Great that you are doing these videos. It would be a real help if you would do a 5-min version with the key highlights. Sometimes I don't have 3/4 hour to spare!
Some twenty or so years ago, people taking photographs in public places were starting to be persecuted. Thankfully, common sense prevailed and better training of police and security forces preserved the right to do so. Sadly, it appears that it's starting to reverse and potentially get even worse than before. Very Orwellian 😢 It's ironic that the biggest threat to the security of the UK is the influx of large numbers of people with unkown intent
So, what are they going to do about Google earth?? Because let's face it, I don't need a drone to look at something, I don't actually need to leave my house when Google can show me anything I want!
Don't worry - they are also pushing forward with plans to restrict our internet access too, so pretty soon Google Earth will only be available via Digital Online I.D. and even then it could be heavily redacted for us poor plebs.
@@Sk8WineMedia I know you can have images removed or blurred out...but I also know Google do a survey service using their satellites with higher resolution than we see on their earth service..( for a price ) Essentially all this gives is the ability to monitor airspace users more effectively and then to charge those users to use that airspace.
they don't help, that's for sure. but most of those clowns were doing same with cameras before they got drones, drone is just another tool in their arsenal of annoying tech.
I'm a little late to the party, but even before this came about, I'm actually slightly afraid of sending my drone up into the air in fear of being somewhere that I shouldn't be, unbeknown to me. Checking bylaws for example. Apps like drone assist will only tell me so much. A lot of places I'd like to fly, the land owners (for all intents and purposes) such as CADW, Welsh water, national trust etc all explicitly prohibit drone flights. Most beaches near me are SSSI's As a result my drone has remained safely in its box for months now, untouched
As I understand, unless there’s a formal no-fly zone in place, they can’t prevent you flying over their property - only taking off and landing from it.
@ajc97436 presumably only if you enter the property to attempt retrieval. Otherwise it would be like trying to prosecute someone for trespass because their football came over the fence.
Keep up the good work Sean. It’s so tiring to try and keep up with new laws. The CAA should hire you as a spokesperson. They need to make a decision and stick to it and stop making so complicated for a casual hobbiest and even professionals. I feel they need one app that can show exactly where you can and can’t fly, fly your drone from, apply for permission to fly in certain areas, show flight conditions and new law updates. How else can people keep up with this? Hopefully they will be sensible with their restrictions 🤞
I really do not care whatsoever about flying drone laws :) I'll be the judge of where I will fly my drone and when. I don't make any trouble and I'm not silly with it, and I don't fly near other flying vehicles so they can change the laws as much as they like. Not interested in what they are.
@@Kurlach you can get a airbnb apartment on the city and use by your window. Nobody sees a DJI Air 3 drone during the day if you are at least 60meters above the ground. Outside the city, nobody sees or care
It’s not limited to photography from drones, or government-owned land. My reading of it is that it restricts regular camera use at industrial locations.
So ...elaborate ..flying over a warehouse ...how are they likely to get approval for a no fly zone ...a warehouse ...this would be prejudicial to the UK 🤔..how?
@@The_Summit_Wanderermaybe not all warehouses but any with a govt contract like BAE systems down to a mundane supplier of office consumables who service the govt.
Well, that's put an end to my thoughts on getting a drone. I can see the police using this legislation to stop pretty much every drone flight that a private company takes exception to, especially if they have any connection to the gov
In general I don't like or watch audit channels, but in the same way that a free press frequently oversteps bounds, I still prefer to have it even with the intrusion and annoyance caused because all these things provide useful oversight, it is after all our country - ALL of us, not just those in power.
So you wouldn't mind my drone hovering outside your bedroom window? The amazing technology that drones embrace, allows those somewhat dubious characters to exploit other peoples rights and freedoms. If everyone flew their drones sensibly, there would be no need for legislation like this. But they don't.....so there is. The auditors have done a tiny bit of exposing wrongdoers. They're mostly idiotic criminals themselves, with a grudge against any form of authority or restriction. They prey on people using half truths, lies and ambiguities and misrepresentation of legislation. "Reeling them in" is a good thing not a bad one. Preferably before they damage the hobby and legitimate use of drones, beyond repair.
I see no reason why any private business should be audited unless suspected wrong doing, especially as you can bet most of the time the auditor isn’t even a customer. They use the trespass laws to antagonise knowing it’s a civil offence, their aim is to provoke but would not like it if reversed. It’s all about TH-cam income!
Thanks for bringing this new Act to our attention. It says much about the MSM that I have seen no mention of it in the press. I wonder what Liberty and similar action groups make of it? Add this legislation to the Terrorism Act and the recent Protest Act revisions and the police have a recipe book to restrict and control public sight of what could be embarrassing I noted that the legislation says photographing in the prohibited areas, or vicinities, is an offence. So a potential outcome could be the ability of the Police to enforce the, currently unenforceable , signs that get put up on fences saying 'NO Photography'. So the current 'legal to take photos from a public place' mantra is now defunct. The ability for areas to become sensitive 'on the fly' is particularly worrying. Next problem - I'm walking the street innocently passing a 'Prohibited Area' and the police use their stop and search power to pat me down. They find a notebook listing Prohibited Areas (or even an APP on my phone) and now they can use the 'equipped for terrorism' laws to arrest or detain me. 'He was covertly carrying a list of government targets your honour' - remember there are freely available book titles that have got people imprisoned because circumstances ' linked' them to potential 'terrorism'. The strange thing is I would fully support this type of legislation where it only related to the military - that's a no brainer - but as written it can be used to effectively remove, from visual scrutiny, anything or everything associated with the internal government of the country and it's population - in other words I fear most the Police not the Army, Navy or Air Force. Regrettably it is too late - very clever of them to get it through Parliament without comment or public scrutiny.
Remember you where a terrorist for taking a photo of the police car park😂 Clown society. But my local cop Sam Brown Fife constabulary police scotland... Can hire UFC fighters from russia to assault his victims. The brain dead government need to stop giving corrupt cops more powers.
I guess we could all go to Ukraine and fly our drones there. There's no restrictions there as far as I've watched on TH-cam. You can even strap thing's to your drone and drop them on anything you don't like. 🤫
It's not just about drones, it's about stopping the recording of any images of these areas. The whole photography thing is crazy on first looks. No more photos of Buckingham Palace, Houses of Parliament and the likes.... Also interesting, I'm sure that I saw the viewing of images of these areas is also included in the law. So anyone looking up these places on Google maps/earth are open to prosecution 🤯.
Coastlines are Crown Estate lands , so say bye bye to filming there . “Crown Estate is the prima facie owner of all foreshore (and seabed) by virtue of prerogative right. This, in effect, means that the Crown Estate owns all of the foreshore” Unless they sold it off .
Haven't watched the whole video but one point I would raise is, if they detail EVERY location that's covered by this legislation somewhere, surely that's a national security risk in itself?
the caa should have to email everyone who has registered to fly a drone all the new rules they make us do test and register the drone so why cant they send info out to us as like a few have said the hobbyist just wants to fly a drone and dose not always keep upto date with the laws changeing all the time or the caa should have ther own fly app and mark down all the area we can and cant fly
The BBC is reporting today that the UK has decided to keep / recognise the European CE marking / conformity scheme indefinitely for various products including fireworks , toys and radio equipment, so does anyone know if this means the C1 marking on the Mavic classic will now be recognised in the UK?
I started flying drones about ten years ago and have to say, I’m checked out at this point. Every month there’s legislation, trying to find somewhere I’m permitted to fly near me is almost impossible and when you do you get approached by uneducated Police and public. Not exactly enjoyable. Another example of doing something you enjoy and having it squeezed until you have to find something else to do.
Would a terry-wrist actually give a f...lipping heck about about where they're allowed to fly? "Oh no, the Military Installation is out of bounds". "Don't worry Comrade, we can fly into this National Trust Gift Shop and destroy their scented candle display".
So are all the existing Google images of ‘Prohibited Places’ now going to be redacted? If Google then go back over ‘prohibited places’ , will Google be jailed ?
What makes me think this will eventually be worded to include "no fly zones" around any police vehicles and officers? Subsequently, if someone sends their drone up and starts filming a huge public protest against the government, the police being in attendance would automatically makes it an offence to fly there, and the cops could (Using remote ID) bundle the pilot into the back of a van and lock them away before the footage can be uploaded and be picked up by the alternative media. Also, who are these laws put in place to control? Foreign nations engaging in espionage won't comply, so how will the laws do anything other than just impact the law abiding citizens?
Thank you, very thorough. I would like to just make a couple of points if i may. Firstly is intention: the why etc of what we doing with our drones. Secondly is this: with the MOD etc protecting sites with no fly zones etc, what the world will have is a perfect map with every UK MOD research site, military base etc etc complete with coords and polygons. With the satellite tek now available, 6cm spatial res, add that to the new UK Gov NFZ map, seems a bit like national security need to think more.
You shouldn’t be flying your drone near sensitive areas anyways. Though I appreciate the information you raise each week. Your channel often contains a rhetoric that all drone pilots are out to cause criminal acts. Which they do not. The simple question here is that the CAA and all the government bodies are moving so swiftly with changes to the entire legislation that the information they provide isn’t clear enough for the uneducated pilot to adhere to. The hobbyist relies on the manufactures mapping system to tell them where and when they can or can not fly. The hobbyist won’t go online to look at the National Security Act 2023. And no one is going to be sent to prison for 14 years unless it’s for intentional spying. I agree share the info out, but lower the panic button a bit.
We support drone flyers of all types and I happily pointed that out during the show tonight. Sadly, being the messenger is not always the easiest role. If the story is concerning, that is how it is angled. We usually keep the panic to a minimum but I have to say that elements of this new legislation are very concerning and we need to ensure we get clarity to prevent restrictions slipping in.
It is very important that someone takes ownership of explaining these changes. So I applaud this channel for raising the information and having an open discussion. But it does highlight how the CAA and governing bodies fail to engage with pilots who have purchased and registered a drone. It’s crazy that topics on National Security that could change how pilots operate in future are raised via TH-cam. The CAA and governing bodies need to officiate an amenable solution. This could be in the form of a channel like this one to get this type of info out there. Either way. There’s a lot of changes still to come. The industry needs better guidance from those institutions.
I’ve no problem with this. However, I hope all prohibited areas and restrictions will be clearly identifiable and readily available and not left to guesswork and days of desktop feasibility studies for operators. The Altitude Angel team will be busy! Thanks for bringing this to our attention so quickly Sean. Be warned though, this, unfortunately, will be a buffet of Karen fodder, just saying! Will the UK be going down the USA DJI banning route I wonder.
I pose a question, will these new laws extend to information already gained and published? For example, will certain TH-cam videos be ordered to be taken down and any recorded information already held in storage be confiscated? This question I believe will likely be answered in the coming months/years.
It doesn't quite work like that, it is the person rather than the dash cam, if you use the dash cam footage then you could in theory be done, but as most dashcam footage is just overwritten, it will be down to the use of the footage.
@@tonyb1223 If you retain the dash cam footage as evidence for any possible court procedings, for insurance, for education or for entertainment and don't overwrite it in theory because we don't like you as a person we'll nick you. Police: Hello, hello. What's going on here then?
@@tonytouch7823 You understand that dashcams have a setting to save certain parts of the footage under emergency conditions, (usually by pressing a button), the rest will be overwritten.
Yep IF they get Google to redact sensitive areas off their maps , that will essentially be a ‘hit list’ of locations for (let’s say) the Russian’s who have made threats on Russian TV , to attack all the blurred /redacted areas 😮 If so, well done , it will be invaluable to terrorists😮
I don't know that this necessarily means much for flyers - but it could, it depends on how it is used. This country has laws about everything, really, there is little one can do that cannot be brought in the orbit of some law if there is a will to do so. I recall being told that a group of three or more people in public can be considered to break some law. Is that used much? No, not really - but it was used in the miners strike to turn back carloads of supporters. So it is more about trusting the reasonableness and proportionality of the authorities than anything else. So, no problem there ....
Sean, thank you for your usual excellent analysis of the new act. I personally think it’s overkill, surely, for less effort that the new act imposes they could just make the relevant areas/sites no fly zones?
Thanks Sean for bringing this to our attention, and I agree that this has ‘flown underneath the radar’ but I think that there is a good reason for this. This is is a National Security Bill (counter terrorism) and therefore relates to the ‘purpose for what you are flying / photographing’. It would be the same as if on you were on the ground and photographing a military base. The key element is why you are flying in that location? I believe this law is just a case of bringing things up to date to deal with possible unlawful use of cameras on drones. The Key point is - 4 (1)(b) the conduct is… prejudicial to the safety or interests of the UK ( not getting likes on instagram!). However, In section 4(1) I believe there is a very important word - ‘inspect’ - a drone could be some distance away from the boundary of a site and inspect I.e consider the x7, x14, and x28 options on the Mavic 3 /3 Pro. Expect to be checked if flying some distance from a site, not just close to the boundary. I would be very surprised if any of the proposed locations were not already either a NFZ or a yellow authorisation area on a DJI and so would need to be unlocked to fly over (yes, I know only DJI drones are geofenced, but that’s what the vast majority of us fly in the UK). So when this does become law, don’t panic if genuinely flying in the location of these areas, but do expect to be challenged more often by the police if you are! For us commercial pilots, we would most likely already be notifying such sites as part of are pre-planning.
The definition of the term "adjacent" needs definition, what is size the zone approaching a restricted area, how. How would you know in advance to avoid a restricted area that is say, secret? Like the places that don't appear on Google maps for example, I mean if they're not on there don't exist, right? :) Will secret restricted areas be published and not longer secret. Also, off topic, but interesting, I wonder how they will enforce this for spy satellites (which I would deem as unmanned remotely controlled vehicles) passing over the restricted areas, or are they going to end up exempt? :D
So if they make all sites visible or identifiable, does this not leave the security that they are trying to secure or hide be wide open to investigation and this will be a waist of time?
I live aboard a sailboat cruising UK waters and I am very familiar with exclusion zones that we are not allowed to sail into which could be charted and fixed zones (eg 150m away from an oil platform) and also moving exclusion zones (eg 100m around and 250m in front of military vessels at Plymouth or nuclear subs up Firth of Clyde). It would seem to me that there could be a similar approach with moving exclusion zones applied to airspace around sensitive assets which it very complex for geofencing or even a pilot awareness and compliance. If I was to skirt right around a military convoy at the correct distance with my drone and then lose comms, the drone could decide to return to home point right across prohibited airspace.
It seems to me to be a catch-all legislation but I think it unlikely areas will be marked as no-fly zones, That tempts those who shouldn't fly as a way of protest. Plus security might not wish to show what they control or own, How they are going to catch 'lawbreakers' is an issue and whether those caught are automatically guilty. Its assumes the flyers will take time to try and find out where you can and cannot fly and film.
Don't see the point in all these changes on a weekly basis lol. It's getting boring now, and don't think it's related to the UK considering we get around three days of sun a year, two being high winds.
As a photographer it's hardly any hassle. I wanted a drone to enhance shots you can't get on foot, but seriously, when is all this confusion and regulations going to end? It's all off putting. I'm licenced, and PLi insured, only running a Mini 3 Pro for still shots to add to my photography. I feel like giving this hobby up as every week there's some new restriction added to the equation. There are many unlicensed drone pilots with Air2s and Mavic Pros that will never get an Op licence let alone PLi. Come on, you know what's really going on.
Great video well worth taking the time to watch... I don't think any sensible drone pilot needs to worry.. only my opinion but anyone flying over or near NFZ, RFZ I think they know what they doing and know they shouldn't..
It sounds worse than it is, I doubt it will affect where I fly, although I do check NOTAMs before I fly, drone assist is good too. I don’t do “Audit flights”
@@Geeksvana I think that maybe wishful thinking. In the hands of Councils and the Police vast areas may become 'prohibited space' (for drones and general photography) I don't trust the use of the word 'proportional' it has been used too often by the current government - usually as a cover for 'draconian'.
Scheme.. exactly. I feel for you guys. More laws that do nothing for actual protection against bad actors. At least you will be safe from law-abiding citizens.
Hi Sean, hope you are well, can I please request the pdf sheet that you have prepared and mentioned links in one of your videos, links don’t work, I am new to flying drones, thank you
Thanks for the info. Very interesting. I’ve been around since the PFAW days jumping through all the hoops and trying to keep up with all the regs and not breaking the law. Now anyone with a sub 250gram drone can do commercial work with no training. Good luck to them policing this for Tommy Two Thumbs! Thanks again, Graham
Ok, this is just an updated version of the 1911 Official Secrets act, section 1 and 3, they have added more modern interpretations of information such as trade secrets, modern technologies etc that were not around just before WW1. The white paper on this is from around 2017, so it has been in the pipeline for quite some time, the offences have been around since 1911, there are some new fines/short prison terms thrown in now for lesser offences, but these laws have been here for centuries, to protect the security of the nation. That does become harder when people ignore it, take photos or video, put it on the internet and let the rest of the world see how our military operates, movement, security protocols etc, and I know that a good 99% of the people here think it may affect their rights, it doesn't, it just protects those who protect us and our country. Apart from that, it should be common sense not to film military bases to start with, it is also covered under article 10, freedom of expression regarding National Security (as photography and drone flying are freedom of expressions, you should read it, its pretty much common sense anyway, some people do lack this though).
So many factors here. Chinese manufacturers effectively making 'law plus' for UK pilots through adding 'buffer' and extended 'no fly zones', as opposed to statutory NFZs in which it would be lawful to fly. Then we have the quiet transition, quite improper, from 120m max flight above ground beneath the drone to 120m max above launch point - all prompting Remote ID report to police to come knock on your door, potentially repeatedly. I fly in mountain areas, so can expect to be harrassed endlessly if Remote ID goes ahead as proposed. The CAA says "5000 reports to police" about UAS, but we all know how ill-informed public and authorities are; I've asked them under FoIA for numbers of those reports leading to prosecution or admission of guilt by way of police caution. I will bet a tenner that they won't be able to tell us.
This isn't as new as you think. "Protected place" sites have been with us since the 1920s. This is more of an update to the Official Secrets Act and modernising it inline with current and future technology. Despite what you say Sean, I think this IS predominantly a legislative response to "auditor" type activities. For anyone who flies responsibly and respectfully, this new legislation will have little or no impact. The only problem I see is the reference to Crown Land. I believe (may be wrong) the entire foreshore of the UK (land between high and low tide) is Crown Property. So will that restrict flying over beaches? Lets face it, those of us (Hi DJ.....👋) that fly over or close to sensitive military sites, need their drones taken off them..!
Hey! Thank you! Yes, protected and even prohibited places have been with us but this is brand new legislation with a large chunk pointed towards our little drones... The key for me is ensuring we have an effective way to get the info to drone flyers. I don't think all Crown Property will be included automatically. We should have news on that very soon though.
Im all for not flying by or over military bases and power infrastructure. Thats a no brainer, ive only had my DJI mini 3 pro for just over a week and its alot to take in. I keep thinking should i just get a refund on it. But as long as flight restricted air spaces are clear and put on drone assist ill be happy. One question, being new i have heard flight clearance to take off, do i need to request this if im flying in clear air space? And if drones assist doesn't cover you in court, what els can i do apart from looking for signs, are they're any web site that would be able to see restrictions on?
I did not expect something as in-depth, nor such clarity for the laypersons! It's worth pointing out that light aircraft bnow have more complexities coming down the tubes, at a time when the feared EU's regulations are being streamlined. Makes one wonder...
Can you please cut to the chase and get to the laws on ''Breathing, Eating of food, drinking of water and the act of sleeping providing it is under your owned roof''....the act of death by natural causes is under review as it may require assistance in the event you live to long.... all of the above, of course, is open to interpretation depending on your wealth situation.
I send my drone up everywhere. If you be discreet about dont turn up with a massive land yard round your neck and huge bag. 90% of people dont even no its in the air. Iv been to citys powerstatiom and 80% of people are interested in what iv got. And this is all because of the audit idiots i told my girlfriend 4weeks ago something will be put in place because the police will get fed uo of coming out to stupid calls. Well done guys youve reuined it for everybody.
I think your legal understanding is a little off. You seem to be saying that entering a prohibited place is an offence. As I read it, that's not correct, the offence is to enter a restricted place AND being prejudicial to the UK. It's not and or, it's an AND to be an offence. Whether it's a summary offence or more serious offence is dependent on the seriousness of the offence. Just entering a prohibited place wouldn't be a summary only offence, and if also being prejudicial to the UK increasing the seriousness of conviction. It's either an offence or it's not.
We have been fully briefed by the MoD, Home Office and others. The interpretation is correct. Entering the airspace would be an offence, whatever the reason you are there.
There is clearly an "and" in the requirement for it to be an offence. To get those answers I doubt a general MOD bod will fully understand legal terminology, and a barrister and those who drafted the legislation would be better placed to advise. I expect this is why there is the ability for the police to tell someone to clear off, so that if you're there taking a photo of the sunset looking the other direction which isn't a security risk, but they were worried, a copper could tell you to buzz off.
@amwphotos It wasn't a general MoD bod. You have your opinion and I was simply answering you. Please don't make assumptions about the research, which is correct. Thanks.
@@Geeksvana yep that's fine, but were they involved in the production of the legislation, or are they interpreting the output from their slant? It would be interesting to see what a barrister thinks, or those who drafted the legislation. Having worked with legal council there is importance to the intention of what is written and not just the words as written. It's a minefield! Thanks for replying, always interesting content from your channel.
I have a drone and live in France regulations here are far more strict. As for drones I agree lots of people don't like them but I use mine to take nice photos of nice places. The mayor of our village asked if I was flying over the village as there had been a complaint. It was not me and the only reason she approached me was down to the fact that I told her I had a drone. It was another person not me. As for this legislation how far with the government go before they restrict everything that people do. I also feel that this legislation may be abused by the police especially for the audit people to be honest I saw this coming.
Not the best link I know. My comment was highlighting the Authorities' keenness to protect its buildings (from a guy with a drone!) when it clearly can't protect its employees details. @@Geeksvana
With recording technology becoming more accurate, with remote controlled devices being used effecively within conflicts, with support for a side in a conflict, this was inevitable. Tom Davies [geowizard] straight line missions also may have to be more careful, due to his recording devices.
So, will there be a 'process' that decides who gets these no fly zones? Is it a similar 'process' that puts Russians in the HoL because if it is, a donation to Conservative party funds could end up securing one.
So this hinges on the evidence and proof to prosecute under that aspect don't get drawn into incorrect assessment this is to protect not against a drone used as hobby . There's also the TSA that also has increased security for Telecommunications.
Let's hope flying over ANY commercial business site is put as prohibited. I see people putting videos on TH-cam were they fly over all sorts of commercial sites, just for TH-cam likes. They fly over these sites without giving any care to various types of threats, or commercial that they can cause, I doubt very much a business can get insured against drones flying over there business.
Hmmm. Struggling to see how the consideration, or let’s face it, common sense of how and where you decide to operate your drone regarding deemed National Security sites is any different to the same (but equally as rare) common sense you should exercise regarding the public and GDPR considerations given there’s a camera attached. For ‘device’ read ‘camera with a 600mm lens’ and I don’t see drones being targeted here but certainly being included. I’m no fan of how the CAA, DoT etc apply knee jerk reactions and implement new/amended/updated/deleted policies with no simplified means of notifying hobbyists or formally registered operators and feel this is something that needs addressed more urgently than any other aspect. If they expect registered hobbyists/operators to be able to comply with these implementations, they need to use the information they hold on us (our email addresses) to do that hugely complex (sarcasm intended) mail out that so many marketers employ to give us the necessary means to implement it. Or are they still using pigeons and semaphore?
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Great that you are doing these videos. It would be a real help if you would do a 5-min version with the key highlights. Sometimes I don't have 3/4 hour to spare!
I tend to watch a lot of TH-cam content at 2x speed. Especially American content, who speak slowly.
What about when the dash cam in your car captures a prohibited place as you drive by?
Some twenty or so years ago, people taking photographs in public places were starting to be persecuted. Thankfully, common sense prevailed and better training of police and security forces preserved the right to do so. Sadly, it appears that it's starting to reverse and potentially get even worse than before. Very Orwellian 😢
It's ironic that the biggest threat to the security of the UK is the influx of large numbers of people with unkown intent
So, what are they going to do about Google earth?? Because let's face it, I don't need a drone to look at something, I don't actually need to leave my house when Google can show me anything I want!
Don't worry - they are also pushing forward with plans to restrict our internet access too, so pretty soon Google Earth will only be available via Digital Online I.D. and even then it could be heavily redacted for us poor plebs.
You don't realise how censored Google is already...
@@Sk8WineMedia I know you can have images removed or blurred out...but I also know Google do a survey service using their satellites with higher resolution than we see on their earth service..( for a price )
Essentially all this gives is the ability to monitor airspace users more effectively and then to charge those users to use that airspace.
Does the blame fall on these Auditors who are not actually auditing just out to be confrontational and use drones for this purpose.?
Frauditors are nothing but a bunch of attention-seeking morons.
"these auditors" ? You mean people exercising rights so you don't have to...wet wipe
Totally agree 👍🏾
they don't help, that's for sure. but most of those clowns were doing same with cameras before they got drones, drone is just another tool in their arsenal of annoying tech.
Yes damn right it does idiots with drones not auditors at all and will definitely ruin this for everyone
I'm a little late to the party, but even before this came about, I'm actually slightly afraid of sending my drone up into the air in fear of being somewhere that I shouldn't be, unbeknown to me.
Checking bylaws for example.
Apps like drone assist will only tell me so much.
A lot of places I'd like to fly, the land owners (for all intents and purposes) such as CADW, Welsh water, national trust etc all explicitly prohibit drone flights.
Most beaches near me are SSSI's
As a result my drone has remained safely in its box for months now, untouched
As I understand, unless there’s a formal no-fly zone in place, they can’t prevent you flying over their property - only taking off and landing from it.
@ajc97436 presumably only if you enter the property to attempt retrieval. Otherwise it would be like trying to prosecute someone for trespass because their football came over the fence.
Keep up the good work Sean. It’s so tiring to try and keep up with new laws.
The CAA should hire you as a spokesperson.
They need to make a decision and stick to it and stop making so complicated for a casual hobbiest and even professionals.
I feel they need one app that can show exactly where you can and can’t fly, fly your drone from, apply for permission to fly in certain areas, show flight conditions and new law updates. How else can people keep up with this?
Hopefully they will be sensible with their restrictions 🤞
I really do not care whatsoever about flying drone laws :) I'll be the judge of where I will fly my drone and when. I don't make any trouble and I'm not silly with it, and I don't fly near other flying vehicles so they can change the laws as much as they like. Not interested in what they are.
@@bobdawkins7473 I think you might be if you’re breaking a rule and approached by the police 🤷🏻♂️ Who needs that aggravation
@@Kurlach you can get a airbnb apartment on the city and use by your window. Nobody sees a DJI Air 3 drone during the day if you are at least 60meters above the ground. Outside the city, nobody sees or care
It’s not limited to photography from drones, or government-owned land. My reading of it is that it restricts regular camera use at industrial locations.
Yes, 100% wider than drones for sure. That was just my focus in this show as we cover drones. Great point to make, thank you!
Private companies will love this, and ‘No Drone’ signs will go up everywhere.
Probably big business driving it. They're all so secretive. Some must have lots to hide I suppose.
So ...elaborate ..flying over a warehouse ...how are they likely to get approval for a no fly zone ...a warehouse ...this would be prejudicial to the UK 🤔..how?
Corruption. Big business=government.
Who bailed out the banks in 2008? Taxpayers. Who is bailing out the banks today? Mortgage payers.
you can blame all those guys that have been going around .........deliberately........upsetting land/factory owners...
@@The_Summit_Wanderermaybe not all warehouses but any with a govt contract like BAE systems down to a mundane supplier of office consumables who service the govt.
The way it's going we won't be able to fly anywhere in the UK too many rules and regulations
That's exactly where it is headed. This is with everything too. Electric scooters, cars, drones. They don't want you owning anything!
Well, that's put an end to my thoughts on getting a drone. I can see the police using this legislation to stop pretty much every drone flight that a private company takes exception to, especially if they have any connection to the gov
In general I don't like or watch audit channels, but in the same way that a free press frequently oversteps bounds, I still prefer to have it even with the intrusion and annoyance caused because all these things provide useful oversight, it is after all our country - ALL of us, not just those in power.
Hey Nick! Agree completely!
So you wouldn't mind my drone hovering outside your bedroom window?
The amazing technology that drones embrace, allows those somewhat dubious characters to exploit other peoples rights and freedoms. If everyone flew their drones sensibly, there would be no need for legislation like this. But they don't.....so there is.
The auditors have done a tiny bit of exposing wrongdoers. They're mostly idiotic criminals themselves, with a grudge against any form of authority or restriction. They prey on people using half truths, lies and ambiguities and misrepresentation of legislation. "Reeling them in" is a good thing not a bad one. Preferably before they damage the hobby and legitimate use of drones, beyond repair.
I see no reason why any private business should be audited unless suspected wrong doing, especially as you can bet most of the time the auditor isn’t even a customer. They use the trespass laws to antagonise knowing it’s a civil offence, their aim is to provoke but would not like it if reversed.
It’s all about TH-cam income!
£££££ in the guise of auditing.I mean.How do you audit a business where 99% of the activity takes place inside a building with a drone?
Thanks for bringing this new Act to our attention.
It says much about the MSM that I have seen no mention of it in the press. I wonder what Liberty and similar action groups make of it?
Add this legislation to the Terrorism Act and the recent Protest Act revisions and the police have a recipe book to restrict and control public sight of what could be embarrassing
I noted that the legislation says photographing in the prohibited areas, or vicinities, is an offence. So a potential outcome could be the ability of the Police to enforce the, currently unenforceable , signs that get put up on fences saying 'NO Photography'. So the current 'legal to take photos from a public place' mantra is now defunct. The ability for areas to become sensitive 'on the fly' is particularly worrying.
Next problem - I'm walking the street innocently passing a 'Prohibited Area' and the police use their stop and search power to pat me down. They find a notebook listing Prohibited Areas (or even an APP on my phone) and now they can use the 'equipped for terrorism' laws to arrest or detain me. 'He was covertly carrying a list of government targets your honour' - remember there are freely available book titles that have got people imprisoned because circumstances ' linked' them to potential 'terrorism'.
The strange thing is I would fully support this type of legislation where it only related to the military - that's a no brainer - but as written it can be used to effectively remove, from visual scrutiny, anything or everything associated with the internal government of the country and it's population - in other words I fear most the Police not the Army, Navy or Air Force.
Regrettably it is too late - very clever of them to get it through Parliament without comment or public scrutiny.
@@reecechadwick8504exactly what I do, I'm harming noone end of. World's gone mad.
Fly your drone unless in restricted airspace. That is LITERALLY what this entire video is about. New restricted airspace 🤦♂️🤦♂️
Remember you where a terrorist for taking a photo of the police car park😂
Clown society.
But my local cop Sam Brown Fife constabulary police scotland...
Can hire UFC fighters from russia to assault his victims.
The brain dead government need to stop giving corrupt cops more powers.
Are the police going to stop us in our cars and interrogate our Dashcams ?
Wasn't it a drone user who caught the person starting the fires in Europe.
I guess we could all go to Ukraine and fly our drones there. There's no restrictions there as far as I've watched on TH-cam. You can even strap thing's to your drone and drop them on anything you don't like. 🤫
mr putin would like a word with you !!
This is exactly what the government is afraid of......its not about foreign actors, when push comes to shove, its about you.
Territorial sites are already of limits (marked as no fly zones in my location) even some individual buildings , Scotland .
It's not just about drones, it's about stopping the recording of any images of these areas.
The whole photography thing is crazy on first looks. No more photos of Buckingham Palace, Houses of Parliament and the likes....
Also interesting, I'm sure that I saw the viewing of images of these areas is also included in the law. So anyone looking up these places on Google maps/earth are open to prosecution 🤯.
Good luck to anyone who hates public photography yet likes dashcams.
Coastlines are Crown Estate lands , so say bye bye to filming there .
“Crown Estate is the prima facie owner of all foreshore (and seabed) by virtue of prerogative right. This, in effect, means that the Crown Estate owns all of the foreshore”
Unless they sold it off .
So they can define all MOD cars (even undercover) and ban you from flying near or over a moving target meaning it could be illegal to fly ANYWHWRE.
Haven't watched the whole video but one point I would raise is, if they detail EVERY location that's covered by this legislation somewhere, surely that's a national security risk in itself?
the caa should have to email everyone who has registered to fly a drone all the new rules they make us do test and register the drone so why cant they send info out to us as like a few have said the hobbyist just wants to fly a drone and dose not always keep upto date with the laws changeing all the time or the caa should have ther own fly app and mark down all the area we can and cant fly
The BBC is reporting today that the UK has decided to keep / recognise the European CE marking / conformity scheme indefinitely for various products including fireworks , toys and radio equipment, so does anyone know if this means the C1 marking on the Mavic classic will now be recognised in the UK?
I started flying drones about ten years ago and have to say, I’m checked out at this point. Every month there’s legislation, trying to find somewhere I’m permitted to fly near me is almost impossible and when you do you get approached by uneducated Police and public. Not exactly enjoyable. Another example of doing something you enjoy and having it squeezed until you have to find something else to do.
Would a terry-wrist actually give a f...lipping heck about about where they're allowed to fly?
"Oh no, the Military Installation is out of bounds". "Don't worry Comrade, we can fly into this National Trust Gift Shop and destroy their scented candle display".
Not the candles! (Love the anti comment filter terry-wrist, very nice!)
Listening after the session, on the beach in Zante, Greece..
So are all the existing Google images of ‘Prohibited Places’ now going to be redacted?
If Google then go back over ‘prohibited places’ , will Google be jailed ?
I guess they'll be more blurred out images on Street view.
What makes me think this will eventually be worded to include "no fly zones" around any police vehicles and officers? Subsequently, if someone sends their drone up and starts filming a huge public protest against the government, the police being in attendance would automatically makes it an offence to fly there, and the cops could (Using remote ID) bundle the pilot into the back of a van and lock them away before the footage can be uploaded and be picked up by the alternative media.
Also, who are these laws put in place to control? Foreign nations engaging in espionage won't comply, so how will the laws do anything other than just impact the law abiding citizens?
Its about you.....the government is afraid of you and the tools you might possess to push back once they go too far.
Thank you, very thorough. I would like to just make a couple of points if i may.
Firstly is intention: the why etc of what we doing with our drones.
Secondly is this: with the MOD etc protecting sites with no fly zones etc, what the world will have is a perfect map with every UK MOD research site, military base etc etc complete with coords and polygons. With the satellite tek now available, 6cm spatial res, add that to the new UK Gov NFZ map, seems a bit like national security need to think more.
This may well include UK Utility Infrastructure, for example large Grid substations not just power stations
Under the first section. Would a photography drone really be classed as transport to classify as a vehicle.
You shouldn’t be flying your drone near sensitive areas anyways. Though I appreciate the information you raise each week. Your channel often contains a rhetoric that all drone pilots are out to cause criminal acts. Which they do not.
The simple question here is that the CAA and all the government bodies are moving so swiftly with changes to the entire legislation that the information they provide isn’t clear enough for the uneducated pilot to adhere to. The hobbyist relies on the manufactures mapping system to tell them where and when they can or can not fly. The hobbyist won’t go online to look at the National Security Act 2023. And no one is going to be sent to prison for 14 years unless it’s for intentional spying.
I agree share the info out, but lower the panic button a bit.
We support drone flyers of all types and I happily pointed that out during the show tonight. Sadly, being the messenger is not always the easiest role. If the story is concerning, that is how it is angled.
We usually keep the panic to a minimum but I have to say that elements of this new legislation are very concerning and we need to ensure we get clarity to prevent restrictions slipping in.
So the drone manufacturers with up to date reliable software will be trusted and rewarded with custom. It happened with sat navs.
@@Geeksvana Reading between the lines, you may be thinking what I am. This is the "first wave".
Nicely worded brother.
It is very important that someone takes ownership of explaining these changes. So I applaud this channel for raising the information and having an open discussion.
But it does highlight how the CAA and governing bodies fail to engage with pilots who have purchased and registered a drone.
It’s crazy that topics on National Security that could change how pilots operate in future are raised via TH-cam.
The CAA and governing bodies need to officiate an amenable solution. This could be in the form of a channel like this one to get this type of info out there. Either way. There’s a lot of changes still to come. The industry needs better guidance from those institutions.
I’ve no problem with this. However, I hope all prohibited areas and restrictions will be clearly identifiable and readily available and not left to guesswork and days of desktop feasibility studies for operators. The Altitude Angel team will be busy! Thanks for bringing this to our attention so quickly Sean. Be warned though, this, unfortunately, will be a buffet of Karen fodder, just saying! Will the UK be going down the USA DJI banning route I wonder.
Think that will be under the drone flyers responsibility to find that out.
we are a small country so this may end up with a blanket ban every where in the uk has some sort of installation
they are frightened of cameras another thin end of the wedge
Thanks for the update on the New National Security Bill Laws.
I pose a question, will these new laws extend to information already gained and published?
For example, will certain TH-cam videos be ordered to be taken down and any recorded information already held in storage be confiscated?
This question I believe will likely be answered in the coming months/years.
Police: Can you turn off your dash cam please, your driving adjacent to a protected place and your actions could be detrimental to the UK!
It doesn't quite work like that, it is the person rather than the dash cam, if you use the dash cam footage then you could in theory be done, but as most dashcam footage is just overwritten, it will be down to the use of the footage.
@@tonyb1223 If you retain the dash cam footage as evidence for any possible court procedings, for insurance, for education or for entertainment and don't overwrite it in theory because we don't like you as a person we'll nick you. Police: Hello, hello. What's going on here then?
@@tonytouch7823 You understand that dashcams have a setting to save certain parts of the footage under emergency conditions, (usually by pressing a button), the rest will be overwritten.
what is the definition of a Drone in the UK? in Canada the name includes all RC controlled flying modes.
Compressed version of the story: Keep your eye on Drone Assist and your good to go.
Will this backfire and be a list of places for those who wish to disrupt thing to ‘attack’? A case of look here are all our secret bases etc?
Yep IF they get Google to redact sensitive areas off their maps , that will essentially be a ‘hit list’ of locations for (let’s say) the Russian’s who have made threats on Russian TV , to attack all the blurred /redacted areas 😮
If so, well done , it will be invaluable to terrorists😮
I don't know that this necessarily means much for flyers - but it could, it depends on how it is used.
This country has laws about everything, really, there is little one can do that cannot be brought in the orbit of some law if there is a will to do so. I recall being told that a group of three or more people in public can be considered to break some law. Is that used much? No, not really - but it was used in the miners strike to turn back carloads of supporters.
So it is more about trusting the reasonableness and proportionality of the authorities than anything else.
So, no problem there ....
Sounds like there will be soon no drones in UK at all.
How do you even get anywhere close to that conclusion?
Sean, thank you for your usual excellent analysis of the new act.
I personally think it’s overkill, surely, for less effort that the new act imposes they could just make the relevant areas/sites no fly zones?
Without you the public and private stakeholders would, without a doubt, not be considered. Keep it up!
Thanks Sean for bringing this to our attention, and I agree that this has ‘flown underneath the radar’ but I think that there is a good reason for this.
This is is a National Security Bill (counter terrorism) and therefore relates to the ‘purpose for what you are flying / photographing’. It would be the same as if on you were on the ground and photographing a military base. The key element is why you are flying in that location? I believe this law is just a case of bringing things up to date to deal with possible unlawful use of cameras on drones.
The Key point is - 4 (1)(b) the conduct is… prejudicial to the safety or interests of the UK ( not getting likes on instagram!).
However, In section 4(1) I believe there is a very important word - ‘inspect’ - a drone could be some distance away from the boundary of a site and inspect I.e consider the x7, x14, and x28 options on the Mavic 3 /3 Pro. Expect to be checked if flying some distance from a site, not just close to the boundary.
I would be very surprised if any of the proposed locations were not already either a NFZ or a yellow authorisation area on a DJI and so would need to be unlocked to fly over (yes, I know only DJI drones are geofenced, but that’s what the vast majority of us fly in the UK).
So when this does become law, don’t panic if genuinely flying in the location of these areas, but do expect to be challenged more often by the police if you are! For us commercial pilots, we would most likely already be notifying such sites as part of are pre-planning.
The definition of the term "adjacent" needs definition, what is size the zone approaching a restricted area, how. How would you know in advance to avoid a restricted area that is say, secret? Like the places that don't appear on Google maps for example, I mean if they're not on there don't exist, right? :) Will secret restricted areas be published and not longer secret. Also, off topic, but interesting, I wonder how they will enforce this for spy satellites (which I would deem as unmanned remotely controlled vehicles) passing over the restricted areas, or are they going to end up exempt? :D
So if they make all sites visible or identifiable, does this not leave the security that they are trying to secure or hide be wide open to investigation and this will be a waist of time?
Windsor an example ! its not just the castle boundary ! Drones have great zoom capability
A Drone with zoom lense capability can get s clear view from the boundary hence the fear that zones are put around
I was wondering how long it would take for laws to change to suit these businesses from Drone Auditors :D
I live aboard a sailboat cruising UK waters and I am very familiar with exclusion zones that we are not allowed to sail into which could be charted and fixed zones (eg 150m away from an oil platform) and also moving exclusion zones (eg 100m around and 250m in front of military vessels at Plymouth or nuclear subs up Firth of Clyde). It would seem to me that there could be a similar approach with moving exclusion zones applied to airspace around sensitive assets which it very complex for geofencing or even a pilot awareness and compliance. If I was to skirt right around a military convoy at the correct distance with my drone and then lose comms, the drone could decide to return to home point right across prohibited airspace.
It seems to me to be a catch-all legislation but I think it unlikely areas will be marked as no-fly zones, That tempts those who shouldn't fly as a way of protest. Plus security might not wish to show what they control or own,
How they are going to catch 'lawbreakers' is an issue and whether those caught are automatically guilty. Its assumes the flyers will take time to try and find out where you can and cannot fly and film.
Police stations bound to be included - bye bye auditors
Good as I don’t find them entertaining.
Don't see the point in all these changes on a weekly basis lol. It's getting boring now, and don't think it's related to the UK considering we get around three days of sun a year, two being high winds.
Yes agreed! Unfortunately, we have the Open category review coming later this year. Hoping things will settle down after that.
As a photographer it's hardly any hassle. I wanted a drone to enhance shots you can't get on foot, but seriously, when is all this confusion and regulations going to end? It's all off putting. I'm licenced, and PLi insured, only running a Mini 3 Pro for still shots to add to my photography. I feel like giving this hobby up as every week there's some new restriction added to the equation. There are many unlicensed drone pilots with Air2s and Mavic Pros that will never get an Op licence let alone PLi. Come on, you know what's really going on.
Great video well worth taking the time to watch... I don't think any sensible drone pilot needs to worry.. only my opinion but anyone flying over or near NFZ, RFZ I think they know what they doing and know they shouldn't..
It sounds worse than it is, I doubt it will affect where I fly, although I do check NOTAMs before I fly, drone assist is good too.
I don’t do “Audit flights”
Hey Rob! Yes, if the comms are clear and it all appears on the usual Drone Assist apps etc, is shouldn't get in our way too much.
@@Geeksvana I think that maybe wishful thinking.
In the hands of Councils and the Police vast areas may become 'prohibited space' (for drones and general photography)
I don't trust the use of the word 'proportional' it has been used too often by the current government - usually as a cover for 'draconian'.
Thankyou Sean. Very interesting information as always 👍 Really appreciate how helpful your channel is. Keep up the great work 👍 😀
Scheme.. exactly. I feel for you guys. More laws that do nothing for actual protection against bad actors. At least you will be safe from law-abiding citizens.
aww this means menwith hill near me. really wanted to go there and fly one evening as it wasnt restricted until this
Hi Sean, hope you are well, can I please request the pdf sheet that you have prepared and mentioned links in one of your videos, links don’t work, I am new to flying drones, thank you
Hey! I am well thanks. Hope you are too. Which PDF is it you are looking for? The leaflets?
Any crown land? So that includes crown foreshore then?
Only if they apply to include a facility/building/land. It will not automatically include all Crown Land, and we are not aware of any plan to do so.
Thanks for the info. Very interesting. I’ve been around since the PFAW days jumping through all the hoops and trying to keep up with all the regs and not breaking the law. Now anyone with a sub 250gram drone can do commercial work with no training. Good luck to them policing this for Tommy Two Thumbs!
Thanks again,
Graham
Ok, this is just an updated version of the 1911 Official Secrets act, section 1 and 3, they have added more modern interpretations of information such as trade secrets, modern technologies etc that were not around just before WW1.
The white paper on this is from around 2017, so it has been in the pipeline for quite some time, the offences have been around since 1911, there are some new fines/short prison terms thrown in now for lesser offences, but these laws have been here for centuries, to protect the security of the nation.
That does become harder when people ignore it, take photos or video, put it on the internet and let the rest of the world see how our military operates, movement, security protocols etc, and I know that a good 99% of the people here think it may affect their rights, it doesn't, it just protects those who protect us and our country.
Apart from that, it should be common sense not to film military bases to start with, it is also covered under article 10, freedom of expression regarding National Security (as photography and drone flying are freedom of expressions, you should read it, its pretty much common sense anyway, some people do lack this though).
So many factors here. Chinese manufacturers effectively making 'law plus' for UK pilots through adding 'buffer' and extended 'no fly zones', as opposed to statutory NFZs in which it would be lawful to fly. Then we have the quiet transition, quite improper, from 120m max flight above ground beneath the drone to 120m max above launch point - all prompting Remote ID report to police to come knock on your door, potentially repeatedly. I fly in mountain areas, so can expect to be harrassed endlessly if Remote ID goes ahead as proposed. The CAA says "5000 reports to police" about UAS, but we all know how ill-informed public and authorities are; I've asked them under FoIA for numbers of those reports leading to prosecution or admission of guilt by way of police caution. I will bet a tenner that they won't be able to tell us.
This isn't as new as you think. "Protected place" sites have been with us since the 1920s. This is more of an update to the Official Secrets Act and modernising it inline with current and future technology. Despite what you say Sean, I think this IS predominantly a legislative response to "auditor" type activities.
For anyone who flies responsibly and respectfully, this new legislation will have little or no impact.
The only problem I see is the reference to Crown Land. I believe (may be wrong) the entire foreshore of the UK (land between high and low tide) is Crown Property. So will that restrict flying over beaches?
Lets face it, those of us (Hi DJ.....👋) that fly over or close to sensitive military sites, need their drones taken off them..!
Hey! Thank you! Yes, protected and even prohibited places have been with us but this is brand new legislation with a large chunk pointed towards our little drones... The key for me is ensuring we have an effective way to get the info to drone flyers.
I don't think all Crown Property will be included automatically. We should have news on that very soon though.
Im all for not flying by or over military bases and power infrastructure. Thats a no brainer, ive only had my DJI mini 3 pro for just over a week and its alot to take in. I keep thinking should i just get a refund on it. But as long as flight restricted air spaces are clear and put on drone assist ill be happy. One question, being new i have heard flight clearance to take off, do i need to request this if im flying in clear air space? And if drones assist doesn't cover you in court, what els can i do apart from looking for signs, are they're any web site that would be able to see restrictions on?
Does this cover Hi Res sat images ?
Lancashire July ... 268% of average rainfall....
this is a very good job -- thank you.
shoot the messenger comes to mind😂 but thanks for the update i quess, i couldnt give 2 shits, i fly for fun and a escape from my everyday life 👍
I am very grateful for an awesome audience who do not put me in front of a firing line 😂🤣. Flying for fun is the best way!
Sean interesting as always👍 Hope your keeping well.
Thank you! I am good, hope you are?
I have to wonder if this is to stop auditors on youtube?
how long before the police think this law applies to their sites such as police stations.
I did not expect something as in-depth, nor such clarity for the laypersons!
It's worth pointing out that light aircraft bnow have more complexities coming down the tubes, at a time when the feared EU's regulations are being streamlined.
Makes one wonder...
Can you please cut to the chase and get to the laws on ''Breathing, Eating of food, drinking
of water and the act of sleeping providing it is under your owned roof''....the act of death by
natural causes is under review as it may require assistance in the event you live to long....
all of the above, of course, is open to interpretation depending on your wealth situation.
Anyone who thinks this will thwart "professional" hostile reconnaissance would be very wrong. The fun Police have spoken. .Obey Surfs!
Hi Sean where do you get your European drone insurance from I’m going to Germany soon.
I send my drone up everywhere. If you be discreet about dont turn up with a massive land yard round your neck and huge bag. 90% of people dont even no its in the air. Iv been to citys powerstatiom and 80% of people are interested in what iv got. And this is all because of the audit idiots i told my girlfriend 4weeks ago something will be put in place because the police will get fed uo of coming out to stupid calls. Well done guys youve reuined it for everybody.
I must say I love your vids man keep at it 🤌🏽 I’ve been watching you for 2 years and I feel like it’s the equivalent to a university phd🤝
At last perhaps something to stop some ‘auditors’ from trying to justify their antagonistic interactions that are working well to ruin it for us all..
Yayy, more restrictions.
😐🙄 Maybe one day we will report on some happier news. There are a couple of stories brewing...
Don't get too excited.
There's a lot more to come.
I think your legal understanding is a little off. You seem to be saying that entering a prohibited place is an offence. As I read it, that's not correct, the offence is to enter a restricted place AND being prejudicial to the UK. It's not and or, it's an AND to be an offence. Whether it's a summary offence or more serious offence is dependent on the seriousness of the offence. Just entering a prohibited place wouldn't be a summary only offence, and if also being prejudicial to the UK increasing the seriousness of conviction. It's either an offence or it's not.
We have been fully briefed by the MoD, Home Office and others. The interpretation is correct. Entering the airspace would be an offence, whatever the reason you are there.
There is clearly an "and" in the requirement for it to be an offence. To get those answers I doubt a general MOD bod will fully understand legal terminology, and a barrister and those who drafted the legislation would be better placed to advise. I expect this is why there is the ability for the police to tell someone to clear off, so that if you're there taking a photo of the sunset looking the other direction which isn't a security risk, but they were worried, a copper could tell you to buzz off.
@amwphotos It wasn't a general MoD bod. You have your opinion and I was simply answering you. Please don't make assumptions about the research, which is correct. Thanks.
@@Geeksvana yep that's fine, but were they involved in the production of the legislation, or are they interpreting the output from their slant? It would be interesting to see what a barrister thinks, or those who drafted the legislation. Having worked with legal council there is importance to the intention of what is written and not just the words as written. It's a minefield! Thanks for replying, always interesting content from your channel.
This will restrict the auditors
Drones haven't even done nothing much seems odd that this makes them so nervous
The uk gov needs to develop a phone app for drone rc users job done big brother is watching !!! next will be 20mph zones........
Is this why apps like AirMap shut down, because of these new regs?
I have a drone and live in France regulations here are far more strict. As for drones I agree lots of people don't like them but I use mine to take nice photos of nice places. The mayor of our village asked if I was flying over the village as there had been a complaint. It was not me and the only reason she approached me was down to the fact that I told her I had a drone. It was another person not me. As for this legislation how far with the government go before they restrict everything that people do. I also feel that this legislation may be abused by the police especially for the audit people to be honest I saw this coming.
How about prosecuting the people/person responsible for leaking the details of security staff in Northern Ireland this week!
What has that got to do with this story? How about they find and prosecute any criminal? One issue does not change the other.
Not the best link I know. My comment was highlighting the Authorities' keenness to protect its buildings (from a guy with a drone!) when it clearly can't protect its employees details. @@Geeksvana
Any and all Legislation is contract law,, no victim, contract = law - law = contract consent is needed, or just fear will work on most thuo
With recording technology becoming more accurate, with remote controlled devices being used effecively within conflicts, with support for a side in a conflict, this was inevitable. Tom Davies [geowizard] straight line missions also may have to be more careful, due to his recording devices.
So, will there be a 'process' that decides who gets these no fly zones? Is it a similar 'process' that puts Russians in the HoL because if it is, a donation to Conservative party funds could end up securing one.
So this hinges on the evidence and proof to prosecute under that aspect don't get drawn into incorrect assessment this is to protect not against a drone used as hobby . There's also the TSA that also has increased security for Telecommunications.
Housebound buddy so couldn't fly a drone even if I had one!
Thanks for this Sean, always informative and insightful, appreciate your hard work guys.
Let's hope flying over ANY commercial business site is put as prohibited. I see people putting videos on TH-cam were they fly over all sorts of commercial sites, just for TH-cam likes. They fly over these sites without giving any care to various types of threats, or commercial that they can cause, I doubt very much a business can get insured against drones flying over there business.
Hmmm. Struggling to see how the consideration, or let’s face it, common sense of how and where you decide to operate your drone regarding deemed National Security sites is any different to the same (but equally as rare) common sense you should exercise regarding the public and GDPR considerations given there’s a camera attached. For ‘device’ read ‘camera with a 600mm lens’ and I don’t see drones being targeted here but certainly being included.
I’m no fan of how the CAA, DoT etc apply knee jerk reactions and implement new/amended/updated/deleted policies with no simplified means of notifying hobbyists or formally registered operators and feel this is something that needs addressed more urgently than any other aspect. If they expect registered hobbyists/operators to be able to comply with these implementations, they need to use the information they hold on us (our email addresses) to do that hugely complex (sarcasm intended) mail out that so many marketers employ to give us the necessary means to implement it.
Or are they still using pigeons and semaphore?
Time to start kite flying with a camera attached... or take up paramotoring - Less Legislation there !
I wonder what google satellites do now.
4 subsection (1) appears to cover the whole world.