S1H + NINJA V = 6K RAW! What does that really mean?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ก.ย. 2019
- UPDATE:
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Panasonic announced that that their new flagship 6K Full Frame Mirrorless Hybrid S1H will be able to record 6K RAW over Atomos NINJA V!
That's GREAT NEWS for all indies filmmakers...
Here I'm exploring what that really means, the missing info in that announcement and some comparisons with the BlackMagic 6K RAW.
I will also discuss the PRICE and how this announcement will affect it.
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NEWSSHOOTER interview with ATOMOS CEO Jeremy: • Atomos ProRes RAW Upda...
Cinema 5D Z-Cam Coverage: • Z CAM E2 S6, F6, and F...
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Thanks an lot Eli for your awesome compliments. With supporters like you I’ll be able to get my work across to everyone. Thanks again
@@THEDPJOURNEY yo I got a question, is Auto focus something I should be worried about in this camera?
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THANK YOU so much buddy... really appreciate the compliments and the encouragements. Working on more stuff... stay tuned
@@THEDPJOURNEY definitely staying tuned my man. Keep going👊🏿
Your videos are so detail oriented. Thanks for the information!
Glad you found them helpful. Thanks for watching
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Thanks again Dom, really glad you're enjoying my content. more to come very soon
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Thank you so much Troy for the amazing support! Yeah I already got in touch with a couple of them. Will work on expanding my camera network. Glad to have you onboard.
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That’s AMAZING reading such comment! Thanks Bryan. Am about to release a new episode, trying to slowly improve everything. Stay tuned
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While watching i was just hoping you mention the zcam and suddenly you did, that was my moment in your video, plus it was very informative great work.
Thanks buddy... glad you liked it
This video is so clear... everything is explained so easily... Thank you...
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Just got my S1H
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Thanks a lot buddy for the kind words. Yeah it’s a beast ;)
THE DP JOURNEY you’re welcome... just wondering how I can activate the HFR 120fps... i couldn’t find it.
Thank you 🙏
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Thank you so much, and welcome aboard
You got me to subscribe to your channel because of your well articulated and clear exposure of a rather confusing multi-facets et very technical subject. Thank you, and please keep on the good job.
I bought the S1H a couple of days before seeing your videos and the only reason I sold my GH4 for this is the fact that the S1H is the only DSLR/Mirrorless/Hybrid camera compatible with NETFLIX production format among other much more expensive pro cameras. I just learn also that this camera has a "feature" in its color science compatible with the "Aces" requirement in Hollywood, allowing it to be easily color matched with the big guys like Pana Varicam and others.
Maybe would you bother to explain a bit further about these technical aspects that, I'm sure, not everybody is aware of.
Thank you so much for the awesome compliments about my videos. Really happy it made things easier for you to understand. I will surely try and explore that ACES aspect. It’s pretty simple actually
Love your videos, I actually asked the Panasonic people at IBC about the bit depth but they didn’t have an answer.
Thanks buddy for the support... yeah I wonder why they’re hiding it?... I really hope it’s not because of it being 10 bit
Tried the same 😂
Thanks for the details. I would like to see a comparison between actual dynamic range vs the advertised dynamic range.
not sure if I'm equipped for a proper scientific DR test honestly. But I'll see if I can manage. Thanks again for the feedback
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This was so helpful! I can't wait for the E2 S6 review 🙌🏾
Thanks Justing, hopefully soon once I get my hands on it
THE DP JOURNEY any progress on getting a Zcam? I’d love to hear your take on it compared to these other 6k cameras. Thanks!
You have organized my thoughts so now I can understand myself.
Hahaha... thanks for support 😉
Great review, well explained, you answered many needed unasked questions about the new RAW format is and can do! I'm a photo & cine shooter. I travel into difficult terrain, mountain bike, hike mountains, capturing my adventures... so first and most... weight is the BIGGEST factor. I need a camera that's capable of everything. I luv the S1H, it is a dream camera really! I'm also a Canadian and buying highend equipment isn't easy! 2nd, Canadian exchange cost me just under $7,000 for $5,000 US. Last, this isn't a HUGE UPGRADE, it's a new system as I downsized to MFT's 4 years ago and sold all my Nikon gear. So besides the cost of this camera and a Ninja RAW recorder, I would need to start all over again buying FF lenses! So in my opinion, it's smart to wait and see what Panasonic offers in the GH6 next year. Cheers
Thanks Richard for the feedback. Yeah it’s surely worth waiting. They didn’t price it in a way that lets us jump on it like the case with BM4k or 6k. And that second thought we go through will probably hit let them. But I gotta say that this camera does answer a lot of stuff for filmmakers
@@THEDPJOURNEY Oh YES! It is a Filmmakers dream camera as a very capable Anamorphic first camera, or a close compact B cam on any Film set :)
Thanks for the review, some great insights. I picked mine up last week, using the 24-105 for now and adapted vintage lenses such and the CY 50mm 1.7 modded with simmod gear etc.I’m liking what i see so far. I just need to practice exposing v log correctly for low noise. 👍 perhaps a video demonstrating correct exposure in different light and the dual gain iso settings. Also editing workflow/ noise reduction and best correction LUTs.
Yeah it's a great, just finished another shoot with it yesterday. Let's see what ATOMOS will do with the raw
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Thank you so much for the awesome words of support, with great supporters like you, I will hopefully be able to reach more filmmakers out there. Thanks again
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Great explanation. Learned alot here. Thank you.
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thanks for this informative video regarding 6k/RAW functionality on the S1H and BM6K. very helpful! subscribed
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Thanks Oren... Glad you liked it
Good job man! Please give us more reviews.
Thanks Alejandro.... Already about to finish my first S1H review of a series ;). Stay tuned.
Very good coverage. As an owner of the BMPCC4K and having previously owned the GH5, your channel seems to cover what interests me most. I look forward to your review of the Panasonic S1H. A camera I may consider for the future should I reach that market level. I have subscribed.
Yeah it seems we got th esame camera choices... the S1H is the beginning of the future. It has a lot of great features and I can see where this is heading!
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I appreciate your videos. Real quality and very informative. Yes yes yes please review the Z Cam F6 & F8 when possible. I also wonder how it all compares to Kinefinity. I personally use FCP and ProRes and need to find out what works best with Z Cam’s. Thanks again
Yeah I'm also very curious ont he Z-Cam... I'll try to get in touch with them and get my hands on it soon
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I would love for you to make a video about the editing workflow with prores raw and final cut since there seem to be now one who knows how to really work with it. At least when it comes to nikon z6 and prores raw. Thank you for great videos!
Really impressive comparison.... such a detailed report
Thank you so much buddy! Glad you liked it
You got a new Subscriber! And I would definitely love to see a Z-CAM E2 line reviews made by you!
Thanks Dom! Glad to have you onboard... I would surely try to chck the Z-Cam. Hopefully very soon
I liked this video and subscribed . Very informative can’t wait for more . I’m so interested in the Panasonic S1h and Atomos progress.
I shoot Nikon DSLRs and Atomos at the moment. I make live music videos and tv shows. With the high contrast of the scenes we shoot I need something that can give me more latitude without codecs that are so taxing on the computer with multiple camera angles . We shoot up to 7 cameras and this can really tank the computers performance. So I’m interested it a new system preferably full frame. At the moment we shoot ff and apsc with one micro 4/3rds. That sensor just can’t cut the demands of live music videos and photography. Especially at some festivals where the high iso can be very extreme.
Thanks
Well in that case maybe things that shoot ProRes would be best for you due tot he performance (if you're using a mac and FCPX ideally). but yeah, avoid shooting in Long GOP, H265 as a rule of thumb. I find GH5 footage pretty reasonable to deal with if it's 8bit
Fantastic production and very informative - well done bro . ..What softeare / method did you use for the graphics ?
Great video. Very informative and professionally laid out. I am a proud Z 6 owner, and I have the paid PRR upgrade with Atomos Ninja V. I am so far happy with the results of this camera. I am curious however, why they did not choose to also do the 6k raw over hdmi. Is there a reason that you might be aware of why they wouldn't? After reading many forums, it seems as though it has the technical capabilities of at least 6k 30fps raw output, just as the Panasonic does. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
I love this video say Hi for a new subscribed and I can't wait for a Z cam E2-F6 or F8 a full
Thank you so much Rene for the support! Yeah will try to get my hands on them
Great video as always
Cheers buddy.
Very helpful! Thank you!
cheers Jon, happy you found it helful
Brilliant video!
Greetings from Germany from a BMPCC6K user =)
Greetings to you and to Germany from New York 👍😉
I cant believe how much I learned watching this. Thank you
Glad it was helpful! I encourage you to watch the updated video after testing it: th-cam.com/video/ASPoQsdo_5M/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for the clear and analytical review. Is there an update on the bits? Thank you!
Thanks for the kind words. So far we'll probably hear about the bit depth "early 2020". SO nothing for now
Great video: I was looking at the z-cam also. I think I was a bit concerned w no IBIS and AutoFocus. Would love you to dive into that one 👍🏼
Yeah it does seem very interesting! I'll try to get my hands on it
@@THEDPJOURNEY check this out wolfcrow.com/panasonic-s1h-vs-z-cam-e2-f6-which-is-the-better-investment-for-video/#features
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Hey guys I just did the update in the s1h and the atomos recorder to the latest version and my HDMI Raw recording option is grayed out, any thoughts ?
Yeah it's been postponed, they're fixing some stuff in it still
Killer video mate
Cheers thanks
your videos are amazing
Thanks buddy 👍
Another great review! I was hoping while you have the camera you could test the 1080p quality? I know it's ridiculous to ask since 4k-6k is the new wave but I still have many clients that request 1080p. I'm in the market for a new mirrorless camera and I'm getting a little tired waiting on Sony :(
Your feedback will be greatly appreciated!
I want to test the FHD actually from the High speed POV. So yeah will try to cover that
@@THEDPJOURNEY awesome, thank you!
If you keep consistency and frequency in posting youtube videos, this channel is going to be huge I believe
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Great video. I’d personally go with the bm6k for the internal raw recording.
BM6K is a great camera no doubt about it
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Hahaha... I’m happy you found it valuable resource after all 👍
Man, you are so good
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Excellent video! Congratulations!
What program do you use to create these effects?
Thanks for the compliments. I use Keynote
@@THEDPJOURNEY That is Apple Keynote for those asking who makes Keynote.
DP, how do you do the 3D movement in-and-out? Also in Keynote or in your NLE? Thank you sir!
Would love to see a review on the Z Cam! Also what camera, lens, and lighting do you use when you shoot yourself? Thank you for this video as well, I look forward to more.
Yeah I’m very curious about the z-can actually, will try to get a unit and test it out. As for my camera, lens and lighting... it all depends on the shoot. There’s nothing universal. Each project could have a whole different set of offerings that calls for different set of gear. Your vision and creative interpretation is what dictates that in the end
@@THEDPJOURNEY I meant for this specific review. What did you use to record yourself on camera.
@@Dubi00 Oh sorry, yeah I used the Sony A7III with an 85mm sigma lens
great video man!, one question do u recomend the atomos ninja V, for my sony A7SII, for better video quality and why? greetings from chile, u won your like and suscription
Thank yo much Nico, hello from NY to Chile! I honestly don't use Sony A7S, the Ninja is a very good monitor generally speaking whether you want o use it as recorder as well or not, was planning to buy it myself. Now i have more reason to.
Please make a comparison video between the new Canon C500 mark II and the new Sony FX9. Great videos by the way!
I’ll do my best. Will need to get my hands on them
I have your videos on repeat man! I just got an s1h! On my s5 I did notice a field of view increase from 4k60 and c4k60. On the s1h I don’t see it. Am I missing something or is there no more field of view. Also, If I film in c4k, what should be my timeline settings for real letterboxing? 3840x2160? 4096x2160? 3840x1920? Thanks!!!
Just have to agree with everyone else commenting here. This run-through is a class of its own. Thanks for taking the time sharing your knowledge.
Would love to hear some thoughts on the Black Magic Video Assist 12G HDR if you have any.
Thank you so much Martin for the kind words of support. I'm happy that the hard work that goes behind my videos is rewarded with such amazing appreciation from awesome people like you. I assure you I will keep on working on more great content and hope to always hear from you.
Great content brotha! I wanted to ask in your tests with the S1H can you push the Vlog to the max and shoot underexposed and overexposed scenes to see how it holds up in the grade?
yeah I actually have got the S1h but havent had the chance to test it properly yet! Will be working on it soon
THE DP JOURNEY right on brotha!
Amazing presentations! A bit fast---but, hey, it's not like you can listen as many times as necessary to learn what you need to learn.
Thanks a lot William for the compliments! Yeah i know it's a bit fast, but just trying to make it as short of length as possible. Thanks again
Grate presentation. Did you create this in premier pro?
Thanks. Keynote
The Z-Cam F6 seems like the best choice due to the common battery, small size, more frame rate options, T5 SSD option and internal RAW 15+ stop range.
Would love to see something from you about the zcam F6 ;)
Great video, as usual. Love your content!
Thanks Max, super happy you’re a member
Hi! Blackmagic 12K camera do you have any update??!! THK
Does the S1H crop at all when outputting 4K 60p via HDMI, or is it full 6K sensor readout downsampled to 4K. If not, it’s a shame that the full frame advantage is lost at 60p. This would be an additional advantage of recording out over HDMI to an external recorder.
Yeah the output is full sensor readout.
Subbed!!! Thanks
Welcome aboard 👍😉
Is there any way to output 6k 3:2 anamorphic via HDMI? I bet there no RAW option for this (shame), but I've seen internal codec is just 200Mbps.
The Panasonic Lumix S-Series Camera Professionals - S1H, S1, S1R Facebook Group has a good/high-level discussion going on about the S1H. If you are researching this camera I recommend joining.
Yeah I already joined thanks
Seeing hard work...sir ...osm.😊😊
Cheers
You didn’t mention this in Your review but I think it’s worth to add, that Edius 9.5 is now probably the only existing software which actually can read and export Pro Res Raw and read BRAW.
God to know... never heard of this software honestly
Great video. Do you know if I can use my Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8 DC HSM lens for Nikon D7100 with some adapter on Panasonic Lumix S1 H camera?
Not sure honestly if there’s a Nikon to L mount
Thanks for this well researched video. I own the BMPCC 6K camera and would like to see a review of a suitable monitor to use in bright sun light. I bought a SmallRig cage and a sun hood for the BMPCC 6K screen and still find the screen very hard to read. The camera is for me almost useless outside at present.
Yeah I use the Small HD 702 BRIGHT... the bright series are the good ones for outdoors. Or of course a better value for money would be the ATOMOS Shogun 7 which is now 3000 Nits
Thanks for that. I will have a look at both items.
Panasonic if you're listening, please offer 12 bit Raw, even if it's only possible in HD. Color bit depth is far more important than resolution.
I hope they are listening.. and yes Bit depth is more important than resolution to me as well
As always great video! I’m seriously thinking of getting the S1 seeing that I’m more of a hybrid shooter, although I’m interested to see the photo capabilities of the S1H as well... do you think raw recording would be available on the S1 too?
Based on what Panasonic said, S1H has an S1 inside of it... i don't think the RAW will be translated to the S1 though, simply for marketing reasons, they'll surely want to focus the S1H as the video centric camera and keep it within that limit in order to push for it. Unless they release that update for S1 in a very expensive rate... only speculating at the moment
THE DP JOURNEY ya that makes sense from a marketing perspective but it’s nice to dream lol. I would still get the S1 with the external recorder for ProRes though I wonder what the bit rate would be... The S1 only records internally at a max of 150mb? What would it output to the Atomos?
really not sure. I was just testing the S1H now for the focus i photo mode and it's REALLY BAD
Focus hunting all the way, borderline useless to me honestly since i also do photography. So whatch out for that
@@THEDPJOURNEY are you saying the the S1h ia a bad camera for photos ? it makes awful photo ? how is it possible ?
@@davideghizzoni9059 No I'm saying the "Focus System" is useless... haven't tested the picture quality yet. But tried out the focus and it's very ineffective. Keeps on Hunting back and forth... Pretty bad
Z Cam is also "global shutter" makes a big difference if your working with action sequences.
Any news of an updated model of the Atomos Ninja V? Or is it still resonable to get the Ninja V?
Why do you use the Sony a7 iii for your video production rather than the GH5 or BM4k/6k?
Hey Danyal, i use it for 2 reasons: 1- Flawless autofocus, beat any other camera in the same level. 2-Full frame that would throw my background out of focus... since I have a boring background hahaha
I would not be surprised if Panasonic gives us 14bit prores raw. They have in recent months completely shocked everyone with the tremendous AF updates to their GH5 and giving the G9 4K 30p 4:2:2 10bit internal that is absolutely insane. I however will stick with my z6 and wait for the Prores raw update. I’m more than happy with the 12bit color depth and 4K 30p. The z6 right now is extremely discounted I see them on eBay without ftz adapter for $1300 that’s insane! Add an atamos to the gig for another $600 plus $200 for SSD and you have a monster video camera AND most importantly to me a camera that can actually AF decently, and if you ever want to take a quick picture you have an incredible photography camera right there with a flip of a switch. To me the z6 is a no brainer I have not tried the 1080 120p but I suspect that in a prores raw 12bit package even the 1080 will look beautiful.
I agree.. Pana always offer very substantial updates to their cameras. Let's hope!
Greetings, is 12bit raw exclusive to the Ninja V, Or can we use a Samsung T5 for example? thank you kindly in advance.
Only on the Ninja
What video editing software do you use?
Hey buddy. I use FCPX
have you gotten a z cam f6 yet? we will love to hear your review on it!
I actually reached out to them with no answer. I’ll try again
good job
Cheers
You left one thing out in the video. 12 bit linear isnt the same as 12 bit log raw which is what the BM has. The equivalent in 12 log raw for linear is 16 bit. Thats why sony and red uses 16 bit linear. Same reason why the ursa mini unpacks their 12 bit raw file to 16 bit linear. I hope this makes sense. 12 bit linear is not ideal for raw but sony was the first to do it I guess. Damn near all of the data is in the highlights and almost none in the shadows. Thats why its best to over expose them shadows :). Dont get me wrong, it does look better and does deliver raw performance. I was just telling people the difference.
Makes totla sense, and I do understand what you're saying. But just curious on where can I find those confirmations on how those sensors are rated as linear or logarithmic in order to understand they're spec claims. Since as you already know there's HUGE diff between Log and Linear
... on another note, I don't think TH-cam is ready for such nerdy details 😆😉
@@THEDPJOURNEY yeah I actually learned it from Alistair Chapman. I had a fs5 for the last 4 years so I ran into all this stuff. Hes the Sony guru and all the figures are on his website. I'll try to drop you these figures
Parallax Peak the EVA1 does 10 bit log raw which as I understand is more or less equivalent to 12 bit linier.
@@stu9000 yeah I don't know the math could be. The big advantage of 12 linear is that you can take the highlights waaaaaaaaaaaaay down. It's so much data stored in the highlights