@@on2wheels378 That is actually an old cavalry reload. The cavalry horses had as many as SIX or even EIGHT revolvers in a holster up on the horse's neck, and one or two revolvers on the rider. They would shoot one gun dry reholster it and move to the next one. They also had ONE rifle. If the rider was unhorsed he had his last two handguns, possibly the rifle, and maybe a saber to fight with.
In 1974 I had to reload my issued Colt Detective Special w/a speed loader while under fire from three armed robbery suspects. I don’t remember what method was used but I was back in the fight very quickly, and came away the “winner”.
Yeah when 'fight or flight' response kicks in and you get that jolted adrenaline rush it's not uncommon to have bleak memory of finer details during those few seconds. This is when instinct kicks in and your body ends up doing what you are trained to do.with relative ease in order to survive. Still, be thankful to God that you came out unscathed.
Connor Dram Are you calling me a liar; what kind of jerk are you? I can b/u my claim. In fact Mas Ayoob published an article about this case in a 2016 edition of American Handgunner. Grow up little boy!
that's exactly what I mean! 22s are not reliable semiautos and are widly used (in target shooting). And even If you meant his statement was correct and my comment was of point, try feeding steel cased ammo to glocks, a lot aren't reliable with it.
I was taught the FBI reload method with the Sheriffs Dept. I never had a problem with brass not coming out. I am convinced it is the superior reload. We all got very good at reloading quickly. It is a matte rof practice.
The "universal reload" is what I've always used as it feels the most natural for me. You're revolver videos have gotten me onto a pre-order list for a 2 7/8" Model 66. Looking forward to having a wheelgun in my pile once again.
I am not a revolver guy, and pretty much don't have any revolver experience, but if I had to pick from the 4 methods you describe I think I'd prefer method #3. It seems to be the least complex, and I like the fact that the gun never leaves my dominant hand. Your point about using the support hand to do complex tasks is certainly valid, but couldn't that be overcome with lots of practice?
+Christopher Lantesh Yes, it's possible to get very good at it with practice. I don't think it's quite as reliable as the universal reload or the stressfire reload. It's more difficult to bring the gun up to 90 degrees when ejecting the cases, so you're more likely to get a stuck case, especially with magnum ammo.
@@LuckyGunner You don't need turn your gun into air, you just rotate it with cylinder down (hold it as "gangsta") and hit that button with your left hand, you can aim little to air, but it's not nessessery have that gun 90° up, it's not 1873 revolver. :-) I can record video but I don't have real gun in my home, only revolver for 4 mm flobert ammo, but it works same as real revolver.
Question Christopher and Chris: Wouldn't a potential advantage for method #3 be that the spare ammo & speed loader can be stored on the left side of the body (pocket or belt)? If a shooter carries appendix right, it might be nice to have any extra weight from ammo & reloader on the left side. Does this seem true in practicality? Thanks.
Man just started an armed guard position and we use Smith and Wesson 357. This was really helpful...this might be a stupid question but isn't the cylinder and frame hot after firing?
+dcuffie1424 Not the outside of the cylinder or frame but the forcing cone (the rear opening of the barrel in front of the cylinder) can get pretty hot with magnum loads. That's one of the reasons the FBI reload was abandoned by most LE... the middle finger comes into contact with the forcing cone and after firing off a few magnums, it would be hot enough to cause guys to reflexively drop the gun.
Lucky Gunner Ammo after analyzing Jerry Miculek reload it makes me think he must have super calloused hands because he’s doing the FBI, however, shooting the shorter cased 9mm in a revolver with a full length ejector rod. That guy is the original bumpstock. 🤷🏻♂️
Libertea Ron jerry typically used moonclipped guns though and there is no danger of brass getting under the star and moonclipped empties come out easily. Also, you can imagine how much practice he must do ...
As a quasi-ambidextrous leftie who fires weapons right-handed, I find the support hand reload works best for me. The universal reload does look a lot slicker, though.
Hey Chris, thanks for the excellent video. I prefer the FBI reload simply because it is the first method I learned and have continued to train on. I'm sure the others are just as effective and I think its important that you point out the pros and cons of each technique, but I've found the FBI works well for me with no issues of spent rounds failing to eject. I've also not had issues of getting burned from the forcing cone, but can certainly see how it could happen. Keep up the good work with your videos. You are the only gun guy I watch on youtube because you present well and make sense. Good luck in the future!
I prefer #3, the support hand reload. I mean, I use my support hand to slap in a new magazine and rack the slide of a semi auto. Compared to that, the revolver reload is easy for it.
The other thing is that support side reloads allow you to carry the reloads on the left. Otherwise with the first examples you’d have to carry everything on the right which to me never felt balanced. I would never carry my magazines on my right so why should I have the speedloaders on the right.
@@JudoDogMD that is a really good point that I don’t think anyone else has even mentioned. It would also potentially limit the amount of speed loaders you could carry
I'm picking up a revolver rifle later this week (I'm Australian, so it's the fastest thing we can get), and it looks like I'll be training with the support hand reload. Thanks for the video!
I don't understand any reason you should change the hand that is holding the revolver. The idea that only the strong hand is good enough to reach into a pocket to pull something out is weird too. Are people so right handed that their left hand is handicapped? I really liked seeing all these different techniques as I have not used a speed loader much.
1. universal @ 0:46, best for casual reloading use at the range, but not one I would worry about perfecting 2. fbi @2:20,the prob with #2 FBI reload is that pressing the ejector with your non-shooting hand thumb is that your index finger will shift against up the forcing cone that might be HOT! 3. support hand @ 3:58, this off-hand method works best with the longer plunger-type of speedloaders like the Safariland Comp III and Jetfire speedloaders than the shorter HKS and Comp II's 4. Stress fire @ 5:06 - I use this one method w/ my HKS. It allows for best control
No 3... From my point of view, it's important to not let go of a good grip. The left hand can be taught to do the task given enough time and training. This method also keep your fingers away from any hot surface (universal reload exposes one of your fingers to the extremely hot barrel).
I've seen a bunch of the Lucky Gunner videos in the past but this is the one that has me subscribing. Really great, thanks for breaking it down step by step so clearly.
The universal reload looks effective and easy but if I was to pocket carry a revolver in my right pocket, the speed loaders would most likely be in the left pocket, right?
I do the FBI reload because I'm doing two things at once. Dumping the spent casings with one hand and retrieving the speed loader with the other. I have never had any casings hang up in the cylinder using this method, but if your revolver has a partial length ejector rod. The casings could possibly hang up. Especially on snubbys.
So...im shooting a ruger match sp101...and all of these techniques are great...except that when im running .357, the gun gets HOT! i guess i could suck it up and deal with the pain, but i feel like that would be unwise in a life and death situation. Do you have any advice to mitigate the heat?
Chris, this is one of the best videos I've ever seen on reload technique. I love revolver shooting. Like a lot of women, I have a ton of problems racking most semiautos with my non dominant hand. I can do it with 1911s if I cock them first but Glocks et al? No way. I have to change hands. Add to this that my only formal handgun training other than in the Army decades ago was in the late 1990s in a law enforcement revolver course, and I'm just more comfortable with medium frame revolvers. I use what you call the Universal technique and I'm trying to learn Ayoob's "Stress Reload." Revolvers aren't perfect but I love them, they are friendly for me to shoot and I like the old school gun fu you have to know to use them well. Thank you for covering them. They may not be sexy these days and antique, but the old tools still can serve.
The stress reload (#4) is probably the best form to use for most people on medium and large revolvers for a number of reasons not covered. The FBI reload is prone to burning your finger on the forcing cone area. Many people don't have long enough fingers to keep the cylinder out and non-rotating on medium or large revolvers or to positively eject with full length ejector rods. The weak hand reload is used almost exclusively by competitors as it is the most likely to be bungled in an unexpected stress situation as you are using your non-dominant hand to do high-dexterity tasks. Anything where you are slapping the ejector rod at an angle is going to eventually bend it and you will have a non-working revolver, not to mention such movement is abusive to the firearm. S&W and Colt have stout rods but Rugers have such thin rods you might wound your hand doing that. Your version of stressfire (#4) reload has a number of differences from what Massad Ayoob teaches: First, he doesn't look down at the revolver. He looks forward. This is important so you can keep attention on what is happening. Second, he puts the butt of the revolver to his belly and points the barrel down so gravity release of the cartridges is optimized. Third, he wraps his left hand around the cylinder and bottom of frame giving a very secure grip and keeping the cylinder fully out and non-rotating so twist-type (HKS, Lyman), push-type (Safariland, S.L. Variant, Dade) and slide-out (Maxfire) speedloaders will all work well. Even speed strips would work well enough as that hold affords rotating the cylinder with the weak hand thumb.
Congrats man! It's a crime you're not already at 10M subscribers, though. You guys put out some seriously great content! Hopefully, YT comes to their senses with gun channels, but I'm not holding my breath.
Man...you're fast. At 55 yo, I was all thumbs when I first tried this technique. After around 500 rounds of practicing the first method taught in this video with my stainless Ruger SP101 .357 mag revolver, I'm beginning to make a little progress. The most difficult and time consuming part of the process for me was getting the speed loader out of my pocket. On bad arthritis inflammation days, I found myself dropping the reload or fumbling around trying to orientate it quickly. I'm working this technique using a fanny pack type ammo pouch and having better success now. I don't EDC my revolvers but I do carry a .357 or .44 mag backup when hunting or hiking and generally like to have 4-5 speed loaders queued up for reload. Another great video...thanks!
The universal is ok but I will stick with the support hand reload. #1. it spreads the load out more evenly if you carry more than one speed loader. #2. I don't like crossing my right hand over the pistol to insert the speed loader. That seems much too uncoordinated for me. I didn't have any trouble at all getting my left hand dexterous enough to both give me a positive ejection and picking up and inserting the speed loader. No crossed hands, no fumbling the gun from one hand to the other, no sweat. Plus I'm already used to using my left hand for magazine changes in autos, so its not really much of a stretch switching to revolvers. However, if I were carrying a revolver as a self defense arm, I would likely rely on the New York reload! Cheers, jc
I noticed that on every reload, you looked down at revolver to allign the speedloader with cilinder taking your eyes off of your bad guy. Mas also taught a method where you hold the speedloader with the tips of your fingers on the tips of the rounds allowing you to load by 'feel' quickly. Less time staring at your weapon, more time keeping an eye on your opponent. Of course with an auto, you can reload by feel keeping the pistol up just under eye level and keep your eyes on the bad guy/s.
I am a law enforcement firearms instructor, good techniques, but I noticed that during your reload, you lowered your eyes to look at the charging holes and took your eyes off the threat and exposed the top of your heard. I used to teach to avoid doing exactly that and maintain visual of your threat area. I encouraged reloading by tactile feel.
Top breaks are awesome. Only issue with top break revolvers is that they're not the sturdiest framed revolvers. They're only good with low pressure handgun ammo.
I think it's because why bother? It's gonna take a lot of extra effort to make it work (since the frame is weaker than a full piece one) and you won't have anything that will beat a normal revolver. I would love to see top breaks make a come back though.
Cool thing about revolvers is if you are doing a partial reload or reloading with loose ammo, both of which may be the case in an emergency situation, you can do so a good bit faster than with a semiauto. Ideally that wouldn't be the case with either type of gun, but the reason people carry is because they're anticipating the unexpected. Sometimes you can't control how prepared you are, but one thing you can always take with you to make yourself more prepared is practice practice practice. Get familiar with reloading a semiauto mag manually and reinserting it if you have one. Get familiar with loading a revolver with loose ammo if you have one too. Do it right handed, do it left handed, do it without looking at the gun.
In any case, don't buy cheap brands, like TulAmmo. The aluminum casings expand more than brass,- you'll end up pulling out a few shells no matter what reload method you use. and theyre smokier too. Spend some and get finer-grade ammo.
Great video! Very comprehensive. I would only add that it is nearly impossible NOT to somehow change your support hand grip in any of the reloads, Generally you must move your support hand thumb out of the way to get a speedloader in. Not so much with a speed strip.Also, in your FBI re load and the other support hand type reloads, I find it helpful to push the trigger finger through the frame to stop the cyl from rotating while trying to push or release a speedloader into it. I believe in the original Stressfire book Mass mentions initially holding the speedloader with all fingers extending past the body of the loader to help index the loader with the cylinder. Thanks for sharing a very professional video.
Couple questions. At 1:11, is that slap bad for the crane? Can it cause the timing to become off? Also, can shooting from retention be dangerous since the escaping cylinder gases can hit you?
A decent extractor rod should be able to handle it just fine unless you smack the crap out of it from a hard angle. Shooting from retention is usually fine, but you need more space for high power magnum loads than for something tame
extractor rods are usually designed to be slapped, so slap away. Also in case you didn't know it's completely safe to shoot a 22LR revolver with your fingers at the front of the cylinders, a perk of its lower pressures not often thought about. The S&W 43C (absolute lightest weight at 12.3oz loaded) and Ruger LCR (slightly heavier than the S&W but better trigger) are great options for that cartridge, but Taurus revolvers are actually great quality, at a fraction of the price. Check out the Taurus 942!
I use the Stressfire Reload, mostly because I use a speed strip. I carry a S&W 43C and keep a speed strip in my jeans' right hand little coin pocket (or whatever the hell it's supposed to be used for) which helps keeps the speed strip's orientation perfect. I know speed strips aren't as fast as speed loaders, but the speed loaders I've seen for 22LR are chonky, meanwhile the speed strips combined with the 22LR's small diameter takes up practically zero space in my pocket. It's a compromise that works well for me, and Ayoub's technique solves some of the problems with the other techniques.
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I cut my middle finger on my support hand. I think the back of the barrel cut it. Any way avoid it? Change of grip? I have big hands and practicing on a J-Frame 642.
Only one normal way how to reload revolver: if you holding it in right hand. Push cylindr release button with your right thump and in same moment push with your right index finger to cylinder. Push button for remove cartriges with your left hand and insert ammo againg with your left hand. Any other way is noobish and ridiculous. If you have revolver when you can't do that index/thump combo just do it different but OMG wihout changing gun to other hand and without aiming to your face during reloading, it really looks ridiculous. I don't understand why they teaching them this retarded way how to reload revolver. With that "universal" reload and similar I would probably drop my weapon on the ground accidentaly :-D I tried it and I hurted my right hand because there is some sharp piece of metal and I hitted it. :-)
I prefer the support hand reload especially when I pocket carry a revolver as my speed loaders are always in my left pocket. The universal method will only work if you carry IWB and have the speed loaders in your right pocket.
On time 01:30: hold the revolver this way and you just burned your middle finger. Don't forget you're reloading after firing. Your chamber is extremely hot.
I will use my left hand to smack the ejector rod, while moving my right hand in a downward motion. The ejector rod is smacked with the palm side of my pointer finger. If I use a lot of force, I have had brass bounce of my shirt. Only had one case get stuck in my Taurus.
Unloading requires quality ammo. Cheap ammo with thin case walls will stick in the cylinders, and you’ll have to pick them out with your fingers. It’s worth it to carry quality ammo so the empties will fall out when you smack that extractor.
I get why some people put the revolver in their non-dominant hand to reload, but that seems inconvenient and wastes time... cause now you have to reach around the gun to reload, and then put revolver back into your dominant hand. I'm left-handed so of course I would use my left hand for detail work like writing something, but loading a revolver shouldn't be that difficult with a non-dominant hand.
Reloading a revolver like this works fine for a cylinder or two, any more than that and you're gonna get some singed fingers. The cylinder, upper frame and forcing cone get toasty pretty quickly.
A minor advantage of support hand reload is if you can't reload in time, you have better purchase in the grip to immediately use your revolver as a melee weapon. Kinda joking, kinda serious. Never know what can happen in an altercation and any advantage is an advantage. Still, the best reload method is the one you personally can do best.
Fantastic video. Only thing I'd point out about Method 1 is also the risk of bending an ejector rod as there is nothing guiding the strike straight down. A bent rod sucks and is not a quick fix you need a vice and a bench.
I know this is coming in way late... I am curious if anyone has ever tried a reload with a Charter Arms Southpaw as a right-handed shooter. It seems like the right side swing out would make reloading using your strong hand a lot easier. I would think it ideal to have the cylinder release on the left and have the cylinder swing out to the right.
I have a Safariland speedloader and a J frame 640 and it is an absolute pain in the ass to get the round in. To some degree it is a problem of the grip messing up the alignment but even with the grip taken of it is not nearly as smooth as in this video. Any suggestions? Thanks
i was having trouble with the support hand reload. The cylinder would rotate as i was trying to use the turning unlocking mechanism of the speed loader- still a newb here
Some smaller revolvers are a pain in the ass because the cylinder doesn't swing open wide enough to keep the speedloader from hitting the grips. This is where a speed strip works better, but not quite as fast.
Massad Ayoob has an awesome video in regards to speed loading. Check his video out, goes over the pros/cons to speed loading these ways. th-cam.com/video/oXUwI_d8JlA/w-d-xo.html
I think I'll stick to the universal reload. Just picked up a Ruger GP100 and am training to use it for a duty weapon in security. In Ca we can only carry 10 rounds so going back to a revolver I'm not losing much considering their is No Semi as reliable as a good revolver and the 357 Magnum is the best anti personal round to date. Of course we know more important than the type of firearm used is Mindset and training, lot's of it. That said stopping power is all about shot placement but shot placement with a 357 Magnum is a done deal. 97% one shot stops. Good info.
esiagent1 The GP100 is a great revolver, and I hope it works out well for you. The "97% one shot stops" info is a bit dated and misleading, though. You may want to read this article for a different perspective: www.activeresponsetraining.net/an-alternate-look-at-handgun-stopping-power The bottom line is that no handgun bullets are magic and multiple hits will almost always be necessary. In addition, with modern bullet design, .38 +P is nearly as effective as .357 only with a fraction of the felt recoil. The heft of the GP100 will help tame the magnum loads somewhat if you choose to go that route, but something like .38 +P Speer Gold Dots are also worth considering.
I've attended a little over 500 hours of defensive/combat shooting schools and all of them have stress shot placement.I do realize their's no magic bullet and I have to my job which is to train and do my dry firing drills. With the advancement in technology the 38+ makes sense. Again it's all about shot placement and mindset. I will say the trigger on my GP100 is great. Again thanks for the info on your video it was helpful. I've been practicing and the FBI loading method is faster but I like the idea of ensuring I clear all rounds in a survival situation.
Would the support hand reload be best for those of us who shoot left handed but were forced to be right handed in school? Meaning that my right hand has more dexterity than the left but I am left eyed and side dominate? I am looking at getting a revolver for me and my wife and we both have the same issue.
I do the 1920's style New York Reload, where you drop the empty gun and pull out another gun. Works every time :)
I thought you pull the drop gun out once the guy was dead
That's actually called the 'New York' reload... Look it up. Google is fantastic..
@@on2wheels378 That is actually an old cavalry reload. The cavalry horses had as many as SIX or even EIGHT revolvers in a holster up on the horse's neck, and one or two revolvers on the rider. They would shoot one gun dry reholster it and move to the next one. They also had ONE rifle. If the rider was unhorsed he had his last two handguns, possibly the rifle, and maybe a saber to fight with.
I prefer the Sicilian reload where you leave the gun, but take the cannolli.
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You can get more out of his 6 minutes vids then 20 mins elsewhere
In 1974 I had to reload my issued Colt Detective Special w/a speed loader while under fire from three armed robbery suspects. I don’t remember what method was used but I was back in the fight very quickly, and came away the “winner”.
Sure you did
Yeah when 'fight or flight' response kicks in and you get that jolted adrenaline rush it's not uncommon to have bleak memory of finer details during those few seconds. This is when instinct kicks in and your body ends up doing what you are trained to do.with relative ease in order to survive. Still, be thankful to God that you came out unscathed.
Connor Dram Are you calling me a liar; what kind of jerk are you? I can b/u my claim. In fact Mas Ayoob published an article about this case in a 2016 edition of American Handgunner. Grow up little boy!
Kill em bastards 😂
@@oldcop18 Would you still use revolvers today even with modern technology advances like high capacity magazines or sub compact pistols?
I like that you can use cheap shitty amo in a revolver and there's no self feeding issues.
most modern semis lack that issue as well
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you've never shot 22 lr have you?
willem kauffeld .22s are inherintly not as reliable as other semiautos
that's exactly what I mean! 22s are not reliable semiautos and are widly used (in target shooting). And even If you meant his statement was correct and my comment was of point, try feeding steel cased ammo to glocks, a lot aren't reliable with it.
I was kind of hoping you'd include the New York reload at the end as a joke.
I was taught the FBI reload method with the Sheriffs Dept. I never had a problem with brass not coming out. I am convinced it is the superior reload. We all got very good at reloading quickly. It is a matte rof practice.
The "universal reload" is what I've always used as it feels the most natural for me. You're revolver videos have gotten me onto a pre-order list for a 2 7/8" Model 66. Looking forward to having a wheelgun in my pile once again.
hate that term, "wheel gun" kind of brainless.
I am not a revolver guy, and pretty much don't have any revolver experience, but if I had to pick from the 4 methods you describe I think I'd prefer method #3. It seems to be the least complex, and I like the fact that the gun never leaves my dominant hand. Your point about using the support hand to do complex tasks is certainly valid, but couldn't that be overcome with lots of practice?
+Christopher Lantesh Yes, it's possible to get very good at it with practice. I don't think it's quite as reliable as the universal reload or the stressfire reload. It's more difficult to bring the gun up to 90 degrees when ejecting the cases, so you're more likely to get a stuck case, especially with magnum ammo.
+Lucky Gunner Ammo Good point. I didn't realize that. If I ever do purchase a revolver I will have to give this some serious thought.
@@LuckyGunner You don't need turn your gun into air, you just rotate it with cylinder down (hold it as "gangsta") and hit that button with your left hand, you can aim little to air, but it's not nessessery have that gun 90° up, it's not 1873 revolver. :-) I can record video but I don't have real gun in my home, only revolver for 4 mm flobert ammo, but it works same as real revolver.
Question Christopher and Chris: Wouldn't a potential advantage for method #3 be that the spare ammo & speed loader can be stored on the left side of the body (pocket or belt)? If a shooter carries appendix right, it might be nice to have any extra weight from ammo & reloader on the left side. Does this seem true in practicality? Thanks.
Only problem I have with that style of reload is the cylinder is not held in place and can spin while trying to reload
Hi....Great demo of several techniques. Didn't know there were that many. What speed loader are you using in your demonstrations.
Safariland Comp II
Man just started an armed guard position and we use Smith and Wesson 357. This was really helpful...this might be a stupid question but isn't the cylinder and frame hot after firing?
+dcuffie1424 Not the outside of the cylinder or frame but the forcing cone (the rear opening of the barrel in front of the cylinder) can get pretty hot with magnum loads. That's one of the reasons the FBI reload was abandoned by most LE... the middle finger comes into contact with the forcing cone and after firing off a few magnums, it would be hot enough to cause guys to reflexively drop the gun.
Lucky Gunner Ammo after analyzing Jerry Miculek reload it makes me think he must have super calloused hands because he’s doing the FBI, however, shooting the shorter cased 9mm in a revolver with a full length ejector rod. That guy is the original bumpstock. 🤷🏻♂️
Libertea Ron jerry typically used moonclipped guns though and there is no danger of brass getting under the star and moonclipped empties come out easily. Also, you can imagine how much practice he must do ...
@@mr.snowfoam1542 Jerry has said he has nerve damage in his hands and fingers and doesn’t really have a ton of feeling in them.
Hope you stayed safe out there. Bless.
As a quasi-ambidextrous leftie who fires weapons right-handed, I find the support hand reload works best for me. The universal reload does look a lot slicker, though.
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Hey Chris, thanks for the excellent video. I prefer the FBI reload simply because it is the first method I learned and have continued to train on. I'm sure the others are just as effective and I think its important that you point out the pros and cons of each technique, but I've found the FBI works well for me with no issues of spent rounds failing to eject. I've also not had issues of getting burned from the forcing cone, but can certainly see how it could happen. Keep up the good work with your videos. You are the only gun guy I watch on youtube because you present well and make sense. Good luck in the future!
I prefer #3, the support hand reload. I mean, I use my support hand to slap in a new magazine and rack the slide of a semi auto. Compared to that, the revolver reload is easy for it.
The other thing is that support side reloads allow you to carry the reloads on the left. Otherwise with the first examples you’d have to carry everything on the right which to me never felt balanced. I would never carry my magazines on my right so why should I have the speedloaders on the right.
@@JudoDogMD that is a really good point that I don’t think anyone else has even mentioned. It would also potentially limit the amount of speed loaders you could carry
I'm picking up a revolver rifle later this week (I'm Australian, so it's the fastest thing we can get), and it looks like I'll be training with the support hand reload.
Thanks for the video!
Nix6p did you buy it to shoot someone?
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lonely robot First, why are you upset? Secondly, what is a "conmie"? I am going to go out on a limb here and guess that you're an American. LOL
Yard Sale Dale yeah we have lever guns and pump Remington rifles. The revolving rifle is the fastest for us to fire though (second fasted to reload)
Very ned kelley
Very informative video. New to revolver shooting and you demonstrated several different techniques to try. Good job and keep up the good work.
I just got a Chiappa Rhino 40DS. Your video has given me a good start with training to reload. Thanks for a good video!
Very well put together video. Very helpful for someone who wants to make videogames in the future.
I don't understand any reason you should change the hand that is holding the revolver. The idea that only the strong hand is good enough to reach into a pocket to pull something out is weird too. Are people so right handed that their left hand is handicapped? I really liked seeing all these different techniques as I have not used a speed loader much.
1. universal @ 0:46, best for casual reloading use at the range, but not one I would worry about perfecting
2. fbi @2:20,the prob with #2 FBI reload is that pressing the ejector with your non-shooting hand thumb is that your index finger will shift against up the forcing cone that might be HOT!
3. support hand @ 3:58, this off-hand method works best with the longer plunger-type of speedloaders like the Safariland Comp III and Jetfire speedloaders than the shorter HKS and Comp II's
4. Stress fire @ 5:06 - I use this one method w/ my HKS. It allows for best control
Excellent!, very good explanations and demonstrations short and to the point.
You should go teach Caleb at Gun Nuts Media how to do a reload. Smack that thing like Paul!
I practice the Stressfire Reload because Massad Ayoub developed it specifically to fix real problems he observed with the other ones.
No 3... From my point of view, it's important to not let go of a good grip. The left hand can be taught to do the task given enough time and training. This method also keep your fingers away from any hot surface (universal reload exposes one of your fingers to the extremely hot barrel).
I've seen a bunch of the Lucky Gunner videos in the past but this is the one that has me subscribing. Really great, thanks for breaking it down step by step so clearly.
The universal reload looks effective and easy but if I was to pocket carry a revolver in my right pocket, the speed loaders would most likely be in the left pocket, right?
7 years old and still teaching us revolver nubes how to use one correctly. Appreciate it!
I do the FBI reload because I'm doing two things at once. Dumping the spent casings with one hand and retrieving the speed loader with the other. I have never had any casings hang up in the cylinder using this method, but if your revolver has a partial length ejector rod. The casings could possibly hang up. Especially on snubbys.
So...im shooting a ruger match sp101...and all of these techniques are great...except that when im running .357, the gun gets HOT! i guess i could suck it up and deal with the pain, but i feel like that would be unwise in a life and death situation. Do you have any advice to mitigate the heat?
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Chris, this is one of the best videos I've ever seen on reload technique. I love revolver shooting. Like a lot of women, I have a ton of problems racking most semiautos with my non dominant hand. I can do it with 1911s if I cock them first but Glocks et al? No way. I have to change hands. Add to this that my only formal handgun training other than in the Army decades ago was in the late 1990s in a law enforcement revolver course, and I'm just more comfortable with medium frame revolvers. I use what you call the Universal technique and I'm trying to learn Ayoob's "Stress Reload." Revolvers aren't perfect but I love them, they are friendly for me to shoot and I like the old school gun fu you have to know to use them well. Thank you for covering them. They may not be sexy these days and antique, but the old tools still can serve.
The stress reload (#4) is probably the best form to use for most people on medium and large revolvers for a number of reasons not covered. The FBI reload is prone to burning your finger on the forcing cone area. Many people don't have long enough fingers to keep the cylinder out and non-rotating on medium or large revolvers or to positively eject with full length ejector rods. The weak hand reload is used almost exclusively by competitors as it is the most likely to be bungled in an unexpected stress situation as you are using your non-dominant hand to do high-dexterity tasks. Anything where you are slapping the ejector rod at an angle is going to eventually bend it and you will have a non-working revolver, not to mention such movement is abusive to the firearm. S&W and Colt have stout rods but Rugers have such thin rods you might wound your hand doing that.
Your version of stressfire (#4) reload has a number of differences from what Massad Ayoob teaches:
First, he doesn't look down at the revolver. He looks forward. This is important so you can keep attention on what is happening.
Second, he puts the butt of the revolver to his belly and points the barrel down so gravity release of the cartridges is optimized.
Third, he wraps his left hand around the cylinder and bottom of frame giving a very secure grip and keeping the cylinder fully out and non-rotating so twist-type (HKS, Lyman), push-type (Safariland, S.L. Variant, Dade) and slide-out (Maxfire) speedloaders will all work well. Even speed strips would work well enough as that hold affords rotating the cylinder with the weak hand thumb.
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Man...you're fast. At 55 yo, I was all thumbs when I first tried this technique. After around 500 rounds of practicing the first method taught in this video with my stainless Ruger SP101
.357 mag revolver, I'm beginning to make a little progress. The most difficult and time consuming part of the process for me was getting the speed loader out of my pocket. On bad arthritis inflammation days, I found myself dropping the reload or fumbling around trying to orientate it quickly. I'm working this technique using a fanny pack type ammo pouch and having better success now. I don't EDC my revolvers but I do carry a .357 or .44 mag backup when hunting or hiking and generally like to have 4-5 speed loaders queued up for reload. Another great video...thanks!
The universal is ok but I will stick with the support hand reload. #1. it spreads the load out more evenly if you carry more than one speed loader. #2. I don't like crossing my right hand over the pistol to insert the speed loader. That seems much too uncoordinated for me.
I didn't have any trouble at all getting my left hand dexterous enough to both give me a positive ejection and picking up and inserting the speed loader. No crossed hands, no fumbling the gun from one hand to the other, no sweat. Plus I'm already used to using my left hand for magazine changes in autos, so its not really much of a stretch switching to revolvers.
However, if I were carrying a revolver as a self defense arm, I would likely rely on the New York reload!
Cheers,
jc
Step one: drop the empty revolver
Step two: draw your second revolver
Repeat up to 8 times
I noticed that on every reload, you looked down at revolver to allign the speedloader with cilinder taking your eyes off of your bad guy. Mas also taught a method where you hold the speedloader with the tips of your fingers on the tips of the rounds allowing you to load by 'feel' quickly. Less time staring at your weapon, more time keeping an eye on your opponent. Of course with an auto, you can reload by feel keeping the pistol up just under eye level and keep your eyes on the bad guy/s.
Of course with an auto you need to practice clearing jams without looking at the pistol, too.
Oh great now guns and nuts is going to hate lucky gunner now....
How about for left-handed shooters?
Good stuff... Straight to the point... Subed...
I just do what dirty harry does, and NOT reload. My firearm would somehow always have a round in the cylinder.
"Did he fire 6 rounds or 7,000? Do I feel lucky or do I feel like a cheat code has been in place my whole life...punk? ..."
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I am a law enforcement firearms instructor, good techniques, but I noticed that during your reload, you lowered your eyes to look at the charging holes and took your eyes off the threat and exposed the top of your heard. I used to teach to avoid doing exactly that and maintain visual of your threat area. I encouraged reloading by tactile feel.
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why not top break action anymore >:| modern good steel can prolly take the hit
Top breaks are awesome. Only issue with top break revolvers is that they're not the sturdiest framed revolvers. They're only good with low pressure handgun ammo.
I think it's because why bother? It's gonna take a lot of extra effort to make it work (since the frame is weaker than a full piece one) and you won't have anything that will beat a normal revolver. I would love to see top breaks make a come back though.
Cool thing about revolvers is if you are doing a partial reload or reloading with loose ammo, both of which may be the case in an emergency situation, you can do so a good bit faster than with a semiauto. Ideally that wouldn't be the case with either type of gun, but the reason people carry is because they're anticipating the unexpected. Sometimes you can't control how prepared you are, but one thing you can always take with you to make yourself more prepared is practice practice practice. Get familiar with reloading a semiauto mag manually and reinserting it if you have one. Get familiar with loading a revolver with loose ammo if you have one too. Do it right handed, do it left handed, do it without looking at the gun.
In any case, don't buy cheap brands, like TulAmmo. The aluminum casings expand more than brass,- you'll end up pulling out a few shells no matter what reload method you use. and theyre smokier too. Spend some and get finer-grade ammo.
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Great video! Very comprehensive. I would only add that it is nearly impossible NOT to somehow change your support hand grip in any of the reloads, Generally you must move your support hand thumb out of the way to get a speedloader in. Not so much with a speed strip.Also, in your FBI re load and the other support hand type reloads, I find it helpful to push the trigger finger through the frame to stop the cyl from rotating while trying to push or release a speedloader into it. I believe in the original Stressfire book Mass mentions initially holding the speedloader with all fingers extending past the body of the loader to help index the loader with the cylinder. Thanks for sharing a very professional video.
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Couple questions. At 1:11, is that slap bad for the crane? Can it cause the timing to become off?
Also, can shooting from retention be dangerous since the escaping cylinder gases can hit you?
A decent extractor rod should be able to handle it just fine unless you smack the crap out of it from a hard angle.
Shooting from retention is usually fine, but you need more space for high power magnum loads than for something tame
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extractor rods are usually designed to be slapped, so slap away. Also in case you didn't know it's completely safe to shoot a 22LR revolver with your fingers at the front of the cylinders, a perk of its lower pressures not often thought about. The S&W 43C (absolute lightest weight at 12.3oz loaded) and Ruger LCR (slightly heavier than the S&W but better trigger) are great options for that cartridge, but Taurus revolvers are actually great quality, at a fraction of the price. Check out the Taurus 942!
I use the Stressfire Reload, mostly because I use a speed strip. I carry a S&W 43C and keep a speed strip in my jeans' right hand little coin pocket (or whatever the hell it's supposed to be used for) which helps keeps the speed strip's orientation perfect. I know speed strips aren't as fast as speed loaders, but the speed loaders I've seen for 22LR are chonky, meanwhile the speed strips combined with the 22LR's small diameter takes up practically zero space in my pocket. It's a compromise that works well for me, and Ayoub's technique solves some of the problems with the other techniques.
I like the support hand, pretty much right handed but I can use my left hand for anything except write, so I'm pretty much ambidextrous.
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I cut my middle finger on my support hand. I think the back of the barrel cut it. Any way avoid it? Change of grip? I have big hands and practicing on a J-Frame 642.
Only one normal way how to reload revolver: if you holding it in right hand. Push cylindr release button with your right thump and in same moment push with your right index finger to cylinder. Push button for remove cartriges with your left hand and insert ammo againg with your left hand. Any other way is noobish and ridiculous. If you have revolver when you can't do that index/thump combo just do it different but OMG wihout changing gun to other hand and without aiming to your face during reloading, it really looks ridiculous. I don't understand why they teaching them this retarded way how to reload revolver. With that "universal" reload and similar I would probably drop my weapon on the ground accidentaly :-D I tried it and I hurted my right hand because there is some sharp piece of metal and I hitted it. :-)
Well done very informative.
I prefer the support hand reload especially when I pocket carry a revolver as my speed loaders are always in my left pocket. The universal method will only work if you carry IWB and have the speed loaders in your right pocket.
On time 01:30: hold the revolver this way and you just burned your middle finger. Don't forget you're reloading after firing. Your chamber is extremely hot.
thanks........can we load the revolver in between without removing all the cartridges? can we reload the remaining cartridges?
I will use my left hand to smack the ejector rod, while moving my right hand in a downward motion. The ejector rod is smacked with the palm side of my pointer finger. If I use a lot of force, I have had brass bounce of my shirt. Only had one case get stuck in my Taurus.
Unloading requires quality ammo. Cheap ammo with thin case walls will stick in the cylinders, and you’ll have to pick them out with your fingers. It’s worth it to carry quality ammo so the empties will fall out when you smack that extractor.
I get why some people put the revolver in their non-dominant hand to reload, but that seems inconvenient and wastes time... cause now you have to reach around the gun to reload, and then put revolver back into your dominant hand. I'm left-handed so of course I would use my left hand for detail work like writing something, but loading a revolver shouldn't be that difficult with a non-dominant hand.
Speed loader is for combat cargo shorts fit room for speed loader whatever gun as long as you hit in long short distance
Reloading a revolver like this works fine for a cylinder or two, any more than that and you're gonna get some singed fingers. The cylinder, upper frame and forcing cone get toasty pretty quickly.
Thankfully, I'm left-handed, but right-eye dominant, so I shoot right-handed. This enables me to use the left hand only reload with my dominant hand.
An old school ALICE 1st aid / compass pouch is good for speedloader.
A minor advantage of support hand reload is if you can't reload in time, you have better purchase in the grip to immediately use your revolver as a melee weapon. Kinda joking, kinda serious. Never know what can happen in an altercation and any advantage is an advantage. Still, the best reload method is the one you personally can do best.
Thank you, this is a great video resource for revolver reloads.
Fantastic video. Only thing I'd point out about Method 1 is also the risk of bending an ejector rod as there is nothing guiding the strike straight down. A bent rod sucks and is not a quick fix you need a vice and a bench.
I know this is coming in way late...
I am curious if anyone has ever tried a reload with a Charter Arms Southpaw as a right-handed shooter.
It seems like the right side swing out would make reloading using your strong hand a lot easier.
I would think it ideal to have the cylinder release on the left and have the cylinder swing out to the right.
what brand is your moon clip?....I guees that you just pushed and put the ammo or rotated with you finger?
I have a Safariland speedloader and a J frame 640 and it is an absolute pain in the ass to get the round in. To some degree it is a problem of the grip messing up the alignment but even with the grip taken of it is not nearly as smooth as in this video. Any suggestions? Thanks
i was having trouble with the support hand reload. The cylinder would rotate as i was trying to use the turning unlocking mechanism of the speed loader- still a newb here
Some smaller revolvers are a pain in the ass because the cylinder doesn't swing open wide enough to keep the speedloader from hitting the grips. This is where a speed strip works better, but not quite as fast.
Massad Ayoob has an awesome video in regards to speed loading. Check his video out, goes over the pros/cons to speed loading these ways. th-cam.com/video/oXUwI_d8JlA/w-d-xo.html
I think I'll stick to the universal reload. Just picked up a Ruger GP100 and am training to use it for a duty weapon in security. In Ca we can only carry 10 rounds so going back to a revolver I'm not losing much considering their is No Semi as reliable as a good revolver and the 357 Magnum is the best anti personal round to date. Of course we know more important than the type of firearm used is Mindset and training, lot's of it. That said stopping power is all about shot placement but shot placement with a 357 Magnum is a done deal. 97% one shot stops. Good info.
esiagent1 The GP100 is a great revolver, and I hope it works out well for you. The "97% one shot stops" info is a bit dated and misleading, though. You may want to read this article for a different perspective: www.activeresponsetraining.net/an-alternate-look-at-handgun-stopping-power
The bottom line is that no handgun bullets are magic and multiple hits will almost always be necessary. In addition, with modern bullet design, .38 +P is nearly as effective as .357 only with a fraction of the felt recoil. The heft of the GP100 will help tame the magnum loads somewhat if you choose to go that route, but something like .38 +P Speer Gold Dots are also worth considering.
I've attended a little over 500 hours of defensive/combat shooting schools and all of them have stress shot placement.I do realize their's no magic bullet and I have to my job which is to train and do my dry firing drills. With the advancement in technology the 38+ makes sense. Again it's all about shot placement and mindset. I will say the trigger on my GP100 is great. Again thanks for the info on your video it was helpful. I've been practicing and the FBI loading method is faster but I like the idea of ensuring I clear all rounds in a survival situation.
How many speed strips can you carry on duty?
Not going to ask about any end runs onthe rules.
Speed loaders are definitely something you want if you choose a revolver.
Would the support hand reload be best for those of us who shoot left handed but were forced to be right handed in school? Meaning that my right hand has more dexterity than the left but I am left eyed and side dominate? I am looking at getting a revolver for me and my wife and we both have the same issue.
I catch a baseball with my left/support hand, as well as handle a cars handling while driving a manual
Does anyone lube their revolver cylinders with dry lube or something to help the cartridge shells fall free more easily?
has anyone had issues with their finger touching the forcing cone during a reload and burning themselves?
Is there anyway to reload a revolver without the remaining, let’s say 2 shots coming out
Any chance you could show modified versions for lefties?
great video but fr i would just use a glock where I have 10 bullets more and the reload is much easier
The really important question is, which one looks the coolest??
How about some techniques for left-handed shooters?
Support hand reload is the only way to go. If you disagree I will kill you. Sorry
On the support reload you need to hold the cylinder with your index finger
Try the Zeta6 speed loaders and speed strips which are more up to date for a lot less money.
Wtf is a speed loader. If you wanna reload that fest than get a damn semi auto pistol.
It would be nice if you invite some of the left handed shooters you know to show how they manage it.
I end up with support hand reloading a lot, Just how i figured it out on an old taurus raging hunter
I have a feeling some people are going to accidentally shoot themselves in the face doing this
There's a different method for magnum rounds cause of the heat of the cone
Does anyone know what music is playing at 4:10 ?
I hope someone can do a similar revolver reload video for left handed person like me.
Well done!!
Support hand reload works well with vr.