I have both the regular and ruggedized version of this red dot. They both run great from .22 to 12ga slugs. I have the lighter version on my 5.56 ar15 and the rugged version on my 7.62x39 ar15. No complaints after 2 years of constant use.
@@Sparkyyy.380 I sold the optic to a friend months ago, haven't heard anything back about it. For $100, get a Sig romeo5 or Bushnell TRS-25 those designs are well proven.
@@Sparkyyy.380 the romeo5 is higher quality than the TRS in terms of glass and LED. I have both and prefer the romeo5. They're not bad for entry level optics. The romeo5 has a slight blue tint to the glass and the TRS is yellowish with a smaller objective lens. I started with those red dots and worked up to the higher end Holosun and primary arms prism scopes. Once you get into the $300+ range optics quality improves immensely, but I know not everyone can afford them.
@@SuspiciousGanymede thanks dude you’ve really helped me pick, this is my first build and I’ve been trying to decide on spending a little extra for a holosun or getting a Romeo but I’m only going to be using it for the range and play around shooting home defense ect.
I had one of these. bright snug to see clearly in bright sun. Worked great for awhile. But eventually recoil killed it (223/556 with a muzzle brake). warranty replaced it, but decided to sell it and go with something else.
i have this exact same sight on my DPMS AR15 5.56 and find it very very useful for 3 guns competition and quite accurate up to 200 yards which is the furthest distance i tried yet with this set-up .... i even did put another one just like it on my beloved Ruger Deerfield .44 magnum carbine for still hunting close range whitetails ... fantastic fast sight to use and very affordable ...
I don't understand the paralax comments. I am looking for something to put on a Browing Buckmark .22 pistol (never hunted with a pistol before). I hunt squirrels with dogs so I'm mostly shooting up and close ranges. Would this be a good option? Or are there other things I should consider?
Parallax is a visual effect that causes something you see between your eye and another more distant object appear to move relative to the distant object. An example is a gauge, where the needle may appear to be over a different number depending upon the angle you look at the meter. In this case, it is also caused by the height of the dot over the center of the bore. The further away your target is, the less this matters (hence the 30yds for this one). Lower profile red-dots like the Burris Fast-Fire 3 reduce this effect significantly. This particular one is a bit bulky and heavy for a pistol, it will work but is better suited to a rifle. Lower profile ones like the Fast-Fire 3 and RMR work much better on a pistol.
used mine on a CZ evo 1 sent 100 rounds thru it and it started flickering with every shot and turning off. sent for replacement from amazon if it fails I'm going with Holosun. I love the price on this one though and its low profile, perfect for Evo 1
I have 12 10-22's in my collection and tried a number of dot sights that were no good on the two anniversary models. Has this one held up well for you? I really like the green better, seems easier to see so I need the dual color. What is the exact model number if available? Thanks, good video.
Thank-you. These are definitely not the most prestigious red-dots available but they have held up well and hold zero. We have several, including one on a .308/7.62. I find them on Amazon all the time for between $60 and $80. I am pretty sure the part # is TG8380B. We even have on on a 10/22 Charger (cool little gun!)
It is unlikely that you will find one, most of them are very specific to the red-dot they work on and are typically found with the higher end ones. If the height and centerline are not perfectly matched you will get distortion.
Yes, on our DPMS Oracle it co-witnesses with the flip-up sights. Though if you have the fixed front post sight then the dot will be on the pin of the front sight which may be distracting.
I have not encountered a wash-out, this thing can get really bright. I am sure it is possible if the light hits just right and you are using one of the smallest available reticles. One note is that it does tend to "flare" at high brightness so the reticle will get "fatter" and be less precise (most red-dots will do the same thing as well, but maybe to a lesser extent).
currently run a Burris AR-F3 on my PCC for steel challenge and have no issues with it in sunlight. i just dont want to spend 200 plus on a red dot for a .22 rifle but it seems some of the cheaper sights really wash out in bright sunlight.
Other than the oversize of the unit, I purchased one to install on my 1911 target pistol. Initially when sighting in with the in bore laser, I loved all the bright, options of color change, and 1 to 5 MOA adjustments. I went to the range, shot the pistol 30 times and the optic exploded, ripped the vertical adjustment screw out ot the mounting bracket, loosened all screws on all brackets and is now Junk! Now I know why TruGlo does not offer any email or phone numbers. Their sight set was nice that I installed on another pistol, definitely not this piece of Garbage! $60.93 down the toilet.
Would you tell me please if this product is still working ok for you? I was thinking on getting it for my ruger mark IV. Thank you so much for your time!
Yes, the ones we have are working great. I have seen a few people with issues, but overall they work well. The price is right, though now you can get some seriously good and much smaller units for in the $250 range if the budget allows.
In some cases it is just price, the more expensive ones have a famous name associated with them but offer no more features or reliability. In other cases, there are size and quality differences. Truly higher-end devices will often be smaller, lighter and have a more refined/sharp reticle. For example, I have a Burris FastFire III on my Glock 40 and it is much smaller and lighter with a sharper dot, but it was $300ish instead of $75ish. In the case of a pistol I use for hunting that was important and worth the cost. In the case of an AK or an AR in the way I choose to use those particular guns, the less expensive TruGlo was good enough. So, it will come down to how you intend to use it and how important size/weight/clarity are for that particular case versus the cost.
Yoko Kurama well aimpoints cost so much because they are battle proven and have a long battery life. The comp m4 has an 80,000 hour battery life. This thing in the video would not stand up to even being dropped once. It's cheap and should be on an airsoft toy.
Had one i couldnt get it to zero in after 100 rounds i thought maybe it was broke something wasn’t adjusting so i got a replacement same thing was going on then got my money back and got a romeo5 put it on the same gun and zeroed in quickly
Photograph the reticle? Turn up the power of the scope and down on the lights in the room. The camera is adjusting for the room, and human eyes have wider range than that.
This is not really a good chose for mounting on a reciprocating slide, this is more meant for fixed mount like on a rifle or many 22 caliber guns. It's a bit large and heavy for slide mounting. I would look at something like a Burris FastFire 3 or other micro red-dot. There are two ways to mount them, one is by having the slide milled/drilled/tapped and the other way is there are a few companies that make mounts which replace the rear sight and expose a mounting platform for a micro red-dot. On something as small as the 26 a laser may be a more flexible and usable option, such as the CTC Laserguard.
No distraction. I just love the 10/22. Your feed back was good but owning 2 shitty red dots this won't be an improvement for me. Thanks to you I know now.
This should work on any pistol where the weaver/picatinny rail is fixed. It is too heavy to mount on a moving slide. Unfortunately it does not appear, at least from the information I can find, that the Victory has a rail or a way to attach one.
I have this exact sight & the rear mounting screw worked it's way loose & fell out. Does anyone know where to get a replacement or what size it is? I can't find the details on the screw anywhere
+steven jones No, this is really only suitable for rifles and the occasional pistol with a stationary rail like a Desert Eagle, Ruger 22/45 or Beretta Neos. It is too large to mount on a slide.
It will, it is pretty robust. We have one on our DPMS Oracle 5.56/.223 ( th-cam.com/video/UEz9O6GfB8g/w-d-xo.html ) and even our DPMS Oracle 7.62/.308 ( th-cam.com/video/anBrWJj4ADE/w-d-xo.html )
Red-Dot is a broad category that includes Reflex, Holographic and Prism. This one is a Reflex, it fires a laser image onto a mirror. Right now Eotech has a patent on Holographics and are likely the only ones you will see with that tech for a while.
@Sparkyyy.380 I had one on my first pistol AR in 2014... it worked decently, held up to 2k rounds of .300 BLK. Always held zero and didn't have to adjust it (shot POA up to 100 yards).
Sun is a harsh environment for any red-dot, some do better with it than others. Have you experimented with the different reticles, brightness and colors. We have so far been successful in at least getting a reticle that we can see by experimenting with those factors under various lighting conditions.
Possibly, the only concern would be if there is enough adjustment range to account for the fact they are usually fairly high up on a crossbow and there is not much distance available to eat up the parallax that results.
A Light Emitting Diode (LED) that produces a coherent light beam (laser beam) right at the junction. This replaces the original laser design of a light source feeding a light pump through lenses, which is large and bulky Laser LEDs are the technology that has enabled small laser devices that power all sorts of firearm laser devices.
Based on your review I ordered this for my AR15 and Ruger 10/22. I have a BSA red dot but it is 5 MOA and this goes to 2.5 MOA just right for both weapons....
I have not had an opportunity to use the Dagger Defense one. It does look interestingly similar physically as well as the specifications to the Tru-Glo which might lead to a conclusion of "re-branding" (whereby under the hood they are possibly the same "engine"). Maybe one of our viewers has tried one of the Dagger Defense Red-Dots and can chime in.
The Tru-Glo one seems to float between $60 and $80 on Amazon, currently $70. The Dagger Defense might be just as good but unfortunately without having tried one out I would just be speculating.
I have both the regular and ruggedized version of this red dot. They both run great from .22 to 12ga slugs. I have the lighter version on my 5.56 ar15 and the rugged version on my 7.62x39 ar15. No complaints after 2 years of constant use.
Still working well? Thinking about getting one for a 556 or 300 blackout
@@Sparkyyy.380 I sold the optic to a friend months ago, haven't heard anything back about it. For $100, get a Sig romeo5 or Bushnell TRS-25 those designs are well proven.
@@SuspiciousGanymede I was thinking about a bushnell or Romeo 4 or 5 myself how are those?
@@Sparkyyy.380 the romeo5 is higher quality than the TRS in terms of glass and LED. I have both and prefer the romeo5. They're not bad for entry level optics. The romeo5 has a slight blue tint to the glass and the TRS is yellowish with a smaller objective lens. I started with those red dots and worked up to the higher end Holosun and primary arms prism scopes. Once you get into the $300+ range optics quality improves immensely, but I know not everyone can afford them.
@@SuspiciousGanymede thanks dude you’ve really helped me pick, this is my first build and I’ve been trying to decide on spending a little extra for a holosun or getting a Romeo but I’m only going to be using it for the range and play around shooting home defense ect.
tell you what.... this is a great little red dot. economical, dependable, and accurate. If you can see it, you can hit it with one of these!
I had one of these. bright snug to see clearly in bright sun. Worked great for awhile. But eventually recoil killed it (223/556 with a muzzle brake). warranty replaced it, but decided to sell it and go with something else.
I found out that I have an astigmatism because my red dot looks a grape bunch instead of a single crisp dot.
Thanks for this upload! Thumbs up from me... Stay safe... Rico
i have this exact same sight on my DPMS AR15 5.56 and find it very very useful for 3 guns competition and quite accurate up to 200 yards which is the furthest distance i tried yet with this set-up .... i even did put another one just like it on my beloved Ruger Deerfield .44 magnum carbine for still hunting close range whitetails ... fantastic fast sight to use and very affordable ...
jacques Carpentier I am so glad I found your comment. I was wondering it it would work for a USPSA match 9mm carbine
I don't understand the paralax comments. I am looking for something to put on a Browing Buckmark .22 pistol (never hunted with a pistol before). I hunt squirrels with dogs so I'm mostly shooting up and close ranges. Would this be a good option? Or are there other things I should consider?
Parallax is a visual effect that causes something you see between your eye and another more distant object appear to move relative to the distant object. An example is a gauge, where the needle may appear to be over a different number depending upon the angle you look at the meter. In this case, it is also caused by the height of the dot over the center of the bore. The further away your target is, the less this matters (hence the 30yds for this one). Lower profile red-dots like the Burris Fast-Fire 3 reduce this effect significantly. This particular one is a bit bulky and heavy for a pistol, it will work but is better suited to a rifle.
Lower profile ones like the Fast-Fire 3 and RMR work much better on a pistol.
If you order from Ebay or Amazon check your sight. The last 2 I bought were both counterfeit.
How do you know?
used mine on a CZ evo 1 sent 100 rounds thru it and it started flickering with every shot and turning off. sent for replacement from amazon if it fails I'm going with Holosun. I love the price on this one though and its low profile, perfect for Evo 1
I have 12 10-22's in my collection and tried a number of dot sights that were no good on the two anniversary models. Has this one held up well for you?
I really like the green better, seems easier to see so I need the dual color.
What is the exact model number if available?
Thanks, good video.
Thank-you. These are definitely not the most prestigious red-dots available but they have held up well and hold zero. We have several, including one on a .308/7.62. I find them on Amazon all the time for between $60 and $80. I am pretty sure the part # is TG8380B. We even have on on a 10/22 Charger (cool little gun!)
Mine broke in 3 shots and I'm having a dificult time getting my warranty looked at
Could you recommend a magnification device that would work with this optic?
It is unlikely that you will find one, most of them are very specific to the red-dot they work on and are typically found with the higher end ones. If the height and centerline are not perfectly matched you will get distortion.
I have one and the reticle is fuzzy, but what can you expect for 60ucks
You likely got a bad one, all of ours have been pretty good.
I had the same issue. I found that my scope was too close to me. Slid it down the rail a couple of inches and it was clear as day
can this be use with the m4 expanse and still use an iron sight?
Yes, on our DPMS Oracle it co-witnesses with the flip-up sights. Though if you have the fixed front post sight then the dot will be on the pin of the front sight which may be distracting.
does the reticle wash out any in bright sunlight? looking for something inexpensive for 22 rimfire steel challenge
I have not encountered a wash-out, this thing can get really bright. I am sure it is possible if the light hits just right and you are using one of the smallest available reticles. One note is that it does tend to "flare" at high brightness so the reticle will get "fatter" and be less precise (most red-dots will do the same thing as well, but maybe to a lesser extent).
currently run a Burris AR-F3 on my PCC for steel challenge and have no issues with it in sunlight. i just dont want to spend 200 plus on a red dot for a .22 rifle but it seems some of the cheaper sights really wash out in bright sunlight.
Will this fit a AR pistiol with mlock rail?
Other than the oversize of the unit, I purchased one to install on my 1911 target pistol. Initially when sighting in with the in bore laser, I loved all the bright, options of color change, and 1 to 5 MOA adjustments. I went to the range, shot the pistol 30 times and the optic exploded, ripped the vertical adjustment screw out ot the mounting bracket, loosened all screws on all brackets and is now Junk! Now I know why TruGlo does not offer any email or phone numbers. Their sight set was nice that I installed on another pistol, definitely not this piece of Garbage! $60.93 down the toilet.
Would you tell me please if this product is still working ok for you? I was thinking on getting it for my ruger mark IV. Thank you so much for your time!
Yes, the ones we have are working great. I have seen a few people with issues, but overall they work well. The price is right, though now you can get some seriously good and much smaller units for in the $250 range if the budget allows.
Hammer Striker could you please give some examples
@@josephtirelli367 Negatory, Ghost Rider.
Which exact model is this? There are two similar models, the TG8385BN, and the TG8380B
This one is a TG8385BN.
What's the difference between cheap vs expensive red dot? I don't understand some cost so much....I never used red dot before
In some cases it is just price, the more expensive ones have a famous name associated with them but offer no more features or reliability.
In other cases, there are size and quality differences. Truly higher-end devices will often be smaller, lighter and have a more refined/sharp reticle. For example, I have a Burris FastFire III on my Glock 40 and it is much smaller and lighter with a sharper dot, but it was $300ish instead of $75ish. In the case of a pistol I use for hunting that was important and worth the cost. In the case of an AK or an AR in the way I choose to use those particular guns, the less expensive TruGlo was good enough.
So, it will come down to how you intend to use it and how important size/weight/clarity are for that particular case versus the cost.
Yoko Kurama well aimpoints cost so much because they are battle proven and have a long battery life. The comp m4 has an 80,000 hour battery life. This thing in the video would not stand up to even being dropped once. It's cheap and should be on an airsoft toy.
christopher halderman why are you dropping your weapons? This isn’t meant for a battle rifle.
what is the exact model of this one?
TG8380B
cant beat the price!
Had one i couldnt get it to zero in after 100 rounds i thought maybe it was broke something wasn’t adjusting so i got a replacement same thing was going on then got my money back and got a romeo5 put it on the same gun and zeroed in quickly
Would it work on my marlin 30-30?
It will work on anything with a picatinny rail.
Photograph the reticle? Turn up the power of the scope and down on the lights in the room. The camera is adjusting for the room, and human eyes have wider range than that.
I’ve had very good luck with these on a mini14 and a 12ga.
Is there a mounting option for this that won't raise it to high on my gen 4 Glock 26 which is my EDC?
This is not really a good chose for mounting on a reciprocating slide, this is more meant for fixed mount like on a rifle or many 22 caliber guns. It's a bit large and heavy for slide mounting.
I would look at something like a Burris FastFire 3 or other micro red-dot. There are two ways to mount them, one is by having the slide milled/drilled/tapped and the other way is there are a few companies that make mounts which replace the rear sight and expose a mounting platform for a micro red-dot.
On something as small as the 26 a laser may be a more flexible and usable option, such as the CTC Laserguard.
Hey guy. Thanks for the quick response and advice.
Think this would be ok for USPSA 9mm carbine style shooting. Lots of fast double and triple taps.
I knew that was a 10/22 tech mat from first few seconds of video lol
You are correct. We still use it though it's a bit "busy" and can be distracting so we have it upside down.
No distraction. I just love the 10/22. Your feed back was good but owning 2 shitty red dots this won't be an improvement for me. Thanks to you I know now.
Is this applicable with S&W Victory semi-auto pistol?
This should work on any pistol where the weaver/picatinny rail is fixed. It is too heavy to mount on a moving slide. Unfortunately it does not appear, at least from the information I can find, that the Victory has a rail or a way to attach one.
So I’m guessing this won’t fit on a weaver rail
Nice review. It will be a good one for my boy.
Thank you.
I have this exact sight & the rear mounting screw worked it's way loose & fell out. Does anyone know where to get a replacement or what size it is? I can't find the details on the screw anywhere
Ace hardware
Does it have an on and off switch?
Yes
will it be able to be installed on a Taurus pt111 g2?
+steven jones No, this is really only suitable for rifles and the occasional pistol with a stationary rail like a Desert Eagle, Ruger 22/45 or Beretta Neos. It is too large to mount on a slide.
Great review, thanks for sharing!
Thank you.
100
For remington 597 cal 22?
This would be perfect for something like that.
is this good for a 5.56?
It will, it is pretty robust. We have one on our DPMS Oracle 5.56/.223 ( th-cam.com/video/UEz9O6GfB8g/w-d-xo.html ) and even our DPMS Oracle 7.62/.308 ( th-cam.com/video/anBrWJj4ADE/w-d-xo.html )
Wait a minute, is it a red dot or a holographic sight?
Red-Dot is a broad category that includes Reflex, Holographic and Prism. This one is a Reflex, it fires a laser image onto a mirror. Right now Eotech has a patent on Holographics and are likely the only ones you will see with that tech for a while.
I wish there was something called a yellow dot sight I would pay a lot for one
Noah - why yellow dot? What are you aiming for?
just ordered one from Amazon, can't wait to try it on my AR
how's it workin out?
How was it bro?
@Sparkyyy.380 I had one on my first pistol AR in 2014... it worked decently, held up to 2k rounds of .300 BLK. Always held zero and didn't have to adjust it (shot POA up to 100 yards).
mine does not work in the sun.
Sun is a harsh environment for any red-dot, some do better with it than others. Have you experimented with the different reticles, brightness and colors. We have so far been successful in at least getting a reticle that we can see by experimenting with those factors under various lighting conditions.
Great review.Thank you
+Justin Harper Thank-you.
Missed the price.....how much ?
These tend to go between $60 and $80 depending upon who has them on sale.
Can they be used on a crossbow?
Possibly, the only concern would be if there is enough adjustment range to account for the fact they are usually fairly high up on a crossbow and there is not much distance available to eat up the parallax that results.
Say flare one more time lol
4:30 What is a LASER LED?
A Light Emitting Diode (LED) that produces a coherent light beam (laser beam) right at the junction. This replaces the original laser design of a light source feeding a light pump through lenses, which is large and bulky Laser LEDs are the technology that has enabled small laser devices that power all sorts of firearm laser devices.
Based on your review I ordered this for my AR15 and Ruger 10/22. I have a BSA red dot but it is 5 MOA and this goes to 2.5 MOA just right for both weapons....
+Brad Purvis I hope it works well for you!
ok never mind found it. thanks
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This vs the Dagger Defense DDHB Red Dot Reflex Sight....which one?
I have not had an opportunity to use the Dagger Defense one. It does look interestingly similar physically as well as the specifications to the Tru-Glo which might lead to a conclusion of "re-branding" (whereby under the hood they are possibly the same "engine"). Maybe one of our viewers has tried one of the Dagger Defense Red-Dots and can chime in.
+Hammer Striker Hopefully. They do look similar. I saw this one at DICK'S Sporting Goods and it's $99. The Dagger Defense DDHB is only $50 on Amazon.
The Tru-Glo one seems to float between $60 and $80 on Amazon, currently $70. The Dagger Defense might be just as good but unfortunately without having tried one out I would just be speculating.
+Hammer Striker I'll try the DD. If I don't like it, I'll switch.
Cool, let us know if it works well.
i picked one up today, i like it but the green dot is kind of blotchy looking but the red is fine.
You have an astigimitism in your eye, that's why it looks blotchy. I have the same issue.
Any good for a 9mm?
I would use it on a rifle but not a pistol - too heavy to put on a moving slide.