E - BIKE To E - MOTORCYCLE | Land Moto 3 in 1 Bike
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ส.ค. 2024
- I flew to California to try this 3 in 1 ebike. It's got 4 modes, the first is ebike, that tops out at around 28 mph. Mode 2 is e-moped which tops out in the mid 30's then modes 3 and 4 are the E Motorcycle modes with a top speed of over 70 mph. One of the coolest features is the programing, the torque changes with the mode, that's just one of the unique things about the Scrambler from Land Energy
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This bike is really cool. The looks and power are great. $7,000 Whoa! that might be pricey for most riders.
That's true it would be but considering a surron light bee x costs 4.3k and an surron ultra bee for 6.5k, it's not too bad at all.
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@the_DOS Not to mention that neither of those bikes is licenseable for on-road use in a lot of states.
@@GearBits Damn for real. I bought my scooter and it is road legal.
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@@GearBits Good point!
This is incredible and I'm buying one.
Very cool I like the niche they are targeting
"Niche" is pronounced "Neesh" by the way.. not "Nitch".
The guy from Land was really well spoken. Their marketing is quite interesting; basically saying they can be ebike riders first motorcycle. You asked some good questions, this video covered a lot of good info.
I agree, he did a good job and thanks! Glad it was helpful
This as he started is not an ebike for everyone saying this is just a way over powered ebike. For simply minds, this is a light motorcycle or otherwise a scooter, it just has torque and looks. If anyone that likes to ride would love these everyone else is going to complain while they drive by in a minivan. With that being said even though this can be power downed to a class 3 ebike, i would be pissed if someone rode be me on a bike trail on this.
So for 7.5k is a good buy considering you would spend around 10k to put the same specs on a Surron. Not to mention it charges in 5 hours. Which is the same as the 60v 20ah battery on my bike lmao.
Glad to see some evidence of sound reasoning that is not an E-Bicycle.. it has no PED-dles _["ped" is Latin for "foot"]_ to peddle home if you run out of batter energy/BE which by the way, a Moped is a petro motor peddle-push power machine if you run out of petrol.
If it had pedals, I'd be so stoked on this but if it doesn't have pedals it won't be street legal in PA.... I love the look of it and all the controls are on the bars like a motorcycle. Just wish I could get a test ride in PA... 😍🖤
We do have two bikes at Kissell Motorsports in Tyrone, PA!
@@giovanny4316 Yes, 100% street legal
It’s not mind blowing the first time you ride a land.. it’s mind blowing for you every single time and for most people around you who are witnessing that thing hauling tail! Cars cannot keep up off the line!
Excellent video, thanks for sharing it. Love what Land is building here!
Thanks for watching!
Impressive spokesperson and product, not lying when I say theres only one reason I don't have one and its just the wait(for another brands offering)then the decision. Every video Land Energy puts out makes it alittle harder to wait.
I really like the fat tire version
Land moto is so under rated. Lemme get one in all carbon Fibre lifepo4 batteries and be doing 90+ easy and get more range easy. Its actually a very light "motorcycle" ice engines are easy 300+ pounds
Without pedals, it's not an ebike.
you can air pedal it.
Put some add-on flip out charging pedals. Pedal it while riding to charge the motor.
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It has two wheels, it's a bike.
@@craigerskine3609 Still not an ebike. That's important because there's no contracts needed with state/government to control and own your property
Well if you watch the video, the CEO calls it an E-moto, not an e-bike
This is great as a beginner's motorcycle to learn to ride before you take the plunge into something like a Honda CBR or Kawasaki Ninja.
Totally agree! I'm a newbe and felt very comfortable
You are able to buy a lower level street petrol motorcycle that is below 600cc for less than then what these EMCs/E-MotorCycles go for due to how the batteries are always the most expensive component unless you are able to get them at cost.
@@RemnantDiscipleLazzaro-Rev1217unless? And how would you pull off that unless 😅
Defeats the point of electric micro transportation. You can get 2 top of the line Euc's for this price that go just as fast and 4 times the range and have zero license. Way more versatile.
Two problems
1: most people aren't interested in the form factor due to comfort and small size and due to reason number 2
2: they look dorky as hell
How quickly do you think someone will kick it up to level 4. Difference between a 60-80 lb ebike to a 200 lb moto is huge. This is definitely more of a motorcycle than an Ebike. I do not want something like this on my bike path. I even have trouble with regular e-bikes being on my bike path when they are not pedal going as fast as they can. These do not belong on a bike path.
I’m not saying these are not cool, but it is a Motorcycle!
In a lot of places, it CANNOT be ridden legally on a bike path at least because it has no pedals.
as fast as they can u mean 25 mph? hah
@@Alex-gn6xb Nah some e-bikes for 50 mph, though they not supposed to. And there are a-holes riding Mopeds that are MISCLASSIFIED as e-bikes going bout the same speed 50 mph on bike trails, I see it all the time
Well for me, I did right away and I have little experience on a motorcycle, this really felt like a bigger ebike. As far as riding, I'd keep this on the road personally, it's too tempting to keep it lower than 20 and that's the speed limit for most bike paths
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These look really cool but I see one issue with these. I live in PA and here to pass your MFS course or a normal skills test you cannot take it on a scooter or an electric motorcycle. It has to be a tradtional bike with a clutch and foot shifter no CVT or automatic transmistions allowed. So if you get your permit and buy one of these it's not going to help you in regards to passing your skills test or your MSF course at least not in my state not sure on other states. In PA you can ride around with just a permit but you can't renew it forever so you are going to have to pass the MSF at some point where you are going to have to ride on a gas bike that's why I've decided to just buy a gas bike.
Good to know, thanks for the comment
Mines being built as we speak! Super excited to get it and rip it around
Right on! Enjoy!
What do you think about the viability of the company? I'm on the fence about ordering one. Especially after what happened to SONDORS.
@@terrification I think Land is a great company. They work with you and get back to you and will go the extra mile to help you in what ever way they can. I had a few issues with the finance company where they switched my terms and they worked with me to find another that works for what I was looking for and now we’re good to go. I heard about the sondors stuff and that seemed scary to deal with as a customer just being left in the dark a lot it seemed like
Did you get yours yet? How is it? How long was the wait?
@@terrification everyone I’ve seen order one has gotten theirs within a reasonable time. The customer service is really good they have walked me through and answered all kinds of questions for me and helped me finalize ordering one. They did everything they could to ensure everything worked out. Plus they’re really cool dudes on top of that
Please please please sell the scrambler version in the UK…. It would be the coolest EBike in Europe
If it does not have peddles to pedal like a bicycle, it's not a e-bicycle. E-Bicycle has pedals to still propel the bicycle manually. American corrupted English truncated the word "bicycle" to "bike" due to lazy speak.
Had confirmation from Land that they’ll start shipping to countries outside the US second half of this year so I really hope I can buy mine by Christmas time
No license is needed for this bike?
Looks better than the Xyber by Segway.
As long as you promise not to use mode 3 or 4 😂
You'd need to license it
What notice is that when using a helmet while using my moped it; the helmet amplifies the sound of the motor: stressing more my eardrums. But an e bike wouldn't ever do that, on the contrary sometimes I want to take of on my e bike only to find out that I didn't turn my bike on or off.
That’s why I love my ebike. I don’t like loud things, my bike tops at 42 and is almost silent. The downside is it’s silent and people don’t hear me coming lol.
Really nice but I think a lot of people who would be interested in something like this are looking for something they can ride without having a motorcycle license and having to register. I’m guessing people who want an actual motorcycle would choose something different. If it had pedals and could pass as a moped style ebike I would be putting in my order
Your first sentence is right on point. By the way, a Moped is a gas motor peddle-push power machine if you run out of petrol.
I'm a former motorcycle owner/rider and the District checks all the boxes for me. My job and everything I need is within 5 miles of my home, if I can get more range than that then ++
I did not hear anything about the range in each mode in the video. I believe that is the most important detail. and is one off the first things i want to know. If it can only go 20 miles in mode 4, then this is not a good at all.
We talked about range, I've also got a link in the bio over the Land, there you can see the ranges depending on battery size
Bring it On! Its About Time !!!
It's more like motorcycle not a moped or ebike
7k is a lot but id buy one after i got my 2024 KTM Duke 390 love that thing
E-Bicycle has pedals to still propel the bicycle manually. American corrupted English truncated the word "bicycle" to "bike" due to lazy speak. E-Motorcycles do not have pedals to propel the cycle if need be. Mo-peds is "Motor-ped", "ped" is Latin for "foot", thus "PED-dle" since if you run out of petrol with your Moped, you are able to peddle home etc. As for the claim of they coined "E-motos" is another mistruth.. i'm a word nerd in part regarding accurate, correct, ordered, precise, proper and intelligent English, that term "E-moto" has been used in slang on E-Bicycle forums for some time now by certain folks. I prefer EMCs/Electrical Motor Cycles. The sad part of all this forced push into going to EV everything, is that indisputably almost all the lithium based chemistry battery packs in an EV car, EMC, Bicycles etc, when they are no good anymore or damaged from thermal runaway etc, they end up in the landfill, our next toxic waste global disaster.
Another thing: the EMC builder claims you are not able to spin rear tired on a petrol motorcycle, that's a lie, he never rode a 250cc, 350cc etc sigh.
Cool bike. But in regards to using the batteries in a variety of other applications. Couldn't they make the batteries smaller and use small cables to run them in tandem? That way, they could add or subtract depending on the size and output needed.
Valid question for this toxic waste contributing conveyances.
so cool needs to have racks with big bags on it and travel far with it ;)
They have accessories
More weight = more power drain on battery energy levels.
SEGWAY xyber bike has some competition!
Have to see if I can snag one
Great looking Moto! I have a suggestion for you on using your batteries for other things...how about lawn mowers, and golf carts. I would LOVE to have one of these and be able to power my zero turn with it too. Sign me up!
Great idea
EGO power tools just released a 56v electric vehicle.
lithium batteries scare me, but I love this bike
As someone that hasn't driven many e-bikes, my 1st thought is I don't want software interfering with my driving experience. I love when a car is well built and handles according to the framing and design. I should add that when I've driven the newer cars, I really dislike lane control and look to turn it off as soon as I can. Any feedback greatly appreciated. Prove me wrong or right.
I get that, but software can increase the overall comfort of the ride, just depends on what you want
@@ElectricRevolutionif you can get the app to work. I have 2 of these bikes and the antitheft doesnt work because it doesnt show where my bike really is EVER. It shows my bike is always in Belarus across seas lmao. Both me and my fathers bikes shows this whenever we try to track our bikes even with the most up to date version of their app. Also i was supposed to get mobile inverters that plug into my battery. Actually what they dont telk you is you can request one because it was supposed to be the original plan to have one integrated into the battery but instead they waited to do anything with them forever and everytime i ask about mine for the past 3 or 4 months now i get the same answer that they "should be getting them out to you within the next month or so!"
Ebikes are not for beginners an accident at 15mph could potentially be fatal i love the idea and design of this but whoever thought it was smart to have a mode from 28- 70 how many beginners do yall think gonna immediately kick to 4th mode and kill themselves or someone else
If anyone is looking to get one one of these i have 2 2023 models with their large batteries and the magura brakes on them as well as the large cargo rack on the rear. They are in seafoam green and lunar grey. NOTE: They are numbers 66 and 67 in production so they are some of their first production bikes!
Thanks for the comment
You need a motorcycle endorsement as this is still a motorcycle, the cops arent going to give a s if its in evike power mode. Buy at your own risk, but it looks cool
Soon ebikes will have to carry insurance and tagged. Maybe they won’t make everyone have a license also but I doubt it. The reason being ebikes should have a better rating system. Keep the 123 and add 40-50 class 4, class 5 50-60 and so on. In other words if you choose to have a ebike with the capacity of doing 70, YOUR bike should not be labeled class 3, but a class 5. That way your tags,insurance and license will be on you and I shouldn’t be punished for my class 3
Smoking the tires, very mature.
Dang right
O ya, 1 more thing...
And I'm 100% sure that you can do this,
ADD AN ALTERNATOR..!
WHEN the BATTERY CHARGES ITSELF as you're RIDING Around.
Then it will be in a class all by itself..!
So your job should you decide to accept it:
Is to create a SELF-CHARGING E-BIKE... 😊 ..!
Axel
Could you please add pedals, possibly that fold flat to the side?
Once you find out how much it weighs you will not wont to peddle......3rd party company makes peggles(they're cool).
Don’t be fooled if you aren’t used to it 28mph can jack you up, also don’t let the term e-bike fool you if there aren’t any pedals the 👮♂️ 👮 are gonna give you a hard time, and possibly confiscate your investment 🏍️.
They say this is a Motorcycle, they give you everything to register it as one as well, I should have been more clear on the ebike modes
I love it. 70mph? I could use this to commute to work since I live in Reno but work in Carson City 40 miles away.
range is about 7 miles at 70mph
@@MantisUmbrella oooooohhh no. That changes everything
@@full_chargeWhat they said is only true with the smallest battery option. The 2 larger batteries you should get 35ish going 70 most of the way, maybe 40 with the largest. Depends how much of your commute is doing a constant 70. constant 55 it could def reach your work then you could charge it there.
Either make a Motorcycle/Moped or a E-Bike. Making a All in One Bike only get a-Holes to think they can ride 70 mph on Bike paths/trails. And then climb it is only a ebike.
I already see some ebiker trying to go 40 to 50 on bike paths. So they will definitely try to go 70 mph if that is the limit
The frame is simple to build and I'm sure someone would build same battery
👍👍
Can’t carry a passenger is a big down fall
Doesn’t matter on ride mode. Motor is above federal laws of 750w at 28mph. Bikers and walkers in bike paths would kick you straight off
I personally wouldn't use this on a bike path
i personally think this is pushing the term ebike a little too much
Just a little? Me thinks that's a huge understatement. This is no bicycle. This is a motorcycle. It doesn't belong on any bicycle path.
They classify this as a Motorcycle but yeah it's in the grey area for sure, will be interesting to see how the laws and regulations will change as these types of products get more popular
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Id like to see color lcd
It reminds me of sondors. And they sell on the Preowned market for 3-4k and they are 5 new. It will only be successful with a lower pricepoint. Otherwise, (although its nice) its too expensive especially with a flooded e moto Market. Thia is priced the same or more then bmw ce02 and its a new brand. And there are tons of ebikes that go just as fast for half the price.
Some very valid points on EMCs/Electric MotorCycles and the other parts you stated. If you know how to build your own E-Bicycle or EMC, you can do well to have more power for cheaper and actually build oneself a FUN machine as long as the battery is correctly assembled not lighting your house or building on fire.
Looks cool but it seems more like a really slow motorcycle that's also expensive
So, it's a nerfed electric motorcycle?
I call bikes in this size “ ultralights”
can you get the the 2.2kwh option and then add another one later and use them in parallel?
How many highway miles would I realistically get? Super Interested and I like the look of this ebike, but I have a almost 40 mile ride to my job on a 70MPH highway.
In the review, I asked that question, can't remember what he said. Those stats should also be on their site, I've got the link in the bio if you wanna look it up
Clearly states it's an emoto with an "ebike" mode
Add Pedals and I want 2B your 1st $ale..!
BEING COMPLETELY SERIOUS.
So now you're going to need a motorcycle license and insurance and registration with DMV
Same thoughts.
Or don't be a pussy I have a 8kw ebike that can do wheelies at 40 to 60mph and no I don't have any of that shit
Yeah, they'll send you everything you need to register it, VIN etc
Anything to generate more revenue huh boot licker? Why would you assume that a license would already be necessary? Does the Constitution not afford is the right to travel? Or has a license become necessary only because the government steals your freedom and sells it back to you?
Cool!
Wait, what about security???
So it is street legal and I can gwt it insured?
I could see myself getting a very expensive ticket by SCPD, then have it stolen by a junkie in Santa Cruz.
It has a key just like a motorcycle and yes it's street legal and has everything you need to register
If I could afford it I would have half a dozen Ebikes.
I dig the bikes, but he display screen looks like it could be a little more high tech. Even e-bicycles have color lcd displays
It’s a cool bike. I was wondering if the police will believe you if you explain that it's in the slow mode or if there is a clear way to prove it. For states or countries with different bike path speed laws can it be custom-tuned to fit the local laws. Here in Queensland we have some of the best laws for e-bikes and scooters in Australia but this would be technically illegal because the elec motor is too powerful. I assume it could only be registered as a moped or motorbike.
You'd need to register as a motorcycle from what I understand
@@ElectricRevolution but then you can't ride it on the bike paths and a lot of the function of the bikes modes would be redundant.
Does it have a VIN# for folks who want to register the bike for commuting on the road?
Yes, everything you need to register comes with it and it arrives fully assembled
This is really blurring the line between a motorcycle and bicycle. Personally I would like to ride my motorcycle on a bicycle trail because I would feel a lot safer. Many of these rural bicycle trails that are used for snowmobile trails in the winter, in my opinion should be opened to motorcycles, at a very low mph limit. But I feel that I should be able to enjoy these quiet and safe trails too. Especially when something like this is considered legal. Or is its legality questionable?
Something like this does not belong on a bike path! What makes you think people will ride them slow, it will not happen!
I’m passed all the time by e-bikes going as fast as they can on the bike path, throttling and never giving me a heads up that they are passing me. A moto will be even worse on a bike path.
The lines are blurred and may be for the foreseeable future.
Most bike paths are rated to 20 mph which this is small enough and can go that slow but like the comment below, have to trust people to go that slow :). it's hard when you have a ton of power at your disposal
Looks cool, but can it balance wheelie. and regen
You can wheelie anything if you're good enough ;)
Yeaaa....
1 question…Can this motorcycle be registered? If NOT No thankx 🤔
Yes, it comes with everything you need to register it
So I can ride this as an ebike without a license in LA?
I think you'd have to get it licensed even on ebike mode, I'd double check with the company or the DMV
Wow
0:11 hey guys, I’m Brother from Ohio do you know if these are coming to Salt Lake City Utah?
You can order them, they arrive fully assembled
It's alot of money to have one of them they are against the law it would have to register
I'd rather keep mine £90 0 45mph wivh to me is fast enough. 30mph is a good speed to get from a to b. It's a nice bike
You would need to register it to make it legal, we talked about that in the review
Requires plates I see 😮
It does
does it have a regen braking as well?
No
Needs passenger support then it would be perfect
Agreed
Why don’t they talk about the Range factors?😢
Range will depend on battery size, the biggest size on ebike mode will get ya 110 miles
Over price
What's the price
Around $7,000, I've got the link in the description and a code to save ya $200
Range?
Website says over 100 miles if you ride it on it's slowest speed mode
To bad they don't say what's the range.
The largest battery size on ebike mode will get ya around 120 miles
@ElectricRevolution I mean with each level. I understand 120 miles for level 1. Moped mode/level is what 70-80 miles? I saw the range was 40-120 miles. I'm guessing at level 4 the range is 40.
that power tap being $700 is ridiculous haha. all they have to do is get a company to make an inverter with a plug that matches their battery and make a shell for the inverter to make it look like it fits the bike and they could sell it for under $200. the law 100% sees this as a motorcycle no matter how much you limit the output below its rated max horsepower output. these guys got lucky someone just dumped another 3 million into their company to help them out.
7 grand for a bike with a battery is next leval stupid. If you dont buy somthing for 7 grand. It will eventualy sell for the real price.
Too much money for too new technology that has not been proven.
7 grand; no thanks!
Lmao you must be trolling. 7k is a great price for this. Other comparable electric motorcycles are 10k and up.
Great investment!
No, you can not use this as an e-bike anywhere . Claiming you can if you lower power output is false . Classification for e-bike is (working pedals!) not (capable) of above 750watts. No one should ever!! Ride this in a bike path . . Be careful . This video shows someone riding on the sidewalk . The police will ticket someone for sure then the rider will point out this video . …. Never on a side walk, never on a bike path . All the videos you see in TH-cam riding surrons and similiar to this are doing so at there own risk as these are strictly illegal (everywhere) to ride as an e-bike which requires (pedals) to get e-bike classification !!
In NO WAY can this be Referred to as an E-bike.
--> ADD PEDALS 1st.
ONLY then aRe we Talking E-bike..!
it's pretty ugly .... i would take that wheels and motor and make another custom bike ..... something i would like cause it's ugly
I'd rather keep my gas powered motorcycle and my electric Enduro
Cash money says it tanks cause It's ugly as F. Has the old kit mini bike look
Someone is going to build a REAL e moto in their garage YOU WATCH! they're going to be an overnight billionaire
lol
I think it’s looks beautiful. Just maybe not your personal style.
I would love to hook up an #hbcruiser with all the "e" stuff, custom chopper type lowrider ⚡💪🏼😎🏁
Do it!
Great bike but the price is high. I like my scooter better man. I bought this scooter from Alibaba under 3,000 dollars. 72v 40ah, 8,000w motor and it weights 150 pounds.
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@@RandomMotoThings still going strong against these new brand electric vehicles man. Try again man.
@@andreperry7995 that thing is small and fugly too. I don’t care what the top speed is, i 100% sure know that it’s not safe at top speed. The ergonomics are all off.
@@RandomMotoThings my scooter have 14inch tires on it. It weights more than a surron. I like the range more than the top speed.
I hope battery tech improves in the next few years that will allow you to go 50+ mph with range beyond 20 miles. It's great bike but the range takes a nosedive once you go highway speeds.
I think we're headed in that direction