True, but sometimes you mean it in the heat of the moment and then when you look back you realize you didn't actually. And it was just a spur of the moment thing.
Yup.. Game sucks ass.. Character is acting like a btch, wants to act like a hero. Even after i just used avada kedavra. BTW its really obvious you took the deep voice, its just pitched lmao.
@Jaeger19Ultima bro, the devs themselves said that the unforgivable curses were added to the game for fun, not to drown the player in penalties for using them The unforgivable curses during this games' time period were very much so, unforgivable.writerswriters
@@Eshayzbra96 They should have added an option to turn on or off a kinda "honor system" like in RDR2 just with "hard" penalties so u can decide yourself if u want them or not.
Killing somebody after torturing him with normal spells: Fine Using Avada kedavra without making him suffer as much: How could you do that, you are a monster!
Yeah, I mean, you have the wand that sets people on fire, surrounds them with explosions, makes them levitate to be flung at a wall or off a cliff, create all sorts of magic cuts and bruises... but insta-kill is off limits. Call me old fashioned, but I'd rather eat a bullet than get bludgeoned to death with Lucille, Walking Dead-style.
@@mac1991seth yeah it's like if I were aske to die being shot or slowly burned with fire like in the old days. Hell yeah I would take the bullet straight away
@@manuelbonelli3690 well theres a very big difference between suffering and being dead so it does make sense. But idk how you're saying u could use normal spells to kill and receive no real punishment, based on what? You'd still be a murderer if that was the case
Honestly lore-wise it's kind of amazing our character is willing to endure the Cruciatus curse to help Sebastian save his sister. Has anyone in the Harry Potter franchise *EVER* willingly submitted to a Crucio blast before? It's supposed to be, like, the worst pain ever. So its flipping wild (and quite likely unhealthy) just how self-sacrificial our character is.
The ancient magic probably gives them a vast level of power and protection from all magic - except the Killing Curse. If it's not deflected or interrupted on the way to the intended target, there is effectively nothing that can stop it. If it hits you, no matter how strong you are, how many magical protections you have - except a willing, loving sacrifice which is what happend to Harry - you're dead.
Our character does seem rather…. Deadpan in the game. They could do anything, you can do anything in the game, fight corpses, everything and there’s very little emotion.
Just like when Harry cast Crucio on Bellatrix, it didn't work very well because while Harry did mean to inflict pain on Bellatrix, he simply doesn't have that level of sadistic, pure, sustained cruelty. Sebastian here had the clear intention of casting the spell in order to OPEN the door, not to cause his friend pain. This is also the reason why Natty gets sent to the hospital for several days by Harlow's Crucio
To anyone who understands Avada Kedavra, Sebastian maimed his soul by killing Solomon. He literally ruined his life to help his sister. When you think about it that way, it truly is quite sad.
I don't recall the details but wasn't their a conversation between harry and hermione where she said that the hoarcrox (ignore the spelling) which are the result of ruining your soul could be reversed by remorse or something ?? But she also said the pain is so excruciating and that she doubt that voldemort will ever consider it. Also i am pretty sure it's not the avada cadavera specifically is needed to maim the soul, it's murder.
@@axelreboot8475 I rewatched the video, yeah that's the case. Although I think it would have been a stronger dark moment that would justify the horror in his sister if it was crucio or avada kedavra
I think the problem is more the fact that Sebastian reacts with the Unforgivable. He fell into the trap of ‘every problem looks like nail when you have a hammer,’ and when the hammer in question is the curses, that’s an issue.
I love it that the old guy have been smashed on the walls and ground on all that dirt and stones but in the final cutscene he is clean and neat - spick and span.
ngl Solomon is the worst guardian. He's blaming Sebastian for using the curses when he won't even help his own kid find a cure. of course he's desperate. Everyone else is pretty much not only not helping, but actively hindering his search for a cure
Tbf its implied that they tried everything at st mungos. Pretty arrogant to believe you can discover a specific cure by messing with dark magic you know nothing about.
I like how those three curses are considered unforgiveable when there are many other spells just as bad. Like why isn't wiping someone's memory considered unforgivable? Or reading someone's mind?
It is because their only purpose is to harm or kill others, spells like Bombarda can surely kill someone but that's not it's only use, as for reading's someones mind it can be used for criminal interrogation maybe? lol
@@gary2423 If legilimency was useful for criminal investigations then how did so many death eaters get away with claiming they were under imperius? They could have just read read their minds and saw they were lying.
@@elitesayanz AK was able to be blocked by Dumbledore in both the battle at the ministry and in Fantastic Beast when he and Abelforth protected Credence. Harry was able to block it in the graveyard, during the battle of the 7 Potters, and during the finale. Imperious is said to able to be resisted.
@@YourEmperorStef Doesnt seem like it, since the main character shrugs it off. Honestly a liver shot (which incapacitates a person instantly does more damage than a crucio.
@@GeoGyf didnt the dude explicitly say in this video that you have to truly mean to cause harm for crucio to do anything significant? sebastian's warped as fuck but he still considers the protagonist his friend, so he wouldn't truly intend to cause them harm just to open a door.
@@deffdefying4803 Doesn't matter if they're your brother, father, mother, or an enemy. It requires the same intent for all of them: You must WANT to cause pain for it to work. Obviously Sebastian wanted to cause pain, he'd rather that then die in that chamber from starvation. Doesn't mean he never considered you a friend.
@@MCshadr217 Realistically that would be a bad choice to make because he could rat you out for revenge and say that he taught you all 3 unforgivables and you had no problem in learning them
Honestly Solomon is very black and white about the dark spells. Life is never you should or should not do something it always depends on situation. That and their lighting each other on fire and smashing their enemies heads into the walls and ground. Avada kadavra seems a merciful quick death
@@Inquisitor_Askeladdyeah but he literally just stood nearby while Sebastian had to use the Imperius curse, how can he even say what he says in that situation
It’s surprising how bad Solomon’s writing was. He abandoned his nephew for saving his sister’s life from being murdered and refused to see reason. You know what a good guy would’ve done? Connected with the nephew and explained why they’re wrong. But not Solomon, because he doesn’t care about his family.
His questline should be happy if he didn't use Imperio in front of his uncle. But I believe his other skills were currently in the cooldown so he used it 🤣
It's weird, Solomon would rather have his younger child die than be fine with a goblin committing suicide because it was murder-intending *regardless*. Sebastian is doing things out of a new meaning and intention, he wants to get help one way or another. I don't know the story, but I do know being treated poorly, so I can completely understand him and not even bother pitying Solomon.
If you think it through: Solomon screaming so much at Sebastian just because he was looking for cures for his sister, even though at first Sebastian wasnt leaning towards dark arts, he still god mad, the first introduction of Solomon is that Sebastian got a medicinal flower to his sister and Solomon said "STOP IT YOU WILL NEVER CURE HER " (and then burns the Flower in front of him), so yeah he was an asshole, even though he understood the moral beetween not using the curses and using them, he was too much of a dick to talk to Sebastian about it correctly. The Sister couldnt help cause she was in pain, we the players are tied by the writers dialog options, and Ominis lacks a lot of Backbone to speak up, but how could he anyways with how fucked up is his family in the first place?... In the end Sebastian was driven into a corner looking into a dark arts book, maybe the relic could´ve helped but it was also doing damage and sebastian wasnt looking at it as he was too focused on curing his sister´s curse. Even if said "Experts" said there was no cure, they coud´ve done a way better job, like looking for a good spirited goblin willing to help them as it was supposed to be some kind of Goblin Curse, or use Imperio on an evil Goblin and force it to speak about the curse. But there was literally no one on the right mind in the entire scenario, not even the MC as we werent able to do anything about it (for the sake of the Plot really).
Crucio seems weak here. In books Harry got few minutes of pain so agonizing, he couldn't even focus on anything, just laying and tremoring from pain, not to say instantly stand up, like a character here.
What’s funny is when Sebastian tells you he didn’t mean to kill Solomon, you realise that it’s a blatant lie since (as he has already previously stated) in order to cast an unforgivable curse, you need to want to do it. I understand it may have been in the heat of the moment though. Can’t say I blame him though. Solomon was a prick and at least Sebastian was trying to do something.
If they wanted to play a little fast and loose with the canon, this could have been really cool. While exploring the scriptorium, you find a reference to a counter curse for Avada kedavra. Salavar Slytherin found one during the height of his power. He realized the impact this would have both good and bad if it got out, and placed the knowledge in a relic and hid it. It turns out the relic you find in the quest is that same relic. When the relic is destroyed, so dies the only remaining knowledge counter curse for Avada kedavra, hence why it can't be countered in the books and movies.
The only known repository of that knowledge we know of, there may be more, or it could be regained - but it would be unimaginably difficult. ALSO. that relic looks a lot like a SITH HOLOCRON.
@@karlthorsten9118 Now that would be a fun crossover. Maybe some Force Users landed in the world of Harry Potter in ancients times and wizardkind is actually their descendants, so magic is just the force and wizards are the only ones that can use it because they are descended from the only Force Sensitives that landed on earth in ancient times.
I'm sure they intended Sebastian as a cautionary tale, but it ended up being one of justification. Crucio: No choice. Either someone casts it, or all three die. Imperio: Saved the life of his sister with it. AK: Ok, this one's harder to justify, but the situation is an adult ex-auror using lethal spells against two students, while Inferi are trying to claw their eyes out. They're both in serious danger, and their lives are threatened. He thinks nothing of using giant inferno columns against us. There's an element of self-defence in there, though Sebastian's certainly going for the nuclear option. However it may well have ended up one of us killing him with a fire blast, or some other spell not part of the big green three.
Ominis is quite literally the most redeemable of the 3 of us when it comes to dark magic. (Depending on how you decide to play as a character). And he used crucio under duress, the vast majority of people, I think, would understand that.
@@elid3630Yeah, but that’s not what this guy’s talking about, at least I think. He’s likely referring to the fact that Ominis is a direct ancestor to Voldemort
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the man tortures you, enslaves someone and causes them to off themselves, and kills his uncle. "good" is in the rearview mirror about twenty miles back.
@@Nikotheleepic sorry but he goes the entire game up to that point using spells other than imperio and avada kedavra, and did fine. There was no actual need for him to mind control someone to off themselves in front of his sister. Disarm the goblin, knock it off its feet, suspend it in the air, i mean his uncle could probably see it himself by that point, he probably could’ve helped do something to distract the goblin long enough for Sebastian to grab his sister and run. And when his uncle tells the dude he’s taking it too far and tries to stop him, as any reasonable person of authority should do, the uncle gets outright murdered for his efforts. It’s the fact that it’s a kneejerk reaction to Sebastian’s problems that deeply concerns me.
@@deffdefying4803 what? does it make a difference if you kill the with a fire ball and cause pain with a horrible poison? would you be happier if he had repeatedly beat the uncle to submission instead
Theres something strange about a “friend” being able to successfully cast unforgiveable curses on his “friends.” I mean, how easy is it to truly, without reservation, want to cause torturous pain to a friend? The fact that the spell works is proof that his intention was clear.
I dont think so, in the books crucio causes minutes of torture here it is only a few seconds similar to when harry used it on bellatrix and she said he did t have the intention.
I feel like "meaning it" is really fickle. Sebastian "meant it" bc he wanted to get out, and that was the only way out. He normally wouldn't want to cause pain to us, but bc it was the only way out, he could. That's my interpretation anyway
The funniest part was that everything could've been perfectly fine, if people weren't such drama queens about it. "Oh no, you used mind control to kill a goblin and saved your sister, how could you?!" "Oh no, you're searching for the cure in the "naughty" books, how can you do such a thing?!" "Oh no, you literally ruined your life to save me, time to burn the book that might've cured me and waste my brother and uncle's sacrifice!" What the fuck is wrong with these people.
Well the thing is that everyone but Sebastian had accepted her fate at this point. Even Anne didn't want him to keep searching for a cure, she just wanted her brother to support her as she is now. Sebastians actions were entirely obsessive and against the wishes of literally everyone else, to the point he didn't recognize how much his uncle DID care by taking care of Anne.
See, Sebastian casting Imperio wasn’t even a bad thing, he made the goblin stop it’s attack. The real wrongdoing was making the goblin gut itself in front of his uncle and sister, that was the defining moment of that encounter. Although that really boils down to his hatred of goblins at this point since he still believes they’re the ones who cursed her. Despite him casting an unforgivable curse, it may have gone over slightly (maybe not with the uncle) better with Anne but it was what he made the goblin do under the control of the curse that crossed a line.
I think it also goes to show that Sebastian was indeed sinking too deep into the use of the Dark Arts. He can use literally a ton of other spells to stop the goblin, but his first instinct was to react with Imperio.
Some interesting fact about Imperio curse at 4:22 . The dwarft proceed to kill himself after Sebastian casted the Imperio spell. If you look up about Imperio, it says "The Imperius Curse forces the victim to obey the caster's commands", which is Sebastian himself commanded the dwarft to suicide...
The voices in this game being simply robotically pitched down or up is funny in some instances, annoying in most. The fact it's just tinny, and unpolished audio is the most annoying part. The deepest choices for both voices can be useful for a "Dark Arts" type character, but only if they're wearing a mask, as then it sounds as though they're corrupted under the mask and the mask is hiding it. Even then, since how "Heroic" our main character is in most dialogue, it still doesn't really work.
man this is really sad i wont have really suck up to sebastian after all that happenned sebastian couldnt move on he was tooo focused on trying make a future of her with him that he didnt focus on the time he had with at present instead hurting a lot of people in the process a tragic story
why didn't sebastian used another spell instead of imperio? there's a list with some spells he could've used: depulso, levioso, expeliarmus, flippendo, glacius...
@@billcipher1756 i used the wizarding world website, I should've added that context. But worst house? Clearly you lack any basic form of respect for someone's preference and/or opinion
@@tps_sp you arent brave or courageous, you arent witty or smart, you arent even ambitious or cunning. what are you as a hufflepuff? its not hard to be modest or loving when you are incapable of doing anything else
@@billcipher1756Hufflepuff is more about a house that stands with freedom, and humility. But who said they are not witty, and who said they are not brave? People from Hufflepuff are people who not ambitious to be part of something big, they just want to enjoy life and enjoy what they like. Basically a place for people who devote themselves to a pacifist mindset. Maybe they are the less dominant faction, but surely they are the faction that is fun to be around and hang out with.
To learn avada kedarva you need to do the puzzle thing and I like how it’s in the shape of a lighting bolt which refers to Harry Potter and how he got the mark.that’s a cool easter egg
Tell me one reason on how brutally pushing someone into the wall and ground is less unforgivable than killing someone with a spell that instantly kills someone without pain
Or striking them with either lightning bolt, just obliterating someone to just ashes or even shrinking them to small enough size to squash them under your foot
There were a number of spells Sebastian could have used on the goblin. Even a petrification spell. I think he wanted to be proficient in the dark arts and use them for good though all it seemed to do was turn people against him. His heart was in the right place but he really was riding the line.
the pattern you need to move the cursor in in order to learn crucio resembles that of avada kedavra, with the lightning bolt shape, only crucio has an extra turn. almost as if it symbolizes that torture goes farther than death, or is worse than death.
I don’t think there’s any reason Seb should’ve resorted to using Imperio, he could’ve used another spell that isn’t an Unforgivable, like Arresto Momentum.
That spell only lasts so long, and it’s doubtful that they could all get out of danger before it wears off. And when it does wear off, you’ve still got to kill him, which yet again places them all in danger.
@@poplops1 It does wear off but it isn’t meant to hold the goblin in place for a long time, just to stop him from killing Anne. Freezing or stunning or levitating the goblin would all work to halt the attack, and killing or detaining him would be the next step.
Solomon cast blasting curses at Sebastian and the mc. He proactively hindered any attempt at even bringing COMFORT to Anne. We know that Solomon blames Sebastian for his and Anne's parents death, we know that Solomon is an outright cruel and hypocrite bastard. He gave up on his niece but more than that condemed her to death. When Sebastian, out of extreme desperation, turned his attention to dark stuff and went through hell, only to see all his attempts go in vain, he reacted naturally. What he did is not excusable, however, as we know later in the story, Sebastian regrets it. Sending him to Azkaban is still unfair, as that would torture what remains of his soul, until there is nothing left of it. So much for killing the TRUE murderer Solomon is.
Imagine casting crucio on someone and than seriously asking them if they are alright. I almost thought he would cast avada kedavra and ask "Are you alive?"
4:22 imperio and 11:04 kind of brutal (to his uncle) but I understand he is mad at him for using unforgivable curse 11:22 Ik that she thinks he is getting attacked and 12:02
its pretty silly if you think that "just" some pain inflicting curse is so powerfull that it is forbidden but also you see people just walk it off 10sec after it. imagine it would traumatice you afterwards or maybe something that let it earn his title
waterboarding shooting rape.....murder by civilians and the rest of the crimes they commit, scammers ..... unfortunately for you evil is subjective but those who shoot in the military do so under law, under conventions , under regulations and are trained ......any action can result in evil being done or people being hurt or worse.....people chose to drink and drive...
@@w_rry Ominis also isn't, he is just from the Gaunts family as Tom Riddle's mother, but he didn't have children, so I guess technically Ominis isn't a predecessor
Sebastian: "I didn't mean to."
Also Sebastian: "Remember like with all the Unforgivables, you have to MEAN it. Your intentions have to be clear."
True, but sometimes you mean it in the heat of the moment and then when you look back you realize you didn't actually. And it was just a spur of the moment thing.
@@prometheusRDS nah, you just need to mean it at the moment, regret it later or not is another story
clearly, he didn't mean to mean it ;)
@@prometheusRDS of 20k spells he ofcourse picks the irriversible one
I mean Ominis didn't want to use it on Muggles, but he was able to cast it on them after being forced to by his family.
"If you cast crucio, you'll regret it forever"
*Uses it every battle" xD
bassically
Accurate
at that point he already regrets it forever, it only makes sense to continue using it
Yup.. Game sucks ass.. Character is acting like a btch, wants to act like a hero. Even after i just used avada kedavra.
BTW its really obvious you took the deep voice, its just pitched lmao.
@@jespermynchau5580 wrong comment buddy were talking about out main charakter bc we use it every time and the game is a really good game
Funniest thing is that there is litteraly no penalty for using these curses.
Avada kedavra everyone and have fun!
@Jaeger19Ultima pewpewpew avada kedavra
@Jaeger19Ultima They were marked as unforgivable in the 1700s.
@@CramcrumBrewbringer Thank you General. I couldnt bring myself to give him a serious answer.
@Jaeger19Ultima bro, the devs themselves said that the unforgivable curses were added to the game for fun, not to drown the player in penalties for using them
The unforgivable curses during this games' time period were very much so, unforgivable.writerswriters
@@Eshayzbra96 They should have added an option to turn on or off a kinda "honor system" like in RDR2 just with "hard" penalties so u can decide yourself if u want them or not.
Draco: **can't emotionally handle killing dumbledore**
Sebastian: **kills his uncle without tears**
Well, Draco and Sebastian are both very different characters. Although both are very misunderstood and broken.
@@foxtatertot Yeah.😢
His uncle was a b**ch
Maybe bc dumbledore wasnt an abusive asshole?
@@Thedawg2604 i mean okay but that was Sebastians uncle....
“Are you alright?” Well I don’t know, did you cast the *Torture* Curse correctly?
Technically that was Ominis, kinda sad that Sebastian didn’t seem to care.
Ah wait no I’m an idiot.
@@Code_Lune we all are so don’t worry
Jesus died for your sins and rose from the dead 3 days later so that you may have eternal life, believe in who He is and what He did to be saved
@@Jan.Mendezstfu
@@Jan.MendezNo.
Killing somebody after torturing him with normal spells: Fine
Using Avada kedavra without making him suffer as much: How could you do that, you are a monster!
Yeah, I mean, you have the wand that sets people on fire, surrounds them with explosions, makes them levitate to be flung at a wall or off a cliff, create all sorts of magic cuts and bruises... but insta-kill is off limits. Call me old fashioned, but I'd rather eat a bullet than get bludgeoned to death with Lucille, Walking Dead-style.
@@mac1991seth yeah it's like if I were aske to die being shot or slowly burned with fire like in the old days. Hell yeah I would take the bullet straight away
@@manuelbonelli3690 I mean I don't wanna die tho
@@simplekid4328 that still doesn't make sense, one could still use normal spells to kill and receive no real punishment: That's just stupid
@@manuelbonelli3690 well theres a very big difference between suffering and being dead so it does make sense. But idk how you're saying u could use normal spells to kill and receive no real punishment, based on what? You'd still be a murderer if that was the case
Honestly lore-wise it's kind of amazing our character is willing to endure the Cruciatus curse to help Sebastian save his sister. Has anyone in the Harry Potter franchise *EVER* willingly submitted to a Crucio blast before? It's supposed to be, like, the worst pain ever. So its flipping wild (and quite likely unhealthy) just how self-sacrificial our character is.
The ancient magic probably gives them a vast level of power and protection from all magic - except the Killing Curse. If it's not deflected or interrupted on the way to the intended target, there is effectively nothing that can stop it. If it hits you, no matter how strong you are, how many magical protections you have - except a willing, loving sacrifice which is what happend to Harry - you're dead.
Our character does seem rather…. Deadpan in the game. They could do anything, you can do anything in the game, fight corpses, everything and there’s very little emotion.
Technically serious did against voldemort
Ominou is actually the grandfather of voldermort
Just like when Harry cast Crucio on Bellatrix, it didn't work very well because while Harry did mean to inflict pain on Bellatrix, he simply doesn't have that level of sadistic, pure, sustained cruelty.
Sebastian here had the clear intention of casting the spell in order to OPEN the door, not to cause his friend pain.
This is also the reason why Natty gets sent to the hospital for several days by Harlow's Crucio
3:30 *Literally in pain*
Sebastian asked calmly: Are you all right?
He actually did ask calmly unlike Dumbledore when he asked Harry if he had put his name in the Goblet of Fire
Typical background character idiocy.
@@craigqrater4187 CLASSIC
Meanwhile when we cast it on sebastian we don't even ask if he's alright after lmao
@@sonicranger1912we really dont care about him lol
13:02 Sebastian, wait! There's a lot of loot around here!
🤣😭
"No, wait, come back" while pilfering tomb riches.
If you spamm that "hold roll button" move you can run much faster.
I could almost hear anakins betrayal in the avada kedavra scene
I thought it was just me who hear it
so glad i am not the only one! It sounds so much like it!
Exept that sebastin isn't the chosen one.
@GenDrake3, I heard it, too! Also, I am such a Star Wars fan! Anakin is one of my favorite characters.
To anyone who understands Avada Kedavra, Sebastian maimed his soul by killing Solomon. He literally ruined his life to help his sister. When you think about it that way, it truly is quite sad.
I mean if he really didn't want to maim his soul he could have stabbed the man with a knife. It only really maims the soul if you use the curse right?
I don't recall the details but wasn't their a conversation between harry and hermione where she said that the hoarcrox (ignore the spelling) which are the result of ruining your soul could be reversed by remorse or something ?? But she also said the pain is so excruciating and that she doubt that voldemort will ever consider it.
Also i am pretty sure it's not the avada cadavera specifically is needed to maim the soul, it's murder.
@@jlinus7251 Murder as a whole is the supreme act of evil. Avada Kedavera is simply one of the ways to kill
Solomon got what he deserved 😌
Sebastian said it himself at the Crusio door, unforgivable curses will only work if you really mean it
“stop Sebastian hold on”, “im looting”
LMAO Right!?
Solomon: “I _am_ protecting you!”
*Also Solomon* : iNcEnDiO!
I mean he kept saying levosia at the beginning
love it when he learns the avada kadavra curse and its harry potter scar
Harry's scar is the shape it is because of the shape of the movement for casting avada kadavra
@@tristanteet9978 that is what they said you just reversed it
@@LeodisTrainSpotter no, this order is correct, Harry’s scar is not a lightning bolt but rather the motion made when casting the killing curse
@@TikTorchic18 I'm not talking about that I'm talking about how they just repeated the of comment
@@LeodisTrainSpotterNo. The correct order is Harry's motion is the lighting of the scaring kill made by cursing the bolting cast.
3:10 Crucio
4:15 Imperio
11:05 Avada Kedavra
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@@luksalter8200 u r welcome bro.
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@@TuanTaoTon Crusio? Maybe Crucio?
Lol that uncle is a psycho.
"You cant kill someone when they're trying to murder your loved ones"
@@mohamedbelkacem9889 He forced him to stick a dagger into himself
@@Petr_LA wait, did I miss that part? I thought he just stopped him.
@@mohamedbelkacem9889 technically he forced the goblin to off itself so that would be considered murder legally
@@axelreboot8475 I rewatched the video, yeah that's the case.
Although I think it would have been a stronger dark moment that would justify the horror in his sister if it was crucio or avada kedavra
I think the problem is more the fact that Sebastian reacts with the Unforgivable. He fell into the trap of ‘every problem looks like nail when you have a hammer,’ and when the hammer in question is the curses, that’s an issue.
I love it that the old guy have been smashed on the walls and ground on all that dirt and stones but in the final cutscene he is clean and neat - spick and span.
It's magic!
Reparo himself offscreen haha
ngl Solomon is the worst guardian. He's blaming Sebastian for using the curses when he won't even help his own kid find a cure. of course he's desperate. Everyone else is pretty much not only not helping, but actively hindering his search for a cure
I agree 10000000%
Tbf its implied that they tried everything at st mungos. Pretty arrogant to believe you can discover a specific cure by messing with dark magic you know nothing about.
Damn right.
He’s just another asshole.
Always so quick to criticize yet making NO EFFORT to get off his ass and help out!
Solomon had it coming
Agreed and he was literally trying to kill mc in the catacombs
I like how those three curses are considered unforgiveable when there are many other spells just as bad. Like why isn't wiping someone's memory considered unforgivable? Or reading someone's mind?
It is because their only purpose is to harm or kill others, spells like Bombarda can surely kill someone but that's not it's only use, as for reading's someones mind it can be used for criminal interrogation maybe? lol
Cause you can defend from them or they have a counter spell, the 3 of those are unavoidable
@@gary2423 If legilimency was useful for criminal investigations then how did so many death eaters get away with claiming they were under imperius? They could have just read read their minds and saw they were lying.
@@elitesayanz AK was able to be blocked by Dumbledore in both the battle at the ministry and in Fantastic Beast when he and Abelforth protected Credence. Harry was able to block it in the graveyard, during the battle of the 7 Potters, and during the finale. Imperious is said to able to be resisted.
@Azuri e In the game the unforgivables break all kinds of shields on enemies so yeah,there is no blocking it
When you cast it on Sebastian it looks like he’s getting a heart attack
Because everyone reacts differently to it. It seperates the soul from the body.
@@YourEmperorStef Doesnt seem like it, since the main character shrugs it off. Honestly a liver shot (which incapacitates a person instantly does more damage than a crucio.
@@GeoGyf didnt the dude explicitly say in this video that you have to truly mean to cause harm for crucio to do anything significant? sebastian's warped as fuck but he still considers the protagonist his friend, so he wouldn't truly intend to cause them harm just to open a door.
@@deffdefying4803 Doesn't matter if they're your brother, father, mother, or an enemy. It requires the same intent for all of them: You must WANT to cause pain for it to work. Obviously Sebastian wanted to cause pain, he'd rather that then die in that chamber from starvation. Doesn't mean he never considered you a friend.
@@MCshadr217 the door only required the casting of crucio, not for the caster to truly mean it.
It would have been funny af if as soon as you learned the spell and told him it was the right thing, you could instantly cast it on him
It's okay, you can basically turn him in anyway after getting it. Basically what I did. Thanks for the curses idiot, have fun in Azkaban!
@@MCshadr217 I did that too, what a poor bozo.
@@MCshadr217 Realistically that would be a bad choice to make because he could rat you out for revenge and say that he taught you all 3 unforgivables and you had no problem in learning them
"I won't let her suffer"
**Proceeds to literally kill of of their only remaining relitives**
I mean it's true tho
Well, Solomon didn't deserve to die, but I sure blame him for most of what happened.
Honestly Solomon is very black and white about the dark spells. Life is never you should or should not do something it always depends on situation. That and their lighting each other on fire and smashing their enemies heads into the walls and ground. Avada kadavra seems a merciful quick death
Considering he is an ex-auror it's not that surprising, it was his job to hunt dark magic users.
@@Inquisitor_Askeladdyeah but he literally just stood nearby while Sebastian had to use the Imperius curse, how can he even say what he says in that situation
Avada kadavra damages the soul of the person who uses it, it’s pure evil
@@marc-ericleblanc-seguin4514 so it's better to use incendio until someone is dead.
Make them suffer a lot but have a clean soul.
Amazing.
It’s surprising how bad Solomon’s writing was. He abandoned his nephew for saving his sister’s life from being murdered and refused to see reason. You know what a good guy would’ve done? Connected with the nephew and explained why they’re wrong. But not Solomon, because he doesn’t care about his family.
7:21
Inferi: Don't worry about us, we're just chillin' with Sebastian. 😂
I love the dead silence after one successful avada kedabra, so eerie
His questline should be happy if he didn't use Imperio in front of his uncle.
But I believe his other skills were currently in the cooldown so he used it 🤣
my question is why not imperio the uncle sure its worse than torture but its better than murdering the fool
But the effect of Crucio isn't necessarily that the victim commits suicide though. Sebastian dropped his balls here.
13:26
"Stop, Sebastian. Hold on"
*Runs ahead of him*
Ominis: “if you cast Crucio then you’ll regret it forever!” Me: *Using it everytime in a battle and don’t regret it* 😂😅
It's weird, Solomon would rather have his younger child die than be fine with a goblin committing suicide because it was murder-intending *regardless*. Sebastian is doing things out of a new meaning and intention, he wants to get help one way or another. I don't know the story, but I do know being treated poorly, so I can completely understand him and not even bother pitying Solomon.
If you think it through: Solomon screaming so much at Sebastian just because he was looking for cures for his sister, even though at first Sebastian wasnt leaning towards dark arts, he still god mad, the first introduction of Solomon is that Sebastian got a medicinal flower to his sister and Solomon said "STOP IT YOU WILL NEVER CURE HER " (and then burns the Flower in front of him), so yeah he was an asshole, even though he understood the moral beetween not using the curses and using them, he was too much of a dick to talk to Sebastian about it correctly. The Sister couldnt help cause she was in pain, we the players are tied by the writers dialog options, and Ominis lacks a lot of Backbone to speak up, but how could he anyways with how fucked up is his family in the first place?...
In the end Sebastian was driven into a corner looking into a dark arts book, maybe the relic could´ve helped but it was also doing damage and sebastian wasnt looking at it as he was too focused on curing his sister´s curse. Even if said "Experts" said there was no cure, they coud´ve done a way better job, like looking for a good spirited goblin willing to help them as it was supposed to be some kind of Goblin Curse, or use Imperio on an evil Goblin and force it to speak about the curse. But there was literally no one on the right mind in the entire scenario, not even the MC as we werent able to do anything about it (for the sake of the Plot really).
Ominis is such an interesting character, I wish we got to interact with him more often
If you play as a Slytherin, you can I think
Ominis is actually the grandfather of voldermort .
@@Thebroshow13where did u get this info
@@АнастасияБригидаVoldemort is related to the haunts via his mother, who was a gaunt, look up voldemorts story and you’ll find more info
@@Thebroshow13no great uncle
Crucio seems weak here. In books Harry got few minutes of pain so agonizing, he couldn't even focus on anything, just laying and tremoring from pain, not to say instantly stand up, like a character here.
I think its because he doesnt intend to hurt you that much because you are a friend to him.
@@kakashihatake326makes sense, given you have to _want_ to cause the pain.
@@kakashihatake326that, plus it seems like the magic was siphoned off to open the door, which likely shortened the duration
Nah you just built different
I would imagine if you have a high pain tolerance cruicio is more easy to recover from faster if you're hit by it
What’s funny is when Sebastian tells you he didn’t mean to kill Solomon, you realise that it’s a blatant lie since (as he has already previously stated) in order to cast an unforgivable curse, you need to want to do it.
I understand it may have been in the heat of the moment though.
Can’t say I blame him though. Solomon was a prick and at least Sebastian was trying to do something.
If they wanted to play a little fast and loose with the canon, this could have been really cool.
While exploring the scriptorium, you find a reference to a counter curse for Avada kedavra. Salavar Slytherin found one during the height of his power. He realized the impact this would have both good and bad if it got out, and placed the knowledge in a relic and hid it.
It turns out the relic you find in the quest is that same relic. When the relic is destroyed, so dies the only remaining knowledge counter curse for Avada kedavra, hence why it can't be countered in the books and movies.
This would've been a very fun way for the story to go. Especially if Solomon came to realize what he did.
The only known repository of that knowledge we know of, there may be more, or it could be regained - but it would be unimaginably difficult.
ALSO. that relic looks a lot like a SITH HOLOCRON.
RIGHT?!
@@karlthorsten9118 Now that would be a fun crossover. Maybe some Force Users landed in the world of Harry Potter in ancients times and wizardkind is actually their descendants, so magic is just the force and wizards are the only ones that can use it because they are descended from the only Force Sensitives that landed on earth in ancient times.
Oh man, Solomon really did everyone dirty... He had his death coming tbh
I love how Solomon asks what have the two of you done… when literally 10-15 seconds beforehand you got there. Like it wasn’t us.
I'm sure they intended Sebastian as a cautionary tale, but it ended up being one of justification.
Crucio: No choice. Either someone casts it, or all three die.
Imperio: Saved the life of his sister with it.
AK: Ok, this one's harder to justify, but the situation is an adult ex-auror using lethal spells against two students, while Inferi are trying to claw their eyes out. They're both in serious danger, and their lives are threatened. He thinks nothing of using giant inferno columns against us. There's an element of self-defence in there, though Sebastian's certainly going for the nuclear option. However it may well have ended up one of us killing him with a fire blast, or some other spell not part of the big green three.
"I'm as guilty as the worst of my family". Yeaaaah, I wouldn't be so sure
Ominis is quite literally the most redeemable of the 3 of us when it comes to dark magic. (Depending on how you decide to play as a character). And he used crucio under duress, the vast majority of people, I think, would understand that.
@@elid3630Yeah, but that’s not what this guy’s talking about, at least I think. He’s likely referring to the fact that Ominis is a direct ancestor to Voldemort
"Oh Anne, what have YOU done!"- Sebastian
"What has ANNE DONE?! You're shitting me right?!"-Me the first time I saw that scene.
I think he meant to say "What have I done?"
@@michelveilleux2075 Indeed
the imperio curse was the coolest imo just seeing him use it in an actual battle is legendary
i have like at least 4 5 years as a subscriber and your content Shirrako is just phenomenal...thank you very much for this in depth videos of Hogwarts Legacy...
And with the final wave of that wand, a great and terrible evil was unleashed upon the magic world 😂.
Sebastian is good bro. A misguided good bro.
the man tortures you, enslaves someone and causes them to off themselves, and kills his uncle.
"good" is in the rearview mirror about twenty miles back.
@deffdefying4803 good job removing the context and just leaving actions, very not manipulative
@@Nikotheleepic sorry but he goes the entire game up to that point using spells other than imperio and avada kedavra, and did fine.
There was no actual need for him to mind control someone to off themselves in front of his sister. Disarm the goblin, knock it off its feet, suspend it in the air, i mean his uncle could probably see it himself by that point, he probably could’ve helped do something to distract the goblin long enough for Sebastian to grab his sister and run.
And when his uncle tells the dude he’s taking it too far and tries to stop him, as any reasonable person of authority should do, the uncle gets outright murdered for his efforts. It’s the fact that it’s a kneejerk reaction to Sebastian’s problems that deeply concerns me.
Kinda scary when you think what he’ll do to the player who can possibly take away pain when he realizes that dark arts doesn’t cure curses…
@@deffdefying4803 what? does it make a difference if you kill the with a fire ball and cause pain with a horrible poison? would you be happier if he had repeatedly beat the uncle to submission instead
Theres something strange about a “friend” being able to successfully cast unforgiveable curses on his “friends.”
I mean, how easy is it to truly, without reservation, want to cause torturous pain to a friend? The fact that the spell works is proof that his intention was clear.
I dont think so, in the books crucio causes minutes of torture here it is only a few seconds similar to when harry used it on bellatrix and she said he did t have the intention.
I feel like "meaning it" is really fickle. Sebastian "meant it" bc he wanted to get out, and that was the only way out. He normally wouldn't want to cause pain to us, but bc it was the only way out, he could. That's my interpretation anyway
I’d take Sebastian Sallow and Ominis Gaunt over Draco and his posse any day thanks
Sebastian and Ominis seems like really good friends to have fun with. Minus the whole dark arts thing.
Same.
The funniest part was that everything could've been perfectly fine, if people weren't such drama queens about it.
"Oh no, you used mind control to kill a goblin and saved your sister, how could you?!"
"Oh no, you're searching for the cure in the "naughty" books, how can you do such a thing?!"
"Oh no, you literally ruined your life to save me, time to burn the book that might've cured me and waste my brother and uncle's sacrifice!"
What the fuck is wrong with these people.
Well the thing is that everyone but Sebastian had accepted her fate at this point. Even Anne didn't want him to keep searching for a cure, she just wanted her brother to support her as she is now.
Sebastians actions were entirely obsessive and against the wishes of literally everyone else, to the point he didn't recognize how much his uncle DID care by taking care of Anne.
Here is the comment I was looking for.
@@nerdygirlcosplay2430or just support sebestian to find the cure. Everything would have been much simpler
I finished the Solomon fight in a few seconds with ancient magic, which goes to show how op ancient magic is
He didn't really have to cast Imperio. Could have used depulso, or expeliarmus. But Imperio was cooler
See, Sebastian casting Imperio wasn’t even a bad thing, he made the goblin stop it’s attack. The real wrongdoing was making the goblin gut itself in front of his uncle and sister, that was the defining moment of that encounter. Although that really boils down to his hatred of goblins at this point since he still believes they’re the ones who cursed her.
Despite him casting an unforgivable curse, it may have gone over slightly (maybe not with the uncle) better with Anne but it was what he made the goblin do under the control of the curse that crossed a line.
I think it also goes to show that Sebastian was indeed sinking too deep into the use of the Dark Arts. He can use literally a ton of other spells to stop the goblin, but his first instinct was to react with Imperio.
Or hell even use that spell Arresto Momentum on goblin instead
Sebastian is a interesting character
"Are yoy alright?" Bud you just casted crucious on him
Some interesting fact about Imperio curse at 4:22 . The dwarft proceed to kill himself after Sebastian casted the Imperio spell. If you look up about Imperio, it says "The Imperius Curse forces the victim to obey the caster's commands", which is Sebastian himself commanded the dwarft to suicide...
What’s the interesting fact about that? That’s common knowledge
@@juliobonilla3104 I think it’s more the fact the Sebastian told the Goblin to kill itself
@@juliobonilla3104 not all people know about this "basic" knowledge
@@pepefrog8626 True tho, i'm new to this harry potter lore and thats interesting...
It's not a fucking dwarft ffs
Crucio - 3:20
Imperio -4:20
Avada Kedavra - 10:58
If you want to skip the dialogue and immediately see Sebastian cast the curses
The voices in this game being simply robotically pitched down or up is funny in some instances, annoying in most.
The fact it's just tinny, and unpolished audio is the most annoying part.
The deepest choices for both voices can be useful for a "Dark Arts" type character, but only if they're wearing a mask, as then it sounds as though they're corrupted under the mask and the mask is hiding it. Even then, since how "Heroic" our main character is in most dialogue, it still doesn't really work.
I love it how ominis said “I wish we had some liquid luck”, me who had Felix Felecis at that point
poor Sebastian. he did all this for his sister
Sebastián uses crucio on you"
You: AEGHHHHHHY
HIM:are you alright?
Ay, bro, you aight?
Yeah, no, let me just walk off the *torture* curse
*proceeds to do exactly that*
14:11 Wow, he's as possessive as Anakin...
man this is really sad i wont have really suck up to sebastian after all that happenned
sebastian couldnt move on he was tooo focused on trying make a future of her with him that he didnt focus on the time he had with at present instead hurting a lot of people in the process a tragic story
Who are the lot of people? The ones who gave up without giving explaination?
Ominis was the true victim, but the uncle brought this on himself.
I believe that was the point, which is why it is so interesting.
why didn't sebastian used another spell instead of imperio? there's a list with some spells he could've used: depulso, levioso, expeliarmus, flippendo, glacius...
thank you sebastian now time to tie up the loose end and cover up the murder
Casts the Torture curse on a friend, "Are you alright?" Yea mate im good.....
this game made me a Hufflepuff but I enjoy using Dark Arts due to just how useful it sometimes is
"the game made me a huffelpuff"
the game didnt make you the worst house, you chose the worst house. or maybe you just belong there
@@billcipher1756 stop being a dick! Let people play how they wanna play
@@billcipher1756 i used the wizarding world website, I should've added that context. But worst house? Clearly you lack any basic form of respect for someone's preference and/or opinion
@@tps_sp you arent brave or courageous, you arent witty or smart, you arent even ambitious or cunning. what are you as a hufflepuff? its not hard to be modest or loving when you are incapable of doing anything else
@@billcipher1756Hufflepuff is more about a house that stands with freedom, and humility. But who said they are not witty, and who said they are not brave? People from Hufflepuff are people who not ambitious to be part of something big, they just want to enjoy life and enjoy what they like. Basically a place for people who devote themselves to a pacifist mindset. Maybe they are the less dominant faction, but surely they are the faction that is fun to be around and hang out with.
You can never have too many goggles.
To learn avada kedarva you need to do the puzzle thing and I like how it’s in the shape of a lighting bolt which refers to Harry Potter and how he got the mark.that’s a cool easter egg
"now youve gone to far" said casually by his dad while being lit on fire
Tell me one reason on how brutally pushing someone into the wall and ground is less unforgivable than killing someone with a spell that instantly kills someone without pain
Or striking them with either lightning bolt, just obliterating someone to just ashes or even shrinking them to small enough size to squash them under your foot
6:38 Solomon you got fired from the ministry of magic for using an unforgivable curse on a dark wizard toy you can’t say that as an excuse
He was nothing more than a f****** hypocrite.
Sebastion is a fucking menace when he casts imperio*. Caught me off guard
There were a number of spells Sebastian could have used on the goblin. Even a petrification spell. I think he wanted to be proficient in the dark arts and use them for good though all it seemed to do was turn people against him. His heart was in the right place but he really was riding the line.
is the game also so out of sync between sound and visuals and has such sound errors or is it just the youtube video?
I think it's just the video. I haven't had these issues while playing it.
@@SergeantTeabag good to hear, thanks
A True Harrypotter fan would notice that the Symbol for Avada Kedavra when learning it, is Harry's Lightening bolt.
Why does the protagonist voice sound so metallic?
I had that too until i went into menus and turned "pitch" down to 0.0
MC: Sebastian, wait!
Also MC: Revelio!
why the voice and video is not synchronized?
the pattern you need to move the cursor in in order to learn crucio resembles that of avada kedavra, with the lightning bolt shape, only crucio has an extra turn. almost as if it symbolizes that torture goes farther than death, or is worse than death.
6:47 There Will Probably Be A Song Called Guilty One Day
Solomon: They’re called Unforgivable for a reason
Sebastian 5 minutes later: AVADA KEDAVRA
I don’t think there’s any reason Seb should’ve resorted to using Imperio, he could’ve used another spell that isn’t an Unforgivable, like Arresto Momentum.
That spell only lasts so long, and it’s doubtful that they could all get out of danger before it wears off. And when it does wear off, you’ve still got to kill him, which yet again places them all in danger.
@@poplops1 It does wear off but it isn’t meant to hold the goblin in place for a long time, just to stop him from killing Anne. Freezing or stunning or levitating the goblin would all work to halt the attack, and killing or detaining him would be the next step.
Bro's spells were probably on cool down
Avada kedavra tutorial:its a lightning form
Me:IS THAT A POTTER REFERENCE?
Why does our reaction to crucio seem less painful than Anne’s reaction to her stomachache curse? 😂
sebastian:"oh shit i use the killing curse on my uncle"
sebastians 5 mins after: "so u wanna learn it too :)"
(Literally 3 seconds after casting crucuio)
Sebastian: Are you alright?
Welp, I expected Riddle would "test" *Abrakadabra* on Sebastian.
"Stop, Sebastian, hold on."
Meanwhile: takes the loots
Solomon cast blasting curses at Sebastian and the mc. He proactively hindered any attempt at even bringing COMFORT to Anne. We know that Solomon blames Sebastian for his and Anne's parents death, we know that Solomon is an outright cruel and hypocrite bastard. He gave up on his niece but more than that condemed her to death.
When Sebastian, out of extreme desperation, turned his attention to dark stuff and went through hell, only to see all his attempts go in vain, he reacted naturally.
What he did is not excusable, however, as we know later in the story, Sebastian regrets it. Sending him to Azkaban is still unfair, as that would torture what remains of his soul, until there is nothing left of it. So much for killing the TRUE murderer Solomon is.
*Crucio!*
*Screams in pain*
*“Are you alright?”*
No.. he’s perfectly fine!
Definetly did not see the Avada coming
Is it possible to learn avada kedavra without killing his uncle or am I sol?
No, and avada kedavra kind of endgama/lategame spell too
I mean he deserves it lol
Imagine casting crucio on someone and than seriously asking them if they are alright. I almost thought he would cast avada kedavra and ask "Are you alive?"
"ahh. ahh. ow"
"are you alright?"
Come on now, Solomons reaction to the imperio curse is so stupid that it honestly ruins the moment
Sebastians line is the best in the game!
7:50
He has the Sith Holocron! He's gonna destroy the tem- I mean castle!
AT 4:22, Sebastian saved the life of his sister. Yes the unforgivable Curse was not the best way.
They have litteral flamethrower but killing and torturing curse is bad?
Sebastian: *uses 3 Unforgigable Curses
My character that casted these spells over 1000 times: How cute😊
Excruciating pain
Also them: owchie, that hurt :(
4:22 imperio and 11:04 kind of brutal (to his uncle) but I understand he is mad at him for using unforgivable curse 11:22 Ik that she thinks he is getting attacked and 12:02
its pretty silly if you think that "just" some pain inflicting curse is so powerfull that it is forbidden but also you see people just walk it off 10sec after it.
imagine it would traumatice you afterwards or maybe something that let it earn his title
Playing this as kid- i would never learn those evil spells
As an adult- waterbording, shooting&rape happen weekly. 3 evil spells who cares
waterboarding shooting rape.....murder by civilians and the rest of the crimes they commit, scammers ..... unfortunately for you evil is subjective but those who shoot in the military do so under law, under conventions , under regulations and are trained ......any action can result in evil being done or people being hurt or worse.....people chose to drink and drive...
Sebastian is Voldemort's predecessor.
No he’s not, his friend is
Voldemort has many predecessors.
Even Salazar Slytherin wasn't the oldest of them.
@@NtoTheM 8
@@w_rry Ominis also isn't, he is just from the Gaunts family as Tom Riddle's mother, but he didn't have children, so I guess technically Ominis isn't a predecessor
@@Frazerino ominis is an ancestor of voldemort
Just not direct