cant rule out Russian origin lines either at this stage of the genealogy project. The Pictish Problem - Genetics of Scotland th-cam.com/video/4XDS957HCIw/w-d-xo.html
Building Castles in the sand, I think not oh Sir intelligent Picts 'thing, stuff' defending to evilest dark Roman Italy times. Thank you very intelligent King Charles Regina the III, Buckingham Palace and no more war games at all Earth.
Mr Anderson i would recommend you do not go to the pub in Wales or the borders and say its part of England, Mr Burrell, Bernicia from Brynach Brythonic hilly
This is in Scotland, stop confusing people about " northern Briton" A very vague description. I could say Southern Briton, could be England or Wales? Get your Kingdoms right!
Did you just refer to the picts as Anglo Saxon? I replayed it 3 times just to be sure that my ears had not deceived me. What is this tripe you are peddling sir?
The monk bede wrote in 730 in his book ecclesiastical history said that picts came from scythia and the bruce said in his letter to the pope declaration of arbroath we scythians
There's almost no remains of Pictish settlements so the ones that remain are the better made ones meaning elites. Apparently Picts adopted a type of housing construction that didn't leave deep post holes like earlier Iron Age houses did. Which means such buildings are only known from abandoned regions as farming practices plough up the top of the soil and destroy the evidence for such houses. The reason they know such houses exist is because they've been found in abandoned unfarmed areas such as inside hillforts which elites lived in.
Why does all the findings from most excavations look the same as though trying to say every tribe clans have a pale hue, as though the carbon neutral being was never there when they clearly were there. We know some have DNA and some have DEA so what is it. This should be easy way of knowing the pure facts of who they were.
It was the same language not just Welsh you chopper. Wales is just part of England not even a Kingdom the Picts Welsh and Cornish were the last if the original inhabitants of these lands but the language was not Welsh it was just the language spoken
Thank you ,interesting details.
God bless
Thank you for this video. My surname, Burrell, is an ancient family of Boernicians, a mix of Pict, Angle and Viking, from Northumbria.
Great presentation. 👍 You would have to assume they built that citidel but lost their livestock (wealth) to raiders. Thereafter, building the 2nd wall to protect themselves and their wealth. It was large to protect a common wealth. Castles were smaller because they were owned by the raiders.
Fascinating! Thank you!
Fascinating, thanks
Very informative! Thanks from Englewood, Colorado, USA!
Amazing, my mother whos mother settled in eastern Canada is from Scottland, they are the Cairns but I have lost the family tree as it's hard to track the history far back. How would you recommend I investigate. My mother is very tall and lean and high cheekbones. She fierce in passion and stubborn, sound Pictish!!!
Would recommend DNA test with Ancestry and FTDNA (Family Tree DNA). Then join respective projects that align with results. That will give you a good baseline to work from.
Just me or does the image on the stone tablet (Land and the written word) at ~3:19, specifically what looks like handcuffs (Infinity symbol?) with the circle up above it (sun?) seem similar to Egyptian, possibly Scythian imagery?
This should really be updated
You think that a presentation by the leading academic in the filed should be updated one month after it was presented?
i like the cough after the raiding part.
On one of the Pictish stone slides, there appears to be Ogham writing on it. Could this be your Roseta stone?
No, people know about these stones and Ogham.
Some of the Pictish stones have been interpreted at a very minor level. Using these small traces of Ogham, Pictish has been interpreted overall as being a form of “P-Celtic”.
However there is still not enough left behind to fully interpret and reconstruct what the Pictish language actually was.
Q&A re: tattooing - could livestock *branding* be the key to interpretation as in Caucasus clan markings? Romans branded slaves, so technique known to Iron age cattle-herders perhaps> developed catalog of symbols to identify breeding pedigrees ? Metalwork moulds shown in presentation have distinct troughs and ridges suitable for creating a linear images after heating over a fire?
Yes Mr Anderson, of course, not Welsh but many names/place names are cognate in Welsh,a living language. Certainly swathes of Pictish territory were northern branches of Brittonic tribes, indeed the Manau of Gododdin/Clackmannan being a part, birthplace of Cunedda became Pictish territory
Very interesting... personally I don't think the Dice Tower is for the campaign in the North... Its from where it was found , they referred to others as picts also
Do you think it's possible at all that when the PIcts were writing ERRDENNN and variations of, on several different stones, they may have been leaving the name that they called themselves? And not in fact, the name of a King.
The man of Rhynie, go up Ben Macdui and just look around, he's still doing his work.
I don’t think anyone will answer as I’ve asked many a time on a few Pictish pages. I was born in Alyth and was brought up in Coupar Angus, now live in Perth. I would love to know possibly my Pictish tribe who would have lived in this area during the pagan Pictish era? Thank you for any response. 🧙♂️
Maybe the Pictish Kingdom of Fotla or Circind? I just googled 'map of Pictish Scotland', happy hunting 😊
See WA Cummings book "THE AGE OF THE PICTS" which though little known does the research well (Aberdeen Uni).
WA CUMMINGS "THE AGE OF THE PICTS" BOOK IS A GOOD START,Perth Library,Meigle Museum,Royal Society of Antiquaries of Scotland Website. HappyHUNTING Ray.
@@geoffhunter7704 do you know of any good kids picture books on the Picts ? We are doing a history time-line and I would love to cover the Picts.
@@tuathadesidhe1530 Dear Tuatha, If you live in Scotland your local library will have childrens books on the Picts,my collection of books are all academic and mature reading,good luck with your project and let me know if i can help you further.
If Pictish war bands gave the Roman heathen a hard time, they are alright by me.
The origin of the Pictish language has been a subject of intense debate for many decades . I have to agree with Jackson that Pictish is likely to be pre Indo European and disagree with Forsythe with her thesis of a Celtic origin . I think genealogy is helping us a great deal indeed in the same sense and the Pictish toponymy is clearly non Celtic . The capital of the Picts was Urqhart , in my humble opinion that means surrounded by water , URARTE, the same in Basque and Sumerian. The river URE , water in Basque . ALBA or ARABA means low land in Basque . I wouldn’t object to Federico Krutwig’s theory that CAMPBELL derives from GAN BEL , black night in Basque. IBAR means river in many ancient languages and ABAR or ABER means valley in Celtic languages , yes , but also in Etruscan , Iberian and Basque.
Campbell is actually a nickname as the Chiefs of the Lochawe Familia now Argyll, carried a faulty gene which caused their mouths to be twisted only known in the males that they were called crooked mouth,wrymouth cam is the Celtic word for crooked,twisted or excessively distorted as the Cameron;s also had twisted noses where they carry a nickname meaning just that.In Scotland it was usual to call VIP'S by their land ownership ie Earl of Argyll would be addressed as Argyll by his Equals in social standing.
@@geoffhunter7704 I know that Campbell means something close to crooked mouth in Gaelic . Krutwig , a first class scholar , was aware of that theory , he just disagreed with it .
I’m very skeptic about the faulty gene theory .
P and Q celtic languages are both indo germanic.
I don't know what you have been reading about the origins of Pictish, but none of what you have said is supported by any of the material I have read on historical linguistics over the past 40 years. The name Urquhart is a corruption of an Old Gaelic and Old Welsh name "Airdchartdan" and means "by a thicket". The letter combination "quh" is the spelling convention in the Older Scots Tongue for rendering a "ch" or "wh" sound. The name has nothing to do with water or with the Basque word "ugarte" meaning an island.
Basque is considered a language isolate, i.e. a language with no known living relatives. That much has been ascertained over many centuries by people who have also studied ancient languages like Sumerian. Any resemblance between the sound of words and their meaning is purely coincidental here and not to be trusted. Federico Krutwig is the only person ever to postulate that Basque, Guanche (Canary Islands language) and Pictish were related, or even the same language. No specialists in ancient languages, let alone Celtic languages agree with him.
Pictish is considered to have been a Britonnic P-Celtic language, i.e. related to Welsh. In Welsh, Cumbrian and Pictish, "aber" does not mean a "valley". It means the mouth of a river or confluence of two rivers.
As for the name Campbell (or Caimbeul in Gaelic), the name is definitely of Gaelic origin and has nothing to do with Basque. It is consistent with the naming patterns in Gaelic-speaking Scotland where people who were named by patronymics often had identical names and were distinguished by the addition of a descriptive feature relating to their appearance or a personal characteristic. Krutwig is just fantasizing here.
@@alicemilne1444 thank you, I was puzzled as well until you wrote this as this explanation is what I grew up reading or watching and understood, I'm glad you cleared this up
Should we be looking closer to the irish? After all the picts had irish women when on arrival.
I guess the Irish are doing that. He does show the map that shows Irish finds.
I wouldn't give much credibility to Gordon Nobles account. The archaeology etc stands on it's own merit. The genetic record and the accounts of the Irish who were also Colonized by Romes mercenaries is much more noteworthy. Gordon Noble is clearly an agent of Rome and Colonialism. No doubt air brushing what they want airbrushed and of course profiting from Scotland's culture and ancestry. It would be interesting to hear his views on the current Palestinian genocide. I think that would tell us all we need to know about his Geo-religio-political sympathies. This is a much more authentic picture of the Picts who are from Sythian origin and possibly Egyptian as well. Robert Sepher a published anthropologist puts their language on the Ayrian spectrum same as the Sythian indo-European branch of anthropology. You cant rule out Russian origin lines either at this stage of the genealogy project. The Pictish Problem - Genetics of Scotland th-cam.com/video/4XDS957HCIw/w-d-xo.html
Building Castles in the sand, I think not oh Sir intelligent Picts 'thing, stuff' defending to evilest dark Roman Italy times. Thank you very intelligent King Charles Regina the III, Buckingham Palace and no more war games at all Earth.
If you guys want to know how to read pictish Id be happy to tell you.
Mr Anderson i would recommend you do not go to the pub in Wales or the borders and say its part of England, Mr Burrell, Bernicia from Brynach Brythonic hilly
This is in Scotland, stop confusing people about " northern Briton" A very vague description. I could say Southern Briton, could be England or Wales?
Get your Kingdoms right!
Did you just refer to the picts as Anglo Saxon? I replayed it 3 times just to be sure that my ears had not deceived me. What is this tripe you are peddling sir?
The monk bede wrote in 730 in his book ecclesiastical history said that picts came from scythia and the bruce said in his letter to the pope declaration of arbroath we scythians
Noble thinks every Pictish site was "Elite" , as if he's pushing a certain agenda.
There's almost no remains of Pictish settlements so the ones that remain are the better made ones meaning elites. Apparently Picts adopted a type of housing construction that didn't leave deep post holes like earlier Iron Age houses did. Which means such buildings are only known from abandoned regions as farming practices plough up the top of the soil and destroy the evidence for such houses. The reason they know such houses exist is because they've been found in abandoned unfarmed areas such as inside hillforts which elites lived in.
Why does all the findings from most excavations look the same as though trying to say every tribe clans have a pale hue, as though the carbon neutral being was never there when they clearly were there.
We know some have DNA and some have DEA so what is it. This should be easy way of knowing the pure facts of who they were.
What on earth are you talking about?
@@AnDuineSaor looks like another one of these delusional woke beings that can't deal with the reality that white people have their own culture.
Why don't you use the welsh way to pronounce these words are brythonic aren't they.
Aberdeen, Aberystwyth, Pit, Peth, Perth, blackthorn hedged enclosure, Tay, Teifi, Monadh, Mynydd, Urquart, Wir Garth seems obvious to me, learn some Welsh!
It was the same language not just Welsh you chopper. Wales is just part of England not even a Kingdom the Picts Welsh and Cornish were the last if the original inhabitants of these lands but the language was not Welsh it was just the language spoken
“Pictish” was the language of Irelands Tuatha Dé Danann.
Terrible presentation!
Would be interesting if you explained why you think that.
It’s no doubt a lecture to other academics not the usual television type documentary, how you don’t understand that is bizarre.