I wish Great Britain had kept at least one of their battleships as a museum ship. The KGV would have made a most grand memorial to all navy men. Shalom
Unfortunately, they just could not afford to and need the scap value of her metal more than they did a muesum ship. But at least the HMS Belfast was retained as a muesum ship and you can visit her on the River Thames in London.
I think that if UK had kept a battleship as a museum ship it would not have been able he KGV. Others had more to offer. My own choice would have been HMS Warspite.
Problem was we (UK) were on our arse, rationing went on for another 9 years. We had a national debt of around £22 Billion pounds and owed the US £3.5 Billion and Canada around £1 Billion so we had to sell off virtually everything unfortunately.
The exploding battleship is HMS Barham. A man that I knew many years ago was blown clear of Barham as she blew up. HMS Rodney’s 16 inch guns did the most damage to Bismarck according to the battle reports to the navy board.
Rodney was commissioned in the early 1920s. She was about the same weight as KGV, had more firepower and excellent armour protection, but speed was sacrificed to achieve this and she was 5 knots slower, possibly more. She was also pretty worn out and on the way for repairs and refit in the USA when she was diverted to fight the Bismarck.
HMS Rodney claimed to have hit Bismark with a torpedo. If true, that would be the only time a battleship torpedoed another battleship. HMS Dreadnought holds the distinction of being the only battleship to sink a submarine. It did so by ramming.
@@philiphumphrey1548 There’s a video on HMS Rodney’s problems with her aging turrets’ bearings loosened by the mighty recoil of her mighty mighty 💪 guns. Like a 90s stud taking viagra on steroids.
Was für ein Bloedsinn. Wo hat die Bismarck geherrscht bzw dominiert? Dieser ganze Bismarckhype geht auf die Nerven.Auf allen Kanälen hier wird sie hochgejubelt. Sie hat nichts gekonnt. Die Hood zu versenken war ein Glückstreffer.Lasst sie endlich ruhen. Es ist nur schade um die Besatzung.
The British didn't even have a description of the ship until Jan 1941, four months before they sunk her. You can't have a 'reign of dominance' when nobody is even aware of your existence.
Not one of her class was saved as a museum ship. I know such a status was uncommon at the time, but it'd be so amazing to see a one of them at the quayside. At least we Americans have ships like Missouri and New Jersey that we can admire and appreciate.
Also we have the only surviving Dreadnaught class Battleship. Texas. She is either done with her overhaul, or very close to it. I am glad we saved as many ships as we have. Though so many more were lost to time...
@@richardhaddock5660 not one of which were of the King George V class. Texas showed that museum ships could be a thing, and we Americans were lucky enough to save several oof our big ship. But not the British, unfortunately. :-(
@@the-trustees Then why watch these videos, can't you spend your time setting up the Witch defenders Association, and make sure you are ready when the time comes.
Bismarck didn't open fire without warning on Hood. The British opened fire first & it was only after a-couple of salvos Bismarck opened fire as they were under order's to avoid Warships.
Near the end, when he says she witnessed the Japanese surrender in Tokyo Bay, he shows an Iowa class battleship (possibly USS Missouri, but I didn't c the hull # nor could I make out if that footage was even in Tokyo Bay 2 begin with) instead of the KGV.
@@juliankremer1900 If you're referring to the one shown around 10:03. That is not the HMS Barham. Barham was equipped with 4 15 inch twin turrets, the one in the footage clearly has Triple turrets. I suspect that it is actually the SMS Szent István, An Austrian battleship that was sunk in 1918, She was equipped with 4 12 inch triple turrets.
HMS Rodney left Bismark pretty much useless as a fighting ship within the 1st 15 mins of the battle. She took out Bismarks A & B turrets with her 4th salvo. She had killed most of the officers on the bridge and also smashed one barrel off a rear main turret rendering it useless before any other ships landed a hit. Bismark had a damaged rudder but was no match for the Rodney and it’s crew. RIP brave sailors on both sides.
It could be interpreted as the ship coming into existence as a future looming threat to the convoys with heavy armor and 15" guns. Lutjens did not command the ship, he was the fleet commander. Bismarck was not in the Arctic when disabled.
@@BenjaminMaerz-um5bc Ahem....oi genius......"Cobblers" is a corruption of "cobbles" - small, round stones - used as a euphemism for testicles, or 'balls'. The phrase has been in use for a long time, and was rather popular during the 1960's due to its use in the old BBC sitcom Steptoe and Son . And it was used by my late and very British Grandfather well up to his death in 2016.
I would consider HMS Vanguard to be Britain’s most powerful battleship. She was bigger and faster than both KGV and Nelson class ships, and had bigger guns than the KGV.
The guns of Vanguard was inferior to KGV because of old shell and less range One the other hand the Guns of KGV were the most accurate guns the British ever had as per third reports the shell was 722 kg and was modern design shell was heavier for it's caliber and had even higher bursting charge than Iowa's guns Which made it the best gun of British Battleship service + kGV had 10 guns so KGV had heavier broadside and bigger firepower than Vanguard and Bismarck
@@Kreatorisbackyttotally wrong! The guns on Vanguard were modernised before they were fitted, this included having their elevation increased from 20 degrees to 30 degrees, giving them a maximum range without superchargers of 33500 yards or with superchargers 37870 yards. The MK1 15inch guns are also regarded as the most accurate guns ever fitted to a battleship
@@marxmcrae wrong it was the turrets that were modernized to allow 30° elevation that was already done by British before WW2 when they modernized Queen elizabeth , Valient , warspite and Renown to have elevation of 30° with 30 km range and this was the range of Vanguard And the Supercharge part is baseless the ship was never provided with superchargers in her carrier other than during trials Supercharges were never used due to high wear to the linings and decreased barrel life even with that the guns had less range of 34 km(not less) but compared to 14 inch guns of KGV class it was less With chargers even KGV had 40km+ range But chargers were never provided to any Battleship Vanguard guns in her carrier had 30 km range Even the KGV
KG5's sister ship, the Prince of Wales, was sunk off Singapore shortly after Dec. 7, 1941 by Japanese bombers while trying to interdict the Japanese invasion of Malaya.
Sister ships with boys names. Why not call them Princess of Wales and Queen Mary? Or are the female names only used for civilian ships like Queen Mary? Women can cat fight like beaches.
Now there's not much left of Prince of Wales or Repulse as Indonesians have been blowing the wrecks apart to get the steel out of them because they were built in the era before the atom bomb and since all the A bomb explosions metal is now tainted and HUGE money is paid for pre A bomb metal. The trouble is PoW and Repulse aren't that far from the surface and divers can easily reach them. HMS Exeter a cruiser has been completely obliterated as has a Dutch Cruiser for there are just two depressions in the sea floor where both ships once rested.
The largest museum warship in the UK is the Town-class light cruiser HMS Belfast, located in the Thames River, London. The UK has a number of other warship museum pieces that reflect her earlier history as the dominate naval power but by the end of WW2, the UK was neither a great naval power nor did it have riches that once poured in from her colonies. In some sense, the light cruiser is a metaphor for the former superpower's station in the world.
@@mikemilner8080 Apart from the USA, and they only became the biggest Navy in 1943, which other country had a navy as big as the UK, at the end of WW?.
Why is it that in every documentary or educational video that talks about/mentions HMS Hood, they ALWAYS try to pass off the video footage of HMS Barham exploding (6:15) as HMS Hood.. I mean, it is the BEST, absolute clearest, and best angle of footage of a modern battleship exploding due to a main battery magazine detonation, but it isn’t HMS Hood, and trying to pass it off as such, not only does all the sailors that died when HMS barham exploded a disservice, but is actually an insult because every time someone tries to pass it off, they’re essentially saying that the sailors that died on HMS hood are better sailors, or that they’re more important than the barham sailors due to the fact that they died on the nations capitol flagship .. most people don’t even know the ship name “HMS Barham”, but they sure as shit know HMS Hood.. sorry, rant over, it just bugs the living shit out of me
Perhaps even Duke of York for her role in the sinking of the Scharnhorst. An admiral described the battle where the Scharnhorst was trying run away and he said "she had the legs on us for the range finders were ticking up and yet we kept firing. Then the range finders steadied and started to tick down", because DoY had fired 14" shells and hit a boiler room on Scharnhorst putting it out of action and causing her speed to drop. "Then we knew we were in with a chance". People poo pooed the 14" shells but DoY 14" shells blew the Krupp armoured steel to smithereens. When Scharnhorst sank the forward magazines blew up so that today nothing in front of the bridge remains. What is there is just a tangled mass of wreckage.
Yep, the KGV class proved very good value for money. I'm not 100% certain, but I'm guessing it would be a fairly safe bet that the KGV class played a significant role in sinking more enemy battleship's than any other class of ship of any nation in the 20th century.
You're doing a Bio of a particular ship or class of ship. There were several KGV class (four, I think) there is enough footage that you could show shots of at least that class when you're taling about it. in the first :30 seconds there are almost as many shots of Hood (the actual pride of the RN) and Rodney (could be Nelson, but probably not) as there are of the KGV. The KGV class was not a secret weapon, there is plenty of footage of the right ship(s). This is just lazy film making and sloppy history. It, along with the overly dramatized narration absolutely undercuts the credibility of the video and the channel.
Yeah, and over playing the capsizing and explosion of the HMS Barham is in poor taste as well. They are getting lazy at Dark Central, seems by every metric, research, writting, editting and production is slipping with each video they put on on their various channels.
The Bismark was on it's maiden Voyage, after a year of trials. HMS Prince of Wales's Ten 14inch guns had a heavier total weight of shot than the Bismark's Eight 15inch guns.
@@garethdavies2538 They were at the beginning of the battle, PoW hit Bismarck with three shots causing the Bismarck to abandon it's mission and run to port, it was only after these hits that the guns on PoW failed because of electrical problems, after a few hours the problem was fixed and she joined the chase for Bismarck.
Wild!, It makes me think of the battlesthe Americans had around the Phillipines. Embarassing as it is I don't know the admiral 's name but his nickname was Chin Lee. Lee was actually from Kentucky and yes he was related to the Virginia Leees. He took out Japan Imperial Battleships with radar accuracy. Great story.
Why almost write out Rodney? She was far more significant in sinking Bismarck. KV5's guns were hardly functioning. Also Bismarck's captain was Lindemann. Lütjens was the squadron commander.
It was actually Rodney that did most of the damage to Bismarck - Had KG5 not been there the outcome would have been the same - Rodney had thicker armour, bigger guns and more of them than Bismarck - PS it is thought a 8" shell from a heavy cruiser Norfolk took out the Bridge
It is one of the great misinformation tasks that the British needed to tell their own people about the sinking of the Bismark. Yes they defeated her decisively but they did not sink her. Divers sometime in the 2000's found her wreck and dove on her. She was sitting upright in the mud at the bottom of the sea. If she had been sunk by torpedo as reported then she would have rolled over and broke apart as she sank to the depths of the ocean. What really happened was the German crew knowing she was defeated opened the sea doors and sank her themselves to keep her out of British hands. That is why her wreck sits upright on the sea floor. From what I read on the findings, almost everything on her upper decks were destroyed, but her hull was remarkably intact.
Very few images of Bismarck and Prinz Eugen; plenty of footage of German cruisers with 11" guns in triple turrets, even footage of an Austro-Hungarian dreadnought - but almost no images of Bismarck...
@bmacd2112 It wasn't a "truly remarkable ship", the only remarkable thing is that people believe that a ship sunk after 8 days at sea, on it's first operational mission was remarkable.
@@anthonysheppard9247 A human would have at least done minimal research on the ship and the battle. Only AI could generate such a wildly inaccurate story.
The late Prince Phillip was an officer on HMS KGV at the surrender in Tokyo Bay , in 1970s he accompanied the late Queen on a State Visit to Japan where he was asked if State Visit was his first visit to Japan.
Funny how that year and half reign of terror was actually only one war operation that last a whole 8 days.......The Dark team must live in a parallel diamension where 8 days equals a year and a half.
It is really annoing to me, that there are huge amounts of pictures that not correspond to the story - Graf Spee sinking in Montevideo, Sharnhorst class triple turrets when talking of Bismarck etc etc
The pictures here do not match the story. The battleship capsizing at 10:03 is the Austro Hungarian battleship Szent Istvan which capsized in June 1918 after being torpedoed by the Italians.
7:11 HMS Prince Of Wales 🏴 hit beastmarck in the bow causing it to trade fuel ⛽️ for 🌊 water thus going vortwarts with wetter & wetter bow, & then the Swordfish going through its rudder, spelt doom at both ends for it. How fitting for a man 🤖 like Lutjens to command such an iron beast. The name Bismarck didn’t bring much luck either to the nazis’ allies on the other side of the world when Allied planes sank a Japanese convoy in the Bismarck Sea.
Please try May 27, 1941. Try using a search engine before you, like King George V, run out of fuel and viewers. I'm always up to a good laugh, and you never disappoint me.
It is a shame they scrapped the King George v battleship they should have kept at least one battleship as a museum piece or kept HMS Rodney very different type of battleship with 3 front 16inch guns that could done the damage to Bismarck
I don't understand Churchill sometimes. Made some really dumb calls, but his people got him out of it and then he took the credit. Why so revered; probably because he wrote so much of the initial post war narrative.
Mainly it was because he spent the majority of the ‘30s telling anyone who would listen that Germany was once again preparing for war and it would be better to counter it earlier rather than later. Unfortunately the interwar years were a time when Churchill was in the political wilderness so very few bothered to listen. Quite a few actually ridiculed him for it. Instead they promoted a policy of appeasement which proved an abject failure. As one of the few politicians to have called it correctly Churchill became a shoe in for Prime Minister once Germany (and Russia) invaded Poland and war was declared.
all the pictures and half of the things you say are just wrong or partial information the bismarck didn't do shit for a year and a half. It was two weeks. Prince of Wales, a sister ship to KGV, had turret issues because it was so new. KGV did not. KGV and the home fleet were sailing around doing convoy escorts and stuff before Bismarck ever did anything. Lutjens was a German admiral. like, can you even get the basics right rather than going for drama all th etime
At the time of its sinking Bismarck WAS the largest battleship (by displacement) in the world. If you're going to ignore the chronology, then simply bypass WW2 and say the Gerald R Ford class nuclear aircraft carriers are the largest warships ever built.
@@davidhudson5452 In May 1941 the UK and US had the largest naval guns in operational service, those being 16" guns. It wasn't until December 1941 when Yamato became operational that she took the title.
I used to notice some mistakes but thought oh well the rest was ok. But this episode is horribly flawed and many important details are left out. While some details are just wrong. I'm deactivating my subscription.
Wrong footage used nearly every time you mention Bismarck. Bismarck's turrrets have 2 guns but you show footage of different battleships having 3 guns in its turrets. 👎
Bismarck had 11" guns and there was no 1 1/2 year of terror, this was Bismarcks first operation and the only ship it ever sunk was HMS Hood. Perhaps a little research would help your credibility as a history site!!!
Bismark and Tirpitz had 15 inch guns. The Scharnhorst class carried 11inch guns. The G5's had supercharged 14inch guns, which in effect were as good as contemporary 15 inch weapons. The shells, being more modern, contained more charge to achieve this.
In fact, the KGVs were significantly more heavily armoured than Bismarck and with a much superior distribution scheme, carried 10 x 14"/45cal main battery guns giving them a heavier o/a broadside than Bismarck's 8 x 15"/52cal weapons and were built to a far more modern design generally. While the RN BB that accompanied KGV in the chase that ended with Bismarck's sinking, HMS Rodney, though built over a decade earlier than either KGV or Bismarck, was also much better designed and to a more modern pattern than Bismarck, carried heavier armour and mounted 9 x 16"/45cal weapons giving her a broadside more than two tonnes heavier than the German BB.
There are huge mistakes in this article It's embarrassing The bismarck was destroyed on it's first mission It had not been around for a year and a half I suggest you do your research properly Also your pronunciation is pathetic
Sister ships with boys names. Why not call them Princess of Wales and Queen Mary? Or are the female names only used for civilian ships like Queen Mary? Women can cat fight like beaches.
I wish Great Britain had kept at least one of their battleships as a museum ship. The KGV would have made a most grand memorial to all navy men. Shalom
Unfortunately, they just could not afford to and need the scap value of her metal more than they did a muesum ship. But at least the HMS Belfast was retained as a muesum ship and you can visit her on the River Thames in London.
I think that if UK had kept a battleship as a museum ship it would not have been able he KGV. Others had more to offer. My own choice would have been HMS Warspite.
Even as a restaurant
Problem was we (UK) were on our arse, rationing went on for another 9 years. We had a national debt of around £22 Billion pounds and owed the US £3.5 Billion and Canada around £1 Billion so we had to sell off virtually everything unfortunately.
@@JimUSCM I knew of veterans eating cat food, if there was a jumper, a suicide it would start a wave of "Su"'s across the area
The exploding battleship is HMS Barham. A man that I knew many years ago was blown clear of Barham as she blew up. HMS Rodney’s 16 inch guns did the most damage to Bismarck according to
the battle reports to the navy board.
Rodney was commissioned in the early 1920s. She was about the same weight as KGV, had more firepower and excellent armour protection, but speed was sacrificed to achieve this and she was 5 knots slower, possibly more. She was also pretty worn out and on the way for repairs and refit in the USA when she was diverted to fight the Bismarck.
HMS Rodney claimed to have hit Bismark with a torpedo. If true, that would be the only time a battleship torpedoed another battleship. HMS Dreadnought holds the distinction of being the only battleship to sink a submarine. It did so by ramming.
Definitely Rodders That Gave It To Jerry
@@philiphumphrey1548
There’s a video on HMS Rodney’s problems with her aging turrets’ bearings loosened by the mighty recoil
of her mighty mighty 💪 guns.
Like a 90s stud taking viagra on steroids.
My grandfather was on Barham at Jutland
0:00 All battleships look terrifying when viewed head on, even the old pre-dreadnoughts...
Thank you team !! ❤
Rodney's gunnery was right on the money almost immediately. Combination of an experienced crew and heavier calibre.
"Bismarck's year and a half long reign of dominance" I didn't even realise Bismarck was afloat that long 😂
Was für ein Bloedsinn. Wo hat die Bismarck geherrscht bzw dominiert? Dieser ganze Bismarckhype geht auf die Nerven.Auf allen Kanälen hier wird sie hochgejubelt. Sie hat nichts gekonnt. Die Hood zu versenken war ein Glückstreffer.Lasst sie endlich ruhen. Es ist nur schade um die Besatzung.
She was sunk on her first voyage.
The British didn't even have a description of the ship until Jan 1941, four months before they sunk her. You can't have a 'reign of dominance' when nobody is even aware of your existence.
This description of what happened is more than wrong!!!!!
"Year and a half," what a load of rubbish, it was sunk on it's first operational mission, that lasted eight days, 8 days.
AWESOME! Just imagine having to go toe to toe with those monsters? What a generation indeed.
KGVand Warspite.They represented the glorious and brilliant era of Royal Navy .
A swordfish released an “ammunition charge”?Would that be a torpedo?
A biplane, of all things, brought the Bismarck to her knees...
Yep. A .303 torpedo.........
Not one of her class was saved as a museum ship. I know such a status was uncommon at the time, but it'd be so amazing to see a one of them at the quayside. At least we Americans have ships like Missouri and New Jersey that we can admire and appreciate.
Also we have the only surviving Dreadnaught class Battleship. Texas. She is either done with her overhaul, or very close to it. I am glad we saved as many ships as we have. Though so many more were lost to time...
@@johnathanjarrett63 Don't forget the only example of the protected cruiser, the Olympia.... She needs a lot of work to stay afloat.
And the Alabama.
All 4 Iowa class, North Carolina, Alabama, and the Texas
@@richardhaddock5660 not one of which were of the King George V class. Texas showed that museum ships could be a thing, and we Americans were lucky enough to save several oof our big ship. But not the British, unfortunately. :-(
The effect of Rodney’s 16 inch guns should not be overlooked.
Nor the fact that the USA farted out many bigger BB's with 16 inch guns.
@@melangellatc1718
Not at the time of this battle they didn't.
That explosion was HMS Barham!
I enjoyed this, thank you. Having said that I know full well that the war was beyond awful. What a world, and we have learnt nothing.
Our disgusting species never learns. Another decade or so and witch burnings may be back. 🙄
@@the-trustees
Then why watch these videos, can't you spend your time setting up the Witch defenders Association, and make sure you are ready when the time comes.
Bismarck didn't open fire without warning on Hood. The British opened fire first & it was only after a-couple of salvos Bismarck opened fire as they were under order's to avoid Warships.
10:03 That's not the Bismarck rolling over - triple gun turrets instead of doubles.
Not the worst one he has done, but plenty of mistakes which you can play a drinking game to 🍷🥂🍾🤪
Near the end, when he says she witnessed the Japanese surrender in Tokyo Bay, he shows an Iowa class battleship (possibly USS Missouri, but I didn't c the hull # nor could I make out if that footage was even in Tokyo Bay 2 begin with) instead of the KGV.
Yeah, the battleship that he kept showing (that was capsizing) was the HMS Barham.
That was the HMS Barham.
@@juliankremer1900 If you're referring to the one shown around 10:03. That is not the HMS Barham. Barham was equipped with 4 15 inch twin turrets, the one in the footage clearly has Triple turrets. I suspect that it is actually the SMS Szent István, An Austrian battleship that was sunk in 1918, She was equipped with 4 12 inch triple turrets.
My Dad was on KGV in the early 50s.
We have a crew photograph and he’s the only one looking the wrong way!
HMS Rodney left Bismark pretty much useless as a fighting ship within the 1st 15 mins of the battle. She took out Bismarks A & B turrets with her 4th salvo. She had killed most of the officers on the bridge and also smashed one barrel off a rear main turret rendering it useless before any other ships landed a hit. Bismark had a damaged rudder but was no match for the Rodney and it’s crew. RIP brave sailors on both sides.
Also took out Bismark’s fire control system and range finder
Had KG5 not been there the outcome would have been the same
Where did the complete and utter load of old cobblers about the 1 1/2 year dominance of Bismarck come from?
Not the worst one he has done, but plenty of mistakes which you can play a drinking game to 🍷🥂🍾🤪
It could be interpreted as the ship coming into existence as a future looming threat to the convoys with heavy armor and 15" guns. Lutjens did not command the ship, he was the fleet commander. Bismarck was not in the Arctic when disabled.
1 voyage
An utter load? And it's codgers not cobblers. A real genius
@@BenjaminMaerz-um5bc Ahem....oi genius......"Cobblers" is a corruption of "cobbles" - small, round stones - used as a euphemism for testicles, or 'balls'. The phrase has been in use for a long time, and was rather popular during the 1960's due to its use in the old BBC sitcom Steptoe and Son .
And it was used by my late and very British Grandfather well up to his death in 2016.
I would consider HMS Vanguard to be Britain’s most powerful battleship. She was bigger and faster than both KGV and Nelson class ships, and had bigger guns than the KGV.
The guns of Vanguard was inferior to KGV because of old shell and less range
One the other hand the Guns of KGV were the most accurate guns the British ever had as per third reports the shell was 722 kg and was modern design shell was heavier for it's caliber and had even higher bursting charge than Iowa's guns
Which made it the best gun of British Battleship service
+ kGV had 10 guns so KGV had heavier broadside and bigger firepower than Vanguard and Bismarck
@@Kreatorisbackyttotally wrong!
The guns on Vanguard were modernised before they were fitted, this included having their elevation increased from 20 degrees to 30 degrees, giving them a maximum range without superchargers of 33500 yards or with superchargers 37870 yards.
The MK1 15inch guns are also regarded as the most accurate guns ever fitted to a battleship
@@marxmcrae wrong it was the turrets that were modernized to allow 30° elevation that was already done by British before WW2 when they modernized Queen elizabeth , Valient , warspite and Renown to have elevation of 30° with 30 km range and this was the range of Vanguard
And the Supercharge part is baseless the ship was never provided with superchargers in her carrier other than during trials
Supercharges were never used due to high wear to the linings and decreased barrel life even with that the guns had less range of 34 km(not less) but compared to 14 inch guns of KGV class it was less
With chargers even KGV had 40km+ range
But chargers were never provided to any Battleship
Vanguard guns in her carrier had 30 km range
Even the KGV
KG5's sister ship, the Prince of Wales, was sunk off Singapore shortly after Dec. 7, 1941 by Japanese bombers while trying to interdict the Japanese invasion of Malaya.
Sister ships with boys names.
Why not call them Princess of Wales and Queen Mary?
Or are the female names only used for civilian ships like Queen Mary?
Women can cat fight like beaches.
@@flickingbollocks5542 Not male names only, there was battleship HMS Queen Elizabeth and during WWI HMS Queen Mary and HMS Princess Royal.
@@robertf3479 That's true.
And I forgot about of the new aircraft carriers.
@@flickingbollocks5542 That Queen Elizabeth was the second ship to carry that name
Now there's not much left of Prince of Wales or Repulse as Indonesians have been blowing the wrecks apart to get the steel out of them because they were built in the era before the atom bomb and since all the A bomb explosions metal is now tainted and HUGE money is paid for pre A bomb metal. The trouble is PoW and Repulse aren't that far from the surface and divers can easily reach them. HMS Exeter a cruiser has been completely obliterated as has a Dutch Cruiser for there are just two depressions in the sea floor where both ships once rested.
KJ V should have been converted to a museum if that was sustainable. The ship was legendary after the sinking of Bismark.
The largest museum warship in the UK is the Town-class light cruiser HMS Belfast, located in the Thames River, London. The UK has a number of other warship museum pieces that reflect her earlier history as the dominate naval power but by the end of WW2, the UK was neither a great naval power nor did it have riches that once poured in from her colonies. In some sense, the light cruiser is a metaphor for the former superpower's station in the world.
@@mikemilner8080
Apart from the USA, and they only became the biggest Navy in 1943, which other country had a navy as big as the UK, at the end of WW?.
This better blow my mind!
I did feel a slight breeze, but mistook that for the story sucking wind.
Not the worst one he has done, but plenty of mistakes which you can play a drinking game to 🍷🥂🍾🤪
Why is it that in every documentary or educational video that talks about/mentions HMS Hood, they ALWAYS try to pass off the video footage of HMS Barham exploding (6:15) as HMS Hood.. I mean, it is the BEST, absolute clearest, and best angle of footage of a modern battleship exploding due to a main battery magazine detonation, but it isn’t HMS Hood, and trying to pass it off as such, not only does all the sailors that died when HMS barham exploded a disservice, but is actually an insult because every time someone tries to pass it off, they’re essentially saying that the sailors that died on HMS hood are better sailors, or that they’re more important than the barham sailors due to the fact that they died on the nations capitol flagship .. most people don’t even know the ship name “HMS Barham”, but they sure as shit know HMS Hood.. sorry, rant over, it just bugs the living shit out of me
I really wish the British had the foresight to safe HMS King George 5th or even HMS Warspite.
Perhaps even Duke of York for her role in the sinking of the Scharnhorst. An admiral described the battle where the Scharnhorst was trying run away and he said "she had the legs on us for the range finders were ticking up and yet we kept firing. Then the range finders steadied and started to tick down", because DoY had fired 14" shells and hit a boiler room on Scharnhorst putting it out of action and causing her speed to drop. "Then we knew we were in with a chance". People poo pooed the 14" shells but DoY 14" shells blew the Krupp armoured steel to smithereens. When Scharnhorst sank the forward magazines blew up so that today nothing in front of the bridge remains. What is there is just a tangled mass of wreckage.
Yep, the KGV class proved very good value for money. I'm not 100% certain, but I'm guessing it would be a fairly safe bet that the KGV class played a significant role in sinking more enemy battleship's than any other class of ship of any nation in the 20th century.
At 9:40 the narrator said "Captain Lutjens". He was Admiral Lutjens. We keep seeing footage of the wrong ships the narrator was talking about.
Right, Bismarck's captains name was Lindemann.
Go find actual footage of the ships you are nitpicking about and make your own video.
You're doing a Bio of a particular ship or class of ship. There were several KGV class (four, I think) there is enough footage that you could show shots of at least that class when you're taling about it. in the first :30 seconds there are almost as many shots of Hood (the actual pride of the RN) and Rodney (could be Nelson, but probably not) as there are of the KGV. The KGV class was not a secret weapon, there is plenty of footage of the right ship(s). This is just lazy film making and sloppy history. It, along with the overly dramatized narration absolutely undercuts the credibility of the video and the channel.
Yeah, and over playing the capsizing and explosion of the HMS Barham is in poor taste as well. They are getting lazy at Dark Central, seems by every metric, research, writting, editting and production is slipping with each video they put on on their various channels.
Whine whine whine
Have to remember that some of the film is because there maybe no footage of what they are talking about so get fortage that will give you an idea .
this is generally how i see it too
The Bismark was on it's maiden Voyage, after a year of trials. HMS Prince of Wales's Ten 14inch guns had a heavier total weight of shot than the Bismark's Eight 15inch guns.
They did have a heavier weight of shot than Bismark's when all turrets were functioning, which wasn't the case for most of the battle.
@@garethdavies2538
They were at the beginning of the battle, PoW hit Bismarck with three shots causing the Bismarck to abandon it's mission and run to port, it was only after these hits that the guns on PoW failed because of electrical problems, after a few hours the problem was fixed and she joined the chase for Bismarck.
@11:19 have those two fighting with bayonets while wearing hoods over their heads.. anyone know?
What a shame that she was scrapped, She deserved a place at any maritime museum 😞
The original design of the USS North Carolina called for 12-14" guns in 3 Quad turrets. It was later changed to 9-16".
Wild!, It makes me think of the battlesthe Americans had around the Phillipines. Embarassing as it is I don't know the admiral 's name but his nickname was Chin Lee. Lee was actually from Kentucky and yes he was related to the Virginia Leees. He took out Japan Imperial Battleships with radar accuracy. Great story.
Admiral Willis A Lee Jr, arguably the USN's finest surface action commander.
Why almost write out Rodney? She was far more significant in sinking Bismarck. KV5's guns were hardly functioning. Also Bismarck's captain was Lindemann. Lütjens was the squadron commander.
Fish oil factories were essential to the German war effort…. Anyway, notwithstanding that oddity I will definitely continue watching.
It was actually Rodney that did most of the damage to Bismarck - Had KG5 not been there the outcome would have been the same - Rodney had thicker armour, bigger guns and more of them than Bismarck - PS it is thought a 8" shell from a heavy cruiser Norfolk took out the Bridge
One has to commend the narrator's loyalty to this ship, but is the story accurate?
My a uncle was on HMS Rodney during this action
It is one of the great misinformation tasks that the British needed to tell their own people about the sinking of the Bismark. Yes they defeated her decisively but they did not sink her. Divers sometime in the 2000's found her wreck and dove on her. She was sitting upright in the mud at the bottom of the sea. If she had been sunk by torpedo as reported then she would have rolled over and broke apart as she sank to the depths of the ocean. What really happened was the German crew knowing she was defeated opened the sea doors and sank her themselves to keep her out of British hands. That is why her wreck sits upright on the sea floor. From what I read on the findings, almost everything on her upper decks were destroyed, but her hull was remarkably intact.
Sad she couldn't have become a museum ship.
Very few images of Bismarck and Prinz Eugen; plenty of footage of German cruisers with 11" guns in triple turrets, even footage of an Austro-Hungarian dreadnought - but almost no images of Bismarck...
I lost count of the number of times Graf Spee was shown instead of Bismark.
OOPS! I thought I was watching a new Sabaton video for a bit there
Heaven forbid!
If the iowa class battleships were in the atlantic that thing would have went down so fast you would have missed it
What, faster than Rodney?, anyway the Iowas would have been two years too late, but don't worry HMS Rodney ripped it to shreds. Thanks anyway.
Such a short lifespan for a truly remarkable ship.
@bmacd2112
It wasn't a "truly remarkable ship", the only remarkable thing is that people believe that a ship sunk after 8 days at sea, on it's first operational mission was remarkable.
Just a question ,,is the narrator a real person or a i
Just AI...
@@sirsmeal3192 I was wondering,
@@anthonysheppard9247
A human would have at least done minimal research on the ship and the battle. Only AI could generate such a wildly inaccurate story.
AI= Artificial Idiot.
His name is Robert Beltram. He played commander Chekotay on the TV series " Star Trek Voyager."
The late Prince Phillip was an officer on HMS KGV at the surrender in Tokyo Bay , in 1970s he accompanied the late Queen on a State Visit to Japan where he was asked if State Visit was his first visit to Japan.
No he wasn't, he was on HMS Whelp a destroyer at the surrender in Tokyo Bay.
No. I invaded in 1945😂
Why use the term charges instead of torpedoes?
Stupidity?
Damn, ole girl got tossed out in the end.
21 inch charges? Left the tubes? Come on you guys used to put up quality stuff
Not any more sadly........remember the early days pre-voice over narration?
It's a shame that more nations don't practice the philosophy of Museum Ships
This is just terrible. Year and a half reign of terror?
Funny how that year and half reign of terror was actually only one war operation that last a whole 8 days.......The Dark team must live in a parallel diamension where 8 days equals a year and a half.
It is really annoing to me, that there are huge amounts of pictures that not correspond to the story - Graf Spee sinking in Montevideo, Sharnhorst class triple turrets when talking of Bismarck etc etc
The pictures here do not match the story. The battleship capsizing at 10:03 is the Austro Hungarian battleship Szent Istvan which capsized in June 1918 after being torpedoed by the Italians.
7:11
HMS Prince Of Wales 🏴 hit beastmarck in the bow causing it to trade fuel ⛽️ for 🌊 water
thus going vortwarts with wetter & wetter bow, & then the Swordfish going through its rudder, spelt doom at both ends for it.
How fitting for a man 🤖 like Lutjens to command such an iron beast.
The name Bismarck didn’t bring
much luck either to the nazis’ allies on the other side of the world
when Allied planes sank a Japanese convoy in the Bismarck Sea.
He makes several movies of only the famous ships.
Please try May 27, 1941. Try using a search engine before you, like King George V, run out of fuel and viewers. I'm always up to a good laugh, and you never disappoint me.
Not the worst one he has done, but plenty of mistakes which you can play a drinking game to 🍷🥂🍾🤪
@@flickingbollocks5542 Spam
I don't understand your comment.
Both KGV and Rodney fought Bismarck, and watched Bismarck sinking as they left.
The first supposed picture of Bismarck's main battery turret was a 3 gun turret, Bismarck had 2 gun turrets!!!
You forgot the Scharnhorst ?
It is a shame they scrapped the King George v battleship they should have kept at least one battleship as a museum piece or kept HMS Rodney very different type of battleship with 3 front 16inch guns that could done the damage to Bismarck
It took a whole fleet and the RAF to take down one German ship and still took losses.
Not the worst one he has done, but plenty of mistakes which you can play a drinking game to 🍷🥂🍾🤪
German captain! Battle hardened? Battle hardened? When?
You forgot to include in the photos the sailboat and tugboat versions of this battleship.
I don't understand Churchill sometimes. Made some really dumb calls, but his people got him out of it and then he took the credit.
Why so revered; probably because he wrote so much of the initial post war narrative.
Mainly it was because he spent the majority of the ‘30s telling anyone who would listen that Germany was once again preparing for war and it would be better to counter it earlier rather than later.
Unfortunately the interwar years were a time when Churchill was in the political wilderness so very few bothered to listen. Quite a few actually ridiculed him for it. Instead they promoted a policy of appeasement which proved an abject failure. As one of the few politicians to have called it correctly Churchill became a shoe in for Prime Minister once Germany (and Russia) invaded Poland and war was declared.
So revered because under his leadership the UK survived to be able to write the post war narrative.....
HMS Rodney and Nelson had nine 16" guns forward much more power than Bismarck
When are engineers gonna learn that calling a ship unsinkable, will inevitably lead to its demise on its first trip/battle lmao😂🤦♂️🤷♂️👍
and of course KGV's sister ship HMS Prince of Wales fit on Bismarck was to all intents and purposes mission kill
HMS Hood fired the first shot, not KMS Bismarck.
Pretty sure this is an audio-bot. The voice is on many TH-cam shorts and mispronounces many terms, and would fail a gramnar test.
Possibly Alien, A Grey?
What.makesyouthink.that?
Poor Austin. He's been accused of being AI for years😂
Pity your fail a spelling test for Grammer.
These folks are a little loose with the history and with the photos ...
Was it over when the Germans attacked Pearl Harbour?
A little loose??????? That is like saying an extreemly active 80 year old hooker is a little loose........
It was no more a giant battleship any other battleship.
Yes they are; HMS Barham gets plenty of film.
@@crazygame2724 once is too much if you ask me.
all the pictures and half of the things you say are just wrong or partial information
the bismarck didn't do shit for a year and a half. It was two weeks. Prince of Wales, a sister ship to KGV, had turret issues because it was so new. KGV did not. KGV and the home fleet were sailing around doing convoy escorts and stuff before Bismarck ever did anything. Lutjens was a German admiral. like, can you even get the basics right rather than going for drama all th etime
Tubby 😂😂
Dark seas, this episode isn't just wrong, it's visually incorrect as well. Do better, you're losing viewers
Japan built the biggest Battleship
Yeah, he should've specified that Bismarck was the largest battleship built by a European country, not the world.
@@juliankremer1900 Yep
At the time of its sinking Bismarck WAS the largest battleship (by displacement) in the world. If you're going to ignore the chronology, then simply bypass WW2 and say the Gerald R Ford class nuclear aircraft carriers are the largest warships ever built.
@@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 Who had the biggest guns in ww2
@@davidhudson5452 In May 1941 the UK and US had the largest naval guns in operational service, those being 16" guns.
It wasn't until December 1941 when Yamato became operational that she took the title.
I used to notice some mistakes but thought oh well the rest was ok. But this episode is horribly flawed and many important details are left out. While some details are just wrong. I'm deactivating my subscription.
Not the worst one he has done, but plenty of mistakes which you can play a drinking game to 🍷🥂🍾🤪
I've never ever thought about subscribing to this useless channel.
I only watch it for the comedy of errors.
@@philhawley1219me too. Surely that is the reason to watch this channel.
lol big time
I'm noticing the same thing
Still utterly nothing and overmatched by the Iowa Class…
Apart from the Yamato the King George V had the most armor of any capital ship
Wrong footage used nearly every time you mention Bismarck. Bismarck's turrrets have 2 guns but you show footage of different battleships having 3 guns in its turrets. 👎
So many wrong photos. Ruins all belief in the voice over! Can we trust any of this for accuracy?
Bismarck had 11" guns and there was no 1 1/2 year of terror, this was Bismarcks first operation and the only ship it ever sunk was HMS Hood. Perhaps a little research would help your credibility as a history site!!!
Bismark and Tirpitz had 15 inch guns. The Scharnhorst class carried 11inch guns. The G5's had supercharged 14inch guns, which in effect were as good as contemporary 15 inch weapons. The shells, being more modern, contained more charge to achieve this.
What?
In fact, the KGVs were significantly more heavily armoured than Bismarck and with a much superior distribution scheme, carried 10 x 14"/45cal main battery guns giving them a heavier o/a broadside than Bismarck's 8 x 15"/52cal weapons and were built to a far more modern design generally. While the RN BB that accompanied KGV in the chase that ended with Bismarck's sinking, HMS Rodney, though built over a decade earlier than either KGV or Bismarck, was also much better designed and to a more modern pattern than Bismarck, carried heavier armour and mounted 9 x 16"/45cal weapons giving her a broadside more than two tonnes heavier than the German BB.
This description of the fight is rotten, didn't even explain the aircraft carrier that sent sword fish the disabled the rutters.
Bismarck didn’t have a year and a half of dominance. She was only on her first wartime cruise. Stopped watching at that whopper.
This guy ....This piece is for entertainment , I would NOT recommend any of these works for a term paper. This channel is not top 5 .
Don’t like it move along snowflake
It was ot the most feared ship in the world, cut the stupid drama !
Most people in the world only ever heard of it AFTER it was sunk. It was sunk after 8 days, on it's first operational mission, EIGHT DAYS.
Soooo much info in this is misrepresented and Not accurate.
Omg…
This is sad, if I’m honest.
🤯😳🤨😔🧐
USSR not Russia
There are huge mistakes in this article It's embarrassing The bismarck was destroyed on it's first mission It had not been around for a year and a half I suggest you do your research properly Also your pronunciation is pathetic
More AI gibberish
This is a load of bullshit.
Churchhill was a petty little man that cared nothing for the loss of life. All he wanted was to claim honor for what others did
Sister ships with boys names.
Why not call them Princess of Wales and Queen Mary?
Or are the female names only used for civilian ships like Queen Mary?
Women can cat fight like beaches.
Nope. Ships Are by tradition female, despite bearing male names.
@@marekstanek112 I rather ride a female.
Do modern ships have preferred pronouns?