RZIM UPDATE (BREAKING!!) | Sarah Davis, RAVI ZACHARIAS' DAUGHTER
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- In a formal statement issued on Instagram, Sarah Davis, RAVI ZACHARIAS' DAUGHTER and CEO of Ravi Zacharias International Ministries (RZIM) breaks her silence by OFFICIALLY putting out a MUCH NEEDED and VERY ANTICIPATED RZIM UPDATE STATEMENT about the allegations and scandal involving Ravi Zacharias and the future of RZIM.
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Rachael Denhollander's Email (Victim Advocacy): rjd.requests@gmail.com
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I know I typically publish my videos on TUESDAYS every week, but due to the TIMELINESS of this REPORT, this will serve as this week's video so thanks for your grace on the EARLY RELEASE! How do you feel about this report? To me, it seems to answer a lot of the questions people have had and sincerely reaches out to the victims in a way I haven’t seen before.
1Peter 4:17. “For the time has come for judgement to begin at the house of God.....”
A hard process of humbly seeking God...who will perfect,establish,strengthen, and settle our foundation...1Peter 5:10
What worries me is your statement at the beginning "I hope you go deeper in your faith family and finances"... Respectfully I'd like to ask where deepening your finances comes in to becoming more like Jesus?
@@KJ-lb4tj I believe he just meant he hopes you are bless yes, even financially but you don't have to except it you don't want to. You could just be bless in all the other aspects if you want. It's okay.
@@jesuslovesyou7130 thanks for your analysis of what you think he might mean. Love to hear what he actually means himself
Ok I’m
Can't imagine the burden that ravi's daughter have to bear in getting this fixed this up.
@Zachtbh I agree completely. I realize they are part of the ministry, but sometimes we forget that they are his own sons and daughters. It would be tough enough to have to pick up the pieces, but when it involves the heart-shattering reality of it being due to your dad? I couldn’t imagine. Praying God gives tremendous wisdom.
Nothing to fix. God doesn't need RZIM. Why carry it's legacy? I say shut it down.
I don’t hold it against his daughter! She was kept in the dark, and is certainly NOT responsible for her father’s abominable secret life.
@@daelinproudmore5068 they are not trying to carry his legacy. Do not let bitterness block your ears. Healing is needed for all, including his daughters.
@@cwolgamot Cathy, RZIM is run like a business, not like a church. You need to understand that. It's an organization that made as of last time I saw 17 million in donations in 1 year. A portion of that we now know was being abused. The accountability factor was not present. Rather than try reform a rotten system, get rid of it and start again. It would be best for everyone to completely cut ties with it's now exposed dark dealings.
This is so hard for me to see what his daughter/family are going through. Nothing here for me to say or judge. Pray for the family
Someone had possession of his phone when he was sick and after he died. Someone knew that there are millions of $$$ in the ministry he left behind.
Everything was going well until she mentioned Rachel Denhollander; Ms. Denhollander is a celebrity victim and the last person you need in a situation such as this one.
@@risfpl.1243 That is exactly what I thought. This is going to end up in another hot mess. Looks like this ministry is going to continue to make bad choices.
It is indeed hard to see what his family is going through because of his sin. We have to keep in mind that Ravi chose this suffering for his family. He knew someday his sin would be exposed and his family would be shamed, but he chose sex abuse anyway. THAT tells us a lot about his character. He preached the word of God, then used that same mouth for unspeakable sin. That's what we have to keep in mind. Ravi didn't love his family enough to protect them from suffering at his own hands. It's regrettable that his offspring never developed lives for themselves outside the family business. When family businesses fail, the whole family suffers. Their suffering doesn't make me want to blind myself to the fact that his victims are suffering more. It isn't their house, their job, or their car that were taken away, it was their bodies and souls that were damaged in ways that can never fully recover. Save your pity for the people who deserve it. Adultery isn't something to just gloss over. God never said, "forgive and forget." We don't move on by pretending the sin never happened and the damage isn't real.
@@DrTiwade As our Lord warned us, MANY false teachers in these days, who will deceive MANY. Jesus says, Follow me, not people. Apostle Paul, who was far from perfect, wrote: Be imitators of me, as I am of Christ (1 Corinthians 11:1) of Christ, not the flesh, as he lays out in Romans ch.7
Feel terribly sorry for his wife, kids, in - laws and grandchildren.
May the Lord comfort them.
Betrayal hurts, it's not expected, it's from people you trusted and broke bread with. Jesus suffered betrayal and understands our pain. We can bring it to him.
I would be very surprised if he wasn't a bully at home too. Honey words don't cover much in real lives. I'd say they've given in to his lack of accountability for years. My hope is that they learn that this behaviour reaps just consequences, and turn to God to forgive them for their compliance!
I feel terribly for the VICTIMS May the lord heal and comfort them as well.....
@@mamaJmama we all experience betrayal. The important thing is that we too don't aquiesse to evil! Or seek to profit from the gospel!
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Its a painful journey for a daughter ...to be clearing up the mess for her father whom she looked up to and loves very dearly! May God give her the strength as well as to all the victims
So true. Thank you for this insight!
No one is perfect, his daughter is doing the correct thing. I understand there are many people who want to point the finger and laugh, but not all ministers are like this. But unfortunately I have met some, I am not saying I am mystic or a mind reader, but the first time I met my in laws pastor. Something wasn’t right, I can’t say what it was we only talked a few minutes. I told my wife and of course everyone laughed at me, after the 3 rd time I spoke with the man . I warned my wife about him, roughly 2 months later the rumors where flying about him having a affair with his secretary.
Sin does ruin everything.
Hurts everyone.
That is why God hates it.
MEN - RUN - flee from fornication
Don’t judge make judgment to the Lord. First you people watch your step in Lord word.
Everything was going well until she mentioned Rachel Denhollander; Ms. Denhollander is a celebrity victim and the last person you need in a situation such as this one.
God bless the hearts of Ravi's children who are now carrying such a hard burden. I am blown away by the courage and fortitude of Sarah and those like Vince and Jo who are helping to shoulder this tremendous, heavy weight.
@Nathalia Leandro you’re a false teacher and have just been exposed by the Holy Spirit.
@Nathalia Leandro That comment is an example of spiritual abuse, using "god" and super-spiritual waffle to try to control and manipulate someone into giving you money (what's the betting that the "orphan" in this "foundation" is you?). This is a scam and your methods are identical to witchcraft. Ironic that you should comment underneath a video which talks about the fallout from another manipulative spiritual abuser.
@@sarahpiaggio2693 That commentator is all over TH-cam under different names but it's the same line. I report them every time. These scammers are pathetic.
I am a survivor of molestation by my grandfather who was Methodist Preacher. He died a hero in the worlds eyes. I was made to feel bad by my own Mother that I who was under age at the time of my abuse. Instead of protecting me, I was told to not say anything to anyone because it would hurt my grandfathers reputation. From that point on, I NEVER trusted my family again. I felt like I had been completely betrayed and abused all over again. I kept the secret for years. But then as I got to be an adult I realized that I needed to talk with someone about how I Was feeling and what had happened to me. The unfortunate part of it all, is that it has hurt my adult life with my husband. There are things that were taken from me that day by my grandfather that I will never get back. I truly feel as an adult now that I have forever lost something that was precious to me, the ability to enjoy something that God made to be beautiful. I have chose to forgive my Grandfather, but it doesn't change the effect it has had on me. I am a casualty of war. I cannot imagine how Mrs Zacharias is doing. Praying for them all!
Oh Sharon, I am so sorry for the pain that you have had to endure. I mentioned this exact thing as a response to a comment above (I believe from someone questioning the choice to remove all of his content) and i agree with you wholeheartedly!
Praying that this does not open the wounds again for you and that our Savior would be near to you. 🙏💜
I am so sorry, also a victim, people will never understand the extent of secrecy, shame . The wreckage of a human life is the result.
You are a hero! May God bring back the joy you lost and may your marriage be filled with love and contentment in Jesus's name, Amen.
Sharon I’m so very sorry for what you went through and your pain. Please know you have people praying for you.
There are many of us Sharon.! Just trust God to help you completely recover, and keep praying. Mrs.
Zacharias is not a child and she might have suspected and not confronted him ? because he brought in
more money than our president ! Your Grandfather [ and my also forgiven uncle ] will stand before our
Lord and Savior on Judgement Day ! Thank you LORD ! as will we, but covered by the Blood of our
Savior Jesus Christ !
This is how the restoration process should go. Ravi was hypocritical. So have I been. However, I pray that he repented, although he can't be restored in this life. Let us ALL not be too enamoured with this situation, but examine our own lives. Time is running out!! Be blessed and be well.
@GL “Examine our own lives.” Indeed my friend! Appreciate you watching and for sharing your perspective. “I have stored you word in my heart, that I might not sin against You.”(Psalms 119:11)
Amen
Agree! This is so true! Thanks for the reminder not to be overwhelmed by this but instead, examine my own life because I too can fall in the same pit if I allow the devil speak lies to me.
I've always seen it from your perspective.
Well said brother, this whole situation has given me a lot to think about in terms of how I live my life and what I leave behind. We keep repenting and being sanctified and I definitely want to leave people encouraged by the way I lived my life before Christ my Lord.
Solomon died as a sinner and yet we still using his teachings (1 Kings 11:1-41).
*IS A MASSIVE mistake to get rid of Ravi's teachings* just because his lifestyle didn't live up to his teachings, his analogies are TRUTH and RELEVANT to help the unbelievers. So, to stop using his teachings just because of his sins, shows a sort of human incapacity to understand truth from lies which is nonsense.
So true
The only difference is that King David and Solomon admitted their sin and repented. Ravi did not. Plain and simple. He died unrepentant with his sin. You may ask? Don't really know for sure. It's between him and God only. Is the answer that I can come up with.
@@kerrytom4731 Yeah I have to agree. We know God's verdict on both these men, who were sinners like us all and who openly faced up to that. I pray God has mercy on Ravi but when he was accused, he only dug his heels in and added insult to injury. David hid from God to sin but Ravi invoked the name of God to coerce his victims.
What is significant is damage done to the HUMAN BEINGS by Ravi.
Forget about defending him or his teachings. He has hardly been the only source of information. If you think Ravi Zacharias and Solomon's teachings are what matters, please consider other priorities. The Kingdom of God won't crash and burn without RZ's work. He's not that important.
The Lord is close to the brokenhearted. Who do you think is most brokenhearted?
@@colmwhateveryoulike3240 Changing to a new ministry name is just an band-aid. They mention restoration, restitution, counseling is just a front to side track their true intention. Is to make more money in the sake of God' name under their new ministry. Money is power. So sad to see all this unfold. If they have true Christ like intentions. Endeavor to concentrate and focus on the victims. All their energy, time, and money should be priority over reestablishing under a different ministry name. And not surprisingly the board of directors will be retain. How can you not do the right thing for these innocent sexual victims. It's way beyond my reasonable mind. I don't get??? Hey Sarah do the right thing instead of squirreling out of this mess.
True biblical repentance going on here. It must have been severely difficult for Ravi’s daughter to face the fallout of her dad’s behaviour but she has been brave and completely deserves our respect. May the Lord bring beauty out of the ashes of this tragedy!!
Glad you feel the same way! Regardless of how some people view this, many have forgotten that she is a daughter who is grieving TWO deaths-the death of her father and the death of his legacy. So sad and I pray with you that the Lord brings beauty out of this! Thanks for this.
What “biblical” repentance are you pointing to? I’ve not heard/read of any individual of the organization repentant for any specific action. Maybe I’ve missed what it is they’re doing “biblically”. I will admit at the outset that this “ministry” organization isn’t really to begin with, for its never been accountable to elders or a church. People of Christ can certainly do His work as individuals and groups, but we shouldn’t delude ourselves just because RZIM has ministry in the name either.
@@TheSMEAC Yeah, all I see is an attempt to control any additional accusations that come forward. RZIM is going to use those accusations against Ravi to INCREASE the credibility of RZIM, even though at best they did jack squat for decades. They probably did much worse. This move by RZIM is cold, calculated, and EXACTLY what Ravi himself would have done were he still alive to maintain public standing (and had a scapegoat other than himself). Now, thanks' to Ravi's death, everyone at RZIM has a scapegoat and they can all float on through with angle's/victim's wings.
Yes, when you are contemplating on survival - paying bills, repentance is the next chip in the game you throw hard on the board. Who cares about throwing the dead evil dad under the bus and pretend to distance yourself when you foresee the struggle of getting bread on your own table. Now the best way to make money is in the name of restitution and changing the shop name. I think they should work their butt like most common folks and get some real job shutting down this evil shop for good. Religion is EVIL. Religious people are the real Predators. Religion I s a cloth predators wear to prey their victims. Religion is a pretentious image of purity that EVIL folks wear. Religion should be banned from all civilized society. I lost my faith and became smart because of this treacherous guy. I have to thank him in a way but I feel for his victims. It could have been my sisters or daughters. Last year alone I spent a lot of my hard earned donating to most evangelical churches. This year I got smart and stopped all donations but I regret for squandering my money on the bygone years. I’ld donate to government run programs instead were real people in need get the best not these bastards living in luxury not knowing the pain of making real money. I will accept true repentance of Zachrias daughters when they go get real job and not sitting on some board making easy money flapping their mouth.
@@ZandarKoad I'm sorry you feel this way, although, I can understand where you are coming from. I'd like to say to Ravi's daughter that I also grieve this once great mans death. Not one of is so perfect that we can't fall. Ravi was a wonderful communicator, I so enjoyed all of his work. I pray for all of us to remember that we have one judge who sees and understands everything. This isn't meant to excuse the actions of Ravi, but we will also stand before the one judge who sees all things. Let us let God do the judging, while we pray for the family Ravi has left to morn his terrible loss, and for the victims who remain confused and hurt.
I am apauled and sadned by this. I walked away from the church years ago for my own healing and mental health. However, I never left God. I would watch his videos and listen to his podcast to keep me connected and informed. This news has shook me, I'm a survivor of sexual abuse from my biological father. My family too didn't believe me, especially my mother. That pain transfered into trauma will forever remain. To the victims, may God give you complete healing, I'm so very sorry. I will pray for you 🙏.
Ask Christ to take away that trauma. It doesnt hv to remain. Sorry for ur experience. Be healed in CHRIST'S Name.
@@simonokeke6354 Thank you.
So sorry that happened to you ! Praying for you now !
@@gregthompson5759 Thank you so very much.
I'm praying for you.
This was a total Shock
I'm Heart broken 💔 especially for his family and Victims
May GOD turn this total disaster into Good in JESUS Mighty name AMEN ❤️🙏🇨🇦
Amen!
Amen to that
God Bless you.
I really loved his teaching.This is really a sad time for the Church. It's also a lesson to be learnt: Do not put anyone on a pedestal for everyone has feet of clay. Put your trust I God alone.
Lord please help his family to get through this situation with minimal scars as possible. I pray that the Christian family will continue to love and support them.
Absolutely agree, Veronica. Thank you for praying over this situation and for your heart to see Jesus glorified.
Prayers for his daughter. Cleaning up his mess will be difficult. God bless her.
Thanks @RobinSampson. I agree wholeheartedly. Appreciate you praying for them!!
Not to mention her and her family’s pain and grief. I pray for them.
Amen to all of that. It is a heart broken moment but may God see their heart and restore everything within them.
God knows how this become our burden too.
Even while we can't understand yet, until the time we know better and God reveal according to His willingness and mercy.
May God bless everyone that work for that effort according to His Glory and mighty.
And may they get the result that become also a blessing, lesson and encouragement for everyone especially the Body of Christ and glorify God even more.
The best is to not clean up anything. Is it biblical to clean up the mess of the dead?
Amen.
I don’t agree with removing his content. He still preached the Gospel and his material was powered by the Holy Spirit. The book of Hebrews describes Bible characters who sinned and messed up yet doesn’t erase their history instead points out their faith. All through the Bible we see people who sin yet they are still in the Bible and we learn from their sin. I truly don’t understand why they need to take his godly content down. They shouldn’t be jumping on the bandwagon to erase ‘bad’ history. We wouldn’t have anyone’s content Christian or not, if everyone’s sins were revealed. Bottom line, I pray they are truly listening to the Lord’s voice and not looking to please man.
@DRichardson You make an important point about repentance.
@Mark OnTheBlueRidge I never made an immature comment or said or thought any of the things you mentioned.
@Mark OnTheBlueRidge Misquote me if you'd like. Argue if you'd like. Assume what you'd like. I care for the victims. I never listened to him much anyway. I had a serious question that others made helpful responses to. Have a good evening.
@Mark OnTheBlueRidge I'm pretty sure saul killed dozens of Christians before he became Paul, ill leave you to think about that
@Mark OnTheBlueRidge You don't have to agree with me. I can still have my opinion and believe what I want and not be wrong in that. Besides the only opinion that really matters is God's. No, I don't know the entire situation because I'm not on the inside, however, I think we need to be careful (especially those of us on the outside) to think we can just blanket a situation a certain way and say we need to do it that way every time someone sins. (I'm not a debater, nor do I claim to have the right verbiage to express myself fully in this small space) Furthermore, much of the current world's thinking has crept into the church and to 'erase' someone's work is a part of it. Again, I'll say that I pray that those who are in the decision making place are seeking what the Lord is wanting them to do about the situation regardless of the options of man.
Wow. What a courageous woman. I admire her courage, her values, her character. In this era of ducking, hiding, ignoring and disavowing the truth I believe we can all appreciate her and the emerging organization as an example of humility and honor. I anticipate good things with her at the helm. How courageous.
Well Said!
But, up to now, she still enjoys the wealth and all the money left by her "satanic" father, right?
Courage? This statement is intended to protect the ministry corporation, not heal the victims. She's trying to save her job and her reputation. It's not even an apology. An apology wouldn't have started with, "the RZIM Board of Directors..." It would have started with, "I am so deeply sorry for what my father has done..." The woman they hired to deal with all this is a lawyer, not a therapist. The only thing this "apology" does is CYA. Shame on the Zachariases for everything they have done since this scandal was exposed. The mother "losing" free housing is not what we should pity. We should be heartbroken for the victims, the innocent employees, and most of all, for the millions of people who now doubt where they stand with God. THEY are the victims, not Sarah Davis or Margie Zacharias.
@@nohjuan3048 so right! Specially the millions of young people he tried to reach. But, if they learn to follow Jesus only, not people, then he will have accomplished something lasting...
I pray for his wife. It must be soooo hurtful. His family as well. He wounded so many people especially his wife.
I agree and I can’t imagine.
I have read in related research that in the vast majority of cases the wife knows and tolerates adultery. As long as the man “comes home”.
I wish Ravi’s son didn’t set up that blog homing in on one statement from a masseuse being incorrect. What about all the emails, texts and over 200 female images some sexy. Why was Ravi paying for some of the masseuse girls accommodation and schooling? Does Ravi’s son really believe that legal professionals would publish such a damning report if there were doubts about the evidence? 🙄
It is more gracious to accept the faults, even of our parents.
@@barb4645 There should be a fair investigation and the report did not mention anything that Nathan has said why? Ravi is dead cannot defend himself this should have come before?
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Sorrowful sheep, his soon probably loves his father a lot and maybe he was a good father in many aspects, but the Ravis victims have family who love them too.
I personally haven't seen any updated photo of his wife but. .I do know of two cases here in England when pastors started developing a wandering eye after "fitter" females when their wives "let themselves go" over the years or in plain English became overweight. I'm Not blaming RZ's wife but just thinking of the possibility that RZ started looking at "fitter" females after his wife hypothetically became overweight. As I said I Don't know how his wife actually looked like in the last several years so this is just a hypothesis. Either way RZ is an a---hole for doing what he did.
I really am still struggling with this. My heart is still heavy. Not that I idolized the man but that his material is so impactful and has really transformed me in an amazing way. i would always use the material. Honestly, I still will. Though having not lived it, but what he preached is the truth and from that I won't deviate. Like Paul say "some preach to cause me trouble, but through that the gospel is preached nonetheless". I'll still use the material though I am saddened deeply. I pray for the family and surviving victims.
@Maboke Mahlo: You quote Philippians 1:17-18. Once a pastor I was interviewing told me oabout a pastor he knew who would preach the Gospel that he didn't even himself believe, but still people were being saved! I asked him how that could be, and he told me it's not the preacher of the Word that saves--it's the Word Himself.
@Adam Simon - Responding to the Call thank you Sir. Please keep praying for me. The God who showed you these things is the same who will get rid of them. I am waiting upon the Lord Jesus to hear His word. Amen.
@@melodysledgister2468 True! God's word still prevails. That I will take and run with it.
My wife was still telling me how these have impacted my preaching for the better. That's why I am so hurt finding out this information.
Yes let’s talk about it. Dear people, do not bring down the man of God for the sin he committed. This just validates that the Bible is true. You look at men in the Bible and see they fell in terrible sin, look at David who committed adultery and was a murderer, what about Solomon who had thousands of wives and Concubines, or Noah who was a drunker, or Paul who was a murderer, Abraham slept with someone who was not his wife and made another child who was not the chosen one and so many more who God used. These are men just like us. Christians why cry Ravi down, instead defend him, not the sin but because he was one of us. You leave nothing for the ungodly. Why take down his messages when they have inspired many, is it no God’s word? My friends understand this is a ploy of the enemy and it came from right in his ministries. Ravi is wearing his crowns in Heaven and did a good job here on earth. Well done to the man of God. Many cant carry the anointing he did. Target him down now, when he cannot defend himself, try to erase him so the word of God cannot travel across the world. You all are ridiculous. God qualified him and he has run his course. Well done.
@@mabokemahlo Please remember Jesus also had his Judas.
Best non judgemental report to come out since the investigation was publicized. And it's about going forward, not wallowing in what was done.
His daughter is a true Christian. I have watched some of his videos recently and he was brilliant as an apologist. Praying for his daughter, wife and family.
I can no longer trust anyone to be a "true Christian". Ravi had me totally fooled. He is the last one I would have suspected.
@@politics4816 He reminds me of the Ergon Canner professor from Liberty University who lied about his past to prop up his testimony.
@@politics4816 Even the Bible says trusts no man but God, so what’s the deal here? You should know we are all sinners in need of grace. Trust God only.
@@michealvels Good point. The important question that I don't know the answer to is: "Was Ravi one of the false teachers we were warned about or just a fallen man like the rest of us?" I don't see many talking about his false teaching but only about his unrepentant sin and trail of victims.
@@politics4816 He was an apologist and was great at proving his points and challenging others thinking, however I don’t think he was a false teacher but rather a man whom also failed to repent. Remember the Bible calls each one of to true repentance and yes we struggle, but in this case , am not sure if he was struggling to repent in that area or if it was just something he refused to repent.
May God comfort Margie at this time😔😔
O, Thou Spirit Divine,
All my nature refine.
Till the beauty of Jesus be seen in me. 🙏🏽🙏🏽
Amen!
Amen!
Beautiful Prayer... Amen!!!
Omg ! This very same song filled my heart even b4 I read your comment
Everything was going well until she mentioned Rachel Denhollander; Ms. Denhollander is a celebrity victim and the last person you need in a situation such as this one.
We need to pray for Ravi's wife, children, and grandchildren, because they have been wounded deeply by him. Their pain , while different from the victims, is still unimaginable. Only God can heal the pain they are experiencing.
Absolutely! Thank you for this.
I never believes Ravi Zacharias does any wrong things in his life, all are false allegations. If it was true, why nobody expose Ravi Zacharias before his death?
So true
@@peaceandlove7989 I see your wrong his own daughter admits there are victims. Ravi was a man prone to wandar and sin, dont make him your idol
@@peaceandlove7989 are u delusional? His own family admited to him doing these things! Stop being so nieve.
My heart hurts for the victims, the family, the employees...keeping them uplifted in prayer...
I’m so thankful for how they’re handling this incredibly difficult situation!!!!!!!!!!
It’s hard for me to believe his closest family members and ministry staff, including his traveling partner took a complete blind eye to Ravi’s suspicious behavior and the first accusations in 2017? Although the apology and heartfelt transparency can be, and should be taken at face value for now, it’s hard to reason why after the full allegations unfolded months ago and now an offer to “eventually” remove all Ravi related videos now, do I still today, see RZIM sermons of Ravi still posted on line to view, REALLY!! How long does it take to remove his videos??? This is why I’m a skeptic about the full effort of the family to right the wrongs of Ravi. Anything less than a full departure and dismantling of RZIM, is a sham at best. To try and transition into a "new and improved" ministry with complete transparency, will not win back this former follower of RZIM, no way......
God bless you for your transperancy and courage in dealing with this situation. My prayers for healing are with all the victims and the Zachariah family. A brother in Christ.
This had had to be so painful for Sarah to do. The whole family and the victims need support and prayers. This coming from his daughter has to be comforting for the victims.
@MarkRoggeman I felt that same way about Sarah. Thank you for speaking into this and I’m with you as we pray for their family as well as the victims.
I cannot begin to imagine the pain of the victims, daughter, and the wife...
I first got introduced to Ravi when I was doing a small prison sentence and later I went to a debate in Chicago at the Moody Church my life was forever changed
How could he take this to his grave, knowing that not only did he do unrepentant damage to other souls, but he was going to have to stand before his Creator and answer for that unrepentance?? He most surely knew that!!!
Unrepentant sin is so frightening.
This plagues my thoughts and humbles ME about just how serious unresolved sin in my own life will be. I'm checking my heart so much deeper and so much more often now, pleading for God's Spirit to reveal the contents of my own heart, and begging for His forgiveness lest I grow deceived or hardened!
SAVE ME LORD JESUS!!
So sorry for Ravi's family as well as the victims 😢
As am I, @MarySlater. Thank you for watching and for praying for all involved!
@@RespondingtotheCall It amazes me how many people are still refusing to believe the revelations about Ravi, saying that because he's dead he can't defend himself. But victims of sexual abuse often only feel safe to speak out once their abuser is dead. Jimmy Saville is a prime example.
I kept an open mind initially, not wanting to believe that this man who impacted me so much by his teaching and whom I thought to be a true and humble servant of God was capable of such evil. Some people use King David as an example of a sinner who God forgave but we know David publicly repented and wrote psalms revealing his repentance and remorse. I see that Nathan, Ravi's son, is challenging the report by Miller and Martin, refusing or perhaps emotionally unable, to believe in his guilt. It must be so hard for the family to accept these awful things about their father, and they really do need our prayers as they grieve for their loss and have to deal with the awful legacy he has left behind him. Ravi had time during his last months to admit his guilt and publicly repent but he chose to take it with him and probably assumed it would never come out, though God knows our true hearts and he must surely have known that with all his biblical knowledge. Was he not scared to meet God knowing what he'd done?
This is such a good analysis, Mary. I’ve seen the same from Nathan and I think a lot of people forget that he is a grieving son who just experienced TWO deaths-his dad and his dad’s legacy. Can’t imagine walking through that and it reminds me to see them all this way and pray. Thank you!
Why are you sorry for the family ? because of the shame? do you think they didn't know? do you think they haven't received mail for years from dozens of women about the sexual abuse and covered it up ? Tell me Mary, why did they make a non disclosure agreement? if your husband was abusing other woman for 2 decades and a public figure, Do you really think that you would not have a clue that this was going on ? Christians with the Holy Spirit are supposed to be more discerning that anyone else and I know woman are very perceptive about these things in general. The reality is, we deliberately put blinders on and walk and then wonder why we so easily get deceived with a our false teachers, false preachers and charlattans of our day. We need to Wake up, repent and ask God to give us discernment.
@@rahuldsouza2855 I can't speak for the family as only they know what they were or were not aware of, but at the same time I find it very hard to believe that they would allow him to carry on abusing women and do nothing about it! He was a very manipulative man and very plausible with explaining away what he'd been accused of. It took me long enough to accept the kind of man he really was and I didn't know him as a father or husband, who meant the world to them. They're grieving his loss and are now having to live with his tarnished legacy. They're doing all they can now to offer public apologies to the women he abused. We need to pray for them as well as their victims.
Ravi’s story is very sad on many levels. We loved him, admired him and thanked God for such a great gift to the Body of Christ. We loved his family we had never met. When the news of his lifestyle broke out after his passing, I was mad at those soiling the name of a beloved saint on social media. I asked why they waited until his passing to say such awful things about a man who could not defend himself. I was blinded by the love and respect I had developed for Ravi through his ministry though I never met him personally. May the grace of God speak for the victims of the abuse, his family members and the Body of Christ. God is merciful and Ravi may have repented and forgiven. We have all sinned and fallen short. May this be a wake up call to work out our salvation with fear and trembling and live a life worthy of our calling. Margie, Sarah, Naomi your brother and all your children together with Ravi’s brother - words fail. May the Lord envelope you in his loving Arms and continually comfort you, give you peace and guide you with His Wisdom through all this. You shall overcome. This report is a manifestation of your strength and love of Christ. Shalom
@Winnie This is such a beautiful prayer and blessing to their family. Thank you for this!
Dadangu wachana na ukristo. Karibu katika dini ya haki ya uislamu.
@@RespondingtotheCall Men and everything about men including religion will always disappoint ! Christ is the standard...Confidenc even in self is deception! Major lesson... "We're all rebellious and in dire need of a saviour"
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Because the organization was protecting him , discrediting the victims and refusing to listen to them . This is why he felt emboldened and went on for 4 years. Now they are trying damage control. Hypocrites ! All because the news of the investigation leaked out . Crocodile tears over the victims. Charlatans , they knew of the organization’s financial irregularities the con man ravi was causing. Matthew 7:21-23
My heart is so heavy! May God have mercy!
This hurt me more than I can say. Brought back very painful memories. But I am looking to Jesus who is perfect. Hallelujah!
Focus on Jesus! Don't trade Christ for any Judas.🙏
My prayers are for the victims and that would include Ravi’s family because I see them as victims too. Thank you for sharing this news. My heart grieves for the fall of this man. We as Christians should never place anyone up on a pedestal. When we do we set them up for the fall. Let’s all learn from this example!
Because the organization was protecting him , discrediting the victims and refusing to listen to them . This is why he felt emboldened and went on for 4 years. Now they are trying damage control. Hypocrites ! All because the news of the investigation leaked out . Crocodile tears over the victims. Charlatans , they knew of the organization’s financial irregularities the con man ravi was causing. Matthew 7:21-23
@@gillenforst9805 Right on! But not 4 years. 40. They are beyond complicit. Read up on the Lori Anne Thompson case.
Though Ravi fell short. So do we all. His teachings are still amazing. I am not saying what he did was right, it definitely wasn’t. He reminded me of a man who walked in great knowledge, but he was the missing walking in the power of the Holy Spirit. You have a stronghold, without the Holy Spirit, the stronghold can’t be defeated.
His family needs prayer, support and encouragement. As far as repentance, unless the family were aware of what he was doing and ignored the sin, they have no need for repentance. To help the victims - that shows integrity. Ravi was the one who needed to repent. Whether he did or not - I do not know. That’s between he and God.
Amen! Jesus said that having hatred in your heart is the same as murder! Which is the worse sin, sexual misconduct or murder?
Focus on Jesus Christ. Pray for forgiveness, healing and restoration for victims, family, colleagues and partners. Pray for faith to rise even more to trust in Christ and the Gospel.
💯 and yes to ALL of the above! Thank you, Tian!
@serjicalify I don't know but God will JUDGE everyone FAIRLY and JUSTLY.
@serjicalify YES because us Christians we are called to IMITATE the life of our Lord Jesus.
@serjicalify Why SHOULD I follow Jewish traditions when I'm NOT even Jewish.
@serjicalify TRUE
This was such shocking news and I DID NOT want to believe it! Ravi was a very powerful speaker and his uplifting talks were very important in my life. I can't understand how a man can actually lead a double-life and be able to keep his messages positive. So saaaaad........... :-( Lord - Bless and Heal Ravi's family as well as his many victims. AMEN!
Very easy especially because of the way churches are run with the PASTOR being viewed almost like GOD HIMSELF. If a pastor knows the scriptures, or anyone else for that matter, then you sure can deliver inspiring, life changing sermons even and live a double life. This should serve as a lesson to so many church members who hold their pastors, bishops or what other name they go by to such an esteem that it does not allow the member to see through these 'men of God'.
Really. Judas ring a bell 🔔
@@aliciamcdonald7105 Exactly!
I felt the same way after our Pastor's wife revealed her husband's betrayals and it all fell into place...the red flags we didn't see because we wanted to believe the best. No accountability is a huge red flag! I was devastated after 14 yrs of serving "the Pastor's vision" they were like family and now...it's over. So so sad and abusive for all of us in one way or another.
@@godhealinghearts1115 Put your faith 🙏 in THE LORD, HIS SON, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT 🙏 Not man.
It is so traumatic for Ravis' family to realise they did not know the man they thought they knew . They have no closure because he is no longer here to process the situation with them. They are picking up the pieces he left behind .sad.
If she means what she has stated , then that is one amazing daughter . The news on Ravi, after he died , broke my heart . I pray Ravi's family, especially his dear wife will forgive him , and that they will move forward now with their faith and trust in Christ . Thank you for this video. May God bless the Zacharias family
Absolutely Andrew! Appreciate you watching!
His wife and daughters were victims too. How heartbroken they must be! I pray they find peace. I had never even heard of Ravi until his death, and things started popping up online. I was a member of a very large church/Bible college (over 2000 people) where this happened with the pastor. It destroyed MANY marriages, and some in that congregation even committed suicide. Some fell away from the faith and never returned to it. Because of that, I learned to never put my faith in fallible man, but only in the Lord. I lost faith in man, but never in Jesus, who is always faithful. All of Ravi’s works will be destroyed because he allowed himself to fall into temptation. Prayers for all who were stumbled by his sin, and for those who will use his fall as an excuse to not repent of their own sins, and realize how much they need Jesus.
AMEN SISTER. This is one of the MAIN problem with churches today, the way they look up to these 'men of God'. It is time people rely on the HOLY SPIRIT that suppose to exist within EVERY BELIEVER as their main teacher and support not on fallible men.
This sort of thing is too common especially in the fake Roman Catholic Church ! I am very sorry for what happened to you & to think people committed suicide when we know the Church is a place & help healing & growing in the Lord not a place were these terrible things can happen & it's a lack of having a good accountability & solid elders with decernment too !
@KanaMichelle I’m so sorry to hear about that with your former church. I, too, was a part of a church like this-which is why I’ve done this entire series. A ton of the hurt that I processed then-as well as the way my faith GREW instead of shrank-is what I’ve used to hopefully help others process this now with Ravi. Unlike you, I listened to Ravi for nearly a decade and God used HIS WORD preached THROUGH Ravi to change and grow my faith. That’s why it was particularly disappointing for me, but as you said and as I WHOLEHEARTEDLY agree, we don’t put our trust in any man. Praying for wisdom for all as we watch this ministry continue to hopefully serve these women and victims in the days ahead.
Not to sound too harsh, but I cannot bring myself to believe that no one knew. Rather, I feel they were enablers. The women who did come forward while Ravi was alive were fired from their positions. That is covering up. For 40 years...no one knew?! This goes back to 1974. He counseled his brother's 17 year old girlfriend to undergo an abortion. Disturbing...
Yes true
May God give the family His double grace and put His loving arms around them.I Was very hurt, when I heard it the first time,I was sad for the whole week and praying for his wife and children, I was thinking about Nabil Qureshi and his parents, and people who worked there .the line up of the student to ask questions to him......Praying 🙇♀️🙇♀️
Thank you Adam.Again,this is the Godly way to go.Let’s do what we as believers in Christ do best,repentance,restitution,forgiveness,love ,bearing one another’s burden,...this is what separates us from the rest of the world.
Absolutely @LourdesVelasco! Appreciate you watching (again) and I am with you as we pray for godly restoration!
Amen
It’s so encouraging to know that they have taken this so seriously.. praying for his daughter and the rest of his family and close friends.. they must be experiencing excruciating pain
Everything was going well until she mentioned Rachel Denhollander; Ms. Denhollander is a celebrity victim and the last person you need in a situation such as this one.
What happened on Ravi should be a big warning to everyone of us.
Let us all be careful in living on this world.
Let the teachings of our Lord Jesus Christ GUIDE us. Let us live according to His will.
We should be genuine in dealing with our Lord or else all the labors we have will be in vain.
I still think this whole thing is suspicious. Why did this only come out after he died?
Everyone falling on their own sword.
@@elizabethbeal5406 Yes, it is suspicious. I can't believe it, but we don't really know the whole story. May the truth be revealed.
THERE IS POWER IN LOVE AND FORGIVENESS. ALL GLORY TO GOD FOREVER 🙏🙏🙏❤
His content should not be taken down. Let the first person without sin cast the first stone... therefore, give me a name who spreads the Gospel, without sin in their life. The Gospel is still the Gospel. If any of Ravis content wasn’t doing His will, then take it down. But I challenge you to show me, which of Ravis content, books or social media, would be considered heresy or blasphemy? Do not take down Ravis content. Please. Can you tell her this?
Exactly. 100%. Please do NOT take his content down.
I support too. Don't ever take those contents down. In fact, I caught this news today while seeking on youtube if Ravi ever spoke on a subject of concern. Although I have been distracted with this news, but I have gotten over this shock and I beg you (his daughter) not to take his contents down. There is a book he promised will be out at his demise, I have waiting for this book. Please I need it out. His words were exceptional.
The sins he committed hurt his teachings. Think about someone listening to him who is new to Christ, they'll read his works and then find out who he is and what he done and think, well if this great man of God is still supported by the christian community, this type of living in sin must be fine with God. We aren't supposed to teach people to live in sin, we are supposed to teach people that yes all sin but we must all repent.
Just a thought. God bless
May Lord be with his daughter an wife ;Let them look on their heavenly father Jesus and run the race victorious.
Yep. Someone has played a big big game on the RZ family and his ministry. Someone who wanted a part of the money left behind and someone who was RZ's enemy.
I think throwing away Ravi's books and taking down his podcasts and videos, is just a knee jerk reaction. I would equate that to removing all the writings of Solomon from the Bible, because he got into idolatry at the end of his life. Ravi was a hypocrite indeed, but it does not take away the truthfulness of his message, which he outlined both in his books and on other platforms. I will continue to watch his videos and read his books, in order to strengthen my own apologetics for Christ.
That’s deep. I agree.
I agree also
Bro, relax. King Solomon never got into idolatry. From where you guys get your info
@@LimitedKnowledge12 how are you brother? I am sorry to reference so many verses but I wanted you to understand the context.
Solomon’s Heart Turns from the Lord
1 Kings 11:1 But King Solomon loved many foreign women, as well as the daughter of Pharaoh: women of the Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Sidonians, and Hittites- 2 from the nations of whom the Lord had said to the children of Israel, “You shall not intermarry with them, nor they with you. Surely they will turn away your hearts after their gods.” Solomon clung to these in love. 3 And he had seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines; and his wives turned away his heart. 4 For it was so, when Solomon was old, that his wives turned his heart after other gods; and his heart was not loyal to the Lord his God, as was the heart of his father David. 5 For Solomon went after Ashtoreth the goddess of the Sidonians, and after the abomination of the Ammonites. 6 Solomon did evil in the sight of the Lord, and did not fully follow the Lord, as didhis father David.
I think this is a bit different than Solomon altho I agree with general premise.
sad, sad, sad to end the name that was most admired in Christian world
He WAS admired. He is no longer admired. The organization is taking admirable action. The Gospel is more important than any one messenger who carries it. Ravi’s name is unimportant. The message of hope in Christ is infinitely important.
Not most admired, get over yourself.
Jesus’ name is most admired to Christians.
@@toliveischrist950 Yes, so true.
...and the demons tremble at His name!
Hate the sin. Not the ministry. Remember what the Lord says, "who among you who is without sin, cast the first stone".
Have compassion to the family and friends. Try to emphatize by putting ourselves in their shoes. His daughter is strong to face this and on a global level.
Let us rather learn the lesson and not feed our inclination to criticize and judge.
Thank you for this video.
This is nonsense. You can have compassion for the existing members of RZIM but still ask them to shut down. Forgiving people is different from letting them continue on in a capacity. I could forgive a pedophile but I wouldn't think it wise to keep them near children in the future. God doesn't need RZIM. He can raise up any one he wants. RZIM's name change is great but it's founder is a sexual predator. WHY carry the legacy?
Does any one know why Samson is there in the heroes roll of honour in Heb 11?
It has been sad and traumatic for very many of us, but let us not act God.
The ministry has a massive Achilles heal in the sense that it does not fall into a biblically-given category. What is it, exactly? A church? And I’m convinced that the non-biblical format was a major contributor/enabler to Ravi’s sin - Ravi was almost completely unaccountable to any church or body of elders.
@@PaDutchRunner as far as I know, RZIM was not connected/depended/accountable to any church. It was (past tense) and Apologetics ministry.....subject to no one. Ravi was gone, for what I’ve heard, months at a time. I’ve donated to this ministry. Due to the nature of the horrible events that have taken place, this ministry has to be shut down. All assets have to be TRANSFERRED not SOLD to other 503(c) (?) ministries. It is over
Ashley.......do the victims agree with you? Have YOU.....tried to reach out to the victims.....women.....like YOU......? The ministry was NOT accountable to any church...not overseeing authorities.....opening the opportunity to what occurred. My suggestion......Ashley....is that YOU.......reach out to those women....like.....YOU....and have......compassion for them?. The ministry is over. It has to be shut down.
I pray all the survivors get healing in THE NAME Of JESUS. This goes to show us we must always keep our eyes on CHRIST as leaders lead us.
Thank you for praying over them and over this whole situation!!
@@RespondingtotheCall GLORY To GOD my brother, we are our brother's keeper responsible for each other, as The Body Of CHRIST what happens to one member affects us all, so let's help and pray for one another.
David and Uriah - do we now stop reading Ps 22 and Ps 23 and his other writings?
...that's right ! maybe throw the whole book out.
...those who are not wise would. "...when the Spirit of truth is come, He will guide you into all truth"... God will help us sort things out.
As with King David, there had to be lower echelon people who knew. Why didn't someone be his Nathan and condemn his sin?
Ravi was given to opportunity to confess but he denied it all publicly.
Yes let’s talk about it. Dear people, do not bring down the man of God for the sin he committed. This just validates that the Bible is true. You look at men in the Bible and see they fell in terrible sin, look at David who committed adultery and was a murderer, what about Solomon who had thousands of wives and Concubines, or Noah who was a drunker, or Paul who was a murderer, Abraham slept with someone who was not his wife and made another child who was not the chosen one and so many more who God used. These are men just like us. Christians why cry Ravi down, instead defend him, not the sin but because he was one of us. You leave nothing for the ungodly. Why take down his messages when they have inspired many, is it no God’s word? My friends understand this is a ploy of the enemy and it came from right in his ministries. Ravi is wearing his crowns in Heaven and did a good job here on earth. Well done to the man of God. Many cant carry the anointing he did. Target him down now, when he cannot defend himself, try to erase him so the word of God cannot travel across the world. You all are ridiculous. God qualified him and he has run his course. Well done.
@@jaheimthomas_official are u serious ??🤔 ravi was no man of God cut that out man , I will defend my Heavenly Father and anyone who comes in my fathers name to make themselves look good an yet do evil and conceal evil and rape someone or many an be a sexual predator needs exposed and is evil , woe to u who calls evil good and good evil
@@Mayoyaquiwarrior and you are God to judge whether he was a man of God or not. I pitty you. Woe to you for your level of intelligence is as low as the dust of the earth and stupidity as high as the heavens. You cut it out, I would expect that you are not a Christian so you are not seeing the bigger picture being unraveled here. I defend no evil. But as I said, if you disqualify Dr. Ravi, you disqualify everyone else who went down a similar path in the Bible and if you do that, you disqualify the Bible, and if you do that, you disqualify God.
What a surprise....God will drain the SWAMP IN HIS CHURCH!!!
It seems so clear that the Zacharias Family has a great understanding of The Word &, The Heart of the Holy Spirit. To be grieving his loss ( the person they knew & loved) & to have such shocking revelations is much more then most could handle. Their actions validate their genuine Love for Jesus.
In midst of such pain they don’t just speak but Act to make necessary amends to those harmed. Thank you Family for giving the Body of Christ a stellar example of how Christians should deal w the unfortunate sin fails in our own and loved ones lives. All of the steps they are taking does speak to the goodness & love & teaching Ravi gave his family. Jesus gets 100% credit and it seems “The World” will get a lesson in How Christians are to Repent & make Recompense to those harmed. I pray Sara & family will continue to embrace what God has
Very well said
Mai Ying Drinkard ,
Changing to a new ministry from RZIM is still a reminder what these victims had to endure and going through. This is nothing more about than protecting their millions of dollar enterprise. Plain and simple. Yes, I agree that they should solely assist and helping with counseling the victims. That should be the main focus and then completely quietly exit out from their business ministry eventually. If even under a new name ministry. It's still a reminder for these victims. It's about protecting their money and nothing more than money. It speaks louder than words. So I think it's the appropriate way to go about it and right thing to do.
Would also like to add there's a good chance his daughter and board of directors knew Ravi's sinful behavior but kept it under wraps. Till there was so much evidence that she had to respond. Look how long it took her to break silence. I'm sure the insiders of that organization knew what's going on, but kept silence. Got to protect their leader. Right?
They should refund all the moneys sent in by the believers they tricked! He was a liar, adulterer and thief!
I pity any who were taken-in by his 'artificial regal atmosphere' !!! What a man does reveals much more
about his character than the unreliable words he speaks! SHAME ON HIM ~ Judgement Day is coming !
@@kerrytom4731 they knew going back as far as 1976? in Canada - the board knew because they were paying the rent on the 'villa's' he was living in in Thailand, they knew how much was being spent for a personal masseuse to travel with him - they knew about his personal expenses - they knew about the spas -sheesh
God is cleaning house...all those who run their churches and ministries like businesses...be warned...Christ instituted church to be family...brothers and sisters...not ceo....staff...partners etc... turn over their money tables Lord
You will not get a little red heart from this Adam guy for your comment. It's too real.
Prayers and love to his wife and daughter. Thank you for looking at Jesus and nothing else. Praying specially for his wife and family
All my respect and prayers for Sarah Davis. God will see you, your family and the new organization through. Don't give up. God be with you!
Sarah was part of problem in that organization. When information about ravis behavior was out, Sarah, the CEO and other executives hid then truth from coming out. Please be wise so you won’t get disappointed again, and put your trust in Jesus name!
I really think that Ravi family needs prayers. I don't know how I would function amid that mess. A lesson to be learned is knowing God personally. Know God for yourself.
Absolutely 💯@DunstanStLuce! Appreciate you speaking into this. May God give us all the wisdom to guard our hearts and walk in love and humility.
So true
She’s a very courageous woman!
The family needs prayers.
Absolutely agree.
I never believes Ravi Zacharias does any wrong things in his life, all are false allegations. If it was true, why nobody expose Ravi Zacharias before his death?
That family will need serious prayer for continued strength.
Absolutely Kristina! Thanks for praying.
May Jesus give Margie & the children the strength & comfort to overcome all this & move on ahead working to spread the love of Christ.
It’s truly admirable that the children are working to help the victims instead of going into denial and becoming accusers.
I salute you Ravi’s family 🙏🏽
For there is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed, and nothing concealed that will not be known or brought out into the open. - Luke 8:17
This was so heartbreaking on so many levels for so many people. God gave him a gift of evangelism which he used. He also had a demon. I pray that the people whom he brought to Jesus Christ will continue to spread the message of redemption forgiveness and love even under the circumstances. Let He who is without sin cast the first stone.
I know that his family did not want this to happen however it begs the question how could they not have known ESPECIALLY his wife. I am sorry but when your husband is away over 250 days of the year mostly without her is my understanding , and traveling with a female massage person , owning shares in a “ day spa”
and having communication devices not part of the ministry grid. These are all red flags that most women who value their marriage would address. In addition to this I believe someone had addressed the fact that his wife was highly involved in running the ministry along with his daughters. I wish the daughter would have addressed this question. How much did they actually know?
I completely agree. It’s disappointing that no one (as far as I know) in the organization or within his family has admitted to knowing what had been going on for so long. They absolutely should’ve addressed that one way or the other.
From what I understand, he had little to no oversight, and lost his temper in rather flamboyant ways when anyone tried to make him accountable. If anyone knew anything, they were certainly too scared to speak out.
@@southernisraelite5167, respectfully, how can you defend a man who has done such evil to women?
@@valeriemartens-schultz2999 YOU CAN'T ! That simple ! To defend it is to make it acceptable for
others to do !!! NEVER N E V E R ! He was doing evil to the public who listened to him + he was
doing evil to his family + the mission board + he did commit adultery countless times + lied +
stole from contributors + flaunted his sins in the face of our God !!! D E F E N D = N E V E R !!!
Also i believe they as trustees are refusing to overturn the NDA in Lorrie Anne's case?
So many churches and ministries have swept scandals under the carpet and thrown the victims to the curb. This is refreshing to hear and promising. Prayers for the victims and the family who is having to mop up the mess.
This ministry needs to disband -- this cannot be restored nor should it be!! This is nonsense
Don't you think they should close the institute and make the leadership accountable. It seems like they've washed their hands from Ravi's actions. They empowered him. PERIOD.
There is no way anyone can deny they empowered him. That’s why they’re in the situation that they’re in now and it’s shameful and rather embarrassing.
For all of us who loved Ravi and his gentle spirit and profound patience - just gut wrenching no matter what. Can't imagine what it is like for his wife, his family, and all those who were so close to him. It definitely demonstrates the truth of scripture... "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?" (Jeremiah 17:9) Be vigilant believers! No one is immune. ...
I pray for all those affected especially his wife that she will have courage to move forward.
Wife was complicit because she turned a blind eye to his failures, you read a book, you know it’s contents, you live with someone, you get to see the raw side of that someone.
Wife is still complicit to this day. The wife refused to release Lori Anne Thompson from the NDA. She is protecting the trust and the funds. She is keeping a tight grip on the evidence and flow of accusations so she can spin it to suit the narrative and work FOR RZIM instead of AGAINST it.
When the board is made public. Then the board and all leadership resign I wi believe they are serious. At the moment the ones who have presided over and allowed this to happen are now the same ones who have decided they are the best ones qualified to lead the solution. Guessing they are all still getting an income from this organization. Changing the name with same leadership does nothing
Hey Cindy, I see what you’re saying for sure and lots of people have said the same. Yet I’m trying to look at it from a different angle I guess. My whole point of all 6 of these videos about Ravi was to help Christ-followers to guard their heart and trust the Lord while processing and praying over all involved. We can focus on RZIM and the Board or we can focus on the people they’ve affected-the victims. It seems to me they want to reach out to more victims and are giving every available resource for that publicly. Some might say “too little, too late” but I would say better now than never. Is it ideal? Of course not. Much damage has been done to their lives and to the name of Christ. Ultimately I’m choosing to believe that they want to move forward until I have definitive proof otherwise. Right now, I see an avenue for women to come forward and heal, paid for and supplied by the ministry. That’s a good start.
@@RespondingtotheCall I guess I wonder why we would have to choose? Why would it be one or the other? Can't we/they focus on both? Expecting them to dismantle the board and remove leadership acknowledges accountability for the ambitious leaders who contributed to this abuse by turning a blind eye and sweeping it under the rug for years to maintain the ministry. That seems like the honorable thing to do. I see it as a vital part of providing help and support for the victims of Ravi....showing them true repentance and a commitment to making sure it won't happen again. Changing the name of the organization seems like an easy out for people who may have been culpable in the devastation of these women. Almost a way of keeping the revenue stream flowing and the ministry rolling along by sidestepping and distancing themselves from the obvious questions.
Agree, leadership are either morally corrupted/blinded by money or stupidly undiscerning to be in a leadership position. There is a word in the work place applied to management: " ought to have known " .
@@ResponsibleFaith I completely agree with you. The members of the board should be dismissed.
I agree with Cindy. They've then some good steps but more needs to be done.
Also, it doesn't seem plausible that no one knew what he was doing to these women.
There are reports that those in leadership were quite dismissive of concerns that were brought to their attention.
Because this was consensual on the part of these adult women, it wasn't sexual abuse - it was sexual impropriety.
Big difference!
I think he or she that is >>without sin
Kind of taking that scripture out of context. Read the report. He damaged a lot of people. Also, he could have chosen to come forward & confessed to his family...but he did not.
That text is not a command to completely ignore everything a person does. Jesus knew the Pharisees were hypocrites and were only condemning this woman as a means of trying to condemn him in some way. Paul repeatedly called out people (and named names) when they were practicing sin (not just committing a sin, but practicing it). Ravi did not just stumble, he was continually practicing sin and intentionally covering it up. When one of the women did speak up (I think it was in 2018) he falsely accused her of lying and slandered her. Even after this point of almost getting caught he kept sinning at least up to 3 months before he died (we know this from his phone data). While I hope Ravi repented at some point before he died we have nothing to indicate that. From our perspective we call out what we see. If God knows something we don't about Ravi he will judge him accordingly, but we can and should make a judgement from what we know, which includes completely condemning what he did and helping the victims of his sin.
Sin has deep claws, and it seems they were deep into Ravi.
We NEED to learn from this: 1) continuous Repentance and Confession, and 2) Continuous accountability. It's just stupid to think that a good and godly man is exempt from temptation and sin. Any ministry leader who wants to avoid this kind of catastrophic failure should go to a Celebrate Recovery meeting to see what that looks like. It's not our job to judge, but be on guard, lest we fall into sin. Perhaps if I (or others) had the courage to give my testimony of confession and repentance to Ravi 2 years ago when I saw him, he might have repented. Take away: What's your testimony of confession and repentance? Who are your accountability people?
That’s out of context. Hypocrites are not to judge. Wisdom includes judgment. Otherwise the victims are dismissed. Where’s the justice in that?
Have you ever read 1 Cor. 5? Additionally, the passage you quote in John 8 is NOT in the earliest and most reliable manuscripts. It was added by a scribe, as it was a popular story going around about Jesus at one time. But it never made sense to me. Jesus was the One who commanded the Jews to stone adulterers. He would have been denying His own COMMAND!
Hope people find peace but I feel that he was not saved but his apologetic argument based in his books and videos were absolutely researched and well structured. I am deeply hurted knowing about Ravi but thank Lord that I never put my trust in him but I used his resources to help other non believers to understand Christ.
When did God ask you to be the Holy Spirit and know who is saved or not?🙄
We need more than intellectual understanding of Christ. A believer is someone who lives like Jesus, is becoming more like Jesus, has a deep relationship with Jesus. We've lost the whole basis of relationship and somehow equate apologetics with being a Jesus follower.
You have a point, Shilpa. 1 John 3 says that the authentic Christian does not go on practicing sin. John clearly did not mean that the Christian becomes sinlessly perfect because we all fall and fail since we have the sin nature within us. However, the authentic Christian should NOT be involved in practicing sin. Yet, this is exactly what Ravi did. He not only made provision for the flesh, but designed much of his life so that he could sin freely. Even when things began to come out, instead of repenting, he dug deeper to hide his sins. His entire adult life was one lie after another - credentials, sexting, rape, unwanted fondling and touching.
I'm also having a hard time with trying to understand it. When King David sinned, he did so in a stupid moment of passion. It was still sin of course but it was different from the lifestyle of sin that Ravi created. Note also that the consequences of David's sin remained even after his heartfelt repentance.
When did Ravi ever repent? I don't recall him ever repenting publicly.
Regarding his apologetics...they were okay as far as they went but if you look carefully in many of his Q & As or speeches, he was much more of a story teller than an expositor of God's Word.
I want ministry of Jesus to continue, please do not leave Jesus ministry.
Their course of action is commendable.
Praying for RZIM...... may the Lord heal them
Thank you!! And amen.
@Adam Simon - Responding to the Call who are you and why are you putting up this same response over and over?
RZ slipped first theologically at his association and speaking in Mormons temple. I was flabbergasted. Then his scandals in his credentials of Cambridge University, then his non-disclosure agreement with the lady and her husband, starting a massage parlour which may people think the other way! (Should he have stated that business???, Was it suitable for him as a Christian minister? Did he need to earn extra money? Did he begin with the wrong motives of that business?)
We will get all our answers, only when we go to heaven, I guess
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Bless her. this must have been so difficult for her. I wonder though if they have believed it all right away because they know.......often families receive abuse too but are afraid to speak out probably never imagining it would go beyond the doors of their home. May God pour out His comfort and protection of this family and bring healing to them all in the fulness of time. He makes all things beautiful in His time.
@Adam Simon - Responding to the Call Get thee behind me Satan....
Sooo very sad that this had to happen, but it most assuredly did. My heart goes out to the victims, including his family, for all their suffering!
Thank you!
Did it? Did you read the report put out? The reports finding were inconclusive and lacking in anything substantial.
My thinking is that when people who have gifts get detached and independent from a local body of believers...accountability goes out the window and temptation gains in power . This is the criticism I have of all these internet "prophets" because prophecy is a gift to be exercised in the body of Christ .
You know it could be lies. The dead man can't even defend himself. The words of jezebels against a dead man.
@@Joshuatree7746 I accept that as a possibility...I turn the fact that I have no way of knowing...over to God who knows all things . I for one have not abandoned the things which Ravi Zacharias said that were true...just because anyone turns against the Bible , doesn't make the Bible untrue either...and the fact that even the Devil can quote scripture doesn't poison the scripture. I always keep in mind that one of the most evil people in the history of the world told the truth when he said " The bigger the lie, the more people will believe it "...that person was Adolf Hitler...and he proved that to be true.
Absolutely heart wrenching!
I pray God's blessjng and grace on the Zacharias family.
I could not even begin to fathom the pain and hurt the family has had to come to terms with.
Ravi did wrong, but his content is still true. And to take down his online content is silly. Peter denied Christ and his testimony of Jesus is still true. Secret sins of Christians doesn't make the message of Christ false. Truth is irrespective of the utterer. "Judge righteous judgements"
Can’t believe it. So sad for his family. Used to listen to him all the time
I’m with you. Same here. The least I can do is pray for his family, for the victims, and for the advance of the Gospel
This is disgraceful. Claiming ignorance of what at least someone in this organization had to know is simply doing corporate damage control. Follow the money. This will answer all the questions. They knew... they had to know.
We don't know if they really know. Ravi founded the organization and could have easily manipulated it.
Ravi's actions hurtful & deplorable!!! Thankful to RZIM for all their responses now! This is commendable! He's not the first nor will he be the last...unless the Church determines to become personally, each one, knowledgeable in Truth, to learn how to stop elevating, idolizing & creating celebrities of leaders, (like the world) from the pastor of the little assembly to the mega ones on tv & all others made famous. The Body of Christ has no hierarchy! We respect & honor those laboring in the Word to teach & pastor God's way (we can only judge that w/individual studies!) who do it to make mature believers for the work of growing the Body of Christ & no other reason! Thru "right" knowledge by studying to show each one an "approved workman unto God, rightly dividing the Word of Truth" & growth, we would hold the leaders & each other to account & prevent all from going astray! His sins r now public, what of the secret ones still? All sin is sin!!! Grow in Grace & learn that all flesh is susceptible & putting leaders on pedestals thinking they're more 'Godly', only provides them more opportunities to sin greater. That's the meaning & only reason for Church! It's time for Jesus' Church to grow up in right knowledge of the only true Gospel of Grace that 'professing christians' choose Life & be saved, & true Christian lives become transformed by renewing of their minds & all to walk by faith not sight, in the Spirit not the flesh. Walking in the Spirit is about right knowledge of God's Word, that's full of power, personally studied, "effectually working" in the believer, not fake emotionalism! It's by Grace we're saved & only Grace produces the Godly life! What are u hearing?
That statement by Sarah Davis truly comes from a deeply caring place. A statement like this alone really begins the healing process for the victims. They can be heard, believed, and helped in whatever way possible to heal. I plead the blood of Jesus over Ravi's family, all his victims, former employees, and all Christians affected by this situation. May Dr. Jesus completely heal and deliver everyone affected that needs healing and deliverance. SHALOM
They are afraid of the ministry being shut down that's why they are complying. I bet if Ravi was still alive they would of stood behind him in defense. That tells you what money does. We truly need to seek God first because nothing else matters. Can't take anything with you when he calls.
You who is free of sin cast the first stone god. Bless ravis family in this difficult time
+Way to go Sarah! I wish other 'Christian' denominations would do the same when face with similar scandals instead of hemming and hawing only to finally side with their pastors who for them are like GOD himself, infallible. If you all are honest and sincere about all that you said, which appears to be the case, then God will surely give you all the strength to go through this very, very tough process.
I am both humbled and honored at how they have responded. When I started hearing allegations in 2018 I was heartbroken and in disbelief. As an overcomer I am greatly encouraged by their response. May the ministry grow bigger than ever imagined as it is CHRIST that the ministry exist. May the Zacharias family heal and may ALL who were victims heal by the power of the Holy Spirit and in the name of Christ Jesus.
Amen Nadia!
I'm coming in mid-stream on this whole thing, so bear with me....
What actual proof is there that Ravi is actually guilty of these allegations? If they are true without question, how did he/they keep them buried all this time until his death (when he has no way of refuting them)...??
I am so sorry for the taking down of any of Ravi works. We still have the work of some nasty people such as Hitler, Wilde and so on.
I think that the ministry of RZIM on apologetics have created a sense of pride in their sucess in profoundly utilizing their (own man's) intelligence to explain the defense of the christian faith that in the process have clouded and failed to exercise dicernment in figuring out something was off with Ravi. As such, Apologetics need to be redefined, bec. JESUS, before responding to the pharisees , knows how they think.
Hey Nathaniel! How would you redefine it?
Adam, thank you for your courage to address this incredibly difficult issue!
Absolutely Renate! Appreciate the support and thank you for watching!
How sad that insight & knowledge can only come from perfected people. There will, literally, never be any.
I think first of all women shouldn't agree to massage men. Hello somebody,?? Go to his hotel room? I don't think so. . .