F-150 Lightning - Payload ≠ Range
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My F150 Lightning is FINALLY here! We loaded up my family of 5 and TONS of luggage and headed to the beach. We had nearly 1300 pounds of people and luggage and drove about 700 miles round trip. Wondering how the new Electric F150 handles a road trip? Watch and find out!
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Nice to see a test using the Lightening the way many F150's are used.
When you showed us what it costs to charge the truck kinda relieved my anxiety as well 😅🇺🇸
Great video again! With a highway EPA rating of 280 miles, it looks like you had less that 5% range affected with payload at 269 miles. That's awesome!
Our reaults are similar. They are serving my business marvelously
Congrats, I got my Lightning Pro last week and love it!!!
Congrats on getting the new truck, can't wait to see more content with it!
Hello from Norway. We had these problems you do now, which made me a late adopter of EV, but now there is a fastcharger almost every 10 miles and fastcharger park evert 25 miles (still bad in the North, but getting better and better). So I think you will see it getting better too. Now, commuting in the US and Norway are two different worlds, I know, but I charge 90-97% of the times at home. And for those who do have long commute’s, they usually have a destination charger when they arrive at their workplace. That’s actually one of the big things they are fighting for now, destination chargers. When we reach our destination, either it’s work, vacation in a city, the beach, you usually are staying there for some hours. As for time lost: Hahahhaa, I’m a family father, there is no change 😂😂 I have to stop for 15 min here and 45 minutes here and there anyway on a long trip, and I just charge when I stop, even if it’s for just 10 min. I have almost have none range anxiety. I did actually have more range anxiety in my old Nissan Micra K11 which had about 370miles of range on its 10 gallon gas tank, bless that car, but it mostly came from my self: “maybe I can save 10 cent on the next station” 😂😂
What happens as more people get EV’s and when you pull up to the charging station and there’s a line up of other EV’a waiting to charge . Especially on a long weekend etc. That will be additional wasted time.. and frustrating if you are wanting to get somewhere . I think the EV’s are great for local run around town vehicles. But they are a long ways off from becoming a trouble free road trip vehicle.
Battery powered vehicles are a scam and are going to make use dependant on China
It will be just like gas stations - as demand increases, charge stations will be added as operators deem it to be financially viable. You just weren't around when gas station infrastructure was growing.
I live in a rural area. To get to a town of any real size, it’s a 2.5-3 hr drive. This is not usable for us in real life
@@MBergyman agreed . I realize the infrastructure will only get better, as will the vehicles and batteries with increased range . What I’m saying is it has a long ways to go before EV’s are a viable option to replace gas powered vehicles. I know for myself, I live in a rural area and tow a lot of trailers in remote locations. There is just no way one of these electric F150’s could do what a gas powered one does for me. But for say a contractor that mostly makes short trips in and around the city . They are a great option as they are now.
@@IraqVet0608 You don't have electricity at you house to charge at home?
What I want to see is a long term report on tire life, suspension life, and a 5-year test using one of these on a farm/ranch & pulling loaded trailers (off road as well as on).
That will not be a good report. Better hope you don't have far to pull that trailer.
Cool video, very realistic trip that my family would take in our lightning. I highly recommend getting 70% ceramic window tint on the front windshield if you can. Helps a ton with heat in the cab when driving.
Can confirm. I had my black Audi E-Tron done the same to include the panoramic sunroof. Makes a HUUGGEEE difference
I’m about one day away from getting my Lariat! Carb Grey too. Had fun watching it and looking forward to more Lightning videos.
That’s a big frunk lol can’t wait to see how you lift and the wheels!
21:00 “destination” charging is the way to go, especially as truck is sitting idle overnight anyway
How much was the charge?
Mitchell Watts, perfect name to sell electric trucks!
So glad to see we are not the only family that packs soooo much for a vacation....Capt Crunch always makes it in our totes too....lol!!
Nice video, answered some questions that I have had about the Lightning
Great video as usual. Thanks for sharing your family’s vacation with us.
Cool. Maybe I missed it but did you say what the Charge per KW Hour was at each Charging Station. We're in Calif and the KW Hour Rate is OFF THE CHARTS over here. Great REAL VIDEO Mitchell. Thanks.
I just drove back from Phoenix to Tacoma on my 3.0 duramax. 1433 miles on 2.5 tanks only. I stopped 5-10 mins at each of the 3 gas stations.
I think EVs still have a very long way to get to high speed charging and more range.
Not only that, but how many different apps did Mitch have to use just to charge? I'm sure you simply pulled out your debit card and paid for the fuel you needed.
@@richardwheeler3768 oh yeah. I firmly believe electric cars are going to be city cars only. There is no way people would want to stop 40 mins for every 200 miles drive.
Also Mitch isn't towing anything. If he was, this thing would drive 1 mile per 1% charge.
I drove my Mach E from Atlanta to New Hampshire and back last year. It was fine. Compared to how much $$ I'd have spent in gas, a little bit longer to charge is an acceptable tradeoff
Hyundai already has 350kW charging capability in their cars... 10-80 percent in 18 mins!! I know that it might not work perfectly every time.. but it's just the start!
@@alex_707 that's great! I think technology will get there at some point. It's just way overpriced for what it offers now.
Congestion on getting it and hope you make it with the kids......are we there yet?
I just used my Town and County Ford cooler, bigger than it appears, for my trip to Diamondhead Mississippi. My new TC Bronco drove like a dream and was very comfortable even on 35" tires with the Zone 2" lift/leveling kit but man she loves some gas pumps! Haha
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Stop and Go is better for the Hybrid and Electric with the Regenerative Braking...Straight Interstate driving will lower travel
I test drove a Ford lighting. Amazing torque. Hold on to the steering wheel tight, when you get on it.
EV charge networks need to allow for a pay at the charger option rather than an app & account etc for EVERYTHING. Just let folks pay at the pump and charge...
They need to follow the rules of the gas pump. Credit card pay at the pump and pull through stations, not requiring backing up and difficulties if you have a trailer.
Congratulations on your new truck sir, some advice, if you plan on frequenting Electrify America chargers then you should get the $4 a month Pass upgrade to save 10¢ per KWh, it will quickly pay for itself. Regarding range anxiety, in my personal experience as an owner of a 100 mile range EV, those feelings will subdue after a few weeks of driving once you learn what your vehicle can do. You might need to do a little planning for long trips, but for daily commutes I never feel distressed.
I like the drive ! These 🔥
Eager for the full review, loved this video. Thanks
Awesome video. The range was good. This may be the most realistic range trip video out there.
Like that town and country cooler mine looks just like it thanks to town and country!nothing like the wife calling you out lol great
Love that bed cover.
Your wife is hilarious 😂
How do you handle it day in and day out? 🤔
Thats $.19 cents a mile, holy crap. So, if you can deal with 45 min @ $36 vs 5 min @ $60, I have been teeter tottering for months on whether to go full blown Lightning, PowerBoost Hybrid or just stay with gas and by my a Ford Bronco Badlands. OMG Thanks for the video, excellent as always.
I love the power these electric vehicles have, and what it cost to recharge the battery is less than gas vehicles. Doing further research on the cost to replace the battery and life expectancy surprised me. From what I have read is that the life of the battery is 7-9 years and cost $30,000-$40,000. I know not everyone will keep a truck that long, but there are a lot of trucks over ten years old on the road.
Let's say you keep it only 5 years, and then trade it in or sell it? What's the resale value knowing it needs $30,000 of repairs in 2 or 3 years?
@@richardrogers2110 Ya, there are good and bad parts to anything. I like electric, but we need the whole picture to make a decision on which way to go.
Lovin' the Cap'N Crunch MEGA Size!
So almost an hour for 90%!?
Great range. Quiet. Must be a super road tripper
Congratulations, truck looks kool, that grey front end really matches the rest ... really glad it's working out, You sir are a pioneer ... p.s. waiting for that ski trip test ;)
My question is, if a hotel only has two charging spots, does it mean it can accommodate two overnight guests on any given night? That's the biggest variable in my opinion when you're planning a trip to an unknown tourist spot. You may have the chargers, but if people before you are leaving their EVs there overnight, you're out of luck.
Great video! Still not sold on EVs as primary vehicles simply due to the inconvenience of time to charge. The range itself isn't a big deal but the time to get that range is where I pause. That said, it's also a statement on our "go, go, go" society when 45 minutes at a fuel station is unacceptable. But, that's how it is. I'd say once technology gets to cut current charge times in 1/2 it's a serious consideration for many.
Depends on how often you take long road trips. If you are able to charge at home, you'll never stop at another gas station on your daily commute. The only time you'll need to stop and charge at a public charger is on a long road trip
If you're going on 200+ mile trips more than 5 or 6 times a year, maybe wait on EVs. If you take one a year, then it shouldn't be a factor
@@mixdupjoe that's why I said primary vehicles. Most households have 2 vehicles. Having an EV as a commuter vehicle isn't a bad idea.
That said, MANY people in America can't afford a new vehicle much less an EV.
Great video and you have another amazing truck. Health to enjoy them and hope you had a great holiday.
You could also have bought all you grocery in the wall mart while charging,so that the stop for charging is irrevelant to your trip.
Too funny, "You're such a nerd", can't stop laughing!!!
maaaaaaan , can not wait to get my ford lightning 😍 😍 😍
no more spending $$$$$$$$$$ on gas --- yeah !!!!!!!!!
i am retired so dont do a lot of traveling , just in and around my home
one charge should last me months and with all the sun/wind i get , will have a solar/wind charging station installed
so i might never have to worry about keeping the battery charged at all
19:00 $13 for 180 miles range. Wow!
I’m really looking forward to seeing some videos from people that live in New England that have these electric vehicles. I am ver interested in getting a lighting to replace my current Platinum F150 and a E-Transit to use in my plumbing & HVAC business but I’m worried about the range drop in cold weather.
Nice! … Is that drum smaller than the ReTrax Pro bed cover? … I can see you are REALLY enjoying this Ford Lightning! Blessings to the family! 😎🍷🛻❤️
Thank you brother! 👊🏻 the drums are very similar in size!
Are you going to tow with the Lightning? Would like to see some real-world range.
it basically cant tow
There are many videos showing the towing capabilities and range. Consensus is around 1.1 mi/kWh towing 8k to 10k lbs.
If every charger had a Sonic at it, I would have got an electric car years ago! Always good to hear more about this truck though, as mine should come in October. Thanks!
Thanks for all the great videos! Can you do a video testing the effect if any on efficiency with the cover closed vs open? Also the stop and go should have helped your range with one pedal driving. Did you have that on? I can get over 3 miles per kw in mine around town.
Great video as I think this is the use case for most people.
Please do a video to show charge performance at a 150kW charger vs a 350kW charger. I know there are lots of factors that go into that, but it would be interesting to see if F150 charge performance is actually hindered by using one charge station or the other. Thank you for doing this video, you have a beautiful family.
There’s already videos like that. Go check them out yourself
I see you get the same looks from your family too when you are recording content.
Everyone I know wants a F150 lighting. Ford has the IT vehicle on its hands. Make them faster Ford or build more plants.
They can't because the sk innovation plant here in commerce GA supplying the lightning pack's can't ramp up any faster. And it'll be mid 2024 before their second expansion factory is done and supplying ford&vw with more cells. Nobody else in the U.S. making ev cells has any more cell capacity available for the next 2-4years right now either. After 2025/26 it could be a lot more wide open but not until then. 🤔
Your comment about the poor cellular reception + having to set up an app while at the charge station has happened to me a couple times. Hopefully the charge station operators (Blink, Volta, etc) can develop a solution to reduce the pain points for new users. Not a big deal for me, but my mom would absolutely not be ok with that type of frustration.
I bet they ad starlink dishes to out of the way locations like tesla has started doing to it's own sc locations. 🤔
I bet Mitchell is already thinking of leveling or lifting it!!!😝😎💪🇺🇸
Great video. I think Ford said they “listened” to users and will allow fast charging up to 90%.
3 kids? No wonder you pack so much stuff! ")
But in that first 22 minutes, you’d have a full tank of gas with 400 miles of range in a F-150 without the extra wait to just get to 80%. So 45 minutes to get to 80% (with only 238 miles of range). The price of the electricity was nice. Tried to keep it as positive as possible. Good video though as always.
Hey Mitch, great as always. Sweet ride, I'm a truck guy, so I love it. How possible would it be to have a solar-powered generator with you to charge your truck? How much can you get? Would it even work? Last question, how much of that extra weight was you and Sonic? 🤔 Peace
same question
i dont have to worry about range or payload or frantically search for chargers in my gas truck, i can gas up anywhere in about 3 minutes lol
$36.98 to charge for 200 miles of range. NICE!
If you figure using just $4.50 a gallon and average 25 mpg. 8 gallons x $4.50 comes to $36 , it's better than most fuel trucks but not fantastic.
@@pstoneking3418 I get 24 to 25 in my 3.5 EcoBoost on long trips. Gas is around $4.00 per gallon now. That's $33 for 200 miles. Plus I'm back on the road in 10 minutes max, and now I don't have to stop for another 700 miles.
Great and honest video 👍
Thanks for the chipley, FL shout-out is highway 77 four laned all the way to PCB yet?? 😂
Love the video Mitchell. Social media would lead you to believe that everyone has a need to tow 10,000 pounds across the country 3 times a week leading EVs to make no sense. But for the rest of us living in reality, driving roughly 300 miles or 5 hours without the need to charge, then stopping for 45 minutes for a bathroom break and food, and a 80% charge for $12 seems like a huge positive in my book. I’m on the west coast, there’s a charger every 500 feet so not worried about range anxiety so much lol. And for the 99.9% of the time I’m driving my daily 30 mile commute to work round trip it becomes genius. I have a big bronco and a Silverado EV reservation. The bronco was my first ford ever the Silverado EV will be my first Chevy ever. It’s an awesome time to be a car enthusiast.
Good video but when you say, "There's another big (storage) section that most people don't realize! And that is going to be the bed of the vehicle!". Pretty sure most people that buy a truck know that the bed can be used to store things... I'd wager that's probably why most bought a truck to begin with...
Is Ford having you pay a subscription service for the GPS, blue cruise, voice assistant, heated/cooled seats and all that jazz?
No. Not one penny.
What's the average price of cars sold at T&C currently?
20:00 8000 lbs loaded and still getting 260 miles range at highway speeds. Perfect
I believe that bed cover made the difference.
Drive 200 miles, stop for an hour to charge.
Meanwhile, I'll gas up the Raptor, drive twice as far, and get to the beach while there is still daylight. Also still pay just slightly more to do so.
Silly little truck.
What would you have been charged for leaving a fully charged vehicle hooked up and occupying a space so that no other EV could use it? What if another customer had pulled up while you were slow-charging and sleeping ( over 90% your charge rate slows dramatically to hours), preventing them from powering up? How is this addressed?
hi am trying to buy the cover but am not seeing the discount what should it b costing Thanks
Mitch your thoughts on 63x removal through Q4 on 2023 Lightnings, not having On Board Scales & Smart Hitch is a big deal. I know chip shortage is to blame. Any thoughts? (Still order package and get Ford install later on?)
I'm a little confused by the cost of the charging. Your first charge cost you $37, but the charge on the way back cost you $13?
I'm sure it was a combination of differences in charging stations cost and instead of achieving 2.1 miles per kw his trip back achieved 2.3 miles per kw.
@@pstoneking3418 forgive my ignorance when it comes to EV charging (as I know nothing about it), but if the Lightning starts charging around 15% and goes to 80% at both chargers, should the cost be somewhat similar? I understand energy pricing will be different based on region (similar to gas prices), but I wouldn't expect one to be 3x higher. I am completely new to EVs and charging so I'm trying to learn as much as I can.
Great!
Is ford still planning to bring range extender that fits in the bed to market?
Keep in mind the F150 would charge faster if it was turned off without the AC running.
Getting my ⚡next week, how hard is that roll up cover to install???
Not hard at all!
@@TCcustoms_ is there a video on the install
Why the $7500 bribe to buy.
Lets do some calculations, you have 46 miles of range, then you paid $36.89 and you added only 192 miles of range doing the math, that's 15mpg and in texas the Gallon of gas is about $2.7 , then this means your electric truck is giving you 15mpg.... id rather stay using the gas engine
ABC. Of EV [ means always be charging } as much as you like the lightning and power and it’s torque I don’t think that it for most f150 owners who travel on long distances and don’t want the anxiety wondering if they are going to make it to the next charging station and how many truck in line in front of you waiting to charge there ev that is to much to down time for most people also the down side to that you show us in a previous video when your Mach E had to be flat towed not to mention all the and down time wasted charging the lightning for long periods on time limitations that make it less desirable then the f150 powerboost which has no limitation’s because you can always find a gas station it can do everything that the lightning can do go twice as far with a600 mile fuel range there is minimal downtime fueling up I will stay with my 2021 f150 limited powerboost I think that the right fit for most f150 owners think that the grid needs time to handle all these rv that they are trying to flood the market with these ev are best suited for around town not for long haul the price of charging might be cheep for now but once more people start using the charging station the more costly it will become charging your ev
What was current gas prices? That's what makes this information tangible otherwise there's no real comparison
I have one question for you. How tall are you? You didn't say in this video!!
Great video, thanks for the information. Do you think you would have gotten the same range if your truck didn't have the extra battery cooling from the Max Tow package? Does that even play a part? Also, I really like the tonneau cover, is that from TC Customs or from Ford?
I noticed on the screen you happened to charged up 80 kWh. Given that you got 2.2 miles per kWh, that means it cost $37 to travel about 176 miles. That same distance in a stock f150 ecoboost (assuming 19 mpg, which I would say is conservative for the highway), would cost you $45 for the same distance. So only you save about 20% in “fuel”/electricity cost with the Lightning. For me, that’s just not worth the hassle of waiting the extra time at the charging station, planning out trips, and the limited range. That’s not even considering what happens to the range of you need to tow for long distances. That’s also not considering when the cost of gas comes back down to normal - then the savings could easily be 0, or even more expensive than gas (on a road trip).
Precisely why it’s so important for the current gang to drive fuel prices higher. I’m an EV fan but believe the transition should happen more organically and not destroy the country to make it happen.
Right but 90% of the time I imagine people charging back at home / company property which cuts costs down tremendously
Mitch, can you run the a/c while charging? Understand it might effect the overall time required to charge, but was curious if that is an ok thing to do while charging without negative effects on the battery? Thanks.
I've seen many videos where the occupants remain in the vehicle utilizing everything while charging. I'm sure it will take a little longer but negligible.
This just proves that battery vehicles are not designed for long distance traveling. You spend more time charging than driving to the destination. A gas vehicle takes about 5 minutes to fill up and you are on your way for another 200-300 miles before another fill-up.
800 miles with my 36 gallon tank F-150.
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So it costs the same to charge as it does to drive my Hybrid F150. Nice info. I was thinking of trading my Hybrid for a Lighting. You talked me out of it. Same cost of running and only takes a few minutes to fill up my tank instead of waiting half hour to charge.
I would never consider an EV truck if it's main purpose was to drive long distance and pay at charge stations. That same 200 miles of local driving charging at home will cost me $12 @ $.15/kwh. And where an EV range increases in city driving, fuel vehicles range decreases. With myself though even cheaper as my home runs on solar as will my lightning when I charge it off my 13 kw solar array. So it definitely depends on where you plan on using your truck and how you charge it.
@@pstoneking3418 people like him are just liars and ev haters/trolls anyways. The average truck driver does 12-15k a year which is 35-41 miles a day or less. So this lightning at hwy speeds would last a week before needing a charge. 😀
Not enough power capacity yet and charging is not fast enough yet. Soon though. Soon. Even with the stop & go.
I want so so badly, but I have to wait about 2 years haha. Priorities..
And I will buy a fully loaded F150 Lightning Platinum anyway.
So it looks like I may have an opportunity to purchase a Pro (once it becomes available) with a $20K markup. Trying to talk him down a little bit, but wondering if it's worth it or not (especially since Ford just raised the price on the MY23 models). Should I just wait until I get a reservation and can order one myself (and take advantage of the point of sale $7500 discount) or buy this one now with a mark up but get the $7500 tax credit?
Great great great!! Love your work and I am working on infrastructure 🌞Sun farmers group
You eat cereal on the beach? Weird flex.
Wait you have to pay for the electricity?
When or if you'll lift it with beefier wheels and tires? It'll mess with the range....but it'll look good
That's why the range drops to 300 with the platinum 22 inch wheels.
Just curious. Did you feel comfortable with the blue cruise.
I have a 21 F150 KR that has it and I tried, but I was more nervous using that than I was being in control.
Great video. EV's definitely not for everyone. Perfect for people like me who will only use it locally and only charge it from my home solar system.
There no way that savings on gas justifies the extra cost of the lighting. Cool truck, but ford needs to close that gap for this to be a realistic solution.
I believe it's a great truck if used locally and only charged at home. Local driving will get a better range and @ $.15 / kwh on average while you sleep warrants the cost, with reduced maintenance and up to $7500 tax rebate for now.
Did you actually try building one out on fords build n price site vs an ice f series? The base pro lightning vs a base xl crew cab 4wd 5.0 or 3.5 with pro power is already 7-9k cheaper WITHOUT the additional fed tax credit of $7,500 the lightning still gets. Plus any state or local incentives you can qualify for. And a fully optioned lariat ice 5.0 is within 4k of a fully loaded lariat lightning. Ad the tax credit and the lightning wins again. 👍🏻
@@4literv6 Until you need a new battery.
@@richardrogers2110 covered for 8 year's and 100,000 miles under the federal ev battery warranty in every state except Cali.
Which requires manufacturer's to cover their pack's for 10 year's and 120,000 miles. Changing to 10 year's 120,000 miles for all the states after 2025. Not worried at all about a battery packs life span. 👍🏻😎
What range will a battery have after 8 years of frequent charging? Do they lose range and wouldn’t that destroy resale value if battery needs replaced soon?
Shunk Gulley, that’s where I live. Welcome to 30A Mitchell!! If you have any restaurant or questions on the area shoot me a DM. It’s a great place and so many options.
You live in a BEAUTIFUL area! So jealous! 👊🏻
@@TCcustoms_ Enjoy sir!!
The bed is not the same as other f150's, it's only 5.5 ft