By the sound of it that's an automotive grade air hammer. A real aircraft grade riveter has a very controllable trigger that you can vary the speed of the stroke easily. I know,I'm an aircraft mechanic with lots of structure time doing sheet metal repairs.
It’s a rivet gun sold by a company that sells tools and supplies to work on automotive projects. I doubt there’s a difference, but who cares? A rivet gun sets rivets. Whether you work/worked on aircraft is irrelevant. Sheesh! Get a life.
@@samuelsmith5773a rivet gun looks the same, but functions differently. The trigger on a rivet gun allows you to feather to change speed and control the number of impacts on the rivet, all the way down to single hits. Air hammers have little to no control, like the video. There’s other differences too, but that was obvious.
The automotive air hammer also has varying speeds, you just have to tighten/ loosen the screw that's located directly on the bottom side of the trigger.
for those of us NOT faa certified airframe techs, placing half (at least) of the rivets in the holes ("nunu" fashion on those double rows), and temp securing the factory headed ends with masking tape prevents the "over squoze running stretch distortion" that bedevils we less than expert tin knockers. that "c!eeco every dozen holes or so" fixturing is bees knees for the oldhand, but a recipe for lots of practice for we ham handed dopes, lol. for REAL torturous set ups (overhead radii and such), a drp of krazy glue instead of tape fixtures that rivet superbly as well. loctite on the rivet shank will bond the shank as it expnds, thus giving both chem AND mechanical joint (uber strong)
i laughed way to hard when he removed the spring to put the rivet set in, thats a quick changer bud, you just pull the spring to the side... its not a beehive
Is there any method to use this type of rivits if you do not have access to back side? I HAVE SEEN GREAT LOOKING METAL WORK WITH THIS TYPE OF REVITS HOT RODS. YET THERE WAS NO ACCESS TO BACK SIDE. DID THEY CREATE PANELS WITH FAKE RIVETS AN THEN ATTACHED PANEL WITH OTHER TYPE FASTENER???
I am working on a hobby project with military spec aluminum rivets, 1/8" diameter with 100 degree flush mount. I am running into an issue, I have a mushroom head and a 2 lb bucking bar held in hand not a vise, but I cannot set the rivet. It will not compress the rivet. Do I not have enough air power? Or is the zip gun not powerful enough for heat treated aluminum rivets? I am using my grandpa's old Chicago Pneumatics zip gun: CP711. Looking to fasten two 1/8" aluminum plates together. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
You're not trying to squish them when you tap the rivet the kinetic energy gets transferred into the aluminum rivet and it starts heating up the metal when the metal is heated it becomes soft as long as you're tapping it consistently and likely you should be able to heat up the rivet enough to get it to set however if you are repeatedly tapping the rivet what you end up doing is that the Rivet will heat and cool creating a tempering effect essentially every time you heat up that aluminum rivet and it cools you are hardening the metal increasing its strength if you do this too many times the rivet will refuse to be smashed anymore if this continues the metal will eventually become so hard it will become brittle crack and break ideally you want to have the Rivet set within five seconds
Lol maybe I was a slow learner going through aircraft maintenance school but it sure as hell didn't take me 4 or 5 rivets to learn to get a good rivet consistently.
Like you to show - how you brushed the aluminum to get the brushed finish. I think you've mentioned it on another video. What is the title, and I'll look it up.
To get a dull look on the aluminum sheet use some purple/green scotch brite wet with water and rub/sand until desired look. Continuous water flow over work area is best
Hi, I'm working on a marine install using solid rivets. I want to fill any minor gaps, and create a good seal since the flange will be submerged in water. Do you have an adhesive you recommend for aluminum + solid rivets?
+David Tanner Generally we use polysulfide sealers applied to the faying surfaces that are to be riveted together. Polysulfide sealers are a two part mixture much like a two part epoxy, except it never hardens completely like epoxies. More like rubber.
Eastwood Company , Ditto ,LoL !!! Thanx for response :) . . . . Aaaah the memories !!! I a retired Journey-Man Sheetmetal Mechanic , I've worked on C-5's ,C-5A's,C-5B's ,an assortment of B-52's , an assortment of C-130's and other aircraft I can't list . Nice products :)
Looks like it hammers the shit out of the top of the rivet, in turn making its surface scratched and and dented. That's one bad thing I can already see. If the whole point of making it look mint, then do it with a manual gun which would leave minimal marks. Otherwise nice idea to save time, if you don't care how the rivets look afterwards
An A or C type gun is great but only if you can access both sides of the panel and don't need to reach into the middle like he does in the video. Car stuff often requires an almost blind type install with crazy custom backup bars. Regular squeeze type rivets look like dog poop and nobody would ever use those for something like this! I'm definitely not crazy about the marking on the head of the rivet with this setup though.
I still do not understand why you are doing this other than a cosmetic. Still trying to look for a functional use for this because it looks really cool
1 1/2 diameter? This has almost become a joke, I have not seen one video on you tube including the aviation AP mechanics that demonstrates this 1 1/2 top secret meaning. What I have heard is their explanation but not a hands on to the point in shop demonstration of this meaning. Do you have a video of this meaning and not just a bunch of babbling words to explain it please. Also, you have a pressure gage on your air hammer, does this work the same as the 1x, 2x, 3x over priced aviation air hammers. Thanks in advance.
We have this short example video which may give you some more insight. We definitely only intend this for automotive applications. th-cam.com/video/EY4qv5cZvGU/w-d-xo.html
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Celicos! Youre the only person who talked about these, everyone else just pretends they dont have a name or tell you what to do with them.
"Now we'll just do the other 236 of these..." My favorite line! looks like a great, well thought out, system. Have to get one soon!
its better for aircraft when you do this by hand instead of 236 its 23600
fantastic, just ordered one.
By the sound of it that's an automotive grade air hammer. A real aircraft grade riveter has a very controllable trigger that you can vary the speed of the stroke easily. I know,I'm an aircraft mechanic with lots of structure time doing sheet metal repairs.
It’s a rivet gun sold by a company that sells tools and supplies to work on automotive projects. I doubt there’s a difference, but who cares? A rivet gun sets rivets. Whether you work/worked on aircraft is irrelevant. Sheesh! Get a life.
@@samuelsmith5773 Your 100 percent wrong and your reply makes your sound like a child! Air hammers and rivet guns are quite different.
what do you recommend? I am actually looking to buy one for my new ame s apprentice job
@@samuelsmith5773a rivet gun looks the same, but functions differently. The trigger on a rivet gun allows you to feather to change speed and control the number of impacts on the rivet, all the way down to single hits. Air hammers have little to no control, like the video. There’s other differences too, but that was obvious.
The automotive air hammer also has varying speeds, you just have to tighten/ loosen the screw that's located directly on the bottom side of the trigger.
Looks, sounds and performs more like an air hammer than a rivet gun.
That's exactly what it is.
for those of us NOT faa certified airframe techs, placing half (at least) of the rivets in the holes ("nunu" fashion on those double rows), and temp securing the factory headed ends with masking tape prevents the "over squoze running stretch distortion" that bedevils we less than expert tin knockers. that "c!eeco every dozen holes or so" fixturing is bees knees for the oldhand, but a recipe for lots of practice for we ham handed dopes, lol. for REAL torturous set ups (overhead radii and such), a drp of krazy glue instead of tape fixtures that rivet superbly as well. loctite on the rivet shank will bond the shank as it expnds, thus giving both chem AND mechanical joint (uber strong)
Put a small piece of masking tape on your rivet set so you don't remove the plating from the rivet heads. It will look flawless when your done.
for safety you should install rivet sets before connecting your riveting gun to energy ^^
Thanks for the no bs get to the point instructions
Car guys shooting rivets always cracks me up.
Damn, that is a tight pattern.
Thanks for this presentation
You guys always have great instructional videos keep up the great work! 👍
From what I learned ,you should staggered the rivets to prevent pulling Or buckling of the sheets.
Liscense A&P mechanic.
That is one smooth gun!
i laughed way to hard when he removed the spring to put the rivet set in, thats a quick changer bud, you just pull the spring to the side... its not a beehive
Hi , do you need tungsten bucking bars?
Not wise to use an air chisel for gunning rivets down. A 3x or 4x are rivet guns are far superior and are specifically designed for riveting.
how about _if you buy one for us? No?_ then shutup dumbass.
Is there any method to use this type of rivits if you do not have access to back side? I HAVE SEEN GREAT LOOKING METAL WORK WITH THIS TYPE OF REVITS HOT RODS. YET THERE WAS NO ACCESS TO BACK SIDE. DID THEY CREATE PANELS WITH FAKE RIVETS AN THEN ATTACHED PANEL WITH OTHER TYPE FASTENER???
I am working on a hobby project with military spec aluminum rivets, 1/8" diameter with 100 degree flush mount. I am running into an issue, I have a mushroom head and a 2 lb bucking bar held in hand not a vise, but I cannot set the rivet. It will not compress the rivet. Do I not have enough air power? Or is the zip gun not powerful enough for heat treated aluminum rivets? I am using my grandpa's old Chicago Pneumatics zip gun: CP711. Looking to fasten two 1/8" aluminum plates together. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
You're not trying to squish them when you tap the rivet the kinetic energy gets transferred into the aluminum rivet and it starts heating up the metal when the metal is heated it becomes soft as long as you're tapping it consistently and likely you should be able to heat up the rivet enough to get it to set however if you are repeatedly tapping the rivet what you end up doing is that the Rivet will heat and cool creating a tempering effect essentially every time you heat up that aluminum rivet and it cools you are hardening the metal increasing its strength if you do this too many times the rivet will refuse to be smashed anymore if this continues the metal will eventually become so hard it will become brittle crack and break ideally you want to have the Rivet set within five seconds
Can you use fix.trailer every.wete and. To hold shell are.were.coming out. Can put in same place
thank you for this great video sir (y)
Do you set the air pressure gauge at 40lbs with the trigger pulled?
Lol maybe I was a slow learner going through aircraft maintenance school but it sure as hell didn't take me 4 or 5 rivets to learn to get a good rivet consistently.
bullshit.....it takes several years for you to master this consistently.....as per BAC standards..........
BAC ? Blood Alcohol Content.
Is there any opening for me to come and doing the field??
and all these years Ive been hand peaning them the old fashion way :P
bravo. i rather had used blind type rivets for a faster job in this case!.
Stefano Grillo universal or countersunk?
Can you always use blind fasteners? What about a squeezer (pneumatic) i think that might be a time saver.
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Instead of using a cutting edged drill, shouldn't you use a reamer?
Like you to show - how you brushed the aluminum to get the brushed finish. I think you've mentioned it on another video. What is the title, and I'll look it up.
To get a dull look on the aluminum sheet use some purple/green scotch brite wet with water and rub/sand until desired look. Continuous water flow over work area is best
how can different heads are formed?
Useful 👍🏻
hi , need to do this technique ( probably with hot rivets) on a ww2 dodge :) sadly not much to find in europe so hope you have some info
What tools and materials do you use?
can be used for mild steel solid rivets?
It's designed for AN470 series aluminum rivets in steel, aluminum
@@eastwoodco we are a enclosure manufacturers so it is very helpful to me
It's like bedazzling for petrolheads.
Can i one question?
What is red mark of rivet??
Cool!
What size gun is this? 2x, 3x, or 4x?
It can handle up to 3/16" rivets so 3x
This page will have all info on this tool: www.eastwood.com/pneumatic-rivet-tool.html
We want this tools in India how can buy
did you just say aircraft rivets? that are visible? and are bulging?
Set marks!!!
do you have metric rivets? Aluminum?
Hi, I'm working on a marine install using solid rivets. I want to fill any minor gaps, and create a good seal since the flange will be submerged in water. Do you have an adhesive you recommend for aluminum + solid rivets?
David Tanner do ou still need help ? i worl on aircrafts i may help you with some details :)
+David Tanner Generally we use polysulfide sealers applied to the faying surfaces that are to be riveted together. Polysulfide sealers are a two part mixture much like a two part epoxy, except it never hardens completely like epoxies. More like rubber.
I'd recommend PR1750 or PR1422 sealer. You'll get a water tight seal with that. Stinks to the heavens when it's mixed but no smell once it's dry.
Price please very nice I m from India Gujrat Surat.
Hey Guys! I found the video. Yeah for me.
I would put my rivet set in before I put air to it
There's a LINK TO BUY in the description above!
Why so many rivets for a cosmetic strip ?
So it looks cool.
Eastwood Company , Ditto ,LoL !!! Thanx for response :) . . . . Aaaah the memories !!! I a retired Journey-Man Sheetmetal Mechanic , I've worked on C-5's ,C-5A's,C-5B's ,an assortment of B-52's , an assortment of C-130's and other aircraft I can't list . Nice products :)
Good video but music spoilt i lost interest and closed down
Ron Cooke If music seriously turned you off from learning about something new that's pretty sad. Learn to not let stupid stuff distract you in life.
This guy doesn't even know how to use the retainer...
Ozzy ô Sentence Structure.
That would take 1 yr to finish
Looks like it hammers the shit out of the top of the rivet, in turn making its surface scratched and and dented. That's one bad thing I can already see. If the whole point of making it look mint, then do it with a manual gun which would leave minimal marks. Otherwise nice idea to save time, if you don't care how the rivets look afterwards
An A or C type gun is great but only if you can access both sides of the panel and don't need to reach into the middle like he does in the video. Car stuff often requires an almost blind type install with crazy custom backup bars. Regular squeeze type rivets look like dog poop and nobody would ever use those for something like this!
I'm definitely not crazy about the marking on the head of the rivet with this setup though.
i hope will not getting the smiley face after rivetting
Show blind rivet installation...not pop rivets.
they're *_not_* pop rivets, dumbass
I still do not understand why you are doing this other than a cosmetic. Still trying to look for a functional use for this because it looks really cool
Lose the soundtrack!! Distracting!! Otherwise a good video.
Home work
1 1/2 diameter?
This has almost become a joke, I have not seen one video on you tube including the aviation AP mechanics that demonstrates this 1 1/2 top secret meaning.
What I have heard is their explanation but not a hands on to the point in shop demonstration of this meaning.
Do you have a video of this meaning and not just a bunch of babbling words to explain it please.
Also, you have a pressure gage on your air hammer, does this work the same as the 1x, 2x, 3x over priced aviation air hammers.
Thanks in advance.
We have this short example video which may give you some more insight. We definitely only intend this for automotive applications.
th-cam.com/video/EY4qv5cZvGU/w-d-xo.html
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No, nota for videos like that os Boeing as It is, bad editors without technique and principles, a shame he doesnt no know anything,he has no idea
Aircraft rivets are flush rivets... just saying ;)
Not always. The dome headed rivets he's using look very like MS20470AD6 and MS20470AD4 rivets commonly used in all number of aircraft applications
not all. do some homework
This time I will do it manually with the help of Stodoys designs.