Citroen C4 Picasso gearbox fault, and no power on the OBD port... Fault finding and repair.
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This C4 Picasso came to me with a "gearbox fault" displaying on the screen...
When attempting to scan the car, no power (12v) at the OBD port...
Was this two issues related?
Follow me on this video to find out what was the problem and how to resolve it.
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HI Luis, in a comment section somewhere was this link to a guy who explains why cheap Chinese car fuses are absolutely no good. In fact the cheap fuses are dangerous. This video is 34 minutes long but for a good reason, the guy has the correct equipment and is methodical in his testing.
Just for example he shows why a cheap 5amp fuse will actually blow at 30amps by which time your loom and your car is on fire :(
th-cam.com/video/nELwmfAOz_I/w-d-xo.html
Luis, thanks for all the videos. May you and your family be safe.
Seen that video... while I was doing some research for a video of my own...
But has been well covered in that one, so no point to do one...
But thanks for sharing it!
I will make your post a sticky one!
Stay safe as well...
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Do you guys think the tool the professor J. Kelly uses in this video is useful for car diagnostics? Milli ohm meter is very expensive, may help finding corroded(also burned) wiring and shorted to ground wire because of the high precision the tool have !
@@petar443 No, this expensive tool is only useful for determining that the cheap eBay fuses that you bought are no good. I have some :(
How you discover what is a good brand of fuses to buy is another matter.
(sorry for my complicated English)
I had bad experience with chinese fuses as well. Replaced 10A fuse during testing the car circuit for chinese one only to blow the 15A that was above it.
@@LMAutoRepairs Do you have a video where you program an ABS module on a French car?
My friend was about to scrap his car and he could not afford a new one but this saved it, THANK YOU SO MUCH
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That's great!
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Just watched it twice - it is fascinating to watch someone who knows what they are doing. Should be compulsory viewing by all Citroen dealers who normally have no clue. I have owned them since 1970's and not changing now.
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Another great video of yours. Watching you is building up my confidence in doing electrical repairs to cars too. Well done mate and many thanks
That's great!
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Made my day...a fix I could have done😂Thanks you’ve made lockdown Sunday a bit lighter...stay safe
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That's great!
Stay safe!
Great job as allways! Problem with corrosion in these Citroen Picasso is that water goes from window stright on battery ant fuses. Need to fix shelf!
As well...
Thank you for sharing!
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Great video, I am looking at buying a 2007 model with 176000 on it, seems the main issues are electrical, due to battery fumes and water ingress, maybe undersized cables.vIs the gearbox a solid unit and trouble free with regular service.
Thanks a million brother I'm gonna try that tomorrow, hope to God it works for me.
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Thank you very much for sharing your experience with us!
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i have 2009, they are notorious regarding the water in engine compartment. I cant understand that Citroen engineer's made such a crappy design. To water to be able to soak that engine carpet/insolation, and drip on BSM and ECU box, and battery and fuses. Amazing design.
Thank you for this great video :)
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Luis, that is the fully automatic transmission which is quite rare. Most of the Picassos have the 6 speed semi automatic EGS transmission. You were quite close on the power. It is 138 BHP. My own C4 Grand Picasso has the same 2.0 HDi engine. That Picasso is very well specced even for an Exclusive. Whoever bought it new ticked quite a few of the optional extras. I noticed the bluetooth stereo, leather upholstery and the full colour display with the built-in sat nav. The person who bought mine new only went for the black paint. Some white grease will help in stopping the corrosion from coming back.
Parknest the P on the lever gives it away. This box connected to either a 2.0 HDI or 1.6 THP is a nice combination in peugeots and citroens
Good man I have the same issue with a c4 I looked at yesterday but I won't to buy it and I have the car at home for a trial so I will now look at these fuses 👌🏾
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Easy for you Luis but it just goes to show if you have a good diagnostic plan and just do the basic you will get the job done quicker. Nice work
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You always need a plan, if you follow it or not, that's a different story...😜
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Thank you for watching and for your comment!
Though I'm not a Picasso owner, still love the video. Very informative and useful. Thank you for making such a wonderful video!
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For watching and for your comment!
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God bless you for this video! I've almost thrown the car to the garbage. Literally
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Good job L!
Thanks!
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Love this chanel, saludos desde españa
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Wow! this is great and very useful sharing, thank you so much. I do have a similar faulty indicator as well and will try to check later. Thank again.
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Thank you for another great video!!!
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Thanks for sharing your videos 👍
Thank you for watching them!😉
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Fantastic video thank you very much I will now go and get my point meals Pliers and the Test light and some fuses probably once again great video cheers Martin
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If only all your repairs were that simple 😉. The scuttle drains also get blocked on these and as always another great video. Looking forward to the next one 👍
Absolutely... I usually get the nasty ones...
Nice to have a simple one every now and then...
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
Hi Luis
I just checked my car which i am trying to purchase and it has this exact fault and as i have the car i have looked at your video and i have now located the fuse, from the left i have the first 2 ports empty then i have a 5amp, 15amp, 5amp then a 20amp so the second fuse is missing and the 3rd is a 5amp and needs to be a 15amp so i will clean and add new fuses to the holder. fingers crossed.
Great job!
Thanks!
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Thanks very good I repair my car today now in Paris
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Well done!
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AAH , French cars . That's bread and butter . After all this time they still haven't learned to keep vital electronics out of the way of water / condensation intrusion but to be fair , they are not the only ones . As far as those fuses . It happened to me One ( 1 ) time that I pressed the wire inside the fuse together while measuring for continuity . My diagnose didn't make sense so I pulled the fuse and measured on the blades . Faulty . Looked very closely and there was a gap barely visible . Fooled by a faulty fuse .
Could not agree more!
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Great and smarther job thanks
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Looka daaa nice easy repair good job 👍
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Very informative thanks
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Nice job😃
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Perfekt, i make by this Problem Silicone Grease on the Fuse-Kontakt Greats From Germany
Thanks!
Can be use transmision oil...
Thank you 🎉
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Good job
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Very nice video. I have seen a couple of similar issues on cars where the engines were washed incorrectly. The substance used corodes everything if it goes where it shouldn't go :-) Also windshield washer fluid does this.
Indeed...
Thanks for watching and for your comment!
I have the same set of issues on mine and i've changed the bsi once because of water backeed from the headlight washer harness:) now it shows all these failures again and i guess i have corrosion again
Great video nicely diagnosed 🙂, thanks for the link to the files 👍. Fuses probably blew due to the heat build up on the bad contacts. See some moron gave you a thumbs down, don't know why ? it's just stupid. Take care and stay safe.
You can please everyone...
Just the way it is...
Agree that the poor contact or deterioration of the fuse lead it to overheat...
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good job.....
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Useful information
For some odd reason your comments keep being flagged as spam...😜
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@@LMAutoRepairs I watch your videos with interest and appreciation. I usually like to make short comments. sometimes youtube can perceive me as spam.
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I know...
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Nice one boss
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you should make a video on how to make a nice DIY test lamp , i made my own relay tester / test lamp
I have so many plans for so many things... lol
Time is a killer... 🤦♂️
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everyone needs an easy day .. interesting, I like your vids
It is nice every now and then...😊
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Thanks for sharing Bro👍
Another great fix, without requiring any parts😉
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What could be the cause of those blown fuses, first guess would be any issues with the battery management system👨🏻🔧
Stay safe❤
Most like high resistance from the corrosion that overheat the fuse...
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
Stay safe as well...👍
We have a Peugeot 207, where can one get hold of the fuse box detailing book/pdf info?
A quick google search should help you...
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Why do people keep sending you cars to fix without fuel. I get the same and it most annoying. Great job and a plus of not getting wet.
I know... I get it all the time...
Lucy this time with no rain...
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
Yeah it was annoying me how they expecting a road test. That and obviously bad batteries
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I get both at the same time all the time... lol
I think people are afraid you're going to run around in their car using their fuel so they wait 'till it's running on fumes 🤣
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Bom video pra esta altura de estarmos fechados em casa... só eu quero trabalhar na oficina mas o patrao nao me quer lá devido ao corona virus, pois a esposa é enfermeira e devido a um colega de trabalho ter dado positivo tive de ficar em casa esta última semana... abraço de Portugal
Sem dúvida...
Olha por ti e pelos teus... melhores dias virão!
Por aqui também já estamos confinados a casa e ao trabalho...😔
Tem um bom domingo!
I have a c4 picasso 2009 diesel and doesnt have the second fuse . the scan report a p1510 error and p1351
So it down to bad fuze, y gearbox fault, iv just put new battery in car few weeks back
Hi love the video. I have the same problem but the garage said the abs is not receiving any comms from other ecu. Do you know what it could be? Also it’s a intermittent problem sometimes it comes and sometimes doesn’t. So I know it might not be the fuse
Check wiring...
Intermittent problem are always a tricky one...
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
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Water/damp intrusion? Is that part of the fusebox not closed wit a cap? Silly then. I often use a metal nail file where i cut the tip of.
See you putting a 20 amp. why, there was no on the list in the manual. W(ater)D(isplacement)40 work temporarily, so i dip the legs of the fuses in some petroleumJelly. Keeps the corrosion away. Nice diag. and fix though
Could be... or battery gases...
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It is very important yo know why there is a corrosion because the problem could appear again.
@@LMAutoRepairs Yep gasses might be, if the battery was replaced they often forget to put the small overflow in place again.
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As I said, battery gases... this cars are known for it...
There is not a lot you can do...
The clean and lubrication should help for a few more years....
Hi Mate, I wonder if you could help me out with any knowledge.
I have a Toyota IQ with a 5 speed gearbox. When changing from 1st to 2nd it is glitchy and gets worse when hot. Basically hard to change and you can hear a noise. But if I place it in neutral and then into second or go from 3rd to second it's perfectly fine.
Any ideas what it might be? Some have said clutch needs changing but I've heard from another person who said that when they had the clutch changed they still had the same problem.
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Yes... that would be my first guess...
Clutch or clutch area/parts...
I never came across that issue, so can't really advise...
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How can i turn on ambient Light in doors listen on doors?
Nice and easy job!! Off course, when you know where to search for the problem. 👍
I have a 2012 C4 Picasso with egs6 gearbox, and It appears that the gearbox CPU is gone. Is there a need to change something besides that part(engine CPU, BSI,...) In order to get it repaired? And Is It necessary to do gearbox learning procedure?
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To answer to my self: After installing a matching gearbox CPU(computer) the gearbox started to work immediately. There was no need to intervene with diagnostic tool. Surely, it won't hurt if that is done, just for the matter of being aware of completion of whole procedure.
That's great!
I must have missed your comment before...sorry...
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hi Luis, i've seen some of your videos since my citreon c4 2007 wont started. i did ask a mechanic come to help. but after he checked everything that he could have done, he said my c4 wont started maybe because of the BROKEN CENTRAL LOCK (the key when i bought it it is already broken so i always manually lock and unlock the car door), do you think is it the problem? thank you very much if i got your reply :)
Very unlikely...
Scan the car, check live data, and go from there...
Thank you for watching and for your comment?
Very good very good job done.
I also have the same car and the gear selector is taking control by itself, that is when I select automatic it later change to manual but when I turn off ignition for a moment and start again then it stays on automatic.
Do you think Is a fuse problem or the gear selector that need replacement.
Bless you.
Impossible to say without scanning the car, and look at some live data...
That's where I recommend you to start...
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
Where are you located
Great job!
I saw ESP & ASR Faulty and Handbrake faulty in this car. I have the same mistakes in my Citroen picasso c4, 2007,1.6 hdi. I can't find how to fix this mistakes, because all car systems works correctly. This message on display every day annoying me. The fuses are not corroded. Where else can I look for?
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Scan the car first... and get what the modules are reporting...
Thank you for watching!
EGR is your problem. Replace or clean it
I found the problem. The EGR was unplugged.
The AM6 is actually a fully automatic gearbox. Not the crappy automated manual one. You dont see them often and they are really nice. For a citroen that is
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Hello. I have a similar probably problem with a C4 2011 1.6hdi. I need to check it but is this a regular problem with these cars? Especially in Norway where the weather is awfully wet.
I have only seen it this time, but don't necessarily means it was the only it happened to...
Worth checking if you believe you have a similar problem...
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Hi , great video mate !
I have citroen c4 grand Picasso 2017 diesel auto and I have all the lights flashing up on the dash . The electrician checked all the wiring and the control unti and they all are correct and functional however every tike I change gear from park to reverse and to drive the gear makes a noise and a jerk ?
Fault codes?
Live data?
Are you sure is not a mechanical problem?
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What I have been told there's a problem in the control box which is in the gearbox ? Now I'm not sure whats happening.. can you check the car ?
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That alone doesn't say a lot...
You need proper diagnosis... otherwise it is all guess work...
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Thanks for your replies , I figured that I need a proper diagnosis.. can you recommend anything?
We're do I find this fuse in a 2007 same car ? My fuse is not in the same place as your video 👌🏾
The electrical system might be slightly different, either the fuse is not fitted, or is shared with another system... difficult to tell without checking...
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Hello, I have a cetarwen c4 picaso. Do I need to change the gearbox oil, knowing that it is written in the maintenance book that it does not change, but if I replace it is it better for the gearbox or it gets worse?
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Depends...
If there is nothing wrong with the gearbox, an oil change will not hurt...
If the box is worn, and the debris in the oil are already helping the clutches, an oil change will make it worse...
Is that a manual or automatic?
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As I said then...
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Good day, I have same issue with my 2008 C4 Picasso 2.0HDi automatic. In the beginning "Gearbox faulty" was on and off for some reason, but now it is constantly on but car drives normally, no difference noticed. Had the same fuse blown, replaced, cleaned contacts but still no luck. Scanned car fault comes up as U1310 "Automatic gearbox electric control fault". Any advice on what to check next? Thanks
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Check all power and grounds...
Check other modules for faults as well...
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
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Thanks for quick answer. There are other faults P1351 "Pre/post heating relay circuit" and P0560 "ECU supply voltage fault" and I guess it was caused by same problem. Thanks
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I would actually say that the ecu voltage supply is the primary cause of the other issues... go for that one first....
Hi, happy new year to you. How are you? We okay, but so much bad cars around. I have peugeot 5008, engin9HD year 2014 manual geabox. I replaced the ABS module. But unfortunately, it's from automat gear..now there is no error in the ABS, but fault in ESP/Brake sistem, ABS unit Waiting information about from the automatic transmission, it has no automat.
Not sure if can be coded with diagbox...
Have you tried it?
All good here... thank you for asking.
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
@@LMAutoRepairs You're a smart good professional, of course I watch your videos!
Hi please could you help me out with your wisdom on a Citroen Picasso c4 grand 09 plate, the battery dies if I don’t start it daily. I have bought a new battery and still it dies out. The alternator is working. Please help
The parking brake button needs replacing because it’s slightly loose. And I can hear the handbrake on the left wheel when pressing the parking brake switch. Also it’s a 1.6 diesel hdi auto
How much is the fault finder kit? Or Citroen program.. can I download it ?
Hi I have a C4 Picasso year 2010-2012 and got gearbox fault error... Local Citroën dealer performed gearbox reinitialisation but after two days the error got back. Should I check for burned fuses too?
You can try...
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Did you resolve the problem bud ?
Can anybody tell me where to get these fuses from. Tried others but don’t fit the housing unit.
Ebay or a local car parts shop should have them...
Thank you for watching!
My picasso a pain in the arse esp lights on again wont change gear only had it fived few week ago
Hi Luis, I have exactly the same issue, service light comes on and then says gearbox fault repairs needed but the car drives fine but sometimes it doesn’t move past gear 3. Why would you recommend please?
Scan the car and go from there...
Thank you for watching!
Great video, I've recently got a similar problem with my c4 picasso grand year 2013-14, gearbox fault, won't go into reverse, I've to switch off n wait around 5mins.Once u drive and want to switch off won't go into neutral which means when u try to switch on u can't since it was on drive when it was switched off. Any solutions?
Difficult to say...
Scan the car and go from there...
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@@adamsamatar979 my car iz doing exactly this too...... Did you find the fault? Was it costly??
Hi, I have a Citroën c4 grand picasso 2007 1.8 vtr+, I've had loads of problems with it, still do. One thing I'd like to do is clean the mass air flow sensor but I'm not sure where it is, could you help please
Usually straight after the air filter box...
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@@LMAutoRepairs not in this case, it goes from the air filter box straight to the throttle housing nothing in-between I would attach a photo of a similar engine but not sure I can
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In that case, your engine does not have a MAF...
Hello, my 2009 Citroen grand Picasso semiautomatic. I get a message "Gearbox faulty"
When i move the gear lever, nothing happened, it does not go to "'D" , it stays on "N" and sometimes the car does not start, and other times it starts. The OBD II says "Manufacturer Controlled Transmission. Code P 1834" what do you think the problem is?
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Is that code on the engine module, or on the gearbox module?
Check live data as well...
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@@LMAutoRepairs on the main OBD II port location, under the dash.
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Of course... but that was not what I have asked... which tool are you using?
@@LMAutoRepairs The standard OBD II scanner, not kexia
OK... if you can't connect to the gearbox module directly with that tool, then it might going to be tricky... ideally you would be able to look at live data etc...
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Awesome repair, but I must say that Citroën put the fuse box in a very stupid place.
Very true... lol
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Send link for the brake light activation device....
Here you have it...
www.nhgtimber.co.uk/
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LM Auto Repairs Thank you. Will order now.
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Ok so problem was live in UK where all components rust becasue of big humidity in this country..... So problem solved for only moment ......😶
I have a C4 Picasso 08 2.0 hdi with EGS gearbox.Fault on gearbox module is Gear selector signal,Deviation,Intermittent.
When I go to select Drive or Reverse or Neutral on the stalk noting will happen.Its happening intermittently and can leave you stranded in a dangerous place.Any help would be a massive help.Thank you
Check live data...
There is a possibility that the selector is failing...
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When you say selector.Do you mean the actuator at the front of the transmission
Well, I was referring to the selector by the steering...
But ideally you need to scan the car, and look at some live data before any assumptions...
Otherwise it is pure guess work...
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Ok I will try that tomorrow when it acts up again and see what the selector stalk is doing when I’m moving it.Just came across your video on a search on Google.I Subscribed to your channel on TH-cam.Very informative and in-depth videos.Keep up the good work 🔧 💻 🤯👍
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I have a 2006 Citroen C5 model 2.0 16v (AL4) automatic transmission vehicle.
I get transmission failure when it rains.
I am getting error U1003-0103 in OBD data
In addition, the vehicle changes gears on its own while driving on the road.
When the rain stops, my car returns to normal. Errors cleared
I think part of my car is getting water and the problem persists until this water dries up.
What is the faulty part?
Help me! please
Look fo the water ingress... if the car is OK when dry, might not be any faulty parts... and it is just the moiture/water that is causing the problem...
Look for the leak, and fix it...
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Which part do you think is leaking?
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How do I know?
You need to look for it... see where the water is getting through...
Hi need your help vid you did a few weeks back you did car radio on a vauxhall astra you had to change the Vin on the chip I brought a eeprom reader but I need the software. For it this is what I brought EEPROM BIOS Writer CH341 SOIC8 Adapter Clip USB Programmer hot it off ebay am a small work shop over in Northland and want to have a go at this chip in this vauxhall astra radio
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Surely the reader came with the software, or not?
I can advise you a software for a reader, as you have drivers etc compatibility...
There is some softwares that can communicate with several readers, but can tell if that is case...
Check with the seller...
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Hi there was no software disk with it thouhgt there was. If you can help as I know you pretty good at this sort of thing. I did down load some software but it's in Chinese captions lol this reader is a USB one. Others than that can I send up the chip. I want to have a go at it my self but. Not sure how to do it seen your vid on it but not how to change the Vin if you know what I mean
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Try an "universal" software...
Do you have a link of the reader you bought?
Yes I will. Send u a link www.ebay.co.uk/itm/264454983183
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How i can getting online programming and coding number for car such vw can you help me
Thank you for videos
To start you need the correct tools... for multiple car makers, you will need different tools...
What exactly are you looking for?
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@@LMAutoRepairs the exactly car i looking for is vw and
the tool used is ODIS
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For online programming you need a geko account...
There is some ways around, just google it...
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