The thing you’re forgetting is that when you do a bunch of trials, you get a chest at the end of your chimera run. That chest is essentially a freebie that you don’t have to wait until reset for 😁 giving you lots of goodies! I got a rank 3 basalt from mine and some gems
Hi. Could you add a Relic list on the HellHades page? Since for a while we won't have many relics could you add to the relics a recommendation for what champions is it better instead of adding recommended relics to all the champions? That way we can check they relics we got and see who should we put it on.
Thanks for the thoughts, looking forward to a web page on the Relics. I got myself a couple of rare and an epic relic I think. I even put some Relics on my champs already, not really sure if they actually work though 😂
The only non-ratr relic I've crafted is the Irethi Coronet, and I immediately put on my Trunda. I wish I had more materials to upgrade it, but I'm very excited to see what sort of increase I see in her damage output.
I think we can live with the 25%, but masteries shouldnt proc the reflect, and leech should heal before the reflect to prevent death. Also damage dealt when you die needs to count for trials
AI'm really in to the Relic Mechanic. Glad you did this video. Much thanks, Sapphyra!!!! Also, when you're talking about "Stacking", are you referring to the base statistics, or total statistics?
This video is what i needed. Deadwood jedi had a question you kinda answered… what should be the focus… So right now in my clan and my account(no marrius nor toshiro) i can do about 120m on NM with 3-4 trials. BUT! I can do 90m in brutal and complete 10 trials…. So i get both top chest and i focus on the trials on my brutal key.
I’d say to keep hitting brutal. I’ve been maxing brutal and hard and get 1 fragment on each chest and have already crafted 2 epic things. Gemstones are my problem right now, no triangle shaped ones.
I was wondering if you guys could add a feature to team optimizer to look for teams that do minimum damage for top reward I dont care about clash I just want to make a team to get top rewards from the boss
I've seen colred claiming that waiting on using the higher rarity ocular masses makes zero difference, as they adjusted probability accordingly. can you confirm on the math?
I didn't do a full breakdown but I did some quick mental maths when he said that and I don't think that's true, but a full math breakdown would be good to see, I don't have the forging materials to even pull the %s otherwise I would do it for myself and my clan cluster.
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i do think it is worth chasing trials if your damage wouldn't be good enough to get the good clash chests - people who can only hit NM and Brutal for example, no point getting 100m on brutal when you could get 50m, get the chest, and some extra trials
I did 15 + 14 trials and top chested everything with 4.7B point's. Currently at 8 relics and 16 red + 70 legendary materials waiting. Kinda stupid to put so much effort and still getting mediocre relics while some clan mates already have Chronocube on odin and Aspect on rothos. The huge problem is getting 3* basalt, even if you get the best chest, it's still not guaranteed which is stupid.
The problem I am now seeing is when they introduce mythical materials in other areas of the game. aren't the trials then valued EVEN LESS. like i know they contribute to clash points so yes we want to do them. But if i can get mythical materials from other trials and clash isn't a priority or we're already scoring high. Why on earth would I engage with the trials
Do you or anyone know why my Sena is targeted by Lion form at the start of the round. I’m trying to use her as my only reviver, but lion kills her as soon as it starts ending my round. I see all these people running 1 reviver, so why/who is Lion targeting with his opening attack?
The higher the difficulty the higher the specific damage is for trials. I don’t have some normal things in my Chinera team and only get to do like 6 or 7 trials. I have to see who could come into my team to get the number up. Currently I am doing brutal top chest and nightmare second top chest.
10:00 chances to get legendary relic IS chance on screen (roll) MULTIPLY on number of attempts did you take into account that 25%x4 gives you higher chance on ONE attempt and 25%x1+25%x3(epics) gives you FOUR attempts with lower chance????
good video but i think your underplay malefic talon, a bit. Irethi Coronet is only for champions who place debuffs. Your are not going to have alot of stormcallers for a long time, making gorecrescent and Scroll of the the unseen the only other options beside malefic talon. So unless you want less champions with relics, some should get the malefic talon, because it is more accesible. So in the end i think it is quite important to hold on to a good handfull of those.
@HHGamingNetwork IDK what I said wasn't true, I didn't say it isn't good on the right champ. Ofc it is. But that is a limited pool of Champs. Like you said, the Wrath Champs.
you counter the ram reflect dmg with leech, then warmaster on supports etc is no problem. people dont understand that leech on ram is as crucial as block skill on viper
Yeah, even with leech up you find yourself killing yourself. At least I am. Or im so low on ho so when he transform to ultimate form he wipes 2-3 of my champs and can be a struggle to get back
@@olaf420iq4 this post is about supports, healing around 8-10k from war master procs is how you keep supports alive vs ram with zero effort. Your dps will always die vs ram
I like the idea of relics, but what I don't like is that you can't see from the champion thumbnail who has what equipped or if they even have a relic equipped at all. This is going to be a major pain in arena and especially siege when people start getting the more powerful relics. You'll waste a key or attack scroll because you had no idea which champions even have a relic. At least put a symbol on the thumbnail indicating they have a relic equipped, doesn't even have to reveal what specific relic it is.
I don't get why you are so focused on the damage number of your team and not on the trials. As long as your clan gets the double chest and you can get the top chest, your damage numbers are irrelevant. Then all thats important is your clash damage. If you can the same or close to the same clash damage with more trials completed, then completing more trials is the way to go. Even if you don't get the same "raw" damage from your team. Sure the rewards for the trials and the clash should be better.
4x Epic materials isn't worth it, still less than 50% chance for an epic relic. You're better off mixing to increase the likelihood of pulling higher rarity with the rare materials
What is the break point then only one increases from 15 to 19% and 2 are in the mid twenties or so? I can’t get my head around what is the best thing to do.
IMO it is wrong advice since atm talon has more value than gems and other relics apart of Irethi coronet AND ultimate chest gives you less material to craft the talon please count a NUMBER of CRAFTs with low trials ultimate chest and high trials and master chest
Well... I can only beat Brutal... all in all if we win the clash, with some 3-400M Clash points I reach only the lowest chest... the rewards there are pretty crappy... compared to playing Raid for over 4 years now to reach the chest of 3.3B is something completely out of sight. Well, again... typical Plarium! And yet... no rewards for the 4th and 5th in the clash... it simply sucks.
PLS MAKE IT SO U CAN SORT BY MOST COMPLETED TRAILS IN THE TEAM OPTIMISER
its there :)
I've been sitting on my resources, waiting for this video. Top notch as always
Good work Saph!🎉
The thing you’re forgetting is that when you do a bunch of trials, you get a chest at the end of your chimera run. That chest is essentially a freebie that you don’t have to wait until reset for 😁 giving you lots of goodies! I got a rank 3 basalt from mine and some gems
Thanks for the video!!! Always very helpful and informational.
Hi. Could you add a Relic list on the HellHades page? Since for a while we won't have many relics could you add to the relics a recommendation for what champions is it better instead of adding recommended relics to all the champions?
That way we can check they relics we got and see who should we put it on.
Thanks for the thoughts, looking forward to a web page on the Relics. I got myself a couple of rare and an epic relic I think. I even put some Relics on my champs already, not really sure if they actually work though 😂
The only non-ratr relic I've crafted is the Irethi Coronet, and I immediately put on my Trunda. I wish I had more materials to upgrade it, but I'm very excited to see what sort of increase I see in her damage output.
So if you use Ninja and he dies, does it reset his damage multiplier?
Love the boss, ram form needs toning down to 5 or 10% reflect, and need more crafting mats but boss is good fun
I think we can live with the 25%, but masteries shouldnt proc the reflect, and leech should heal before the reflect to prevent death. Also damage dealt when you die needs to count for trials
Not sure why but my gnut survive sometimes when using a3 on ram
@@AD-qv1pu do you have leech?
@@AD-qv1pu Gnut's A3 heals him, so if he doesn't get 1 shot by his max hp (no dec def and weaken), he'll heal himself up to full
I diagree, trials are second best priority after reach max dmg from chest.
top unm chest is pretty much unachievable for the most of players^^
also I should be prioritizing Marius missions atm XD
AI'm really in to the Relic Mechanic. Glad you did this video. Much thanks, Sapphyra!!!! Also, when you're talking about "Stacking", are you referring to the base statistics, or total statistics?
love coming back for christmas gifts and new game stuff and finding they decide to make the rewards not fun to get
Can you kindly do a list of the best rare relics to have. It's going to be forever before I get any higher tier ones.
This video is what i needed. Deadwood jedi had a question you kinda answered… what should be the focus…
So right now in my clan and my account(no marrius nor toshiro) i can do about 120m on NM with 3-4 trials. BUT! I can do 90m in brutal and complete 10 trials…. So i get both top chest and i focus on the trials on my brutal key.
I’d say to keep hitting brutal. I’ve been maxing brutal and hard and get 1 fragment on each chest and have already crafted 2 epic things. Gemstones are my problem right now, no triangle shaped ones.
I can do 8B in 3 keys so i use that 4th key on NM for as many trials so long as it doesnt hurt my clan!
@@HHGamingNetwork 3-4 keys? We only get 2? Sorry if I’m missing something
I was wondering if you guys could add a feature to team optimizer to look for teams that do minimum damage for top reward I dont care about clash I just want to make a team to get top rewards from the boss
I've seen colred claiming that waiting on using the higher rarity ocular masses makes zero difference, as they adjusted probability accordingly. can you confirm on the math?
I didn't do a full breakdown but I did some quick mental maths when he said that and I don't think that's true, but a full math breakdown would be good to see, I don't have the forging materials to even pull the %s otherwise I would do it for myself and my clan cluster.
Relic Is a good gift for a lot of player for finaly quit raid when the realize.good job raid.
Video request: A build for Blizaar the Howler that works for Hard Fire Knight and Sand Devil, without having to change up his gear. Will Faultless Defense work for both? Brimstone? Thank you for any help.
Ram form definitely needs to be adjusted with the reflect damage. Other than that it feels like great new content
If duel counts as a debuff, that would be great for ram duel tank
i do think it is worth chasing trials if your damage wouldn't be good enough to get the good clash chests - people who can only hit NM and Brutal for example, no point getting 100m on brutal when you could get 50m, get the chest, and some extra trials
Can you add a sort by most triels completed in the team optimizer
I did 15 + 14 trials and top chested everything with 4.7B point's. Currently at 8 relics and 16 red + 70 legendary materials waiting. Kinda stupid to put so much effort and still getting mediocre relics while some clan mates already have Chronocube on odin and Aspect on rothos. The huge problem is getting 3* basalt, even if you get the best chest, it's still not guaranteed which is stupid.
The problem I am now seeing is when they introduce mythical materials in other areas of the game. aren't the trials then valued EVEN LESS. like i know they contribute to clash points so yes we want to do them. But if i can get mythical materials from other trials and clash isn't a priority or we're already scoring high. Why on earth would I engage with the trials
I find the viper the most difficult head. I'm on nightmare and the viper wipes me as soon as it appears.
Do you or anyone know why my Sena is targeted by Lion form at the start of the round. I’m trying to use her as my only reviver, but lion kills her as soon as it starts ending my round.
I see all these people running 1 reviver, so why/who is Lion targeting with his opening attack?
It's given in the description, he targets the lowest crt damage I think. Have a defence champ with lesser crt DMG or increase senna's defence.
are we getting different bosses? my ram casts dual, and noone dies on my runs, and my shield damage required is only 100k. I get 16 trials per a run
The higher the difficulty the higher the specific damage is for trials. I don’t have some normal things in my Chinera team and only get to do like 6 or 7 trials. I have to see who could come into my team to get the number up. Currently I am doing brutal top chest and nightmare second top chest.
Its difficulty curve = it gets silly hard as it scales.
10:00 chances to get legendary relic IS chance on screen (roll) MULTIPLY on number of attempts
did you take into account that 25%x4 gives you higher chance on ONE attempt and 25%x1+25%x3(epics) gives you FOUR attempts with lower chance????
good video but i think your underplay malefic talon, a bit. Irethi Coronet is only for champions who place debuffs. Your are not going to have alot of stormcallers for a long time, making gorecrescent and Scroll of the the unseen the only other options beside malefic talon. So unless you want less champions with relics, some should get the malefic talon, because it is more accesible. So in the end i think it is quite important to hold on to a good handfull of those.
This is exactly what I was thinking.
I got three dupes of the same rare artifact on my first 4 crafts lol
"Id rather 30% consistent damage" the comet doesnt work unless the champ places debuffs though. Which not all nukers do.
No true - its like Wrath on the right champ its very valuable!
@HHGamingNetwork IDK what I said wasn't true, I didn't say it isn't good on the right champ. Ofc it is.
But that is a limited pool of Champs. Like you said, the Wrath Champs.
I would say the rewards are pretty underwhelming
Wow truly some high level insights! "hit the top chest for the most rewards" DAMN, i should have thought of that lmao
Well to be fair: Hydra top chest is far less valuable than Clash chests
you counter the ram reflect dmg with leech, then warmaster on supports etc is no problem. people dont understand that leech on ram is as crucial as block skill on viper
some champions deals 1 million per hit thats 250k reflected damage we will die before we get to heal
Yeah, even with leech up you find yourself killing yourself. At least I am. Or im so low on ho so when he transform to ultimate form he wipes 2-3 of my champs and can be a struggle to get back
@@olaf420iq4 this post is about supports, healing around 8-10k from war master procs is how you keep supports alive vs ram with zero effort. Your dps will always die vs ram
If you hit alot your support will not outheal the Warmaster damage.
@@HHGamingNetwork If you hit alot leech will have an even greater impact.
I like the idea of relics, but what I don't like is that you can't see from the champion thumbnail who has what equipped or if they even have a relic equipped at all. This is going to be a major pain in arena and especially siege when people start getting the more powerful relics. You'll waste a key or attack scroll because you had no idea which champions even have a relic. At least put a symbol on the thumbnail indicating they have a relic equipped, doesn't even have to reveal what specific relic it is.
I don't get why you are so focused on the damage number of your team and not on the trials. As long as your clan gets the double chest and you can get the top chest, your damage numbers are irrelevant. Then all thats important is your clash damage. If you can the same or close to the same clash damage with more trials completed, then completing more trials is the way to go. Even if you don't get the same "raw" damage from your team. Sure the rewards for the trials and the clash should be better.
4x Epic materials isn't worth it, still less than 50% chance for an epic relic. You're better off mixing to increase the likelihood of pulling higher rarity with the rare materials
What is the break point then only one increases from 15 to 19% and 2 are in the mid twenties or so? I can’t get my head around what is the best thing to do.
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IMO it is wrong advice since atm talon has more value than gems and other relics apart of Irethi coronet AND ultimate chest gives you less material to craft the talon
please count a NUMBER of CRAFTs with low trials ultimate chest and high trials and master chest
why are English people afraid of using "Z"? MAXIMIZE is actually how this is spelled btw.
Maximise is how it is spelt in English....I realise that Americans struggle with the concept but the language does not belong to you
Well... I can only beat Brutal... all in all if we win the clash, with some 3-400M Clash points I reach only the lowest chest... the rewards there are pretty crappy... compared to playing Raid for over 4 years now to reach the chest of 3.3B is something completely out of sight. Well, again... typical Plarium! And yet... no rewards for the 4th and 5th in the clash... it simply sucks.
It´s so much of a rocket science, you need a freaking PhD just for a stupid game.