Rancilio Rocky vs. Smart Pro Grinder | CR Comparison

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  • @SeattleCoffeeGear
    @SeattleCoffeeGear  9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

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  • @playbackamusicloversjourne8620
    @playbackamusicloversjourne8620 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I believe the Breville can be adj by lifting off the bean hopper and there's 10 different adjs there as well which gives you a total of about 600 diff. grind settings.

  • @robertgagnon6621
    @robertgagnon6621 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have owned a Rocky for over 10 years. It has never disappointed me.

  • @julianh1322
    @julianh1322 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nice review. I have the Rocky by Rancilio in use for about ten years now. Since I care all about the freshness of the grind I decided against the doser variant. Paired with a E61 machine (the QuickMill Andreja Premium) it never has let me down. In my opinion the Rocky is a entry level grinder with some high-end internal parts. I would call Its design and appearance is a bit modest but honest after all.

  • @sallunetta7333
    @sallunetta7333 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I just bought the Breville. Its fantastic! I highly recommend it 👍👍👍

  • @PatricksDIY
    @PatricksDIY 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    With the Smart Grinder pro you can adjust the burs and it ultimately has 600 settings "60 settings * 10 burr settings = 600* You can actually get the grind to match the Rancilio :) I mean of course its all about if you feel like going though that

  • @brentroman
    @brentroman 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Could you please do a comparison between the Baratza Sette 270 and the Rancilio Rocky? I'm trying to decide which way to go. Thanks.

  • @MixyDoodle
    @MixyDoodle 9 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Can't you take the upper burr out of the Breville and change it to go even finer/coarser? I imagine it was set at the middle setting. Should have been mentioned...

    • @SeattleCoffeeGear
      @SeattleCoffeeGear  9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +MixyDoodle The Breville does have an adjustable burr, however, it is not intended to be used in this fashion. Here is more information on the adjustable burr: th-cam.com/video/WvDdj1BDqeU/w-d-xo.html

    • @MixyDoodle
      @MixyDoodle 9 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      +Seattle Coffee Gear Appreciate the link, I missed that video when it first came out. That being said, this video sort of implied that the Rocky is a better choice for an espresso grinder (partially because it can grind finer) - but with a small adjustment of a notch or two on the Breville the espresso range would be improved on the Breville. Just saying it would have been worth mentioning.

  • @nathanadkins2654
    @nathanadkins2654 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Now what about the secondary grind setting in the breville through the burrs itd be nice to know where you were set to on that

  • @DCUPtoejuice
    @DCUPtoejuice 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I have had the Breville for 3 years now. It is insanely user friendly and stuff full of common sense with good quality grind. The controls leave nothing to want. After I have made adjustments for a new bean, it is very consistent with grind and mass. I cannot imagine any other product coming close to it at it's price point.

    • @DCUPtoejuice
      @DCUPtoejuice 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      actually I have the older version of the same Breville, just a toc.

  • @geogiokas
    @geogiokas 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, i find your videos very informative. Which grinder would you recommend for turkish?

  • @deanjohn9203
    @deanjohn9203 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello, this review was quite some time ago. Is the Breville Smart Grinder Pro available from your website today, the same machine that you reviewed here? I'm in the market for it and am hoping it'll go on sale. Thanks for all the great reviews you've done!

  • @pjl626
    @pjl626 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Did you notice a significant difference in consistency for the coarse grinds? I have an Espro press and a Chemex for pour over, but I don't make espresso at home, so medium to coarse grind consistency is more important than absolute fineness.

    • @SeattleCoffeeGear
      @SeattleCoffeeGear  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +pjl626 The Breville was more consistent, but you need to remember that it didn't go as course as the Rocky. And the courser you go, the less consistent your grind will be. That being said, we would still recommend the Breville for your brewing needs. We love the Breville for pour over!

    • @Antopc2
      @Antopc2 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm in pretty much the same situation, but i do drip/chemex/cold brew, no espresso, so again, fine control is key, is the smart grinder pro the best grinder for this application or is there a better grinder in the under 400ish$ range (I would like a "programmagble grinder" tho for those mornings...)

  • @michaelsingh843
    @michaelsingh843 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Gail, is there a considerable difference in espresso between the both?

  • @LABABIL
    @LABABIL 9 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I just love Gail! Always a thumbs up!

  • @warrenbailey1079
    @warrenbailey1079 8 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The Brevill has more adjustment to the grinder by removing the bean hopper to access the upper burr

    • @SeattleCoffeeGear
      @SeattleCoffeeGear  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True! But that should be used as the burrs season. Check this out: th-cam.com/video/WvDdj1BDqeU/w-d-xo.html

    • @beachdays561
      @beachdays561 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The extra adjustment is marginal and the grinder does not really like it, my one sounds sketchy when using it with the other setting

  • @kaylarblue
    @kaylarblue 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello, I'm so glad I saw your video.
    I was about to purchase the Breville (Sage in UK) but I needed a grinder that will also produce powder for Turkish coffee.
    Can you recommend a grinder that will produce for espresso, areopress and Turkish please ?
    Many thanks.

  • @johncruzes
    @johncruzes 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi. I have a Silvia. Can I use a Breville Smart or should I wait for a Rocky?

  • @JamesMHey
    @JamesMHey 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Both nice little grinders. I still own my SMART grinder but now i'm in an espresso phase it's been usurped by my Mazzer. My personal take on these two is that if your mostly interested in brewing then the SMART is a good choice but if your buying for use with an espresso machine the Rocky is going to give a little more back.

    • @SeattleCoffeeGear
      @SeattleCoffeeGear  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +JamesMHey Great assessment! While the Breville totally works for espresso, the Rocky has that "heft" you expect in an espresso grinder. Cheers! Thanks for wacthing

  • @AntonioMudge
    @AntonioMudge 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow I just love watching you. So detailed and well spoken.

  • @205gtipunk
    @205gtipunk 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Is there such a thing as a grinder for home use that will do a good espresso grind AND a good French press coarseness. Without breaking the bank? Love the channel Gail x

    • @labronallen7133
      @labronallen7133 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Depends on your bank. And no. Typically once you've done all the work to dial in your espresso, you don't want to screw it up by changing the grind. The best espresso grinders tend to be step less.

  • @Lucatubo69
    @Lucatubo69 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi. I am grinding arabica and I got the breville. I was grinding at 1-2 minimum settings but today the unit broke. IT got stuck and after cleaning up the motor is making a rattling noise. I bought the unit a little over a month ago. Breville will replace the unit, but I feel this unit won't stand the future and I will likely sold it as used and get the Rancilio instead.

  • @franciabowen2496
    @franciabowen2496 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love all your videos, Gail

  • @jaymesguy239
    @jaymesguy239 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What could anyone suggest as a good setting (number) on this machine for a Chemex coffee?

  • @retrodudefpv
    @retrodudefpv ปีที่แล้ว

    Sent my Smart Pro back as it developed a fault within a couple of weeks - got a used Rocky, looks like a new one, swapped to new burrs for £140 total. Rocky seems so much more robust especially with direct drive motor compared to the much smaller one in Breville with problematic plastic in the drive gear

  • @Nikosi9
    @Nikosi9 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've had the Rocky for about 10+ years and from day 1, the thing that bothered me most was having to hold down the grinding switch. Well, I figured out that I could easily replace that switch with an on/off rocker switch, which I did and it works perfectly. IIRC, I got the switch in the local hardware store... I neven understood why Rancilio decided to do it the way they do...

  • @fxhood
    @fxhood 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    always grind "a bit" when adjusting mills by large differences. Helps to avoid damages... my 2ct

  • @kieras255
    @kieras255 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm after a grinder for la pavoni pl. I'm wondering if sage will do the job or I need something more precise?

  • @MichaelBrown-kg6ob
    @MichaelBrown-kg6ob 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you speak to how the Breville grinder pro compares to the Rocky when using NON pressurized filter baskets on the Infuser? I struggle getting my pressure up using the Pressurized basket primarily due to a cheap cuisinart burr grinder. Since the rocky produces a finer grind I am wondering if that would be a better choice for espresso shots, however, I like the features of the breville grinder better. Thoughts?

    • @SeattleCoffeeGear
      @SeattleCoffeeGear  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You'll get good results for non-pressurized espresso using either grinder. The Rocky is built very tough, though if you like the Breville's features and you already have the Infuser, that may be the way to go. Ultimately, up to you!

  • @jane-annegilson5646
    @jane-annegilson5646 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Gail, I am a pensioner (78) wanting to buy my first and last espresso machine and burr grinder. I enjoy espresso, aeropress, chemex and moka. Have read up on Breville BES840XL Infuser and watched your video with interest. Now for a grinder which will last and will suit my requirements - at least until I kick the bucket! I understand when making coffee I should use 15grams coffee to 1 cup water. With regard to the Smart Pro Grinder, how much coffee is ground for the 1 cup setting? Or would the Rancilio Rocky be better? Your advice would be appreciated. Incidentally I have watched so many of your videos - all interesting and informative - many thanks. Regards Jane-Anne, Auckland, NZ

    • @SeattleCoffeeGear
      @SeattleCoffeeGear  8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Rocky will last you a good 10-15 years if cleaned and cared for properly. The Breville just doesn't have that lifespan. In your case, the Rocky would be best we think!

  • @allanbesner8200
    @allanbesner8200 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks! I love your videos, they are very informative and gives me great information when I am looking for new equipment!

    • @SeattleCoffeeGear
      @SeattleCoffeeGear  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +allan besner Thanks for watching! You are the best! Spread the word ;D

  • @halimatallah2607
    @halimatallah2607 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Question, which grinder would you recommend for both espresso and french press? Thanks :)

  • @allenmiller2071
    @allenmiller2071 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I didn't think you could adjust the grind size without running the machine.

  • @jaimeperez4698
    @jaimeperez4698 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, which of these two machines do you recommend for a good extra fine grind for Turkish coffee and a coarse grind for French press? thanks for your help

  • @saadbelouafi9005
    @saadbelouafi9005 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi. What do you recommend : breville smart grinder pro or the de'longhi kg 521M grinder?

  • @Soph348
    @Soph348 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, is the pro the same as is in the barista express? And is that the same as the Oracle? Thank you

  • @davidr529
    @davidr529 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi! I'm looking to 'up' my espresso game and was looking to buy a good grinder before going all out on a rocket or something of the sort. I have Brevilles entry level machine currently. Would the breville pro be a solid option for just espresso use?

    • @retrodudefpv
      @retrodudefpv ปีที่แล้ว

      I would think about a used/refurb Rocky if you can find one. Much beefier/more robust item & less to go wrong. Massive direct drive motor compared to Breville's which has plastics in the drive gear. Also, Rocky has 50mm flat burrs, compared to Breville's circa 40/42mm conical - good luck trying to replace full set of burrs on Breville. I bought brand new Smart Pro which unfortunately failed within a couple of weeks ( I'm not suggesting this is common ) but the Rocky definitely seems stronger compared to Breville which always sounded laboured on finer grinds compared to Rocky

    • @davidr529
      @davidr529 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@retrodudefpv Blast from the past! My espresso game has been ‘upped’ ever so slightly over the last few years - now using a synchronika and niche zero :)

  • @KortKramer
    @KortKramer 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have the Smart Grinder Pro and it is an excellent machine. You can further adjust it from it's 60 settings on the dial by adjust the burr itself. It has 10 settings so there are 600 potential grinds. You can make it as coarse of fine as you like. At half the price I feel it is the better machine. Thanks Gail!

    • @Carefreeblues
      @Carefreeblues 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed, I recently purchased the Neville and have no complaints whatsoever.

  • @deanbestall
    @deanbestall 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your videos. Wanted to get the Smart, in the UK we have one made by Sage which looks like the exact same grinder. I liked the timed grind feature on the Smart. I use a Gaggia Classic, will the Smart grind complement the Gaggia Classic well enough? Thanks

    • @SeattleCoffeeGear
      @SeattleCoffeeGear  9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Dean Bestall Thanks for watching! Both of these grinders would work well enough for your machine. But like Gail mentions in the video, the Rocky does have more adjustability when it comes to the grind. Enjoy your new machines! ;D

    • @deanbestall
      @deanbestall 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Seattle Coffee Gear Thanks for the reply. Out of curiosity, there are several other grinders in this price point, did you pick these two for this video because they're the best at their respective price points? The Smart is £200 ($300ish) here in the UK, I'm looking for bang for my buck (pound :p)

    • @SeattleCoffeeGear
      @SeattleCoffeeGear  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Dean Bestall We are on a mission to compare all sorts of coffee gear. Sometimes we choose to compare based on price point or features. But sometimes we compare coffee gear that is suggested in our comment section! Check out this playlist: th-cam.com/play/PLxsjzGY0Fi2ShKXByN3dgUfS9R8N8qMj-.html

    • @mathiaschristensen479
      @mathiaschristensen479 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Breville and Sage is the same company, but they mainly use Sage as brand in Europe and Breville in US. But some Breville branded products have made it to Europe. I work at a retailer selling Sage and Breville stuff (Swedish Dixons/Currys).

    • @mglenn7092
      @mglenn7092 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Breville (home base: Australia) had some kind of corporate branding issue or deal regarding use of the Breville name in Europe (apparently there is or was another company using Breville as a brand name there), so Breville uses the brand-name Sage in Europe. So, yep, it is the same grinder from the same company, just different branding on it.

  • @michaelmacnaughton2417
    @michaelmacnaughton2417 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you need to grind as you change the grind setting for the rocky?

    • @SeattleCoffeeGear
      @SeattleCoffeeGear  9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +michael macnaughton Yes. It's one of those "do as we say not as we do" types of situations :D

    • @michaelmacnaughton2417
      @michaelmacnaughton2417 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Seattle Coffee Gear haha ok, thanks

  • @djp1234
    @djp1234 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey do you guys know if there is a Grind & Brew coffeemaker out there that's made out of stainless steel and glass? Something without any plastic parts touching the coffee. Something that doesn't give you cancer.

    • @melonbarmonster
      @melonbarmonster 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      No one buying these machines would use a grind and brew machine. These grinders start at 300 bucks not to mention the espresso machines. If you don't want glass maybe you can get a Hario hand grinder and a ceramic or glass hand pour device. Keep watching these videos.

  • @allenmiller2071
    @allenmiller2071 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    At the end of the day, which one will last 5 years with daily use. I heard that if the Breville breaks down there are no spare parts and the grinder is then junk.

    • @SeattleCoffeeGear
      @SeattleCoffeeGear  7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      With regular maintenance and cleaning, both of these machines should last that long. However, the Rocky is an absolute workhorse of a grinder. We've had one at our HQ that has never had to have parts replaced and gets super consistent use!

  • @CHARLIEBITESHARD
    @CHARLIEBITESHARD 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It sounds like the breville is working very hard (struggling) to grind those beans.

    • @beachdays561
      @beachdays561 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Would not recommend it for espresso

  • @reidburford8159
    @reidburford8159 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is it possible to put a smart grinder pro hopper on the Barista express? It looks like the same size.

    • @ryno4573
      @ryno4573 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Reid Burford yes

  • @thecatch83
    @thecatch83 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the new format without man hands chiming in every two seconds....Gail you rock!!! I am on the fence between the Rocky and the Baratza Preciso......both have great reviews. One thing to note, my machine is a Rancilio Silvia so I'm leaning towards the Rocky.

  • @orrinbelcher6593
    @orrinbelcher6593 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review

  • @pauldorogoff2110
    @pauldorogoff2110 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Need to list average price

  • @yes9098
    @yes9098 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never give you the thumb’s down since you share so much 😆👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻tq

  • @limer4330
    @limer4330 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can hear that the Rancilio is a more powerful grinder. I wound't mind either but the selling point for me is user serviceability and Rancilio is easy to get parts for and service. I read reviews all the time from people that have owned them for 15 + years which to me is amazing.

    • @lizdc1
      @lizdc1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have had my rock since 2003

    • @ianburton9030
      @ianburton9030 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rocky 140W
      SGP 165W. Tell me again which is the more powerful?

  • @jamoco1
    @jamoco1 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gail, you didn't mention you can alter the grind on the sage by moving the top burr

  • @fabiangenerao7367
    @fabiangenerao7367 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There are more adjustment inside the burr assembly. You just missed it!!!

  • @marklucera6530
    @marklucera6530 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the adjustable burrs on the smart grinder pro dramatically increase the range of grind. I'm surprised that wasn't highlighted at the end. you're not going to change the burr every time but you might want to show folks the coarest and finest grind on the highest and lowest burr settings.

    • @SeattleCoffeeGear
      @SeattleCoffeeGear  9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Mark Lucera Take a look here for more explanation on that adjustable burr: th-cam.com/video/WvDdj1BDqeU/w-d-xo.html

  • @chrisdturner
    @chrisdturner 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Smart grinder isn't 'stepped' as such, it's just that the display only shows 60 grind size values. I've found you can actually make smaller adjustments within each of the displayed values to dial in further if you adjust the dial carefully.

  • @crichtonism
    @crichtonism 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I won't give a thumbs down, cause your videos are awesome, but I was a little disappointed this one. I thought there would be a taste test at the end. I'm a newbie trying to learn and I keep seeing people mention that the grinder is more important than the espresso machine, but seeing grind results isn't the final result... the taste difference is.

    • @jackp9589
      @jackp9589 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you feel good about yourself doing that? The numbers aren’t universal on the grinders so it would be almost impossible to get an exact grind for both. There’s too many variables for that. She’s giving a great review of the grind and functionality of the two products. Now remove that thumbs down

    • @crichtonism
      @crichtonism 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I can't remove something I didn't do. Reread my first sentence.

  • @dancoll8166
    @dancoll8166 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm laughing at @LABABIL's comment, because I love Gail, too! She'll always get a thumbs up with me.

  • @TorbjrnJrgensen
    @TorbjrnJrgensen 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good review. One plus for the Smart Pro is that it sounded quieter at least, but the lack of coarser grind makes me want to stick with the Rocky :)
    One thing I dislike about the Rocky is that I have to abuse it pretty hard to get out the last coffee grinds.
    PS: You still have a very shallow dept of focus on your camera, increasing that should be doable since you have good lighting at your set.

    • @SeattleCoffeeGear
      @SeattleCoffeeGear  9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Torbjørn Jørgensen Cheers! Thanks for the input- but this is the image we prefer (at least for the time being!)

  • @kc2ecd
    @kc2ecd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm confused as to why you compare a $200 grinder to a $400+ grinder.

  • @fredsalfa
    @fredsalfa 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The Rancilio Rocky is twice the price of the Breville though

    • @50drew80
      @50drew80 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The breville also has 10 more settings inside the conical burrs too. Giving a total of 600 different settings

    • @numanuma20
      @numanuma20 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Andrew Radebaugh nice

  • @crookedFC
    @crookedFC 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video - real straight shooting, no waffle #offtobuythebreville but I'm in Australia 🇦🇺

  • @CHARLIEBITESHARD
    @CHARLIEBITESHARD 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your breville will probably break in a few years. The Rocky will last a lifetime. My only complaint with the Rocky is that my burgers seemed to wear down pretty quick. I have to grind at #3 or #2 for espresso. I am not bashing breville, just speaking from experience owning at least four different Breville espresso machines.

  • @msaylorBTC100M
    @msaylorBTC100M ปีที่แล้ว

    Rancillo Rocky will last you for at least 10 years, it is built like a tank

  • @_multiverse_
    @_multiverse_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Breville sounds underpowered

  • @Igor-q3f
    @Igor-q3f ปีที่แล้ว

    Hope the people who collect that coffee for $0.50 a day don’t see you throwing out that coffee.

  • @Micko350
    @Micko350 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nothing like comparing apples with apples!!!

    • @SSchithFoo
      @SSchithFoo 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      More like comparing one apple with 2 apples.

  • @melonbarmonster
    @melonbarmonster 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Smart Pro will last few years and then you'll have to throw it away. The Rocky will last you a lifetime and all parts are replaceable and repairable.

    • @FirstLastOne
      @FirstLastOne 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Always buy the Breville stuff from big box stores that offer extended warranties that way you'll get a new machine or your money back. It's too bad that Breville's QC is hit and miss and that they cut corners where it's gonna cost them FAR MORE THAN IT'S WORTH.

  • @MG-sg4xf
    @MG-sg4xf 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love you! :-)

  • @johndavies5023
    @johndavies5023 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Skip both, spend a little more and get a Eureka Mignon Facile. Breville will most likely not support their plastic when it breaks. Bloated with technology but no substance where it counts.

  • @justinbouchard
    @justinbouchard 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    omg i cannot believe how much coffee you threw away and wasted in this 9 minute video......

  • @fijismart1
    @fijismart1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just watched this...kind of disappointed to see the bias for the Rancilio Rocky....this was not an objective review.