how is it possible that you guys only have this amount of subscribers... i mean, your videos are quite straight forward and the production quality is amazing, on the other side with funny jokes which I like a lot:)
Probably the best Levo vs Levo SL comparison I watched so far. For once the review emphasis not only on pure torque. Well done guys for this reasonable and real-life review.
I've been riding the SL for close to six months and it is a gem. I mostly ride the rolling, undulating, sweet turning trails in the JEM trail system near Zion National Park and I wouldn't want anything different. Takes the stress off my poor knees and pushes me when my COVID depleted lungs are struggling. 👍
Thanks for the comparison. I have an SL, had a full powered ebike before And I wouldn’t go back. The SL just feels better to me. The cut offs are a bold choice, they’d be fitting for a mullet bike comparison.
I just got a 2021 Turbo Levo Comp. Having the extra power available is a nice feature on the Levo but the SL would be adequate. To me the SL feels like a mountain bike. The Levo rides a bit like a dirt bike. I have an MX background so I chose the Levo. Also I think the Levo should have better resale options. They are both great bikes.
Good review comparison. I have a Turbo Levo SL while my wife has a regular Turbo Levo. This pairing creates a good match for us! Yes, she can cruise by me on significant uphills; but, the SL's agility makes up in all other areas.
Hmm I am the opposite. I was wanting the SL because I have a hard time lifting the turbo on and off my bike rack. I also feel a lil nervous about big drops (I feel my front end gets pulled down and I'm wondering if I'll be able to be more steezy on jumps if I go lighter. So I'm not sure which one to go with.
@@chercleveland3375 I must say that my SL is VERY close in overall handling to my Santa Cruz Hightower. And all of the techniques learned on a regular mtb transfer over to my SL. Wonderful bike!
I am definitely a Levo SL fan! The power is of course extremely nice on the Turbo Levo, but powering through singletrack and into berms is definitely my favorite thing!
5'8 and 210 lbs. I ride a 30lb Bronson and 41lb Fatbike. SL would slot between them and I think would be perfect. But, we have tight woods up and lots of single track... not fire/gravel roads like these guys have.
good video. good explanation. is the smaller motor quieter (advantage)? needed more explanation about what is the chain stay and why you mentioned it please? what are the +/- buttons for? no-one ever talks about them. walk button rarely mentioned. how loud are the motors?
Just bought a discontinued Bulls Wildflow with the new Fazua 55 nm motor. Its about 42 lbs so much closer to the Levo SL. Cant wait to try it out on some trails as my test ride on the street and up a pretty good hill was really easy and so maneuverable. Its pretty sad that they are not offering it anymore at least in the US.
hi hello with your experience in e-MTB, which bike would you think is best between 2023 turbo levo base carbon or 2023 Marin E2. FYI my style of riding is not a factor. I want to know what YOU think. THANK YOU
Love this video. I took my turbo levo comp out for a rip this morning and there were a few sections where I definitely would have benefited from dropping a few pounds. Makes me wonder if I made the right choice!
I have spent considerable time on both models and in my opinion, the Levo comps are very hard to beat. Stable, great power and sure footed. Installed a levociraptor, cushcore, trailwatts battery extender (950whs now), larger front rotor and Slx brakes. Totally awesome!
I just got the Turbo Levo and after 3 weeks of riding with lots of hill climbs…. I think I’ve used the Turbo mode for a total of maybe 1 minute… mostly for curiosity. I prefer to be in Eco and Trail which is about 50/50 for me. I am considering to trade in for the SL but I heard the SL motor starts whining at higher RPM and that’s not nice considering my preferred cadence is 80-90+.
Bought a turbo Levo comp. my Adventure motorcycle weighs 440lbs, so the turbo Levo seems really light to me. As a 63 year old , I’ll take all the help I can get! May sell the motorcycle??? Can access so much more here in upstate NY on an EMB, not very gas powered off road friendly here in the ADK.
So I need to buy a turbo or SL and I'm not sure which one. When using a turbo I can keep up with my ebike friends (I imagine I could with SL too) but if they are in ebike I'm left in the dust no matter what I ride. So keeping up isn't a selling point for me. Why do you wish you had SL still? Is it because you feel more nimble on it like it's easier to control or...?
Have not seen in the different reviews a discussion on rider weight. I have a full fat and my wife decided to go with the SL, the ratio of bike weight vs rider weight and also power vs rider weight just made more sense to go SL for her.
How does she like her SL? Do you guys ever switch? I'm a girl having to chose between the 2 now and I have a bunch of guys telling me to get the full levo. I personally have never used the highest mode on the turbo levo. I love jumping and dropping but I also like stability in rock gardens. I don't have a way to try an SL without a 10 hour drive in a geography completely different then my home. :/
@@chercleveland3375 still winter here in the cold north so not much experience to share. If on the levo you never use turbo you should be ok on the sl as the turbo on the sl is similar to trail on the levo. If you do not ride much up big hills and do not ride with friend that like to ride turbo on their levos it should be good. A full fat is huge for ladies.
I have to make a decision to buy the turbo levo or SL. Please help me choose! I'm female. I rarely do long climbs. I want an Ebike to ride faster so I can jump bigger and better, shred harder and keep up with my pals. I have been borrowing a turbo levo but l need help loading it on and off rack. If no one can help I remove the battery but it's still pretty miserable. I have no problem loading my normal bike. I have yet to ride the turbo levo in boost mode. I started using trail mode recently and only on a few tiny sections. I mostly use Eco so far but I see myself using trail mode more often in the future. On the turbo levo I have definitely improved my jumping, overall riding skills and keep up with the guys. So I'm buying an ebike. Should I go with SL because people say it's lighter and more nimble and should be easier to jump, do drops and load onto car. Or should I stick with turbo levo because I'm already used to it and it's more stable, faster, longer battery and I think the sound is less annoying but it's insanely hard for me to lift. Please help!
I would recommend you getting the SL because of the weight issue you are describing. Over time you will get used to the power of the SL compared to the more powerful Turbo Levo. I have a 2020 Turbo Levo Comp and it is awesome, but it is heavy to lift. I ordered a 2021 Levo SL and should take delivery on it tomorrow and will have a better recommendation for you in a couple of weeks.
I bought the turbo levo full. I'm jumping way better than I ever have thought possible. I found a method to load it onto my car rack. And as for not getting a work out it's just not true... I used to ride everyday and now that I'm riding double the amount of trails, sessioning jumps like crazy I need a day off to recover and can only manage every other day for now. I am loving this E experience more than I ever imagined! Riding was already amazing but now it's triple amazing!
I am 64 and have a Turbo Levo but I like the idea of a lighter bike for 2 reasons. #1- it is super heavy to lift onto the bike rack #2- I have had crashes because I am unable to quickly stop the bike from tipping over because it is so heavy. Is it me or did the Levo SL sound much louder? That is important to me since I ride mostly with non ebikers and don't want to bother them with the noise.
You hear an ebike motor more when on it than being around it, So when dudes with camera/Mics ride theses bikes the noise is amplified. You'll have to test a bike out with someone riding along side you, Or vice versa, To get a true answer to your worry.
I choose the turbo levo comp w/o riding both. The one thing I really like about turbo levo is on some very steep little climbs that look un climbable. I’ve found on turbo you can get up things that almost don’t make sense if you can balance and learn that skill; it’s very cool coming off analog bikes and I don’t think the SL would be able to do the same at all. Thoughts? Solid vid👍
Hi I am considering getting a levo , the full fat one , a 2020 model , this to replace my Scott E strike 940, May I ask your opinion, I use the bike at trail centres , crossing the Pentland hills and a bit of commuting , should I do it ?
I have the Levo HT, has the 1.2e motor, hardly ever sees Turbo, mostly eco. How do you think the SL motor compares if you have rode both? Looking for a lightweight option and torn between the SL and the Rise
It seems as though the only tests anyone conducts for EMTB is climbing and then going on a gravity downhill. It misses an entire segment of in between stuff, rolling terrain. with short climbs and such…In these spots there is no question that the turbo Levo is faster. Where the SL bikes struggle, both Kenevo and Levo is having a lack of torque.. Any sort of rise that is hit is a problem. If you are simply shuttling and dropping in on a gravity run, it’s not as big a deal, and the SL’s are definitely more “poppy” on the downhills and jumps.
I rode both bikes and actually tend to the Levo because of the motor “noise” of the SL. Did you make the same experience? Because i have heard that there are different SL motor noises around?
Seems as though the SL rider could ride from his house to meet the Turbo rider who drives to the trailhead. Then, the SL rider could pedal back home or get a ride with the Turbo rider depending on the duration of the group ride.
It really depends on where youre riding. If youre in an area where theres alot of steep hills or trails turbo levo all the way. But if you live in an are where theres not much any steep hills or trails the SL would be more than enough.
No one has mentioned it but………….One annoying thing about the Levo is the motor drag after you reach over 20 MPH, it’s like the brakes get put on. Let’s face it MTBing is not just up or down, but can be lots of flow, this is what I like about the SL, after 20 MPH the bike just transitions back and forth with no drag at all.
It looking for what choice into the game or how old are you, levo is perfect matching at the sport without painful, levo Sl say you still younger 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
how is it possible that you guys only have this amount of subscribers... i mean, your videos are quite straight forward and the production quality is amazing, on the other side with funny jokes which I like a lot:)
Hey Thanks Andreas! I really appreciate that. Short answer: I don't know! Help us spread the word ;-)
Probably the best Levo vs Levo SL comparison I watched so far. For once the review emphasis not only on pure torque. Well done guys for this reasonable and real-life review.
I've been riding the SL for close to six months and it is a gem. I mostly ride the rolling, undulating, sweet turning trails in the JEM trail system near Zion National Park and I wouldn't want anything different. Takes the stress off my poor knees and pushes me when my COVID depleted lungs are struggling. 👍
Thanks for the comparison. I have an SL, had a full powered ebike before And I wouldn’t go back. The SL just feels better to me. The cut offs are a bold choice, they’d be fitting for a mullet bike comparison.
Jean shorts. Every. Single. Day. 🤠
@@FlyRidesUSA I became tired of the strings tickling my legs and had to give them up. Great channel. Thanks for the info.
@@driftlessareasingletrack2933 Thanks mate!
I just got a 2021 Turbo Levo Comp. Having the extra power available is a nice feature on the Levo but the SL would be adequate. To me the SL feels like a mountain bike. The Levo rides a bit like a dirt bike. I have an MX background so I chose the Levo. Also I think the Levo should have better resale options. They are both great bikes.
Totally agree!
Excellent side by side comparison AND you guys are so entertaining on top of it all!
Thanks Deanna!
Good review comparison. I have a Turbo Levo SL while my wife has a regular Turbo Levo. This pairing creates a good match for us! Yes, she can cruise by me on significant uphills; but, the SL's agility makes up in all other areas.
I love this! Just goes to show Turbo Levo SL's and Turbo Levos can ride together!
@@FlyRidesUSA Subscribed. And we will be heading over to the local bike park to work on riding skills this afternoon.
@@billderas3420 Thanks Bill! I should probably get out as well!
Hmm I am the opposite. I was wanting the SL because I have a hard time lifting the turbo on and off my bike rack. I also feel a lil nervous about big drops (I feel my front end gets pulled down and I'm wondering if I'll be able to be more steezy on jumps if I go lighter.
So I'm not sure which one to go with.
@@chercleveland3375 I must say that my SL is VERY close in overall handling to my Santa Cruz Hightower. And all of the techniques learned on a regular mtb transfer over to my SL. Wonderful bike!
I am definitely a Levo SL fan! The power is of course extremely nice on the Turbo Levo, but powering through singletrack and into berms is definitely my favorite thing!
I have a creo, went 170 miles on a bikepaking trip. 30% battery left. also have a 2018 levo that never sees anything past eco. eyeing the sl.
Great review. Thanks. I'm 6'2" - 220lbs. Not even considering the SL. Cheers
5'8 and 210 lbs. I ride a 30lb Bronson and 41lb Fatbike.
SL would slot between them and I think would be perfect. But, we have tight woods up and lots of single track... not fire/gravel roads like these guys have.
Thanks for the breakdown! I think I need both :)
Like they say in that commercial: Por qué no los dos? 😉
good video. good explanation. is the smaller motor quieter (advantage)? needed more explanation about what is the chain stay and why you mentioned it please? what are the +/- buttons for? no-one ever talks about them. walk button rarely mentioned. how loud are the motors?
Just bought a discontinued Bulls Wildflow with the new Fazua 55 nm motor. Its about 42 lbs so much closer to the Levo SL. Cant wait to try it out on some trails as my test ride on the street and up a pretty good hill was really easy and so maneuverable. Its pretty sad that they are not offering it anymore at least in the US.
hi hello with your experience in e-MTB, which bike would you think is best between 2023 turbo levo base carbon or 2023 Marin E2. FYI my style of riding is not a factor. I want to know what YOU think. THANK YOU
Love this video. I took my turbo levo comp out for a rip this morning and there were a few sections where I definitely would have benefited from dropping a few pounds. Makes me wonder if I made the right choice!
That Turbo Levo Comp is a great value though! Maybe grab the SL next??
I have spent considerable time on both models and in my opinion, the Levo comps are very hard to beat. Stable, great power and sure footed. Installed a levociraptor, cushcore, trailwatts battery extender (950whs now), larger front rotor and Slx brakes. Totally awesome!
I was pleasantly surprised with the SL. Have to earn it a bit more, but it still really helps with some big climbs albeit, just a hair slower.
Ya love my sl, i do have to spin more on the climbs to keep up with my brother in law on his levo though
Very balanced review. Thank you !
I just got the Turbo Levo and after 3 weeks of riding with lots of hill climbs…. I think I’ve used the Turbo mode for a total of maybe 1 minute… mostly for curiosity. I prefer to be in Eco and Trail which is about 50/50 for me. I am considering to trade in for the SL but I heard the SL motor starts whining at higher RPM and that’s not nice considering my preferred cadence is 80-90+.
Bought a turbo Levo comp. my Adventure motorcycle weighs 440lbs, so the turbo Levo seems really light to me. As a 63 year old , I’ll take all the help I can get! May sell the motorcycle??? Can access so much more here in upstate NY on an EMB, not very gas powered off road friendly here in the ADK.
Maybe a odd question
But the turbo levo sl comp vs turbo levo HT comp
who wins?
Thank you for the comparison!
I sold my 2020 Levo SL for a 2021 Levo. Just couldn’t keep up with my buddies on full Levos.....although I really wish I could have kept both.
So I need to buy a turbo or SL and I'm not sure which one. When using a turbo I can keep up with my ebike friends (I imagine I could with SL too) but if they are in ebike I'm left in the dust no matter what I ride. So keeping up isn't a selling point for me.
Why do you wish you had SL still? Is it because you feel more nimble on it like it's easier to control or...?
I like the Turbo Levo. More power on tap for really steep climbs and it costs less than the SL.
Have not seen in the different reviews a discussion on rider weight. I have a full fat and my wife decided to go with the SL, the ratio of bike weight vs rider weight and also power vs rider weight just made more sense to go SL for her.
Definitely if you're lighterweight that SL motor will do more for you. Good point!
How does she like her SL? Do you guys ever switch? I'm a girl having to chose between the 2 now and I have a bunch of guys telling me to get the full levo. I personally have never used the highest mode on the turbo levo. I love jumping and dropping but I also like stability in rock gardens. I don't have a way to try an SL without a 10 hour drive in a geography completely different then my home. :/
@@chercleveland3375 still winter here in the cold north so not much experience to share. If on the levo you never use turbo you should be ok on the sl as the turbo on the sl is similar to trail on the levo. If you do not ride much up big hills and do not ride with friend that like to ride turbo on their levos it should be good. A full fat is huge for ladies.
I did go with the Specialized Stumpjumper Expert. Why do you ask? Well I'm 40 years old and not 75
I have to make a decision to buy the turbo levo or SL. Please help me choose! I'm female. I rarely do long climbs. I want an Ebike to ride faster so I can jump bigger and better, shred harder and keep up with my pals.
I have been borrowing a turbo levo but l need help loading it on and off rack. If no one can help I remove the battery but it's still pretty miserable. I have no problem loading my normal bike. I have yet to ride the turbo levo in boost mode. I started using trail mode recently and only on a few tiny sections. I mostly use Eco so far but I see myself using trail mode more often in the future. On the turbo levo I have definitely improved my jumping, overall riding skills and keep up with the guys.
So I'm buying an ebike. Should I go with SL because people say it's lighter and more nimble and should be easier to jump, do drops and load onto car. Or should I stick with turbo levo because I'm already used to it and it's more stable, faster, longer battery and I think the sound is less annoying but it's insanely hard for me to lift. Please help!
I would recommend you getting the SL because of the weight issue you are describing. Over time you will get used to the power of the SL compared to the more powerful Turbo Levo. I have a 2020 Turbo Levo Comp and it is awesome, but it is heavy to lift. I ordered a 2021 Levo SL and should take delivery on it tomorrow and will have a better recommendation for you in a couple of weeks.
I bought the turbo levo full. I'm jumping way better than I ever have thought possible. I found a method to load it onto my car rack. And as for not getting a work out it's just not true... I used to ride everyday and now that I'm riding double the amount of trails, sessioning jumps like crazy I need a day off to recover and can only manage every other day for now. I am loving this E experience more than I ever imagined! Riding was already amazing but now it's triple amazing!
I am 64 and have a Turbo Levo but I like the idea of a lighter bike for 2 reasons. #1- it is super heavy to lift onto the bike rack #2- I have had crashes because I am unable to quickly stop the bike from tipping over because it is so heavy. Is it me or did the Levo SL sound much louder? That is important to me since I ride mostly with non ebikers and don't want to bother them with the noise.
You hear an ebike motor more when on it than being around it, So when dudes with camera/Mics ride theses bikes the noise is amplified. You'll have to test a bike out with someone riding along side you, Or vice versa, To get a true answer to your worry.
The SL motor is definitely louder
SL for...great fun👍🏻
Definitely!
I am 5’6” 163 lbs. Need help on size selection Small or Medium on Turbo Levo Comp.
I choose the turbo levo comp w/o riding both. The one thing I really like about turbo levo is on some very steep little climbs that look un climbable. I’ve found on turbo you can get up things that almost don’t make sense if you can balance and learn that skill; it’s very cool coming off analog bikes and I don’t think the SL would be able to do the same at all. Thoughts? Solid vid👍
I agree, and the more powerful Levo costs less than the SL.
Hi I am considering getting a levo , the full fat one , a 2020 model , this to replace my Scott E strike 940, May I ask your opinion, I use the bike at trail centres , crossing the Pentland hills and a bit of commuting , should I do it ?
Would like to see "walk assist" comparison
I have the Levo HT, has the 1.2e motor, hardly ever sees Turbo, mostly eco. How do you think the SL motor compares if you have rode both? Looking for a lightweight option and torn between the SL and the Rise
It seems as though the only tests anyone conducts for EMTB is climbing and then going on a gravity downhill. It misses an entire segment of in between stuff, rolling terrain. with short climbs and such…In these spots there is no question that the turbo Levo is faster. Where the SL bikes struggle, both Kenevo and Levo is having a lack of torque.. Any sort of rise that is hit is a problem. If you are simply shuttling and dropping in on a gravity run, it’s not as big a deal, and the SL’s are definitely more “poppy” on the downhills and jumps.
dude, you are freaking hilarious. i consider 2:10 pure comedic genius. actually made me laugh.
Great compare!
It's not about the size of the motor, Scott.. It's how you use it. ayyyyy
wouldve loved to see some downhill/singletrack comparisons
I rode both bikes and actually tend to the Levo because of the motor “noise” of the SL.
Did you make the same experience? Because i have heard that there are different SL motor noises around?
The SL motor is definitely louder.
Seems as though the SL rider could ride from his house to meet the Turbo rider who drives to the trailhead. Then, the SL rider could pedal back home or get a ride with the Turbo rider depending on the duration of the group ride.
It really depends on where youre riding. If youre in an area where theres alot of steep hills or trails turbo levo all the way. But if you live in an are where theres not much any steep hills or trails the SL would be more than enough.
One of each please .
Haha hell yeah!
Would evil knievel ride a levo or kenevo ??
I hardly ever run my SL on turbo it always on the 2nd setting.
No one has mentioned it but………….One annoying thing about the Levo is the motor drag after you reach over 20 MPH, it’s like the brakes get put on. Let’s face it MTBing is not just up or down, but can be lots of flow, this is what I like about the SL, after 20 MPH the bike just transitions back and forth with no drag at all.
Thank you 😊
The hike-a-bike Hoedown lol! Bigger battery + bigger motor all day everyday.
Dang! Coming from the king of acoustic himself!
Nobody in history has calmed down after being told to calm down
Lol Forgot to think about that!
Bottom line, if you are in shape and like staying that way, the Levo SL is the way to go.
Turbo Levo for me please.
You should have timed a non-e-bike for comparison.
That SL is sweet & I’d love to have one....But, I’d need the power on tap of the regular model.
It's definitely tough to give up once you've gotten a taste of it!
Sl motor consuption is less than fazua because is less powerful too.
Turbo Levo Comp All the Way In.
Where are these sweet trails?
Marquette,MI
It looking for what choice into the game or how old are you, levo is perfect matching at the sport without painful, levo Sl say you still younger
🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
The inside line was faster. 🤦♂️
Haha! The student has surpassed the master!
Embn uk made a very similar video a month before this video you copy cats , thumbs down 👎
bike of the worst quality. motors are simply TRASH