The Ancient Tribes of Scotland & Northern England

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  • @BadgerOfTheSea
    @BadgerOfTheSea 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +191

    Herodotus, who wrote that hippopotamus had the mane and tail of a horse, a lioness could only give birth once because it's cubs tore up it's womb, and that the deeper you went into the desert the bigger the ants got until they were bigger than horses thought that a small island you can get tin from was "too fantastical". RIP Herodotus. He would have loved TikTok conspiracy videos.

    • @eekee6034
      @eekee6034 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      Herodotus made clear the difference between what he'd seen with his own eyes and what he'd heard from others. He wrote that he didn't believe half of what he'd been told. Whether he would have loved TikTok is another matter; everyone loves a good conspiracy theory in one way or another. :)

    • @FissionCube
      @FissionCube 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      @@eekee6034 i mean 'ive heard it said there is an island here where tin is found' not being included over 'i heard there are griffins in europe that guard gold from people with one eye' because the island seemed too fantastical still comes across as very funny even if he didn't necessarily believe everything he heard about and wrote down to be true

  • @StuffandThings_
    @StuffandThings_ ปีที่แล้ว +350

    Its kind of crazy how mysterious Britain is, as opposed to much of the rest of Roman Europe. Like, there's juuust enough information to have a clue as to what was going on, but very few useful details.

    • @CambrianChronicles
      @CambrianChronicles  ปีที่แล้ว +94

      Indeed, it's frustrating not to know more, but the mystique has a huge draw to it

    • @V.B.Squire
      @V.B.Squire ปีที่แล้ว +29

      ​@@CambrianChroniclesif the Romans did invade America we'd still know more about East Coast Indians than the ancient Britons

    • @Eokoi
      @Eokoi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@CambrianChronicles The mystic nature of this makes your videos very interesting to watch

    • @kets4443
      @kets4443 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Not just the mystique, but also the drama of all these different lost kingdoms on the edge of their world, I'm usually into Asian history but this is fascinating

  • @zoroastriankurd7163
    @zoroastriankurd7163 ปีที่แล้ว +580

    I would love a video on the Celtic Kingdom of Elmet, seems to me as if it's the least explored polity of the Old North

    • @CambrianChronicles
      @CambrianChronicles  ปีที่แล้ว +157

      I'm planning to sometime soon!

    • @eamonnclabby7067
      @eamonnclabby7067 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      ​@@CambrianChroniclescertainly plenty of nice scenery in West Yorkshire and Lancashire, and present day Brigantes...😊😊

    • @hobi1kenobi112
      @hobi1kenobi112 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      ​@@eamonnclabby7067 There's a strong case for King Arthur being a Yorkshire/Pennine king who really existed.

    • @korumann
      @korumann ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@hobi1kenobi112 have you watched his video on King Arthur?

    • @hobi1kenobi112
      @hobi1kenobi112 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      ​@@korumannNo, I'll go and find it though. 😊
      Regarding Elmet, when you drive through from West to East Yorkshire there are several open references in place names and other clues that you are indeed in Elmet. The past incarnations of British counties is fascinating. ❤

  • @markwynne725
    @markwynne725 ปีที่แล้ว +240

    Thank you! This is a video I was long hoping for.
    The Setantii occupied my native Lancashire and are poorly documented. But there were well established farms and long lived roads found by archeology, so there was permanent settlement before and during Roman occupation.

    • @crumblingmasonry8961
      @crumblingmasonry8961 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      You weren't the only one waiting! I found the channel last week and binged it promptly.

    • @CambrianChronicles
      @CambrianChronicles  ปีที่แล้ว +56

      Indeed, there were a lot of permanent settlements in the north, a while ago it was popular thinking that almost everybody would have been semi-nomadic, but there's plenty of evidence to counter this today as you said.

    • @captainanopheles4307
      @captainanopheles4307 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      It's a shame so little archeology is done in most of the NW of England because of policies by the Duke of Westminster who is a major landowner and United Utilities who largely owns the rest.

    • @eamonnclabby7067
      @eamonnclabby7067 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ​@@CambrianChroniclesTom Sleman a local author has written extensively about this...described a timeslip incident involving chariots on the old coach road by the East Lancashire road in Knowsley

    • @CambrianChronicles
      @CambrianChronicles  ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @captainanopheles4307 that explains why I couldn't find any artefacts to show next to the Setantii

  • @StuffandThings_
    @StuffandThings_ ปีที่แล้ว +141

    I have a few topic suggestions, of stuff I've been consistently wondering throughout these videos; what were the population sizes involved? What sort of technology was in use in those times and places? What did the landscapes look like during this time as opposed to now (because of deforestation, agricultural changes, rivers moving, etc)? I'm always curious about the details of the setting for all of these stories.

    • @CambrianChronicles
      @CambrianChronicles  ปีที่แล้ว +59

      Thank you, those sound really cool, exploring the technology especially!
      I'm not sure if we have estimations for population sizes though, but there are estimates for about 2,000,000 to 3,000,000 people being in Great Britain by the fall of the Western Roman Empire.
      Landscape change would also be super interesting! A lot of the major rivers probably looked fairly different, some portions may have also flooded a lot more (such as the Severn)

    • @Joanna-il2ur
      @Joanna-il2ur ปีที่แล้ว +31

      The deforestation of Britain took place during the Iron Age, c.750BC and after. This was because Iron smelting requires charcoal and you need a lot of trees for that. Bronze (copper 85%, tin 15%) requires much less heat. Under so called ancient woodland there are plough furrows and crop plant seeds, such as wheat, all from the Roman era. They ploughed to higher contours than were ever ploughed again till WWII. Most of the forests we have today are recent and date mainly back to the 18th century, when land enclosure perversely brought more land under trees. I live in Suffolk, just up the road from the Kings Forest, which was only planted in the 1920s, to replace all the wood used up in WWI.

    • @eamonnclabby7067
      @eamonnclabby7067 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@Joanna-il2urgood point well made...E...

    • @WK-47
      @WK-47 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Those kinds of details also interest me, especially in periods and regions where the historical record is sparse, such as this.
      CC mentions population sizes above and in the video the fact that at least one tribe didn't have metalworking at the time. Just goes to show that what terms like Neolithic and Bronze Age refer to are more relative and variable than we often think.
      Otherwise, and although it's a bit of a generalisation, Britain was one big woodland, until as another commenter says the Iron Age saw most of the old growth cut down. I suppose the exceptions might be natural wetland areas (likely not as they are now for the reasons you say, such as shifting waterways) and stretches where the soil supports heath but not even coniferous trees, as in the Highlands and western Scotland. That's assuming not all of what we see of this today is a result of land mgmt or human intervention in general - harder to say than in the case of the muirs/moors that we know were originally forested.
      As for material tech, it seems Britain was slightly behind the Continent when it came to metalworking developments, but they'd be flush with tin whereas it was an imported commodity in most regions elsewhere. Sure, the ancient Britons traded loads of their tin for goods from the more developed Mediterranean, but it follows that if they were mining it in the first place, they almost certainly knew it as a component of bronze (preferable over arsenic, etc.) and not just for its commercial value.
      Could be wrong or inaccurate on any or all of these counts - just my understanding as a layman. Take care.

    • @Joanna-il2ur
      @Joanna-il2ur ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@WK-47 some parts of Iron Age Britain were aceramic, which means they had no pottery. This is west and north of a line from the Bristol Channel to the Wash. they had metal, but no coins, unlike the south east, which had coins for a hundred years, they were at a different state of technology. They had simpler weapons too.

  • @sa25-svredemption98
    @sa25-svredemption98 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    The Intervellum (a term meaning between the walls) has an interesting history that needs to be explored - not just during the Roman occupation, but also of the history following it. Sadly, it is often neglected in lieu of the history of the Picts in the north and the Anglo-Saxons to the south, although some literature and film exists on the southern Celts (such as the Welsh and the Arthurian legends). But this channel has a great opportunity to fill that gap!

  • @gwynevans6440
    @gwynevans6440 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    Great video as ever. Caled is the Brythonic word for "hard" (as in tough) and I've read that Caledion would basically mean "The kingdom of the hard/tough land". Which would totally fit your suposition that they held the inner highlands.

    • @Joanna-il2ur
      @Joanna-il2ur ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I wonder if the name comes from mythology. In Greek and Roman myth, there is a well known one about the Boar Hunt of Calydon, which involved all sorts of heroes and gods. The version I would consider is the one from Ovid Metamorphoses. I wonder if the area led someone in the Roman world to use that name. I don’t know if Caledonia was ever used by the Romans. There was a tribe or pair of tribes called the Dicalidoni at one point, but Roman names for them are varied and a bit unsafe. They tend to change over time.

    • @fugoogle9757
      @fugoogle9757 ปีที่แล้ว

      Caille is witch or hag in irish and this name was often given t areas of land that were/are barren, such as much of Caledonia...

    • @gwynevans6440
      @gwynevans6440 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Joanna-il2ur Very interesting!

    • @baronesspdls-m
      @baronesspdls-m ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Lowland Scots still call the Highlander "teuchters".which roughly means hard or tough. It has been used offensively, and a lot of Highlanders don't like it so don't go slipping it into conversation but its interesting that the idea of the Highlands as a hard place persists.

    • @praisethelordpig1212
      @praisethelordpig1212 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ve read a book called before Scotland and that actually is true

  • @sabrinaleedance
    @sabrinaleedance 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The drama of the celtic rulers vs the romans, loyalty, betrayal, civil war, and eventual conquest, should def be a hustirical drama like Vikings

  • @mlgdigimon
    @mlgdigimon ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Yes finally, the sequel to my favourite video of yours. More of these types of videos would be awesome

  • @HarryAidan1819
    @HarryAidan1819 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I think this video eventually would lead very nicely into exploring Rheged. A kingdom whose history up here in the North West is very closely intertwined with that of North Wales and Southern Scotland. It would be interesting to see if any new information could be gleaned. Very good video all the same as always! Keep it up! :D

    • @damionkeeling3103
      @damionkeeling3103 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Even the name is mysterious. I'd wonder if the name came from a placename like Rigodunum like Camelot came from Camulodunum. There is a Rigodunum that's thought to be Castleshaw near Rochdale.

    • @DH.2016
      @DH.2016 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      On a visit to Ambleside Roman Fort, I was struck by the theory that this fort may have been known as Galava. Think about this. If swords were manufactured there during the Romano-British period and you had one of exceptional quality, you might be asked where it came from. "Ex-Galava" you would say, if replying in Latin. And there is a lake nearby. Purely fanciful on my part, of course ... or is it? 🤔😄

    • @OldNavajoTricks
      @OldNavajoTricks ปีที่แล้ว

      Not the first time I've heard that theory, school trips up home were always cool af :-D

  • @johng7003
    @johng7003 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Im not British or Irish neither have been born in the isles but as someone that has been interested in the Celtic world both the past and the present, thank you for making these videos and also showing even Englands Celtic past. So many English, forget or just think they are genetically the descendants of Anglo-Saxons only ( and maybe Norse and Normans) but nothing else, so these videos give them the opportunity to embrace and learn about their Celtic heritage or at least past too. And yes, i would love a video on any knowledge of the Irish tribes in Ireland also.

    • @macwinter7101
      @macwinter7101 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Unfortunately, Celtic ancestry is surprisingly rare in England. There is higher Celtic ancestry in the Scottish highlands, Ireland, Wales and Cornwall, however. While some people want to claim that the arrival of the Germanic tribes in Britain was peaceful, regardless of how they choose to see it, Celtic tribes were largely displaced in what is now England with very little evidence of genetic mixing in the present-day population. I will point out, however, that Celtic and Germanic tribes are closely related and are both subsets of the Indo-European language family. They are both descended from the same population of people that migrated into Europe from presumably the Pontic-Caspian Steppe.

    • @billlecky7964
      @billlecky7964 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @johng7003 in my experience most English people have very vague or no ideas as to their origins. Most are of the opinion that there's always been an England and they've always been here. I think it would be ambitious in the extreme to get them to embrace their Celtic heritage. They generally view the Celtic People, Scots, Irish and Welsh as inferior and hate the Germans because of the World Wars and usually losing to them at football. So when informed that their language, culture and alot of their dna is Germanic, they don't like it. There are parallels with Mexicans who are also largely a hybrid of their coloniser Spain and the indigenous people, who feel similarly towards their component parts as the English do to their's.

    • @billlecky7964
      @billlecky7964 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @macwinter7101 though I agree with most of what you've said, I have never heard of Anglo Saxon genetics being in the majority amongst the English. I have read many times that it varies from as low as 10% to 40 odd% regionally, the highest I ever heard was 48% in a study by London University Goldsmiths college twenty years ago. However, I have also read that some Geneticists say the Celtic population was 80% replaced. Which is difficult to reconcile with my earlier stats. I have read that genetic analysis of the English shows that usually the Celtic genetics appear following the maternal lines and the Anglo Saxon on the Paternal lines which along with the dirth of Brythonic in English points to conquest rather than migration and assimilation.

    • @Rebmulrooneyward
      @Rebmulrooneyward 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@macwinter7101I'm not sure that's correct that it's surprisingly rare amongst the English. I read a study from the last few years that claimed the average English person has 20% celtic DNA along with 30-40% Anglo-Saxon. That's hardly rare! Its not strictly true that the English are anglo-saxons and everybody else are celts because we have mingled so much! Taking myself for example I'm English with mostly English heritage but have Irish Scottish and Welsh in my family tree from the last 200 years. I doubt that's unique for an English person either.

    • @AndrewCowell-sz9dx
      @AndrewCowell-sz9dx 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Rebmulrooneywardyou could probably add Italian,Spanish,Portuguese and probably French I’m sure one would pop up😊

  • @bestrafung2754
    @bestrafung2754 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I'd love to see a video on Ireland during the Roman era and before. Not much is really known about it but there's a theory that the Romans may have landed there, although how long they stayed there is unknown, but it probably wasn't very long. We do know that the Romans very likely traded with them though. A video on the Isle of Man could be interesting too, as very little is known about it and we don't even know if anyone actually lived there until after the Romans left Britain.

    • @Gaca-rl9ze
      @Gaca-rl9ze ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Bumping that, it would be cool to complete the pre-Roman picture

    • @eamonnclabby7067
      @eamonnclabby7067 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ​@@Gaca-rl9zeThe Manx weathered being under Gaelic, Angle, Norse,domination..interesting place😊

    • @TheGreatDefective
      @TheGreatDefective ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@eamonnclabby7067wait until you hear how many people have taken over France at some point

    • @RR-pe5or
      @RR-pe5or ปีที่แล้ว +1

      According to modern Irish sources, the ancient Irish were black (though not necessarily of the negroid black race), and there was a giant ice sheet that separated what is now Ireland from Great Britain (Hence the mountainous areas of the Hebrides of Scotland and Northern-Western Wales formed by glaciers).
      While the ancient Scots lived in pockets of the North-East such as Aberdeenshire and Skara Brae, this was a time when Doggerland was not submerged beneath the North Sea and Scotland was separated from Scandinavia by a large river instead of a large mass of sea as today. While the ancient proto-English and Welsh lived in pockets of the East Coast of Anglia as the West was largely uninhabitable in the last ice age.

    • @mike_lowndes
      @mike_lowndes 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nah. The VAST majority of this video is based on Roman writing. There's small amount of place and river naming evidence and some archeology that does not always help e.g. extant Pictish symbology is clearly distinct from 'celtic'. Outside of Roman influence we are left with very little as there was no literature. Your best source are the Irish folk tales, myths and legends. We do know that there was some form of 'invasion', culturally at least of 'Caledonia' after the Romans, the Scotti being a nothern Irish tribe but now naming the whole country.

  • @spacebunny4335
    @spacebunny4335 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I would love to see a video about the kingdom of Dumnonia as I think it one of the least explored and underrated kingdoms of Post-Roman Britian. Also a wonderful video I find this content on Pre-Roman Britian absolutely fascinating.

  • @WelshWing98
    @WelshWing98 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Another great video as always, I’d love you to cover the Silures in more detail as the tribe that caused the Romans the most headache. (But I could just be a biased South Welsh man) 😂

    • @CambrianChronicles
      @CambrianChronicles  ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I definitely will do at some point! I want to cover Caractacus too so that'll tie into it as well.

    • @Inquisitor_Vex
      @Inquisitor_Vex ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh, yes please!

  • @jwardwilliams
    @jwardwilliams ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Yes! Yes! Yes! I regret that I’m late, but so happy to see you doing this. I’d love to see more coverage of the Hen Ogledd and all of its kingdoms. The information you have is always spot on and the visuals are great. I’d also love to learn if you’ve found any of the supposed ties of the Celtic tribes of the north to those in the south. Such examples being the Cornovii in modern Wales, England, and Scotland, or the Dumnonni of England and the Damnonii in Scotland. Either way this is fun!

  • @COOPERhenckel
    @COOPERhenckel ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Great work on the new videos. I appreciate how much effort goes into the production and editing! Couldn't even get through the first few minutes without popping in to comment on it. Thank you for adding just that much more quality to your work.

    • @CambrianChronicles
      @CambrianChronicles  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thank you very much! I've tried to work hard on upping the quality, so I'm glad it's showing

    • @COOPERhenckel
      @COOPERhenckel ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CambrianChronicles You made 20 minutes of visuals out of two maps but I doubt most viewers would catch how "little" they saw -- well done! Very much paying off!

  • @blecis74
    @blecis74 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Some video ideas you could do in the future:
    1 Celtic tribes of Ireland
    2. Celtic technologies/things invented by the Celts
    3. Profiles on individuals e.g Cartimandua, Boudicca etc
    4. History of the 6 modern Celtic nations

    • @themiband0598
      @themiband0598 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      6?

    • @blecis74
      @blecis74 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@themiband0598 yeah, Scotland, Wales, Ireland, Britany, Isle of Man and Cornwall.

  • @tjxure
    @tjxure ปีที่แล้ว +4

    delighted to finally see the long awaited pt. 2 ❤

  • @TheJonnyjoh
    @TheJonnyjoh ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You got a new mic! Sounds really great! And I really liked the now even more flowing animation style! Keep it up, CC!

    • @CambrianChronicles
      @CambrianChronicles  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you! I've been practicing with both, and hopefully I'll get the hang of it soon

  • @lexx2645
    @lexx2645 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Absolutely fascinating video as always! Your work never ceases to amaze me. Thank you so much for all the work you do to create these captivating and interesting videos of some of the most entrancing eras of Britain. May your popularity soon match your greatness.

  • @benb7883
    @benb7883 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Just discovered your channel and have been binging through your videos, really really great stuff. Post Roman Britain in particular is really interesting to me. I also love toponymy which gets a lot of attention in this channel, which is great.
    Random question (relates to a project I’ve been working on) but how would you Brythonisize(that’s not a word I know) the Latin name Pelagius?

    • @CambrianChronicles
      @CambrianChronicles  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Thank you, I'm glad! Toponomy and place-names in general are always super fascinating to me, so I'm glad to hear that at least one other person likes them.
      For Pelagius, it would sort of depend on the time period. It has entered Welsh as both "Pelagiws", and "Peleg" (as Latin suffixes were largely dropped over time in post-Roman Wales).

  • @garrgravarr
    @garrgravarr ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fantastic richness of detail from relative scarcity. Great vid. Thank you.

  • @lowlandnobleman6746
    @lowlandnobleman6746 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I always love a good video on Celtic history. Clicked immediately upon seeing it pop up.

  • @johnabcs1
    @johnabcs1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow...was not expecting Namaste.
    Namaste was a track that got me through some tough times - thanks for including it

  • @nathanthomson1931
    @nathanthomson1931 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Your vids are top quality content! As a History teacher, you approach to discussing things is manna from heaven

  • @edgarsnake2857
    @edgarsnake2857 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is the area that my ancestors are from--east coast near the border of England and Scotland. Thanks for all your excellent content.

  • @JackHeywood
    @JackHeywood ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Would love to hear more about the Yorkshire Dales, specifically Dunoting/Dunaut, Elmet, and Craven.

  • @dwightschrute1914
    @dwightschrute1914 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Got to love some Celtic history! Could you cover some on Hwicce at some point? I can't find too much information on it and honestly don't know if it's celtic or germanic 😅

    • @CambrianChronicles
      @CambrianChronicles  ปีที่แล้ว +12

      That'd definitely be a good topic, there are debates on their origins which would be cool to cover. I've seen more favour to them having Brythonic origins I think, especially since Wessex still had a king with a Welsh name in the 7th century.

    • @hobi1kenobi112
      @hobi1kenobi112 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I feel pretty sure that we're going to eventually find that what we all 'Celtic' and 'Germanic' are interchangeable. I believe that all these varied European factions were likely to have been different branches of the same tribes pushing West from the modern Middle East and Russia. I think that they had the same, or similar roots, just adopting different lifestyles and customs at different periods and according to where they ended up.

    • @andrewreynolds4949
      @andrewreynolds4949 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There’s not really dispute that the Celtic and Germanic tribes ultimately had the same roots, as they are both of Indo-European descent. They are not the same, as culture and language differed greatly by this time. What is likely true though is a more gradual shift and more gray lines than the simple popular depiction of an invasion

    • @waynenash6008
      @waynenash6008 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hwicce, were a large Anglo Saxon tribe, who settled in what became Mercia I believe,,

  • @SolarDragon1000
    @SolarDragon1000 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video! I would really like to hear more about the Votadini and the Gododdin, as we have hundreds of small and large hill forts, archaeological remains, and carved stones / rock art left behind by them. From what I can tell looking around the area, they were quite prosperous, and left a strong mark on the landscape.

  • @davidgalloway266
    @davidgalloway266 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Pytheus went to Britain around 360 bc. He wrote a book called On the Sea.

  • @victorabadias9167
    @victorabadias9167 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Hi, I love your videos! They made me realize how cool are Celtic culture and history, and you have even inspired me to start learning Welsh in Duolingo!
    Bore ddydd Lau da, a Hwyl!

    • @CambrianChronicles
      @CambrianChronicles  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I was learning Welsh on there for a while but I had to pause for a bit, I've continued now though!

  • @captainanopheles4307
    @captainanopheles4307 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Setantii seems close to Setanta, the man who became CuCulain of Irish myth, a kind of Celtic Hulk figure, which is interesting.

    • @markwynne725
      @markwynne725 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      There has been some conjecture that the two are related. There was a Briganti tribe listed in Ireland (by Ptolemy). And the chariots used by Cuculain were not known in Ireland but were noted by Caesar in Britain. But there is a long history of contact across the Irish Sea, so who knows when these story elements crossed.

    • @CambrianChronicles
      @CambrianChronicles  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That is interesting, although if Breeze is correct in thinking that "Setantii" should be "Metantii", then Setanta would have be based off of the spelling unique to Ptolemy's work, which wouldn't be impossible, just a bit unusual.

    • @captainanopheles4307
      @captainanopheles4307 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@CambrianChronicles perhaps Setantii is related to the old name of the Mersey, which seem similar to my unlearned ear.

    • @damionkeeling3103
      @damionkeeling3103 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@captainanopheles4307 The Mersey is one of the rare instances of an important waterway losing its ancient Bythonic name to an Anglo-Saxon one. It shares a common origin with the early kingdom of Mercia, both referring to boundaries. The Mersey possibly formed a river boundary between Mercia and Northumbria or perhaps a British kingdom.

    • @sealy_99
      @sealy_99 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@captainanopheles4307 What is the old name of the Mersey?

  • @brainrot4919
    @brainrot4919 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Fascinating as always to learn about my ancient heritage and the video is very well done and nicely presented. I love coming across channels like these. You've easily earned a sub from me and look foward to seeing more like this, thank you.

  • @chadhill455
    @chadhill455 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had no clue we knew this much about the tribes. This channel is an absolute Godsend 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

  • @ItsJustCartier
    @ItsJustCartier ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would defiantly love to see you do a vid on the Roman conquests of Britain.

  • @bremnersghost948
    @bremnersghost948 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Brigantes controlled Dublin or the Blackpool on some Roman maps so it makes sense that Romans if not Agricola at least made a visit to Ireland as "Guests" of the Brigantes.

  • @michaelgibson2156
    @michaelgibson2156 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Finally, someone who gets the North-South border correct!

  • @terrielburrell5545
    @terrielburrell5545 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Burrells are an ancient family from Northumbria. Thank you so much for this video. It's well done and I love how you stay on the map as you talk. Best video yet on this history.

  • @shadowmaster1313
    @shadowmaster1313 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your style of video is so well suited to illustrating the way these boundaries have been tentatively pieced together. Would love to see an Irish version if possible

  • @fnansjy456
    @fnansjy456 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Are you planning on doing a video on the old north more specifically the Kingdom of Rheged?

  • @iainmaclean612
    @iainmaclean612 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent stuff, well researched, no BS, I even learned a few new things myself and I've been researching this for 15 years. One thing I would say that you omitted to mention. The Orcadians, the Orcadians are mentioned more times than any other Caledonian/northern tribe. Orkney featured in Roman chronicles on Britainia from the very first in AD 43 to the very last under count Theodosius. Orkney is the only other area of Caledonia to be counted among the Roman provinces of Britainia after Valentina. Although it might seem highly unlikely, it cannot be denied that the Romans at least had a certain penchant for mentioning Orkney. I think there is more to this than meets the eye and the archaeology also reflects this.

  • @ldroland
    @ldroland ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Glad to see you went with option Three.

  • @blecis74
    @blecis74 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Been looking forward to this video, part one was the first video of yours I ever watched

    • @CambrianChronicles
      @CambrianChronicles  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you, I'm glad you liked it, sorry about the wait!

    • @blecis74
      @blecis74 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CambrianChronicles you don’t need to be sorry I know videos take a long time to make what with research and animation and what not.

  • @hobi1kenobi112
    @hobi1kenobi112 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My mum watched a programme on, I think, BBC2, a couple of years ago, and the guy presenting was suggesting that the Picts didn't magically vanish but interspersed throughout Britain (which seems likely), and, get this, a bunch ended up in Derbyshire. And that the Peak District translates to 'Home of the Picts.'
    I have no idea if it's viable, if it's a possible gold nugget or an absolute reach, but I wanted to mention it as I've never seen it mentioned anywhere else.

    • @DrustIV
      @DrustIV ปีที่แล้ว

      The Peak District's name is derived from the Pecsaetan, an Anglo-Saxon tribe which settled in the area.

    • @CambrianChronicles
      @CambrianChronicles  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah as the other reply said I think the Peak district connection is unlikely, but the Picts did spread throughout Britain. There was a Pictish grave found in the south of England once.

    • @eamonnclabby7067
      @eamonnclabby7067 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@CambrianChroniclesintermarriage was and is the thing....

    • @Ionabrodie69
      @Ionabrodie69 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This video is one in the eye for all those Welsh Scots and Irish that consider themselves the ONLY celts in Britain… I’m from the upper north area and it really sticks in my craw when they prattle on about being the only celts.. 🙄🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

    • @nicolasN712
      @nicolasN712 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Ionabrodie69 if you promoted/defended a celtic identity more, learned welsh and participated in international celtic organizations, competitions, celtic sports, music etc then the irish/welsh/scots/bretons/manx might start to take you more seriously. Cumbria especially has a good case to join the celtic community even today.

  • @authormichellefranklin
    @authormichellefranklin ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another great one! Well done!

  • @7cColin
    @7cColin ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Your roundup of the most northern tribes didn't mention the Verturiones, usually thought to be based in the area around modern Inverness. The name was perpetuated into the early medieval period in the name Fortriu, a powerful kingdom (or sub-kingdom?) of the Picts that was referred to several times in the various early medieval annals.

  • @angiestarwatcher
    @angiestarwatcher 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    even mentioning the line between north and south was a risky move

  • @wirelessbluestone5983
    @wirelessbluestone5983 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video though I’m interested in a video on the Picts especially the Pictish standing stones

  • @violetmoonofthenorth
    @violetmoonofthenorth ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great knowledgeable video on our ancient ancestors of the north

  • @curt3494
    @curt3494 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another fascinating video. It's very sobering to think that these people are our ancestors, but due to the timescales involved, we know hardly anything about them.

  • @IamSam614
    @IamSam614 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely fantastic video. Going to check out the others on your channel 👍🏻

  • @classiclife7204
    @classiclife7204 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What a great scholarly channel that also has plenty of interest for lay folks. I wish these tribes had a better "biographer" (not really) than a grumpy Roman historian, because pre-Norman Britain fascinates.

  • @nancyvernon3017
    @nancyvernon3017 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I believe Venetius is named for the tribe he came from "the Veneti/venedi". This is the tribe that built Venice prior to migrating through France and The British Isles. I have also read that "the Owain"( Bear) Uthur/Arthur was also Veneti. What's interesting is this tribe had a unique way of building their ports and residences ( right on the coasts) this building technique can be traced back to the Luwians/Luvians. The Luwians were the canal builders and then the Hittites followed suit.

  • @emlynwilliams9282
    @emlynwilliams9282 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So refreshing to hear correct pronunciation of the Latin names! I learned a lot, thank you.

    • @Tattvadarzin.
      @Tattvadarzin. 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I learned Latin at school, so I am intrigued as to what makes a particular pronunciation "correct". I was taught a slightly different pronunciation (e.g. V is pronounced as in Victor not Wall).

    • @MarcoCaprini-do3dq
      @MarcoCaprini-do3dq 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@Tattvadarzin.The pronunciation that is used in the video is the Classical one, while the one that is taught in schools is the Ecclesiastival/Medieval pronunciation

  • @ryanevation
    @ryanevation ปีที่แล้ว +6

    There's a famous Irish Celtic legend about a hero named Setanta, there are various sports clubs and venues named after it. Way too close for coincidence I think.

  • @thewhaleking
    @thewhaleking หลายเดือนก่อน

    You say there's little known about the tribes up north in Scotland but I think u managed to decode these mysteries to the best of ur abilities :) That talent is crazy insane

  • @yamsdev
    @yamsdev ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd be fascinated to see a video on the Nothern Isles. I found one of your videos last night and I've been HOOKED.

  • @myownprivatejoke
    @myownprivatejoke 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gave you a like as soon as you mentioned where you would personally put the line for northern britain. Sending love and appreciation from Scotland.

  • @LiamCoombes-u7q
    @LiamCoombes-u7q ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brigante meaning high dwellers of elevation. Similar to the -Comb, -Camb, -Cumb which comes from Brithonic for valley but was used later to denote those who would take the best land at lower elevation.

  • @ImAMassiveBender
    @ImAMassiveBender ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another block rockin banger of a video. I'd be interested in a more indepth rise and fall of Votadini/gododdin

  • @StringerThingsArt
    @StringerThingsArt 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would love to hear about any celtic pre-roman folk, religious, cultural stuff and what influences might have brought these about. If that's even possible! Fab video :)

  • @jamesgrewar461
    @jamesgrewar461 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    An in depth of the tribes Scotland would be useful

  • @Bubyed76
    @Bubyed76 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant stuff again. So interesting. Thank you for your hard work.

  • @sarahmarks6743
    @sarahmarks6743 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent , informative and entertaining. Keep up the great content👍

  • @meighan.leenetta
    @meighan.leenetta 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Descendent of scottish border reavers here to show my appreciation for the work you put into all of your videos.

  • @cronoros
    @cronoros ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Setanta is the given name of the Irish hero Cú Chulainn. I'm not going to directly suggest a link (nowhere near qualified on either side) but given the Setantii are on the western side of Britain,it's plausible the name is in some way linked to Ireland given the Irish influence further down the same coast in Wales.
    Cú Chulainns supposed birthplace (this is an oversomplifaction) is Dundalk which is also almost directly across the Irish Sea from Manchester

  • @EmmaMaySeven
    @EmmaMaySeven ปีที่แล้ว +16

    You got any more of that Parisii?
    (I grew up not far from Hull and it was always a wonder that there was an ancient link with Paris. (Also, ironically, the archaeological remains are called the "Arras culture", though that's accidental.))

    • @johnmckiernan2176
      @johnmckiernan2176 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well, Kingston Upon Hull is the Paris of the north, after all.

  • @gothicusmaximus5697
    @gothicusmaximus5697 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i wasnt expecting to see my small old mining town in this video, Vinovium is a roman fort like a mile from me rn

  • @SamButler22
    @SamButler22 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As someone from Lancashire, I'm so down for calling us The Reapers

    • @sethfrisbie3957
      @sethfrisbie3957 ปีที่แล้ว

      Here is a little secret about you English being most of you are the decedents of the Britons yet follow a Germanic culture and speak a Germanic language due to the Anglo-Saxons so in a way you are a decedent of the Reapers. Well the Anglo-Saxons did not kill most people after all the Britons would have revolted had the Anglo-Saxons treated them too horribly once their kingdoms and tribes were taken over by the Anglo-Saxons.

  • @Earandil536
    @Earandil536 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These are great, exceedingly well researched. Would love to see one of these on the post-Roman Brythonic kingdoms

    • @CambrianChronicles
      @CambrianChronicles  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you, I want to cover the Brythonic kingdoms like this someday

  • @facoulac
    @facoulac ปีที่แล้ว +1

    your videos always brighten up my day, thank you!

  • @NorvelCooksey
    @NorvelCooksey ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great job on your project. I live in the U.S.A. But it’s still my island.Thank you.

  • @tyrant-den884
    @tyrant-den884 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Herodotus thought it was too fantastical"
    That's gunna take me a while.

    • @markwynne725
      @markwynne725 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know. He was entirely fine with Bactrian ants the size of dogs chasing and killing travellers who tried to steal their gold, but some islands in the North West of Europe? That's crazy!

    • @CambrianChronicles
      @CambrianChronicles  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It really is a strange one, and proves how outlandish the idea seems, despite the centuries of trade with the area! If only the Phoenicians had been making the map instead

  • @gwynedd4023
    @gwynedd4023 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You are the single best person ever

  •  ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Setanta was a character from Irish mythological cycles. Maybe there's a connection there?

    • @andrewreynolds4949
      @andrewreynolds4949 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Considering there are other instances of settlement and conquest across the Irish Sea, I don’t think that’s unlikely

  • @imafackinjunglist
    @imafackinjunglist ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1:32 sounds like when a train arrives in wales.

  • @johnclements6852
    @johnclements6852 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Congratulations and thanks for your fascinating and educational videos. As far as languages like Pictish and Brythonic are concerned, are they completely extinct? Brythonic is (somewhat) related to Welsh isnt it? New subscriber (yesterday) thanks to TH-cam displaying your channel on its home page. Cheers from Christchurch NZ.

    • @CambrianChronicles
      @CambrianChronicles  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Brythonic survives in Welsh today, as well as the languages of Cornish and Breton
      Pictish, though, is extinct, although I believe some borrowed words made their way into Scots Gaelic

    • @Joanna-il2ur
      @Joanna-il2ur ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Pictish is completely extinct and vanished in the twelfth century. Very little was ever written down. The Picts wrote plenty, but all except a handful of short inscriptions is in Latin. The later Pictish Kings were Anglo Saxons. The name is not connected with paint, which in Latin is not Picti but Pincti. The meaning is probably from the same root as Welsh pett which means farm, and exists in English place names like Pettaugh and Petsworth. So the Picts were probably simply farmers.

    • @johnmckiernan2176
      @johnmckiernan2176 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Joanna-il2ur It's erroneous to state that the later Pictish Kings were Anglo Saxons. It's more accurate to say that their surviving records of royal dynasties were a remarkable mix of names suggesting massive cultural blending and intermarriage, with some notably Saxon names, some which are recognisably Gaelic and many of no known relation, and probably Pictish in etymology. Even to my modern Irish eyes the Gaelic ones jump out. Never heard that explanation of the origin of the word Pict, but it's noted that the Irish words Cruithne (Pict, singular) and Cruithní (Picts plural) do mean 'painted' or at least 'brightly coloured' and don't seem to have a Latin root or borrowing. I am led to believe that the Welsh word Prydeiniwr, which means a Briton, also has an etymological root related to pictures, painting or decoration, though since I don't speak Welsh or other Brythonic languages this might be hearsay. I suspect the label Pict might not describe an ethnic group per se, but rather a material culture or lifestyle since Cruithní speaking Gaelic are recorded in the Irish annals in what is now Northern Ireland, while others speaking a non-mutually intelligible tongue of probable Brythonic origin are recorded in Caledonia, with St. Columcille legendarily travelling to their capital (or one of multiple capitals) in Inverness to convert them...and meeting a certain lake-dwelling serpent on the way. I'm starting to think that if the 'Pict' label is related to decoration, it was more due to brightly coloured clothing or elaborate dress.

  • @ArcAudios77
    @ArcAudios77 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well put together, thanks Sir. Your location of the 'Antonine Wall' was slightly off to be frank about it - went through my Town. North Strathclyde - above Glasgow.
    Best wishes for you & your Channel are sent from Western Scotland.
    Regards.

  • @Hub3rtCumb3rdal3
    @Hub3rtCumb3rdal3 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kinda mind blowing that you worked out these borders from just under 2000 years ago based on a really wonky looking map of the UK with very rough territory markings for each of these tribes

  • @TheDandob1982
    @TheDandob1982 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Olicana is believed to be the Roman fort in Ilkley, West Yorkshire.

  • @talatq719
    @talatq719 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would you consider making a video at some point on the Gauls?

  • @SolFireYT
    @SolFireYT ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m glad I finally could set some time aside to enjoy this video properly

  • @ScotAshton
    @ScotAshton 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    much of my ancestry is Scottish --and NW English and some Irish--records have taken us back prior to 1000 ( and no I'm not Latter Day Saint Mormon--) records have been cross referenced and confirmed--this is quite informative--and Im grateful

  • @icecreamcancer
    @icecreamcancer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you for this, very interesting

  • @jonathaneffemey944
    @jonathaneffemey944 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for posting

  • @johnmorgan8868
    @johnmorgan8868 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this channel ❤

  • @eamonnclabby7067
    @eamonnclabby7067 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    He,s back....top notch...as always...peace and love from the Hiberno Norse peninsula of the wirral..😊😊

  • @matheoustargaryen
    @matheoustargaryen 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I REALLY love your content, you're very skilled at grabbing the attention of your audience, I'd love more Celtic and Welsh info from you. The video of the Forgotten Royal Title is most intriguing. I really thought in my own view that it meant, how do I explain this? Like I suppose when certain Monarchs over the Centuries, especially Louis the 14th said "I am France" or the Czarist Emperors of Russia, " I am Russia" geez this sounds like a bad villain I'm describing but perhaps it was an earned title of acclaim where select members of the population would announce "He is of the Country" if that makes sense? I don't know but for some reason I had a feeling it was a Royal Title of Acclimation in that vein of thought from almost the moment you gave us the definition of the title. Anyway, I need more! Please. Thank you for the quality as well.

  • @philt4346
    @philt4346 ปีที่แล้ว

    On the map at 3:30 between Guisborough and Whitby is the location Skalingdam. Now it's a reservoir called Scaling Dam.

  • @CaerlaverockJaguar
    @CaerlaverockJaguar 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Can you do videos about the origins of the Scottish clans? Like Clan Maxwell, tracing them back to their ancestral roots, such as Viking warriors or other peoples who may have lived there for centuries or other outsiders. It’d be interesting to see where these different people came from, as some may be descendants of some of the Caledonii, but also with Roman blood and Gaelic and Scandinavian.

    • @kimberlyvespa
      @kimberlyvespa 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m an American descendant from Clan Henderson of Fordell, Fife. Love this video. Very detailed.

  • @johncurtis142
    @johncurtis142 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another brilliant vid. Thank you sir.

  • @ethanzaar5682
    @ethanzaar5682 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please put more dates 🙌🙏

  • @grahamwalker2312
    @grahamwalker2312 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Was intrigued by your video and it's history of the north. Having watched with interest, I noted that a geological barrier to the kingdoms of the north was the southern Pennines. There were Roman centres on the River Wharfe and Ouse, but not the Rivers Calder and Aire within the Pennine Hills. Having lived in Halifax, West Yorkshire all my life, I came to learn that first records of the area date back to lands connected to the Norman Priory of Lewes. Remnants of a Roman road were discovered between Halifax and Denholme about 50 + years ago and further north the Aire Valley was part of an ancient drovers route from Carlisle to Doncaster. There is also the well preserved Roman road at Blackstone Edge to the south. It seems that other than these brief incursions through the southern Pennines little else was known about Calderdale prior to the 11th century. Any additional background would be appreciated.

  • @margaretwebster2516
    @margaretwebster2516 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There was a chariot burial at Ferry fryston, near Pontefract which is in the west of yorkshire

  • @napoleonfeanor
    @napoleonfeanor ปีที่แล้ว

    It's amazing that we even know the little we do.

  • @rachelrahman8984
    @rachelrahman8984 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very interesting. I was a bit thrown by mountains/hills being shown when talking about the fens. The fens were all water at the time and, when drained are flatter still. (am a fen girl x) Ely was represented well and still stands higher - having been an actual island.

  • @ornu01
    @ornu01 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Called Tacitus by the proper pronunciantion, instant subscription.

  • @Fatherofheroesandheroines
    @Fatherofheroesandheroines ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have aften wondered how Britains history would have gone without Rome. Its an interesting concept.

  • @isaacnorwood2555
    @isaacnorwood2555 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It would be interesting to hear about the kingdoms of ireland or any of the isles contemporary with these brythonic kingdoms (if we know anything about them). I would also really like to see a copy of the map with the borders for both the northern and southern kingdoms on, maybe as a downloadable image?
    Also, what made you choose the Homann map as a basemap? It is very visually striking

  • @austinmetro6317
    @austinmetro6317 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi . Very interesting video. Can you do a video on the Island of Ireland and its tribes/ kingdoms/ alliances? Thanks