No he did what was best for him at the time…. Let’s face it had he not did that when he did AEW would have took longer to be a viable option for talent either before they get to WWE or after they leave WWE… Indy wrestling is something but it’s not the caliber of AEW
In retrospect, leaving was a great choice. In AEW, his career has been rejuvenated and he has been free to be creative and find new depths to his character. That said, now that Vince is no longer the main one running the show, I do hope Jericho considers one final run in the WWE, as there are a lot of new talent I would love to see Jericho work with.
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@alphanerd7221 except for the fact that Jericho has said that he was making more in AEW than he ever made in WWE. Others have as well and that's working far less dates.
His NJPW matches were so unique, fun and felt important compared to his last matches in WWE, you could see his career get a huge boost because of his time there.
I agree with him completely, Jericho was by far the most entertaining guy on the roster during The List gimmick week in and week out for a long time. To have essentially nothing come of it was a real slap in the face, especially to a veteran on their way out seeking a final championship run.
Jericho has a point here. Granted, he and Kevin Owens doesn't scream Wrestlemania headliner, but this wasn't the best card. Undertaker had no business closing the show that year and Roman Reigns wasn't anywhere near being accepted as a top guy. The build (and match) for Orton and Bray wasn't very good & Brock/Goldberg didn't need a title attached to it. To me, the top 2 matches on this card were Jericho/Owens and Triple/Seth, with the main event being a toss up between those two.
Agree with you but I think the WWE title match should of been the main event since randy won the rumble. Triple H and seth was a good story but not as promoted due to its position on the card taker vs roman should of never been the main event don't get me wrong I'm a undertaker fan you could tell he was at that point where he slow and looked injured undertaker was slowly declining until his retirement match. 2018-19 where his worst years yet
@@Daniel-Rain-YT2 out of shape boring wrestlers ? I guess you can say they’re out of shape but they’re not boring by any means. Both great in ring performers and great on the mic and have a lot of charisma. Not sure if you’re trolling.
Jericho is right, but at the same time Vince making the decision was solely based off him not liking Kevin owens. He didn’t think he was ready for a big wrestlemania title match, and he also thought he was very out of shape. I personally think it would have been a great match, but like Chris said, it was his company at the end of the day.
I don't like Kevin Owens either. He went to management and complained about wrestlers not wearing facemasks during Covid. Maybe that's how they do it in Canada, but here in America, we're supposed to be better than that. That's a rat move.
well joke on him because Kevin Owens is 2x Wrestlemania main eventer where one match was against a returning Stone Cold at WM 38 night 1 main event and another match was the epic tag team at WM 39 night 1 main event where he and Sami against the Usos thus after a long time they got a 5 star match at WM.
This is what makes a legend. Jericho is not a demanding guy. He's not on this interview trashing anybody He just knows his value. He knows what stimulates him professionally. He didn't think the company was in his best interest for his brand anymore and he amicably left to go and do new creative things.
Chris is one of the most talented Wrestler ever exist. His finishing move and some of his signature are so unique and no other Wrestler never done it like he does..
Now that you mention it, can anyone name ANY other wrestler who has used the Boston Crab as a finisher, EVER? Several different wrestlers have used variants of the Figure 4 or the Sharpshooter/Scorpion Deathlock or the Camel Clutch, but I can't think of anyone other than Jericho who has ever used the move he calls the Walls of Jericho (or when he's in a really bad mood, the Lion Tamer).
It WAS Rick Martels finisher, good memory. And the lion tamer/walls of Jericho used to be a bit different than a Boston crab, he would put his knee into their neck and bend them in two...it looked vicious. Much better than that breakdown thing or that pu$$y spinning back elbow thing he does now.
@@rasheed9705 Yeah, well the thing with the Lion Tamer is that only certain guys of a certain size and flexibility can take it. That's why it basically gets saved for special occasions. He could put Rey Mysterio or Darby Allin in it easily, but he couldn't do it to someone like, say, the Undertaker or Killswitch/Luchasaurus because they're just too big,
I know how that goes. Even outside of professional wrestling, they'll say one thing and do another and that shit gets annoying. You end up just saying fuck it, do whatever you're going to do and I'll do whatever I'm going to do and move on.
FORCED? I didn't hear that word said the entire 3:37. Jericho is on the Mt Rushmore of ALL WRESTLING! Also have been on the JERICRUISE!!! Wrestling Fans should get on that cruise. Most fun ever......
The reason that match didn’t main event Wrestlemania is because it wasn’t a big money match, I’m pretty sure Jericho knows this but he want admit it. Jericho is just mad that he didn’t get to main event which is understandable... If Vince actually did tell him that him and KO were going to main event.
Looking at if from a different pov: he was in his late 40s and past his prime. Of course he wasn’t a priority in WWE anymore, WWE had to rejuvenate (and still does). Whereas in AEW, he was the biggest name and main attraction on the roster. And he reinvented and rejuvenated himself. In the end, he won.
@@deistormmods It’s not like WWE didn’t use old guys, but they were marketed as bigger attractions. Goldberg was a marquee attraction that was gone for 15 years, whereas Jericho was always around. Jericho was expendable, Goldberg was not.
You know, I’m starting to think that Chris Jericho is one of the WWE’s most underrated superstars. Ever. Remember when Raw & Smackdown split into 2 separate brands in 2002? And Triple H had an ironclad grip on the World Heavyweight Championship for what seemed like forever? When I look back on that era, I find myself feeling disappointed that WWE didn’t let Y2J pry it out of Triple H’s grip. If anyone deserved a shot at it, it was Chris Jericho.
I read Jericho's first book (Around the world in spandex) years ago at the library when my kid was researching stuff for school. It's actually darn entertaining and his exploits from Japan to joining WWE is must-read for anyone going overseas to wrestle professionally. At a young age he was already globe trotting making money thru wrestling.
Once you run your time. Like he said, he done everything. That means there’s nowhere else to go. Vince moves on. This is just business. Successful businesses, the ceo makes tough decisions. Ruthless decisions. It’s not like dude hasn’t been a made man from Vince. Even Bret heart understands that.
Vince always has to ruin things, because he likes all those old big names. He ruined a huge match because he thought Batista could bring in the fans. It reminds me of when these two were feuding, can't remember who, but it was going well and they wanted to end things in Hell in a Cell. When they pitched the idea to Vince, he rejected the Hell in a Cell match because they have a PPV dedicated to that match and he didn't want to deviate from it.
Batista can bring in fans. It's just that the guy was arguably one of the worst booked main eventers in Wrestlemania history going into WM30. He didn't like the booking one bit and cut what was supposed to be a longer come back short. One that was apparently supposed to last anywhere between Summer Slam and Wrestlemania 31. He saw the writing on the wall and cut bait and the timing couldn't have been more perfect as he was boarding the MCU train just as it was picking up steam.
99 times out of 100 I would agree with making Brock vs Goldberg the Main Event. But given the situations, relative to the performers involved in these two possible bouts, I might disagree. And let's face it. Putting Jericho vs Owens on second was plain stupid.
Especially when you consider what they put on _first_ in their place- AJ Styles vs _Shane McMahon_ facing each other in the culmination of a fairly nothing feud with nothing on the line. Even if Jericho and Owens weren't going to face each other for the Universal Championship in the main event, them blowing off their heated rivalry in a match over Jericho's US Championship should still have taken precendence over _that!_
Truthfully, I'm a fan of both Lesnar and Goldberg but, I think making their match the main event was a huge mistake. Frankly, their storyline was chewed meet. Been there done that. I would have much rather seen Jericho and Owens in the main event.
Always thought that slot at Wrestlemania was a weird choice considering how over Jericho and Owens were - both of them in my opinion were carrying Raw each week. Getting main event might be a little ambitious, but I definitely think that match should have been way further up the bill. Can see why that would be insulting and frustrating during one of the best runs of your career
Shame Mania wasn't two nights back then, like it is now. Jericho and Owens could have had the emotional 'main event' of night 1 similar to how Zayn and Owens vs Usos did this year.
Chris is One of the most consistant talented wrestlers ever like Randy Orton. They deserved so much more. Chris unlike Randy never had the size which is all that Vince use to care about.
Brock Lesnar is a guy you have to make serious concessions for or you won't get him. The part time schedule, letting him end the streak, putting a world belt on him as a part timer, pushing him continuously as a part timer, paying him huge amounts of money. Goldberg had his run and bringing these guys back was ALWAYS an insult to the full time guys who busted their tails ALL year long. It's called loyalty and if you don't show it to guys that have shown it to you then you don't deserve it. All you become is a guy that you say to "show me the money" or "I will walk." For enough money you can get anyone to come back, CM Punk for instance. Jericho could perform. Goldberg could not, Lesnar had the presentation and persona. The one thing they can never take away from Jericho like they took the streak away from the Undertaker was getting the spot of being the first undisputed champ when he won both world belts. Lesnar, for a guy they pushed so much as the "Next Big Thing" and putting him over a Hollywood bound Rock (Dwayne Johnson) and he gave that up to fail at trying out for the NFL and then ended up in UFC, he quit folks, no loyalty there, and in Vince McMahon it is always just looking to make money fast in an industry that lacks stars. So you step on and over others and throw Lesnar in there. Oh and he needs Heyman as a mouthpiece too. Be your own man, with your own legacy. When someone cheapens it walk away because it no longer is how far you yourself can go but how far someone will let you go. Rule 1 in wrestling, Vince McMahon is NOT always right. Just only always rich.
That year and all the work that Jericho and ko had put into it was booked ahead of time and with all his hard work he did on that amazing storyline was amazing and WWE dropped the ball on that one for my guy Jericho def thought for months it was gonna be ko vs Jericho in co kain event or main event i totally agree with jericho no doubt he was done wrong
I think Jericho wasn't mistaken about what the placement meant. But, that said the business itself sells way more tickets with two wrestlers who really drive fan's excitement level to a frenzy. Vince had that with both Lesner and Goldberg. Sorry not sorry to Jericho, but your persona, and fan reception was good, but not that good. Regarding whether Jericho should have left WWE. That's something that includes a lot more factors than just a simple 'his ego was too big to stay' judgement... Moving away from a job that risks your long term health, is one very important consideration. Do you want to be able to move around and take care of things/yourself when you're really old? Many professionals in sports do, very often have to deal with a lot of health issues in old age. That's just one example of a consideration beyond just an ego thing, or 'I have went as far as I can in this business' consideration. So really, who's to judge Jericho on it? I do think that leaving as he did, and returning in the music entertainment industry wasn't a bad move. I like the music I have heard from Fozzy. The name itself has so much potential for presentation, rebranding as needed. It shows that Jericho has a good head about promoting a brand. The fact that he said in that interview, it's Vince's business and he can do whatever he wants with it... Shows that he understood the importance of showcasing matches to promote ticket sales... TBH, I don't think it was about ego, or a lack of understanding how things work over in WWE. Gaining reception from your target market... Which applies not only to wrestling entertainment, but really all industries... Very often, data collection gets delayed for various reasons... Which is probably why Vince changed it the week before... Because that data was taking forever to come through. So really, when taking the history into perspective. Jericho knew he had a good act, lots of fans, etc... But when you realize that, your presence got shoved into the background in favor of a bigger showstopper feature... It tells you that, you may have reached the zenith you're going to ever get to, at the place you're at. And what wasn't discussed in the interview that I heard, is that in professional wrestling... How much money you make, depends HEAVILY on how much you sell tickets with your act. So from a 'how much money can I make' perspective... Being at a zenith that likely won't rise beyond a second string act... Is a big consideration when deciding to stay or go. As I said earlier... Who is anyone to judge this? My OPINION is that I think Jericho went in the right direction with leaving WWE for a different venture. Jericho has always been a wrestler I liked, not necessarily my favorite. But he certainly has my respect.
Well u got a point... however Jericho came in fully trained & ready... thanks to the awesomeness of that WCW midcard! All Vince had to do was put Him to work with Rock, Austin & the Game... and he delivered!
@yellowsky99 sure he wasn't considered a superstar in WCW, but he was really over with the fans and the only reason for him being held back was the backstage bs over there keeping everyone but nwo and their rivals from the top spots. He was more than good enough to be a top guy in WCW but they held him down. That's why he went over when his contract expired lol
Him and KO got the same treatment that Punk got back in 2013. That was history repeating itself. The Rock and John Cena feud in 2012 that carried over into 2013 didn't need a part 2 and the match didn't need the WWE title but The Rock convinced Vince to let him win it so him and John Cena could fight for it at WrestleMania. They screwed Punk out of his main event at WrestleMania. Same like they did with Jericho and KO. Brock and Goldberg didn't need the belt for they match like Rock and Cena didn't need the belt for theirs. It was about to happen to Cody until the fans hijacked WWE and we all know if they didn't and The Rock would've went on to face Roman at WrestleMania somehow the title would've made its way in the picture too. Everything we seeing with The Rock and Cody now had to happen because majority of the fans didn't wanna see The Rock vs Roman they wanted to see Cody finish his story. So WWE had to go another way because the fans hijacked every WWE show, social media and Triple H and The Rock's twitter and IG comment section
There were about 60-70 contracted wrestlers who would have died to have match 2 at Mania. That being said… at worst… Owens v Jericho should have been one of the last 3 matches. It was the best angle going at the time.
@@mr.awesome6011 any spot on the card is a good spot. Did Taker bitch because his matches weren’t the main event every year? He had like 3 out of 24. Not a moan.
The roster is really stack right now which is the issue. You got a place with a lot of big names, whats the chance of you even being up there? Bloodline and Judgement day are the main focus right now. You got Aj styles and Orton returning. CM punk is back you know hes gonna be main eventing or else he will cause issues. Everything else is just there to kill time. Christ isn't even on brocks level or even edge where if he did come back they will invest everything into him like that. Kinda like Kofi sadly, there was a time where he was really over and that time has passed.
Kind of ridiculous that Jericho thinks being 2nd match on the card is beneath him. If only he had a mindset to contribute to the whole show being epic, not just the opening and finale. Love Jericho but his logic is nonsensical here.
He didn't mentioned it here, but in some other interview he mentioned that Vince wasn't really happy with their WrestleMania performance and he mostly blamed Kevin for it. He said that being put in 2nd match on card, and combined with the fact that the storyline he and KO worked so hard for months, only to no avail, plus being replaced by a part timer and someone who showed up after like 10 years for the main event was the main reason why he left WWE for NJPW
the issue isnt that he was given a 2nd match on the card. it that he was dangle a top spot and than took it away from him a week later. it similar to if u won 100m lottery and they be like nop, heres 1000, take it or leave it. u still up 1000 dollars but knowing u couldve had 100m would make u feel a certain way. and on top of that, the guy that won the 100m hasnt bought a lottery ticket in the past 10 years if u know what i mean.
He quite literally proved it was beneath him. If Vince books that match even third to last wrestling may be very very different. Omega Jericho changed everything
I swear in light of events over the last few years with Vince, the man really did want to destroy his company before he died so nobody else could have it. The booking over the last decade is proof of this.
Talk about being a mark. I'm sorry, but there is no universe where Chris Jericho vs Kevin Owens main events the same card that has Brock Lesnar vs Goldberg, Seth Rollins vs Triple H or Undertaker vs Roman Reigns on it.
True reasons: 1. Tony payed him a stupid amount of money for far less dates 2. He can do whatever he wants with a spineless boss 3. He can still put on the facade of being a top guy even though hes in the WORST shape of his life.
They definitely earned the main event with that build but to be fair Vince was right because the match was pretty underwhelming. Also Goldberg and Brock was a really fun match considering most fans weren’t expecting much. But let’s not forget the undertaker and Roman were awful closing that show
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No he did what was best for him at the time…. Let’s face it had he not did that when he did AEW would have took longer to be a viable option for talent either before they get to WWE or after they leave WWE… Indy wrestling is something but it’s not the caliber of AEW
No wwe is fkn garbage
Can’t even name you 1 fkn wrestler in wwe anymore
It was beneath him.
In retrospect, leaving was a great choice. In AEW, his career has been rejuvenated and he has been free to be creative and find new depths to his character.
That said, now that Vince is no longer the main one running the show, I do hope Jericho considers one final run in the WWE, as there are a lot of new talent I would love to see Jericho work with.
Chris Jericho has done so much in the wrestling business brilliant wrestler brilliant on a mic just a brilliant superstar.
Yet now he's out of shape and wrestlers awful matches only against his friends lol
And does things to woman that get swept under the carpet
@@aoxiv9i851 You were there?
Man I was pissed af at that moment. Jericho & owen's story carried raw that year. Jericho's list of jericho was the only thing that was fun.
The list Jericho with Owens was the best. They ran the show. Some of the funniest work he has ever done. Pure entertainment 😂
He made the right move knowing what's best for him and his self worth. Good on him.
Money. He did it for money.
@@MorrisseyMuse Well just as what any wrestler would do.
Dude is a 9 time IC champ and the first ever undisputed champion. He definitely deserved better than 2nd.
Jericho has done everything on WWE like he had a Hall Of Fame career. If Jericho ever does retired he should go to the HOF in my opinion
Ultimate HOF
Jericho is telling the truth, but omitting something else. He's omitting that Tony Khan is paying him a shitload of money to do what Jericho desires.
I bet WWE has paid him a shitload of money as well.
All this BS about AEW must be paying top guys way more than WWE is baseless.
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@@alphanerd7221top talent at AEW make more than mid card WWE guys and are probably on par with some of the top WWE talent in terms of pay
@alphanerd7221 except for the fact that Jericho has said that he was making more in AEW than he ever made in WWE. Others have as well and that's working far less dates.
Congrats Vince, You just made the list.
The latter of Jerichos AEW run has fell short of expectations but god damn was that initial run incredible. Some of the best stuff of Jerichos career.
God didn't curse him
tbf, Chris is old by wrestling standards now.
His NJPW matches were so unique, fun and felt important compared to his last matches in WWE, you could see his career get a huge boost because of his time there.
I agree with him completely, Jericho was by far the most entertaining guy on the roster during The List gimmick week in and week out for a long time. To have essentially nothing come of it was a real slap in the face, especially to a veteran on their way out seeking a final championship run.
Jericho has a point here. Granted, he and Kevin Owens doesn't scream Wrestlemania headliner, but this wasn't the best card. Undertaker had no business closing the show that year and Roman Reigns wasn't anywhere near being accepted as a top guy. The build (and match) for Orton and Bray wasn't very good & Brock/Goldberg didn't need a title attached to it. To me, the top 2 matches on this card were Jericho/Owens and Triple/Seth, with the main event being a toss up between those two.
Yeah. That's for WrestleMania 33.
Wow, low standards much? your top match is between 2 out of shape boring wrestlers and Triple H/Seth.
@@Daniel-Rain-YT yep.
Agree with you but I think the WWE title match should of been the main event since randy won the rumble. Triple H and seth was a good story but not as promoted due to its position on the card taker vs roman should of never been the main event don't get me wrong I'm a undertaker fan you could tell he was at that point where he slow and looked injured undertaker was slowly declining until his retirement match. 2018-19 where his worst years yet
@@Daniel-Rain-YT2 out of shape boring wrestlers ? I guess you can say they’re out of shape but they’re not boring by any means. Both great in ring performers and great on the mic and have a lot of charisma. Not sure if you’re trolling.
Jericho is right, but at the same time Vince making the decision was solely based off him not liking Kevin owens. He didn’t think he was ready for a big wrestlemania title match, and he also thought he was very out of shape. I personally think it would have been a great match, but like Chris said, it was his company at the end of the day.
I don't like Kevin Owens either. He went to management and complained about wrestlers not wearing facemasks during Covid. Maybe that's how they do it in Canada, but here in America, we're supposed to be better than that. That's a rat move.
well joke on him because Kevin Owens is 2x Wrestlemania main eventer where one match was against a returning
Stone Cold at WM 38 night 1 main event and another match was the epic tag team at WM 39 night 1 main event
where he and Sami against the Usos thus after a long time they got a 5 star match at WM.
@@hatchetmouth8211if you don't like Kevin Owens, you aren't a real wrestling fan. Go away.
@@hatchetmouth8211America no better lol
Yes and Vince was right cuz Owens is out of shape garbage.
Would've loved to have seen Jericho as a Baby Face Champion. I might've actually continued to watch.
Makes sense. Absolutely respectful.
This is what makes a legend. Jericho is not a demanding guy. He's not on this interview trashing anybody He just knows his value. He knows what stimulates him professionally. He didn't think the company was in his best interest for his brand anymore and he amicably left to go and do new creative things.
His wife was also attacking the capitol on Jan 6.
@@AtillatheFunand how does that have anything to do with what he felt his effort was worth back in 2018?
I love Jericho. He is one of the best ever. He is great on the mic. His heel work is spot on. He is cool as hell
@@AtillatheFunyour intelligence only goes as far as your tv screen
@@cantprocesshe was a ego maniac to workplace bullying
I just remember him laying in the corner of a few royal rumbles when he was older.
i remember those matches also
The list of jericho will always be iconic
We love you Jericho we always with you and support you.
I LOVED that KO-Jericho best friends story!
Chris is one of the most talented Wrestler ever exist. His finishing move and some of his signature are so unique and no other Wrestler never done it like he does..
Now that you mention it, can anyone name ANY other wrestler who has used the Boston Crab as a finisher, EVER? Several different wrestlers have used variants of the Figure 4 or the Sharpshooter/Scorpion Deathlock or the Camel Clutch, but I can't think of anyone other than Jericho who has ever used the move he calls the Walls of Jericho (or when he's in a really bad mood, the Lion Tamer).
@ArcaneAzmadi I think it was the Model Rick Martel's finisher
It WAS Rick Martels finisher, good memory.
And the lion tamer/walls of Jericho used to be a bit different than a Boston crab, he would put his knee into their neck and bend them in two...it looked vicious. Much better than that breakdown thing or that pu$$y spinning back elbow thing he does now.
the lion-tamer was way cooler than the walls of Jericho.. A glorified Boston crab.
@@rasheed9705 Yeah, well the thing with the Lion Tamer is that only certain guys of a certain size and flexibility can take it. That's why it basically gets saved for special occasions. He could put Rey Mysterio or Darby Allin in it easily, but he couldn't do it to someone like, say, the Undertaker or Killswitch/Luchasaurus because they're just too big,
I know how that goes. Even outside of professional wrestling, they'll say one thing and do another and that shit gets annoying. You end up just saying fuck it, do whatever you're going to do and I'll do whatever I'm going to do and move on.
Chris is a good interview. Truly an intelligent person.
He wasn't happy about being booked wrong he understanded that he won't be the world champion there they wanted him to Job out
FORCED? I didn't hear that word said the entire 3:37. Jericho is on the Mt Rushmore of ALL WRESTLING! Also have been on the JERICRUISE!!! Wrestling Fans should get on that cruise. Most fun ever......
Capitalizing random words doesn't make it so.
Vince i'm glad that whatever's happening to you is really happening...you deserve every thing
2:48 TRUTH BOMB! I've always felt that, and all these years I thought I was the odd one.
The reason that match didn’t main event Wrestlemania is because it wasn’t a big money match, I’m pretty sure Jericho knows this but he want admit it. Jericho is just mad that he didn’t get to main event which is understandable... If Vince actually did tell him that him and KO were going to main event.
I enjoy his wrestling his music his interviews Jericho is a Jack of all trades and talent. Seems like cool guy too.
Please, he sucks as a wrestler and at singing. 😂
Not going to lie, but Jericho in TNA mid 2000's would have been amazing mate!
Looking at if from a different pov: he was in his late 40s and past his prime. Of course he wasn’t a priority in WWE anymore, WWE had to rejuvenate (and still does). Whereas in AEW, he was the biggest name and main attraction on the roster. And he reinvented and rejuvenated himself. In the end, he won.
Goldberg ring a bell?
@@deistormmods It’s not like WWE didn’t use old guys, but they were marketed as bigger attractions. Goldberg was a marquee attraction that was gone for 15 years, whereas Jericho was always around. Jericho was expendable, Goldberg was not.
Past his prime Jericho is still worth more than any two guys working at WWE right now.
Rejuvenate...... With the rock 🤣🤣🤣🤣 you dork
@@bobbybobstar1496 (and still does). reading skills, so important.
Bummed to see a clickbait title here. Love the videos but damn can we just not with clickbait? He wasn't FORCED, he made a decision to leave.
Yeah. I recall Jericho saying he asked Vince if he could leave to support AEW and Vince gave him the go ahead. He was definately not forced to leave.
You know, I’m starting to think that Chris Jericho is one of the WWE’s most underrated superstars. Ever. Remember when Raw & Smackdown split into 2 separate brands in 2002? And Triple H had an ironclad grip on the World Heavyweight Championship for what seemed like forever? When I look back on that era, I find myself feeling disappointed that WWE didn’t let Y2J pry it out of Triple H’s grip. If anyone deserved a shot at it, it was Chris Jericho.
Translation: Vince got every penny he could draw out of me then a money mark offered me millions of dollars
Correct
Basically
Not the first time when some part timers stole the main event from hard working people resulting in someone to leave the company, if you know
I read Jericho's first book (Around the world in spandex) years ago at the library when my kid was researching stuff for school. It's actually darn entertaining and his exploits from Japan to joining WWE is must-read for anyone going overseas to wrestle professionally. At a young age he was already globe trotting making money thru wrestling.
Where are your full videos? I want to watch in full not just clips
Once you run your time. Like he said, he done everything. That means there’s nowhere else to go. Vince moves on. This is just business. Successful businesses, the ceo makes tough decisions. Ruthless decisions. It’s not like dude hasn’t been a made man from Vince. Even Bret heart understands that.
Lol at the thumbnail! Jericho is just sitting there while Vince looks like Doomguy just picked up a BFG9000 LMAO!
Juiced up to his eyeballs
Best thing to ever happen in wrestling.. McMahons are gone for good! That family is disgusting
Crazy to think it could potentially be a different reason…
Vince always has to ruin things, because he likes all those old big names. He ruined a huge match because he thought Batista could bring in the fans. It reminds me of when these two were feuding, can't remember who, but it was going well and they wanted to end things in Hell in a Cell. When they pitched the idea to Vince, he rejected the Hell in a Cell match because they have a PPV dedicated to that match and he didn't want to deviate from it.
Vince has pumped the brakes on Asuka plenty of times. Even though she was getting so much fan support
Yeah, but imagine how much better Bryan's win was because of Vince's blunder and eventual course correction.
@@hatchetmouth8211imagine how mich better it would have been if he had won the Royal Rumble.
@@geoffreyprior8931 Yet hhh has thrown her under the bus a lot more
Batista can bring in fans. It's just that the guy was arguably one of the worst booked main eventers in Wrestlemania history going into WM30. He didn't like the booking one bit and cut what was supposed to be a longer come back short. One that was apparently supposed to last anywhere between Summer Slam and Wrestlemania 31. He saw the writing on the wall and cut bait and the timing couldn't have been more perfect as he was boarding the MCU train just as it was picking up steam.
The first year of AEW was really interresting and fun for me. Big part was Jericho's Inner Circle.
99 times out of 100 I would agree with making Brock vs Goldberg the Main Event. But given the situations, relative to the performers involved in these two possible bouts, I might disagree. And let's face it. Putting Jericho vs Owens on second was plain stupid.
Especially when you consider what they put on _first_ in their place- AJ Styles vs _Shane McMahon_ facing each other in the culmination of a fairly nothing feud with nothing on the line. Even if Jericho and Owens weren't going to face each other for the Universal Championship in the main event, them blowing off their heated rivalry in a match over Jericho's US Championship should still have taken precendence over _that!_
After their first matchAt Wrestlemania 20, Brock and Goldberg had no business being on a Wrestlemania together, even if the match pleased people.
Vince did a similar thing with his match against CM Punk(but this was done to annoy Punk, not Jericho) by booking Cena vs Rock as the main event.
Jericho is a star wherever he goes. Legend
Truthfully, I'm a fan of both Lesnar and Goldberg but, I think making their match the main event was a huge mistake. Frankly, their storyline was chewed meet. Been there done that. I would have much rather seen Jericho and Owens in the main event.
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Goldberg / Lesnar feud didn’t need a title or a main event. It was a spectacle by itself
@@ryanwebb5082 agreed. Still, it was a lot like watching reruns over and over again.
it was garbage@@ryanwebb5082
Always thought that slot at Wrestlemania was a weird choice considering how over Jericho and Owens were - both of them in my opinion were carrying Raw each week. Getting main event might be a little ambitious, but I definitely think that match should have been way further up the bill. Can see why that would be insulting and frustrating during one of the best runs of your career
He left cause he knew vince was gonna get caught
I love jerico n owens together
Seeing Vince in the thumbnail just makes me think of J.R saying “look at em, what a sick sadistic son’ofa bitch”
Shame Mania wasn't two nights back then, like it is now. Jericho and Owens could have had the emotional 'main event' of night 1 similar to how Zayn and Owens vs Usos did this year.
ratings plummeted because of you marks
@@lobsterbob2023You just made the list.
It shouldn't be two nights now...
That's beside the point.
Chris is One of the most consistant talented wrestlers ever like Randy Orton. They deserved so much more. Chris unlike Randy never had the size which is all that Vince use to care about.
Brock Lesnar is a guy you have to make serious concessions for or you won't get him. The part time schedule, letting him end the streak, putting a world belt on him as a part timer, pushing him continuously as a part timer, paying him huge amounts of money. Goldberg had his run and bringing these guys back was ALWAYS an insult to the full time guys who busted their tails ALL year long. It's called loyalty and if you don't show it to guys that have shown it to you then you don't deserve it. All you become is a guy that you say to "show me the money" or "I will walk." For enough money you can get anyone to come back, CM Punk for instance. Jericho could perform. Goldberg could not, Lesnar had the presentation and persona. The one thing they can never take away from Jericho like they took the streak away from the Undertaker was getting the spot of being the first undisputed champ when he won both world belts. Lesnar, for a guy they pushed so much as the "Next Big Thing" and putting him over a Hollywood bound Rock (Dwayne Johnson) and he gave that up to fail at trying out for the NFL and then ended up in UFC, he quit folks, no loyalty there, and in Vince McMahon it is always just looking to make money fast in an industry that lacks stars. So you step on and over others and throw Lesnar in there. Oh and he needs Heyman as a mouthpiece too. Be your own man, with your own legacy. When someone cheapens it walk away because it no longer is how far you yourself can go but how far someone will let you go. Rule 1 in wrestling, Vince McMahon is NOT always right. Just only always rich.
AET Legend Chris Jericho. TONY KHAN gave a ton of money to join AEW... He made AEW big..
brother😭 u were wrestling at WRESTLEMANIA
I remember his last days. Funny story with pen n paper in hand saying U JUST MADE THE LIST
Since I was 10 always thought he was mid. Nothings changed
You're entitled to your wrong opinion
Even when Austin switched sides during the invasion, Jericho stayed true to the home team.
Yeah but his ego got in the way and almost costed his team the victory by attacking his own teammate
That's because the storyline was written that way.
2nd match is pretty much the worst spot on the card
For Vince to go from "This is a Title Match, main event!" to the worst possible spot is not great👺
And then publicly claim it was "possibly the worst match in wrestlemania history" on top of that
@patrickevans9604 really?
RAW IS JERICHO!!!!
That year and all the work that Jericho and ko had put into it was booked ahead of time and with all his hard work he did on that amazing storyline was amazing and WWE dropped the ball on that one for my guy Jericho def thought for months it was gonna be ko vs Jericho in co kain event or main event i totally agree with jericho no doubt he was done wrong
Yeah that was the start of Vince with his constant hard on for Brock Lesnar. Chris Jericho deserved better he's one of the greatest to ever do it.
Lmao, he's not even close. That's why he's in the minor leagues, wrestling in front of nobody.
I think Jericho wasn't mistaken about what the placement meant. But, that said the business itself sells way more tickets with two wrestlers who really drive fan's excitement level to a frenzy.
Vince had that with both Lesner and Goldberg. Sorry not sorry to Jericho, but your persona, and fan reception was good, but not that good.
Regarding whether Jericho should have left WWE. That's something that includes a lot more factors than just a simple 'his ego was too big to stay' judgement...
Moving away from a job that risks your long term health, is one very important consideration.
Do you want to be able to move around and take care of things/yourself when you're really old?
Many professionals in sports do, very often have to deal with a lot of health issues in old age.
That's just one example of a consideration beyond just an ego thing, or 'I have went as far as I can in this business' consideration.
So really, who's to judge Jericho on it?
I do think that leaving as he did, and returning in the music entertainment industry wasn't a bad move.
I like the music I have heard from Fozzy.
The name itself has so much potential for presentation, rebranding as needed.
It shows that Jericho has a good head about promoting a brand.
The fact that he said in that interview, it's Vince's business and he can do whatever he wants with it... Shows that he understood the importance of showcasing matches to promote ticket sales...
TBH, I don't think it was about ego, or a lack of understanding how things work over in WWE.
Gaining reception from your target market... Which applies not only to wrestling entertainment, but really all industries... Very often, data collection gets delayed for various reasons... Which is probably why Vince changed it the week before... Because that data was taking forever to come through.
So really, when taking the history into perspective. Jericho knew he had a good act, lots of fans, etc...
But when you realize that, your presence got shoved into the background in favor of a bigger showstopper feature...
It tells you that, you may have reached the zenith you're going to ever get to, at the place you're at.
And what wasn't discussed in the interview that I heard, is that in professional wrestling... How much money you make, depends HEAVILY on how much you sell tickets with your act.
So from a 'how much money can I make' perspective... Being at a zenith that likely won't rise beyond a second string act...
Is a big consideration when deciding to stay or go.
As I said earlier... Who is anyone to judge this?
My OPINION is that I think Jericho went in the right direction with leaving WWE for a different venture.
Jericho has always been a wrestler I liked, not necessarily my favorite.
But he certainly has my respect.
@@RobMatton-c8g ok that was random, weird and made no sense. But ok
Interesting
So just like with literally any pro wrestler ever. It's all about ego and being #1
Fast forward, and he's still never been a face workd champion
ROH
AEW
Heel
Chris left WWE not was fired or forced to leave WWE
where are hardy brothers jeff nd matt
Jericho was supposed to go to TNA as they hyped him up & showed his music video, but, suddenly, it was never mentioned again...
WWE made Jericho. He went from cruiserweight champion, to undisputed world champion. That's what put him on the map.
Well u got a point... however Jericho came in fully trained & ready... thanks to the awesomeness of that WCW midcard! All Vince had to do was put Him to work with Rock, Austin & the Game... and he delivered!
Sure but that doesn't mean teu should fuck him over.
No it wasn't. Dude was a massive draw in WCW before that lol.
@@patrickevans9604 not like wwe
@yellowsky99 sure he wasn't considered a superstar in WCW, but he was really over with the fans and the only reason for him being held back was the backstage bs over there keeping everyone but nwo and their rivals from the top spots. He was more than good enough to be a top guy in WCW but they held him down. That's why he went over when his contract expired lol
IT WAS HIS COMPANY CHRIS.....WAS ,HE GONE
Him and KO got the same treatment that Punk got back in 2013. That was history repeating itself. The Rock and John Cena feud in 2012 that carried over into 2013 didn't need a part 2 and the match didn't need the WWE title but The Rock convinced Vince to let him win it so him and John Cena could fight for it at WrestleMania. They screwed Punk out of his main event at WrestleMania. Same like they did with Jericho and KO. Brock and Goldberg didn't need the belt for they match like Rock and Cena didn't need the belt for theirs. It was about to happen to Cody until the fans hijacked WWE and we all know if they didn't and The Rock would've went on to face Roman at WrestleMania somehow the title would've made its way in the picture too. Everything we seeing with The Rock and Cody now had to happen because majority of the fans didn't wanna see The Rock vs Roman they wanted to see Cody finish his story. So WWE had to go another way because the fans hijacked every WWE show, social media and Triple H and The Rock's twitter and IG comment section
There were about 60-70 contracted wrestlers who would have died to have match 2 at Mania.
That being said… at worst… Owens v Jericho should have been one of the last 3 matches. It was the best angle going at the time.
But Jericho is a veteran who has main evented Wrestlemania. He deserves a good spot on the card if not the main event.
@@mr.awesome6011 any spot on the card is a good spot. Did Taker bitch because his matches weren’t the main event every year? He had like 3 out of 24. Not a moan.
You beat HHH as a baby face. HHH made Earl Hebner reverse the decision then fired him.
He wasn't a reigning champion. His title runs have all been Heel Jericho
I think Jericho would've been a great babyface world champion when he feuded with HHH in 2000.
That Brock vs Goldberg “main event” was lackluster anyway so I understand why Chris was pissed.
I don't blame him. Vince has made a long known habit of tanking good deserving talent over his favorites he wanted to go farther.
Goldberg literally came in and ruined so many great feuds and characters in a short amount of time
I would rather watch Goldberg v Lesnar over any Jericho match
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He can now comeback like Punk and ask to main event night one of WM. Hell!, they even let Sami Zayn main event it.
The roster is really stack right now which is the issue. You got a place with a lot of big names, whats the chance of you even being up there? Bloodline and Judgement day are the main focus right now. You got Aj styles and Orton returning. CM punk is back you know hes gonna be main eventing or else he will cause issues. Everything else is just there to kill time. Christ isn't even on brocks level or even edge where if he did come back they will invest everything into him like that. Kinda like Kofi sadly, there was a time where he was really over and that time has passed.
I don’t think the terrifier cameo was good
Kind of ridiculous that Jericho thinks being 2nd match on the card is beneath him. If only he had a mindset to contribute to the whole show being epic, not just the opening and finale. Love Jericho but his logic is nonsensical here.
He didn't mentioned it here, but in some other interview he mentioned that Vince wasn't really happy with their WrestleMania performance and he mostly blamed Kevin for it. He said that being put in 2nd match on card, and combined with the fact that the storyline he and KO worked so hard for months, only to no avail, plus being replaced by a part timer and someone who showed up after like 10 years for the main event was the main reason why he left WWE for NJPW
the issue isnt that he was given a 2nd match on the card. it that he was dangle a top spot and than took it away from him a week later. it similar to if u won 100m lottery and they be like nop, heres 1000, take it or leave it. u still up 1000 dollars but knowing u couldve had 100m would make u feel a certain way. and on top of that, the guy that won the 100m hasnt bought a lottery ticket in the past 10 years if u know what i mean.
Give me a break. Nothing he said was not true. Sometimes the truth is uncomfortable.
grow up you obviously can't comprehend english @@EvilGoatBoy
He quite literally proved it was beneath him. If Vince books that match even third to last wrestling may be very very different. Omega Jericho changed everything
Kevin Owens needs to come to AEW 💯
I swear in light of events over the last few years with Vince, the man really did want to destroy his company before he died so nobody else could have it. The booking over the last decade is proof of this.
That's not proof. And it was that way a lot longer than a decade. 😂😂😂
"I was forced" no you drama queen you left on your own accord.
Translation : AEW offered more Money 💰…You are welcome
He's capping. The real reason is Stephanie, like it is with over half of everything he does. He'll never get over it or over her. It's sad, really.
It's been over 3 years and Jericho's still talking about why he left WWE... yeah, he strongly misses WWE.
He’s absolutely right I still remember that great story
3:01 what a diva
He is not wrong
@@kzshrr he should be happy he was even on the WM card; yeah, Brock vs Goldberg is garbage but his match didn’t get completely cut.
He’ll never get past second match?! He main evened Wrestlemania 18 defending the world title against Triple H!
WWE. YOU JUST MADE THE LIST!
He would have made a great StarLord.
Jericho going to AEW is him giving back to the wrestling industry after he left WCW for WWE in 99.
Jerichos signature feud is against Chyna. Think about that.
Talk about being a mark. I'm sorry, but there is no universe where Chris Jericho vs Kevin Owens main events the same card that has Brock Lesnar vs Goldberg, Seth Rollins vs Triple H or Undertaker vs Roman Reigns on it.
True reasons:
1. Tony payed him a stupid amount of money for far less dates
2. He can do whatever he wants with a spineless boss
3. He can still put on the facade of being a top guy even though hes in the WORST shape of his life.
Sounds like 100 % of people in the world are taking that deal …
It was supposed to be for the universal title but instead was for us title
They definitely earned the main event with that build but to be fair Vince was right because the match was pretty underwhelming. Also Goldberg and Brock was a really fun match considering most fans weren’t expecting much. But let’s not forget the undertaker and Roman were awful closing that show
Brock vs Goldberg was a joke back then and still is for a wrestlemania event. Brock is wild and Goldberg can't sell a move 😅