This version of the level is from before the 2020 update. The official unnerfed version by Sailent & Icedcave, which was uploaded recently, has 2 extra frame perfects - 360 FPS at 15% and 60 FPS at 32%
Between FPS values, the height/distance of the jump stays the same. However, higher fps means that you can click in between 60fps frames, so the exact location of your jump can start at a different X value. Because if this, those jumps are impossible on 60fps, since the x value you need to click at is impossible to reach on lower framerates. In the "nerfdate," inputs that are impossible on 60hz are moves so that they are possible, but the size of the jump remains unchanged.
Hey, just a question. How do these top players pass 360fps frame perfect jumps consistently? Whenever I pass these jumps, it's only because of luck. I can't imagine my brain being able to execute timings that literally only have a window of 2.8 milliseconds or something.
@@vedantsridhar8378because they sometimes have more than 360 fps and they have been playing for years and have keyboards/mouse with instant reaction time.
However if you are playing on 360fps there will always be a 360fps FP there, that's why sometimes lower fps actually makes thing easier if you are lucky
@@niceuuuuuu I think he knows, what he was pointing out is that the difficulty of some timings depend on previous inputs that change the frame alignment because there are different ways to enter the speed portal(s), which can be earlier or later
At least a level with consistent difficulty, even if it's Top 1 difficulty is easier than a level with a few seconds of super easy 2-star level parts and then suddenly bursts of frame perfects. The reason is that your brain gets adjusted to a certain difficulty level, but the continuous rapid changes in difficulty is hard to get used to in like an instant. Same reason why I'm still scared of the Stereo Madness triple spike even though I'm into hard demon levels. Also same reason why Vision had 800K+ attempts on this level. Getting consistent at it is almost impossible, you need to use your brain power for every single run.
@@gdstar6917 He did one video which showed the 115,144,240 FPs on final fantasy but there hasn’t been any showcases that showed the different fps for any others except maybe 1
The fact that sailent most likely had zero way to verify that the 144 and 360 fps frame perfects are physically possible will never not be funny to me.
i remember when stuff like sonic wave, bloodbath were one of the hardest at the time now, bloodbath? legacy for a long time sonic wave? extended list now and now, there is this, wtf is this lmao
yea, 60 fps frame perfects don’t show difficulty that well, by that standard, mayhem (12) is harder than abyss of darkness (3) and necropolis is harder than allegiance and slaughterhouse is harder than Acheron
This is actually insane. The amount of frame perfects between all of these refresh rates is insane. I didn't know that there were no frame perfects on the 8 Jumps of Hell for 360 FPS. 144 FPS is just mind boggling to see in this comparison.
@@exiled_shadegd “safari could not open the page because it could not establish a secure connection to the server” THE WEBSITE IS STILL DOWN 🙄 but yes that first ship is very notable as well since it is the hardest ship section out of any in all rated levels iirc (and the unnerfed one is even harder) also do you think unnerfed silent clubstep is harder than unbugged TTV?
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@@zVision_ i have a question, why is are the speed portals not aligned so it’s consistent? (like in the recent update to the level) wouldn’t it make the level considerably harder/easier?
@@plasmuds_ its impossible to align speed portals to be consistent. some attempts you can hit a portal 0.01 seconds later than a different attempt. This has the possibility of switching a timing by 1 frame, but the level will always be possible (atleast on 360fps)
Rip 2.2 that’s means if you want to beat this legit not by the list rules but by the official games rules you would have to do the 11 frame perfects since fps bypass is not allowed anymore
This is what Letim GD wishes he was Good showcase, especially considering how I feel like I was actually given insight on the difficulty of Unnerfed SC
@@exiled_shadegd all the levels he showcases are possible on 60/120/144, no reason to go higher. Most levels are possible on 60 and there would be no reason to use anything higher.
@@me-di2ol i understand but I wish that it showed 144, 240 and/or 360 frame perfects, depending on the level, like I'd like to know if azure flare had 240 frame perfects
Is it possible a frame perfect change if for example a 144fps fp jump is placed 2,25 blocks forward or is there some other things that change the exact same frame perfect if it is placed to a different place of the level but it hasn't been moved on the y-axis, for example the speedchanges? Hard to explain correctly what am I trying to ask but I hope someone gets the point.
With the 144 fps frame perfect does that mean that lower then that is possible and higher is not or the other way round, cause i did the first 2 on 60 fps on mobile and above on pc with 165 fps.
How is something frame perfect in a higher refresh rate and not in the lower categories? Like for instance, why aren’t all the 360 frame perfect instances also instances of the 144 and 60Hz?
i got 5 percent on silent clubstep and that first jump after the blue or spam i didn't even know was frame perfect for me. i managed to one attempt it and i've never gotten it since😂
@@makak3553in the nerfed version which was verified , the jumps are 60 fps frame perfect but in the real/unnerfed version,they are 360fps frame perfects.
My second question: I have tested the two first Sc jumps on 144fps and 360fps, but on both framerates it has only one frame to jump on the second jump, 1/144 and 1/360. So does this mean the second jump is 360fp but at the same time it is 144fp?
This version of the level is from before the 2020 update. The official unnerfed version by Sailent & Icedcave, which was uploaded recently, has 2 extra frame perfects - 360 FPS at 15% and 60 FPS at 32%
ta' bien 👍
@@srguillester1274 omg guys the totally real srguillester
Good thing that icedcave didn't show percentage or progress bar in the level
360 WHAT?!
lets give it an extra 3 chocolatey bocotey frame perfecteys 🤓
1:22 bro started playing a roblox tycoon 🙏
bro cobs comment is not top
Frrr
This made me wheeze
Awesome
lol
I had no idea those two spike columns were 360hz perfects. Such a simple design to create as well!
I was wondering why I can't get past the jumps in 60hz now I know
@@N0N.o i did but it might has to to with frame alignment
@@haros2868 then its not 360 fps frame perfect then right?
Between FPS values, the height/distance of the jump stays the same. However, higher fps means that you can click in between 60fps frames, so the exact location of your jump can start at a different X value. Because if this, those jumps are impossible on 60fps, since the x value you need to click at is impossible to reach on lower framerates. In the "nerfdate," inputs that are impossible on 60hz are moves so that they are possible, but the size of the jump remains unchanged.
@@AK_804 No it still is. It’s just that the one frame you need to click on 360 happens to align with a frame on 60.
1:22 is literally the 60hz killer
honestly that part is the reason why I get at least 50 additional attempts on practice mode
Every single jump is an fp lol
im 60hz- oh no D:
and the 1:28 is the 144hz killer
Which means 0:37 is the 360hz killer
Everyone gangsta until the ship has a frame prefect
A ship frame perfect has to be the worst thing possible
I heard avernus has one
eyes in the water has 16 lmao@Guy_drip
@@Guy_dripwhat doesn’t avernus have
POV: eyes in the water
this goes crazy vision i like the showcase with frame perfect counters. Good job!! 🎉
Yooooo heartbeat guy
@@MagmaGMD412 ik
I love how the sound of the 144hz frame perfect triggers the fight-or-flight response
he literally beat the level on three different refresh rates to make this video, respect!
Waiting for someone to not get the joke
skilled asf
so pro 😍
@@anaclarissabandico6309 delete your reply genius
Dude you're so stupid this is literaly a showcase of course he didn't beat it 3 times JUST to show how many frame perfects it has
360fps should have been a vine boom sound effect
Hey, just a question. How do these top players pass 360fps frame perfect jumps consistently? Whenever I pass these jumps, it's only because of luck. I can't imagine my brain being able to execute timings that literally only have a window of 2.8 milliseconds or something.
@@vedantsridhar8378because they sometimes have more than 360 fps and they have been playing for years and have keyboards/mouse with instant reaction time.
@@redreaper384 sayodevice moment
also the fact that this is the unnerfed version; in the nerfed version they are 60 fps frame perfects instead.
@@redreaper384 i dont think over 360 fps is allowed on the demonlist
You know a level is hard when a ship part has frame perfects
360 FPS FPs exist only sometimes, it depends on which frame you did the jumps with speed changes before.
However if you are playing on 360fps there will always be a 360fps FP there, that's why sometimes lower fps actually makes thing easier if you are lucky
Well then we are playing lucky draw not silent clubstep
@@prismatic7839 luck is still a factor no matter the level
@@niceuuuuuu only problem is that the ship gets progressively more difficult the lower fps you go, which is probably harder than the pyramid jumps
@@niceuuuuuu I think he knows, what he was pointing out is that the difficulty of some timings depend on previous inputs that change the frame alignment because there are different ways to enter the speed portal(s), which can be earlier or later
"The hardest part is the most frame perfect part"
Silent clubstep: nuh uh
Definitely the most balanced level ever
Nah the level would be top 1 if the last 20% wasn't free
@@GOOFBALL-js4pv? It’s top 1 even if you remove the last 20%
@@user-dh8oi2mk4fYeah if its unnerfed nerfed SC
@@Red_axolotl-jb7ew the video title literally says Unnerfed in all caps
@@user-dh8oi2mk4f my Dumbahh though you were talking about nerfed sc
Kinda wild how hard this looks fr. Can’t wait for the day someone verifies this beast!
hi ashley
@@Cobgd found ya
@@Cobgd whenever I look at your pfp I gain no feelings and have a headache
Wait, isn't that a completion9
@@nhantnt 2hat
Cool showcase, I know you’ll beat one or both of the versions someday
He’s not beating the new version
@@EMOJlZhe’ll beat the old one and then ratio paqoe’s dumbahh
@@wd.1278just beat the new one tho
@@mrpoopybuttface this is his chance to beat the old one, now actually make the real silent club step come back
It has less frame perfects than i thought, but also alot harder frame perfects than i thought
It's carried heavily by the Predrop
@@fillerchannel0no, that is just the nerfed ver cuz the unnerfed one has 8 unnerfed joh
At least a level with consistent difficulty, even if it's Top 1 difficulty is easier than a level with a few seconds of super easy 2-star level parts and then suddenly bursts of frame perfects. The reason is that your brain gets adjusted to a certain difficulty level, but the continuous rapid changes in difficulty is hard to get used to in like an instant. Same reason why I'm still scared of the Stereo Madness triple spike even though I'm into hard demon levels. Also same reason why Vision had 800K+ attempts on this level. Getting consistent at it is almost impossible, you need to use your brain power for every single run.
@@noobmaster1484I’m pretty sure the predrop is still way harder
ship frame perfect💀
0:26 start
I’ve been waiting for an fp counter like this to come out. I think it really does help show the extent of a level’s timings
Also taco bell?
hehehe
Yeat
What do you mean you have been waiting for an frame perfect counter like this? LeTim [GD] has been making videos like this for 9 months
@@gdstar6917 He did one video which showed the 115,144,240 FPs on final fantasy but there hasn’t been any showcases that showed the different fps for any others except maybe 1
@@floatthefolf hes done plenty of 60 and 240
The fact that sailent most likely had zero way to verify that the 144 and 360 fps frame perfects are physically possible will never not be funny to me.
0:17 should be taco bell reverb
1:23 60 frame perfect became the song for a second
As a reference, tidal wave has 200 60+ fps frame perfects (idk how it's separated to 144 and 360)
1:23
I laughed so fcking hard after seeing the 60hz fp increase as f*ck
yes I also fking laughed as fk in a fking way
Yeah, respect to Npesta for being able to pass that part when he did a practice run of that level (nerfed though)
0:38 and 0:89 are fp in 60fps
This is the unnerfed version of
No they aren’t?
@@user-dh8oi2mk4f fp in 360 but not in 60? thats just not a thing
Damn, I can see your struggles with this level even more now…
i have so much respect for you man
Congratulations vision🎉
0:43 fp on 60fps
This is unnerfed version
0:49 - 1:21 was the best part
Crazy frame perfect + Narrow straighting + Sever imbalans, this is the form or helish and cancer top 1 demon! Only the waves are missing and that's it
this isnt top 1, this is top 3 but its still hard
@@fain3502 he is talking about the unnerfed version that is still top 1 if verified
Finally a fp counter for the unnerfed version :D
1:22 what I hear when I am playing the piano
i remember when stuff like sonic wave, bloodbath were one of the hardest at the time
now, bloodbath? legacy for a long time
sonic wave? extended list now
and now, there is this, wtf is this lmao
ur et
This is the part where I say this level was made before either of those were ever even thought of
@@notveryultraguy i mean you don't know that
@@coolcatcastle8 we do. The level was uploaded like 8 years ago
Is anyone gonna talk about the swag route in 0:57
That’s how you actually do the level
@@MineLery oh I just realized that thanks for reminding me
it’s very interesting to me how 360fps frame perfects aren’t always 60fps frame perfects
what
I think he only plays the sound for the most difficult framerate input
a 360fps frame perfect would be impossible on 60fps
@@ViridFlare Not necessarily
@@ViridFlare it could be aligned to be though. Like in TTV
finally a reliable fp counter video lol now people might realise how unreliable letim’s are for judging difficulty
fr
yea, 60 fps frame perfects don’t show difficulty that well, by that standard, mayhem (12) is harder than abyss of darkness (3) and necropolis is harder than allegiance and slaughterhouse is harder than Acheron
not fr
@@exiled_shadegd yer he explicitly says not to assume more fp means more difficulty
@@gammavalentin7 silent clubstep is the opposite, because it has few frame perfects but is harder than you'd think
Those 250 frame perfects in Tidal Wave are gonna be my next deaf machine…
This is actually insane. The amount of frame perfects between all of these refresh rates is insane. I didn't know that there were no frame perfects on the 8 Jumps of Hell for 360 FPS. 144 FPS is just mind boggling to see in this comparison.
theyre all frme perfects
what
Conclusion: no matter the fps; it’s really hard
As a person thats beaten silent clubstep I can say this is very true
Where is your video
1:23 60hz SKYROCKETS here
Ship frame perfects are the very embodiment of fear.
Eyes on the water would then be the planet of fear
now I can see why the pre drop is harder than the entire rest of the level
Not even including the difficulty of the first ship part or the second spam or even the invisibility of the last cube of the predrop
@@exiled_shadegd “safari could not open the page because it could not establish a secure connection to the server”
THE WEBSITE IS STILL DOWN 🙄
but yes that first ship is very notable as well since it is the hardest ship section out of any in all rated levels iirc (and the unnerfed one is even harder)
also do you think unnerfed silent clubstep is harder than unbugged TTV?
Im not going to lie with you unnerfed silent clubstep will STAY in top ten and never leave it
Its top 1 by a huge margin
Newgen
love how it’s basically just the first part..
That’s why 360fps is best…
This is a work of art. I read a book with similar content, and it was truly a work of art. "Reclaiming Connection: The Journey of a Digital Detox" by Joshua Ember
Omg vision made a video after year of inactivity
1:22 is a way of saying "no." to 60hz players
The FPS counter with audio pings on 8 jumps of hell is funny...
at some point we are gonna have a ship gameplay wiht only frame perfects dude also the 8 jumps of hell damn
Should’ve put the metal pipe sound effect for 360 fps frame perfects
1:22 Mobile players trying to get through the duel part in practice mode be like:
It is pretty easy cuz my phone got higher sensitivity and I can play with 2 fingers
@@sharonyeung8230pretty easy is the Biggest lie I've read
1:22 60hrz carry dawg
1:22 the counter goes with the click pattern 😂😂😂😂
it goes crazy
no shit sherlock?
Yeah because every click there is a frame perfect on 60
Even better that this tally doesn’t count the jumps with 2 or 3 frame windows
360 frame perfects? dear god i would've never imagined. Are you sure they're fp on 360 no matter how you're aligned?
Theres a possibility of one jump being 2 frames on 360 but its a VERY slim chance. Almost all the time they will be 1 frame on 360 FPS
@@zVision_ i have a question, why is are the speed portals not aligned so it’s consistent? (like in the recent update to the level) wouldn’t it make the level considerably harder/easier?
@@plasmuds_ its impossible to align speed portals to be consistent. some attempts you can hit a portal 0.01 seconds later than a different attempt. This has the possibility of switching a timing by 1 frame, but the level will always be possible (atleast on 360fps)
@@zVision_ can’t it be aligned vertically so you hit it at the same time every single run?
@@plasmuds_ go ask sailent when he made the ufo and playtested the predrop and 8joh
i could never beat this level. im glad normal clubstep isnt this hard.
Clubstep is the equivalent of a Easy Demon. This is an extreme demon, and is in the top 10 of hardest levels. The difference is obvious and huge
@@robotron6420 i beat the nightmare by jax 😎😎
@@CoffeeCupAndFriends gg
@@robotron6420still easier than back on track by skubb and more
Then what frame rate do you use?
Wtf how is there a frame perfect in the drop ship part
Finally you're taking on the unnerfed version. Don't give up again, I know you can do it!!
He’s not though?
oh boy cant wait to see the 8 jumps oh hell
Rip 2.2 that’s means if you want to beat this legit not by the list rules but by the official games rules you would have to do the 11 frame perfects since fps bypass is not allowed anymore
This shows that a level don't has to have frame perfects or wave to be hard
Seeing the 144hz counter go up like that made my heart sink because of my new monitor
then how I am doing 360 frame perfects on 120 fps ? in practice ofc
Unnerfed version
You know the level is hard when it has a ship frame perfect
Why are there so many 144 FPS frame perfects? I have so many questions about this!
This is what Letim GD wishes he was
Good showcase, especially considering how I feel like I was actually given insight on the difficulty of Unnerfed SC
Yea I hate how his videos only do 60 or 120 fps, I like visions frame perfect style
@@exiled_shadegd all the levels he showcases are possible on 60/120/144, no reason to go higher. Most levels are possible on 60 and there would be no reason to use anything higher.
@@me-di2ol i understand but I wish that it showed 144, 240 and/or 360 frame perfects, depending on the level, like I'd like to know if azure flare had 240 frame perfects
@@exiled_shadegd docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1rw1raJLjZ4ZboVbOgFue44GR1hJoU3h6EMuNtXbk0R0/htmlview
@@CerlonAy thanks
wow the predrop is insane
Is it possible a frame perfect change if for example a 144fps fp jump is placed 2,25 blocks forward or is there some other things that change the exact same frame perfect if it is placed to a different place of the level but it hasn't been moved on the y-axis, for example the speedchanges? Hard to explain correctly what am I trying to ask but I hope someone gets the point.
1:28 i have heard this eight jumps.of hell are not frame perfec at 144 only 60 🗿
This is the unnerfed version
Easier than Back on Track.
0:37 360 ??... thank you, that's very interesting 🙂
I assume the counter increases based on what's the highest refresh rate it is frame perfect on?
yes
With the 144 fps frame perfect does that mean that lower then that is possible and higher is not or the other way round, cause i did the first 2 on 60 fps on mobile and above on pc with 165 fps.
How is something frame perfect in a higher refresh rate and not in the lower categories? Like for instance, why aren’t all the 360 frame perfect instances also instances of the 144 and 60Hz?
They are
Even though paqou beat this lvl before you, your still a legend
Bro this sounds like: 🤜🔔💫💀
But isn't unnerfed silent Clubstep impossible on 60 hz? Like at that 2nd 4 spike frame perfect in The 8 jumps of hell?
????
I never realized how fucking BRUTAL the predrop is
0:49 Why?
Invisible spikes
@@ImCreepurFrame perfect ship
i got 5 percent on silent clubstep and that first jump after the blue or spam i didn't even know was frame perfect for me. i managed to one attempt it and i've never gotten it since😂
Good jog vision
We both know he hasn’t jogged in over 2 years
this is so ®
this is why im laying on 360 fps
Doing a 360 fps frame perfect on 60 feels amazing tho.
thats not possible though is it?
@@jimgoer Just because it’s a frame perfect on 360 hz doesn’t mean it’s impossible on 60 hz
144hz and 360hz sounds like a firework music
DING DONG
people in 564htz: WHY.
That’s crazy, but a totally legit video showed me that slaughterhouse actually has around 56 frame perfects. Crazy right!
2 360 fps frame perfects are like as hard as 12 60 fps frame perfects
GGG BOYYY!!!!!
Does something being a 144hz frame perfect make it impossible on 60?
its still possible but it makes it random
@@Meper if it's at the beginning before diagonal speed portals, it will either always be possible or always be impossible
A 144 hz fp in 60 hz its either lucky alignment or impossible
why at the start are there way more 144 fps frame perfect than 60 fps ones?
cus of how he did the counter. Im pretty sure all 144 frame perfects are either frame perfect on 60 or impossible on 60 depending on the jump
In summary: living in Ohio sucks
0:37 bro those jumps look easy
They are not that hard But still not Easy
@@makak3553 literally 360 frame perfects
@@sonicwaveinfinitymiddwelle8555
I thought they are like 60fps fp
@@makak3553in the nerfed version which was verified , the jumps are 60 fps frame perfect but in the real/unnerfed version,they are 360fps frame perfects.
Вижен, это был шоукейс или ты всё-таки уже смог пройти сайлент клабстеп?
you will do it!
My second question: I have tested the two first Sc jumps on 144fps and 360fps, but on both framerates it has only one frame to jump on the second jump, 1/144 and 1/360. So does this mean the second jump is 360fp but at the same time it is 144fp?
Likely means its 144p, since thats the mininum fps to pass that jump
you can have the same jump be frame perfect on multiple fps, in this case it just means that on 360fps the jump is much harder
yk a level is hard when the first 2 jumps are 144hz frame perfects