Pointing Dog Breed History - Craig Koshyk the Dog Historian of a Generation - Dog Willing

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  • @shug2795
    @shug2795 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a long time trainer of a wide variety of bird dogs, it was a pleasure to have met Mr. Koshyk in person. Thank you Craig, for all the dedication to this project. Craig's passion for bird dogs is contagious. The essence of the various breeds is critical to their place of origin. One of the greatest criticisms I have of North American bird dogs - various pointing dog breeds - is that most every established breed here is developed to be a quasi- (American) pointer. It doesn't matter if it's a GSP, Britt, Vizsla, etc. they are trialed in America so as to be (American) pointer-like. I should know because I was part of the problem! I developed Brittanys that could not only run with, but WIN in American pointer horseback trials as well as cover trials where the entrants were either setters or pointers. One FTCH Gordon I trained ran in their nationals. It was deemed "too much dog for the stake" by a VERY well-known and respected judge! This Gordon also had placements in horseback AF pointer trials. It's not right. Here is the conclusion I personally have drawn from my 49 years of hunting, training, trialing, judging: If you want to horseback field trial in America, get an American pointer or American setter. We need to stop bastardizing the various other breeds that were never meant to show the level of independence, pace, unabated demeanor that the successful American horseback field-trial pointer requires. The Brittany, GSP, et al, aren't supposed have those same traits! They have similar traits for sure. They hunt birds for sure BUT field trials have contributed to the erosion of many a non-American-pointer simply based on the one fact that these trials do not require a retrieve. Hunting ethics should dictate that if we take a bird from the field, we should make every possible effort to recover that downed bird. And yet, the modern bird dogs in America today of various pointing breeds show a severe lack of this once-natural ability. Hmmm...??? The hunting application of the various breeds were developed to make them dedicated, distinctly utile in native terrain, meaning retrieve was a critical aspect. They are to be more co-operative and hunt for the hunter rather than for itself. Yet again, I see bastardized GSPs or Britts or Vizslas that run like their being shot at over distant hills never to look back!?! That's NOT what these breeds were bred for generations to do! How often have you heard American breeders/owners of a wide variety of breeds brag, "You otta see my dawg run." I often ask, "Why? Does it run backwards, or sideways?" Why make it such a priority for your dog to "run"? Did you know that you can have a pointer, Britt, GSP, Weim, whatever, effectively hunt woodcock in dense bush and then hunt that same dog on the prairies for Huns/sharptail only a day later? I have done exactly that with my pointer and setter. The "proper" exposure of well-bred pointing breeds will avail the process most successful to these dogs. It's already in them! There is NO need to develop a renegade and then as they mature, you struggle/battle to get that same dog to hunt to the gun!?!?! Far too many dog owners/trainers instill this independent "run". Subsequently, these same guys pull their hair out trying resolve an issue THEY created! A Britt should hunt like a Britt. A GSP should hunt like a GSP, a Weim...like a Weim, etc. Accepting that in North American we are fortunate to have access to massive tracts of land hosting a variety of game birds it's no excuse to own a renegade OR a dog that is hacked and whistled incessantly. All the gun dogs I develop here handle without constant direction/whistle from the owner. That includes flushers - NO whistle!! Using a whistle means you won't need to carry a gun/shells for the wild birds I hunt. That said, it has been a long-standing misunderstanding that "range/run" needs to be somehow enhanced to have an effective pointing dog. I hunt a wide variety of wild bird species in North America with my 2 dogs. I have hunted over a brace of English pointers (distinctly diverse from the American pointer) in Scotland on a grouse moor. I've hunted English setters (distinctly diverse from American setters) on migrating quail in Italy. Not always but too often, we here in America have compromised those attributes that distinguish one pointing breed from another. Simply put, if you want to horseback trial, get an American pointer. We need to stop deconstructing the diverse attributes/application/methodology of those other breeds. Once again....this coming from the owner of a pointer and a setter.

  • @theuplandsasquatch
    @theuplandsasquatch ปีที่แล้ว

    Pointing dogs are what got me into bird hunting. Before I landed my channel's lead Brittany, I hunted behind all sorts of dogs. Flushers always felt like hunting behind a bulldozer. There's just something artful and thrilling about walking up to a staunch point. I love it!
    Nice work!

  • @leestewart9558
    @leestewart9558 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Listened to all Craigs different podcasts, but he looks totally different to the image in my head. lol. Brilliant man, could listen to him talk about dogs all day.

    • @ProjectUpland
      @ProjectUpland  ปีที่แล้ว

      We are also big fans! We could listen to him talk dogs all day.

    • @HuntinginLebanon94
      @HuntinginLebanon94 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ProjectUplandhello good videos i have hunting videos on my channel

  • @jamesn2766
    @jamesn2766 ปีที่แล้ว

    First book is awesome! Can’t wait for the next one. A wonderful and truly insightful book for sporting dog /any dog lovers alike. 10/10

  • @ctn830
    @ctn830 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the best videos I have ever seen

  • @qasimriaz4232
    @qasimriaz4232 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very well put and couldn't agree more with what he said about hunting and the connection of dogs with a hunter , love from Pakistan

  • @frankmartino835
    @frankmartino835 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, Craig is an awesome guy, lots of experience. 👍👍👍

  • @trevorjones5341
    @trevorjones5341 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing book. Congrats on the second part🎉

  • @KOvitt224
    @KOvitt224 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Will book 1 ever go back in print?

    •  ปีที่แล้ว

      interested in as well... please let us know!

    • @ProjectUpland
      @ProjectUpland  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As a small publisher and business the investment in a reprinting of a book is a slow and calculative process. While we cannot promise the first book will be reprinted, but if demand continues we will consider it.

  • @michaelmdivani9390
    @michaelmdivani9390 ปีที่แล้ว

  • @McCloggie
    @McCloggie ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you ever seen a Large Münsterländer hunting in the US?

  • @johnf1296
    @johnf1296 ปีที่แล้ว

    ❤❤

  • @markschuette3770
    @markschuette3770 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pointer powered fun- best high drive dog exercise rig ever- freedom to gooo under excellent steering and dog control- the rider steers the dogs- no commands needed- the dogs ADD stability to the scooter- you don't crash with this design- on or off road- even on urban sidewalks and single track dirt trails- urban mushing perfected- also good for agro, deaf and blind dogs- d o g p o w e r e d s c o o t e r

  • @biggamecurs
    @biggamecurs ปีที่แล้ว

    Kind of a senseless video if you can’t even get the first book and there’s no link to the second book

    • @ProjectUpland
      @ProjectUpland  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      projectupland.com/product/pointing-dogs-volume-two-the-british-and-irish-breeds/ The link is also in the description of the video. As a small publisher and business the investment in a reprinting of a book is a slow and calculative process. While we cannot promise the first book will be reprinted, if demand continues we will consider it.

    • @RuiFernandes5
      @RuiFernandes5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ProjectUpland how is he tracking demand? I have a few people in europe interested.

    • @laurineverett121
      @laurineverett121 ปีที่แล้ว

      Would definitely buy if the 1st book were reprinted.